Hi to every users of PS3. I'm one of the consumer who experience problem in YLOD. As this problem is getting more and more common to Phat PS3 and it also happened to quite an amount of Slim PS3 user. YLOD happened because PS3 running high graphics so it produce a lot of heat and the heat will cause crack in the soldering of the PS3. PS3 is using lead free soldering, compare lead and lead free, lead is much more better and I believe that YLOD problems will be lesser if using leaded soldering. Based on the research I made, I also found out that Sony apply thermal poorly in the RSX the graphic processor in the ps3 and using poor quality thermal as well. Besides that, the air ventilation or ps3 is not good enough that is also another reason that cause YLOD.

To prolong your PS3 lifespan
1. Make it stand vertically
2. If possible let it cool as much as possible. Example like play with open you air-conditional
3. Give your PS3 some space, especially behind. Don't let the PS3 blew the air straightly to the wall it might cause some air trap around outside PS3.
4. Maintain your PS3 after warranty. Example clean the inner part of PS3 from dust and if possible reapply thermal.

Hope these can help user increase some knowledge about the most critical problem of PS3 and guides to take care your PS3.

This post has been edited by cloudstrifes: Nov 12 2012, 11:05 AM

urs is ps3 fat?

yup exactly somemore limited edtion... T_T

tot ps3 slim is correct ylod problem d.
btw hope sony gv 3 year warranty on every ylod ps3 due to their design mistake

Sony got their ass saved because RROD was getting more attention at the time. At least MS willing to admit their mistakes while Sony still robbing consumers for their own mistakes.

Even though fat PS3 YLOD issue is extremly common, the slim model cannot escape this problem as well.

+1

+1

ps3 slim rare to get YLOD probs compare to phat

up untill today there is 62 PS3 YLOD users has voted on the other thread. maybe u can combine it togehter...

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1216645&hl=

yes,but the point is that is still can YLOD.why don't they detect the problem,get it fix then release the slim.damn it sony,from the sales of the ps3,at least you guys can invest into RnD of the stupid YLOD thing

slim version pun kena ylod?

I believe this is a marketing conspiracy...

knowing that the Old models PS3 are expensive to produce, they came up with this idea of setting a dateline for your PS3 lifespan.

I.E Hardcore players- 2-3 years the most
Usual players- 4-5 years

And they would also turn a blind eye if at YLOD happens and blame it on you players for not giving the machine a good rest after gaming while Knowing that is actually their design flaw.

Thus, promoting existing customers to buy their new design PS3 which is cheaper to produce and also selling almost the same cost.

In the end, who earns? Sony earns.

This is totally their fault.Wat do they mean by "blame it on you players for not giving the machine a good rest after gaming"?We bought the damn thing to game,not for it to lie and rest on the table.Even Microsoft is willing to admit the RROD,then Intel is admitting their Sandy Bridge flaw,but Sony did no shit to fix this thing.They dont even bother to try to giv a damn solutions for it.

So in the end,we consumers r the one to suffer.Pay more than 1k juz to get worried that one day u will get YLOD.And now they r planning to release Xperia Play and PSP2 (NGP).For god sake,before releasing something new,y dont they clean up their old mess first?

This post has been edited by Duckies: Feb 12 2011, 02:36 PM

yeah they shuld do that...


That's why i'm doing this to show Sony.


will it be lesser chance to affect YLOD?

i dont think it can combine, coz both different, this 1 is to complain Sony about YLOD problems not the other problem, and that topic is to show what problem will occur on their PS3


yeah... exactly...

Yeah u can watch some slim ylod on youtube.

Exactly, thats y we as consumer shuld take action on them... This is consumer rights.

I totally agree that they cant fix the problem i bet there will be smtg happened on their NGP and their Xperia... If we juz leave it as it, the more problem will occur on the nxt generation consoles as nobody cares, and Sony take advantage on us as a consumer. They are taking advantage while we are taking the disadvantages.

For us to go against a big international company is kind off impossible but not fully impossible.

Unless we can get the whole world's petition. Then maybe yes, we can turn the tables against Sony for this issue.

but until you get the whole world's petition, we just have to live with it at the moment.

thats what I'm planning to do and of course I need every consumer help as well, I cannot do this by myself.

I recently got YLOD also after the Update 3.55 , I support

Actually putting this on facebook is enough to attract enough attention. Just keep it big and spread it around. Very soon the news will reach them right under their nose.

Companies these days are irresponsible unlike like time before the year 2000. Due to cheap production and also fearing that having a long lifespan hardware might crippled their income. Most companies purposely design the lifespan to last only 1-3yrs for extensive use and depends on luck where some could hit 5yrs top and find their hardware with more and more problems surfacing.

This is their strategy to make sure consumers will return to them again.

Sony: MAKE BELIEVE

That alone says it all

actually ylod r not causes by update.

yeah i can c tat, tats y i'm doing it big...

says my a double s man...

My fat 60gb still work fine

lucky 4 u, even my fren fat ps3 white colour dunno how many gb bought earlier than me 1 year also working fine for now, while mine 160GB fat ps3 gone...

I support this thread, Sony needs to make improvements on PS3 and increase their efficiency!

bring it to /k/!

My 40gb is still working fine but the fan becomes very loud(like vacuum) after about 20 minutes..

im a hardcore gamer...
been playing my ps3 almost 24-7
since 6 month back
my room dun even have air cond
normal fan only
i put my slim ps3 vertically so it will have better cooling that put it horizontally

can u blame a car manufacturer if ur gearbox spoilt after u use 3-5 years?

out of 23 who voted, 5 are from slim users

this is bad,real bad.i thought slim is extremely rare to kena ylod?

yeah?well,tell that to sony....all they care is profit,but no quality.do we have any problems like this with the great ol' psONE?no i think....i have mine for 5 years,played it for 6-7 hours a day(was a kid back then,so play games until there's no tomorrow),and the only thing broke is the disc holder,which broke a little piece,but can still put in the cd,load it,and play it.no need of good ventilation or anything like that,just plug it into the tv and play.and the day that my ps1 died is bcos of the big floods in kedah in 2005,if not bcos of the floods,i bet it would still kick the ps3's ass lifespan

wanna compare ps1 tech with ps3 tech...

i dont want to compare the tech....i just want to compare the lifespan.why can't technology nowadays cant even pass 3 years....if more than that,something is surely go wrong.even the small things...like it wont read the disc la,got power supply problem,things like that

as in other words,all big companies today think like this---> more quantity,less quality

This post has been edited by raffie092: Feb 12 2011, 11:01 PM

mine will juz become loud after I started game awhile...

i din use 3-5 years it juz around 2 years and i didn't play often as well, i juz played a lot during free times only well i dont hav a lot free times as well is juz like 2 days available in 1 week or less than tat...

no it still exist on slim, but i guess it shuld be less problem to slims..

yes i totally agree wit this i understand that ps3 have better hardwares compares to the old playstation 1 and playstation 2, but still they should do smtg that can last as long as the old 1, i didn't ask them for even longer than the old machine juz hope that it can last as long as b4. I can understand if it happened to SOME of them only, but it isn't it happened to A LOT USERS, u wouldn't understand if it didn't happened on u, once it happened to u, and u will straightly understand.

jz my 2 cents i feel this is jz another wasted effort....ps 3 had been released for 5 years now.if the complaint for ylod wasn't many enough we probably wouldn't even know bout it, and sony, if they really wan to solve the prob, they would've did it

anyway kudos ts for ur effort, hope u keep it up.something might jz work out of it

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Feb 12 2011, 11:32 PM

i think that consumer didn't put much effort on it, tats y i'm trying 2 make it big.

support u...........................
2 of my fren phat ps3 ylod.
1 of my fren slim 120GB ps3 ylod also

sony uses that thermal paste because the better ones contains lead. which is a no no for a toy. i was hit once. then i bought a new one. problem solved.

Yes,tis statistic figure is very bad.As someone mentioned juz now,my PS1 life span is much more better.In fact,it's still running after 13 years.I do not expect Sony to do any major improvement or wat,i juz wanted them to try and come up with some solutions.But they do not even bother.How sad.

i was in the same situation. got ylod on my fat ps3. bought a new slim ps3 with local warranty. learned a hard lesson that buying anything without local warranty will burn a hole in your wallet.

sony are too cheap too waste a few hundred or million dollars on funding to find the solution,that's why they didn't bother solve the problem....look at microsoft and thier RROD.they admit their mistake,solve it and now do you see any new xbox with RROD?no i think..

tqtq

u hav enugh financial to get a brand new 1, while others dont hav... but anyway good news to u...

I support Sony all the way starts from PS1, I hav PS1, PS2 and PSP and all working fine from the day I bought until now, juz slighty problem that I've overuse it, but still playable. PS3 everything working fine and in juz 1 day, poof unplayable.

I dont think so, c if u buy local warranty, maximum 1 year warranty, u send back to sony they giv back u a refurbish, if after warranty i heard someone on the net said u nid 2 pay $150 to fix it, i not sure wats the price for Malaysia. While 3rd party u can send to reballing it, means resoldering it, i heard this method is good, but expensive and I not sure this method hold for long.

yeah... they 1 profit wat.... I not sure bout it coz I didn't research much about RROD, but if reli slim doesnt hav RROD i think its time to complain PS3 and ask them to fix YLOD.

news flash!!!

every company actually aims for profit :blinks:

chances of repair the YLOD?

for YLOD i heard the way they repair it is to jz replace the thermal paste

yes but it will come back in a few days or month.depend on ur luck bro

tht's nt the main concern....the thing is,sony is charging about RM450 for a simple procedure that even a geek at home can DIY?and there's no guarantee whether the problem would occur again or not

yes there is chances to repair, but it is not permanently repaired.

some is replace and reheat the stuff inside

exactly tats y, if can be fixed permanently i dont blame on Sony, but it is juz temporary. U can say that ur PS3 is hurted adi

i not sure whether Sony charge the price for fix the problem or change the prob, i heard they said it still will come back even after they sent to Sony to fix it...

dah 3 pages and 30 voters in lyn?? bro.. got so many ylod victims ma? oh gawd have to becarefull dy... but la... truth is... high tech things are memang fragile... look at auto cars these days their life span are shorter than the 80s car... not long after use the gear box rosak la.. that rosak la... all problem come.. have to change the whole thing.. and super expensive..

Beside, PS3 is a powerful machine of course la kenot tahan the heat... PS1 different you know.. It focus only on one thing.. PS3 vs PS1 and PS2 Its like comparing stone age thing, the 18 century to the modern IT stuff.. which is a little bit well, you know.. to me if they can tahan 3 years.. then i am content... fix it, collect it and buy new one.. Of course can't say that Sony is not trying to earn money.. If not how many millions of console to sell per year if all tahan lama?

Still if they cant tahan more than 2 years.. well, maybe we should do something.. But why not many people complain in oversea de? Is it their weather are cold so can heat sink it fast? Or they dun mind buying new consoles?

This post has been edited by lilko: Feb 13 2011, 07:15 PM

who says ppl from oversea dont complain?in fb i've join a gt5 fan page...in there,some ppl complain that their ps3 got YLOD cos of gt5.some of them tried to reflow their ps3,but it still wont work.

here's the link to the page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/GTWorld/180955851926684

i understand wat u mean, but this is not because of their hardware powerful, is due to poor quality of the material, anyway there is a lot users who r the victims not only in Malaysia, foreign consumer also experience this, i did some research adi, so u can check out urself if u dont believe me. I also understand that some of the machine will experience some problem, but this happened to quite a lot ppl not seldom of them.

i don't know..but i think there is a reason why most pc, notebook, handphones and such gadgets only give one year + warranty for their product...some if not all will tend to spoil one way or another.

my ps3 was struck by lightning and it still runs smoothly minus the internet capability...and it continues to do so for over a year (yes, i'm playing on it even though only offline)...heck, still lives on now without ylod...and this is after lightning struck.

only this year when my funds is enough i bought another new unit for the online interaction

ooo.. ok.. din check other sites... paiseh..

so sony quality drop? haiz...

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Added on February 13, 2011, 10:04 pmyea true oso.. i support you bro ..



This post has been edited by lilko: Feb 13 2011, 10:04 PM

i think not only sony,all big companies now do the same thing....all in the name of profit

is good that u hav enugh funds to get 1, but i dont... tat is the sad case...

so sry bro not to offend u, but juz wanna share wit u. I always support sony all along, although it is pricy, but still I hope they fixed the problem for me and for everyone, and also for the better machine in the future.


exactly...

the thing is...they will fix it for u after warranty but with a price T_T

my laptop motherboard spoiled after 2 month warranty ended...i have to pay 950 to bring it back to life and after they do it they say that replacement is only warranted for 3 weeks T_T..lucky still until alive now.

for electronic thingy...seldom we see lifetime warranty. all they can give u is one year plus a couple month more...not more than that. if we're lucky it will hit us when we're still covered, if not...just one day after warranty is over T_T

if u see any other company giving lifetime warranty for a similar product, perhaps u have a case.

i do encounter lifetime warranty for some RAMs and pendrives

those r cheap stuff and seldom occur problems tats y they giv lifetime warranty.

I mean it's okay that they dont provide lifetime warranty.Even 1 year warranty is good to me.But the problem is,they knew the existence of this YLOD and yet they didnt fix it.It's like selling a going-to-be-YLOD PS3 to the customers.Okay,i understand that no electronic device can last 4ever,but then it wont be this short right?So is it like when i agree to buy PS3,i am bound to accept the fate that it's going to be gone case after 2-3 years of using it?

Btw,i am not pin pointing u.I am pointing at Sony.Sony,shame on u.

yeah i agree wit tat... i think nowadays most of the electronics like television, even better performance gaming machine like computer can last longer than tat...i tell u seriously i dont mind if they made a computer look of playstation machine as long as it can last.

i ended up with null vote for this poll, need control group as a vote.
- who have ps3 not ylod
or:
- ps3 fat not ylod
- ps3 slim not ylod
so we know better how much percentage this ylod happen

sure no problem ^^

My PS3 fat is still running smoothly after all these years. Almost 3 years...if I'm not mistaken.

tats great... take good care of it... dont end up like us.... T_T

see..that's the thing, how many of the ps3 users are really affected by this after more than a year's use?

coz there is no ppl cares, tat is also y sony ignore the problem and leave it as it...

why don't u add another option for ppl not affected by ylod (yet) to paint a more clearer pic of the situation?

just my 2 cent.. what do u think.. if the percentage of ps3 kena ylod compare to witout problem one is very slim for the past 5 years.. do u think that sony will bother ur complain?

i agree n understand your feeling.. but, to sony, biz is biz.. profit is the most important things.. so, all ps3 users that kena ylod will be consider as "small" cases/problem.. so that is what sony is not taking the same measure as m$ did..

anyway.. best of luck to u..

This post has been edited by sprix: Feb 14 2011, 10:50 AM

Complain to SONY that PS3 YLOD still not fix, then they reply user didn't take care PS3 properly. Give mcm mcm alasan...too much dust la, put in narrow space la, play too long la...etc etc

dun u think the solution is to just buy a wii?

the most non problem console of the three

This post has been edited by PhoenixByte: Feb 14 2011, 01:01 PM

Haha true,but some games r exclusive to Ps3 like God of War.U cant play it in other console.

ok sure will do so...

actually ps3 didn't care coz there is not much ppl complain to and nowadays ppl hav enugh money to get a new 1... but how bout those poor country, we can't think bout ourself we also nid 2 think for them. Might be small case for them but it is quite BIG for us as a counsumer. Yeah correct business is business, but business also nid 2 do stuff that satisfy the customer, example a restaurant tat serve food that are not nice and they charge expensive prices, would u still go back there? same thing to the sony, if they keep on like tat more and more ppl will stop get their products.


lol~ quite true, but let me ask u, can u play Metal Gear Sold on Wii? can u play Final Fantasy XIII or Wii? can u play those game that r in PS3 while Wii dont hav those game?

like wat he said...

this is just ur assumption

yeah might be, but nowadays people juz ignore coz they don't 1 to cause trouble. Isn't? Don't u think so?

the reason it's the most non problematic console is bcos nobody buys the wii lol,jk

lol~ actually wii is quite good... it is suitable for all age.

yes,but i think here in malaysia,the wii is less popular...bcos it's so hard to buy wii games here.not many choices

This post has been edited by raffie092: Feb 15 2011, 10:36 AM

hmm i think it is quite easy 2 get wii games i saw quite a lot places selling wii games, of coz not original... XD

just buy another one lah, problem solved.

money bro money... ^^

that and remember to buy official Sony Malaysia product. sure extra hundred , but really saves the hassle in the long run.

Totally agree..

bro Sony Malaysia yeah extra hundred with 1 year warranty. I juz asked the price at The Garden Sony, they said Rm1299 1 year under SONY Warranty, and I asked other third party shops, u noe wat they say? Sony Singapore warranty 1 year + 1 game... U say which more worth?

good. later when you have ANY problem regarding your PS3 ask that extra game to repair it for you

people are saying Sony to be cheap in their worksmanship, can't really blame them since we too have the same cheap mentality.

This post has been edited by snipersnake: Feb 15 2011, 07:37 PM

YLOD = Yellow Lights of Death aka Young, Lifeless and on its Deathbed

Let your cries be heard, don't suffer alone. Join us!

warranty issue is covered on all failures of the ps 3..

Most ylod happens after warranty period is over... Ylod does not choose slim/phat models to stike.. its about overheating issue.. and once your gpu solder has crack.. thats it...

bro, what they forget to mention is for SG set u have to pay for the 'extra trip' expenses...and nowadays sony's ps3 warranty is 1 year + 3 month.

thats true. but YLOD is a general hardware failure, not exclusively to cracking of the BGA only. Thats why Sony covers it in the first place. After their technicians open up the PS3 then only they will know what actually happened. Buy saying that, its like 80% of YLOD issues are likely to be caused by the BGA.

yeah true Sony can repair it back 2 u, and it will return u as a refurbish set and of coz i did research bout it, coz of this i think of getting an original set from sony, but I found out that the refurbish set gave back 2 u will occur YLOD again... so up 2 u, u 1 2 pick back to Sony or not, and also the thing i mention is also under Sony warranty, but is under Singapore Sony not Sony Malaysia end up is the same... ^^

LOL~

yeah exactly tats y even u take Sony Malaysia still doesnt help much... u juz pay extra and then u take back to Sony they will charge u extra for services.

ok lar, let say get it from Impulse shop that r famous in lowyat, u can get around 1000 to get a new set from Singapore Sony, and lets say lar they charge u Rm200 for transport fee lar, juz assume lar. also cheaper than u get it from Sony Malaysia lar rite?

hmm true...

good to know you did your research, but the refurbished issue occcours in US only. When I was working in Singapore, a friend of mine turned his broken PS3, only to be offered by Sony Singapore a new PS3 Slim, half the price. So does Hong Kong. But I am afraid what is the process here in Malaysia. Never encountered people with YLOD PS3 here personally. Any experience here?

i always regret that i didn't do much research... spend more money and bought the wrong stuff and dunno much bout YLOD. Starting i thought it only happened to those early machine, but only found out it happened to all kind of ps3. I not sure bout Malaysia, anyway at Singapore still nid 2 pay half price? My fren bought PS3 at Sony, but his problem is not YLOD is bricked the firmware... =_='''

You guys think the YLOD/RLOD issue will affect the PS3 slim versions today? getting scared now ):

there is already...but quite rare
some unlucky guy here already got the symptoms with his slim console...luckily his item is under warranty, so he went to sony and fix it

I had my fat one YLODed and 360 3RODed, and now using slim and jasper. As for my advice, when your 360 or ps3's warranty nearly over, backup your stuff and sell it and get a brand new one.

wooww...best idea i heard so far

yes it will there is a poll showing some of the ppl affect YLOD on slims

hu's tat?

wow... LOL~ quite a good idea, but nid 2 pay extra lar...


lol~ quite true... XD