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 Nokia N900 V10 (Close to 200 owners), New CSSU Update 07/09/2011

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post Jun 21 2011, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 21 2011, 12:13 PM)
No hardware keyboard....

Specs looks outdated... ARM Cortex-A8 OMAP3630 1 Ghz, PowerVRSGX530
Seems no mentioned about ram, probably 512MB?

http://press.nokia.com/wp-content/uploads/...-data-sheet.pdf

I wonder who are the targeted market? I wonder how many hardcore N900 which choose N900 because of it's speciality, will be impressed with N9?
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Specs don't bother me much but the lack of physical keyboard is real disappointment.
I'm sure number of N900 users will keep using their current phone.


Added on June 21, 2011, 12:51 pmOh & btw forget about Android port in N9 unless Google really removed physical buttons functionality in Android 2.4

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QUOTE(Dark_Angel85 @ Jun 21 2011, 12:33 PM)
apparently there'll be 2 devices... one N9 and the N950 for developers with slightly different specs...
can't wait for the video reviews to come out
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Let's hope so... But, it there is, I doubt the developer version is available for Malaysian market.

QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 21 2011, 12:49 PM)
Specs don't bother me much but the lack of physical keyboard is real disappointment.
I'm sure number of N900 users will keep using their current phone.


Added on June 21, 2011, 12:51 pmOh & btw forget about Android port in N9 unless Google really removed physical buttons functionality in Android 2.4
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True, the keyboard is the biggest turn-off.
Though specs is kind of important as you need at least more than recommended specs or a good spec for proper heavy multi-tasking; As with the N900, I think we all know the experience and feeling. Nonetheless, it's still a good device and there no a device that's comparable; If there is, then it'll be different story.

Another thing I hope is it'll be able to render/play HD videos or even Full HD, but looking at the specs, probably just HD. As with the N900 now, we're limited, can't even play 480p. Back when it's still new, it's still ok, but nowadays, you often see higher quality/resolution as standard. Soon, it'll be even more common thing.

Anyway, I don't think it's worth selling the N900; Just whether how long it can last OR keep up with the demand as nowadays, there're so many things available and there isn't much new things or support for those new things on the N900. We're far behind, but when N900 was first launch, we're far in front.


Added on June 21, 2011, 3:30 pmhttp://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n9_announced_based_on_the_meego_platform-news-2805.php

N9 announced....
I thing I just notice... no homescreen/Desktop???

Why does it feel more like the fruit?


One UI is all icons and it's in 1 page, imagine if you install tons of appplications....
No adobe Flash support.


This post has been edited by Andy214: Jun 21 2011, 03:32 PM
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post Jun 21 2011, 04:06 PM

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So, when are we getting a stable release of Meego 1.2 for N900? User-oriented. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 21 2011, 03:11 PM)
Let's hope so... But, it there is, I doubt the developer version is available for Malaysian market.
True, the keyboard is the biggest turn-off.
Though specs is kind of important as you need at least more than recommended specs or a good spec for proper heavy multi-tasking; As with the N900, I think we all know the experience and feeling. Nonetheless, it's still a good device and there no a device that's comparable; If there is, then it'll be different story.

Another thing I hope is it'll be able to render/play HD videos or even Full HD, but looking at the specs, probably just HD.  As with the N900 now, we're limited, can't even play 480p. Back when it's still new, it's still ok, but nowadays, you often see higher quality/resolution as standard. Soon, it'll be even more common thing.

Anyway, I don't think it's worth selling the N900; Just whether how long it can last OR keep up with the demand as nowadays, there're so many things available and there isn't much new things or support for those new things on the N900. We're far behind, but when N900 was first launch, we're far in front.


Added on June 21, 2011, 3:30 pmhttp://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n9_announced_based_on_the_meego_platform-news-2805.php

N9 announced....
I thing I just notice... no homescreen/Desktop???

Why does it feel more like the fruit?
One UI is all icons and it's in 1 page, imagine if you install tons of appplications....
No adobe Flash support.
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Well see how things goes...
1080p was introduced before N900 was introduced so yes,in a way we was behind,
But so far the is no other format or planned format which is advanced than current 1080p.This spec should be enough to hold for while (a short while)

Anyway N950 has been confirmed.Hardware spec lower than N9,no warranty or support but with QWERTY keyboard.

No matter what you have to say Nokia knows how to design phone better than other wink.gif

For me because of lack of physical qwerty phones in market I'm embracing the thought of buying a full touch phone.N9 now certainty in my thought now...

QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 21 2011, 04:06 PM)
So, when are we getting a stable release of Meego 1.2 for N900? User-oriented. biggrin.gif
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I think soon.
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 21 2011, 04:06 PM)
So, when are we getting a stable release of Meego 1.2 for N900? User-oriented. biggrin.gif
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As I watch from the video, the one N900 getting (or current Developer Edition) is the actual MeeGo, not the MeeGo Harmattan (Maemo6).


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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 21 2011, 12:49 PM)
Specs don't bother me much but the lack of physical keyboard is real disappointment.
I'm sure number of N900 users will keep using their current phone.


Added on June 21, 2011, 12:51 pmOh & btw forget about Android port in N9 unless Google really removed physical buttons functionality in Android 2.4
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Well, I do hope that the developer will use something akin to Tablet Tweaks like in Cyanogen Mod 7 when porting Android to N9. It do provides persistent notification bar thru all apps, with soft Android keys at the bar.

Its not impossible IMHO But it sure a PITA laugh.gif

And yes, the lack of keyboard is a major downside for me. Better keep using my N810 for my keyboard need laugh.gif
Still, as the last Maemo hurrah, I will buy this. Period!
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 21 2011, 04:28 PM)
Well see how things goes...
1080p was introduced before N900 was introduced so yes,in a way we was behind,
But so far the is no other format or planned format which is advanced than current 1080p.This spec should be enough to hold for while (a short while)

Anyway N950 has been confirmed.Hardware spec lower than N9,no warranty or support but with QWERTY keyboard.

No matter what you have to say Nokia knows how to design phone better than other wink.gif

For me because of lack of physical qwerty phones in market I'm embracing the thought of buying a full touch phone.N9 now certainty in my thought now...
I think soon.
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The problem is, we don't know when it will launch. By the time it was launch (if year end), reach Malaysia will be Feb/March 2012? Or later? That time, I think it's far behind. We might have other "actual" MeeGo devices on the market, while this is actually Maemo6/Harmattan. But the RAM of 1GB is good.
But, as you said, and I have to agree with you, Nokia knows how to design phone better than other; I do find Nokia has more better design phones than other.

Just disappointed that, we don't get a proper and "good" N900 replacement; This one honestly, I feel like a refined and better N8 with better OS; It's more like to replace "Symbian" than replace "Maemo".

This may not replace N900, but definitely can replace other Symbian devices thumbup.gif
Looking forward WP7 phone from Nokia; Hope they come out with a good design qwerty device, it doesn't have to have the best specs (as usual, qwerty devices seems/tends to have lower specs?)
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I thought we can play 480p vid on N900. My vids at 480p playable. hmm.gif

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Seems right to say a refined Symbian than a direct replacement of N900. But if you were to put the physical keys out of your mind, you will see, it's the bloodline of Maemo and I can't stop admiring the design. It's so nice. laugh.gif
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greeting!=) just success installed the aircrack, cracked my own wifi passsw, still havent tried others one. having problem now. i installed the cssu from app mng, after installed, i clicked it, but it shows me error. whats wrong??
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 21 2011, 04:55 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

I thought we can play 480p vid on N900. My vids at 480p playable. hmm.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Seems right to say a refined Symbian than a direct replacement of N900. But if you were to put the physical keys out of your mind, you will see, it's the bloodline of Maemo and I can't stop admiring the design. It's so nice. laugh.gif
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Can mer? Can't wor, I even tried over-clocking and play using mplayer. Maybe the bitrate/quality different?

bloodline? I don't see any wor.
No Desktop. I don't see homescreen as well, feels like iFruit.
Icon looks like Symbian Anna.
Colour is white/gray; Maemo has this cool black and glowing blue trademark, which makes it really cool.

When you first boot up Maemo for the first time to set the settings (clock, region, etc), it's already sooooo coool, standing out from the rest of the mobile phone OS.

I don't see where is the similarities with Maemo. As with the design, I don't see the similarities of bloodlines from N900, probably bloodlines from N8, while N950 from E7 (which also bloodlines from N8).
The closest design to N900 was probably the Motorola Milestone/Droid, and you can see, up till the 3rd generation, it still retain it's look, it's bloodlines.


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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 21 2011, 05:37 PM)
Can mer? Can't wor, I even tried over-clocking and play using mplayer. Maybe the bitrate/quality different?

bloodline? I don't see any wor.
No Desktop. I don't see homescreen as well, feels like iFruit.
Icon looks like Symbian Anna.
Colour is white/gray; Maemo has this cool black and glowing blue trademark, which makes it really cool.

When you first boot up Maemo for the first time to set the settings (clock, region, etc), it's already sooooo coool, standing out from the rest of the mobile phone OS.

I don't see where is the similarities with Maemo. As with the design, I don't see the similarities of bloodlines from N900, probably bloodlines from N8, while N950 from E7 (which also bloodlines from N8).
The closest design to N900 was probably the Motorola Milestone/Droid, and you can see, up till the 3rd generation, it still retain it's look, it's bloodlines.
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Lulz...I hacked my phone so much that it barely look like original Maemo laugh.gif
I think aside from Nokia word on the case there is no other Nokia word in my phone.Even boot video don't have "Nokia".I changed everything somewhere in last year after pissed with Nokia over crappy software support.

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Did you use aircrack with kernel power v47?
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 21 2011, 05:58 PM)
Lulz...I hacked my phone so much that it barely look like original Maemo laugh.gif
I think aside from Nokia word on the case there is no other Nokia word in my phone.Even boot video don't have "Nokia".I changed everything somewhere in last year after pissed with Nokia over crappy software support.

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Did you use aircrack with kernel power v47?
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LoL; Actually aside from the Nokia word, the Maemo OS feel totally doesn't feel Nokia, as Nokia is usually known for their Symbian OS; You show to people, they wouldn't know it's a Nokia until they see the branding on the phone. I have few people interested people asked me, Nokia got such phone??? This one really not something that is common for Nokia.
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@sifu now using v46, cause baru formated my phone, now updating. why?


Added on June 21, 2011, 6:12 pmcouldnt update to v47=S

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hi guys, back after a long hiatus. still loving my n900.

btw , cssu is nice indeed. good update. i read that it consumed more juice but then, battery is not an issue to me. got charger in car, house, office, 2nd battery too tongue.gif


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fixed the problem of cssu. now headache of kernel.v47=S
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 21 2011, 06:06 PM)
LoL; Actually aside from the Nokia word, the Maemo OS feel totally doesn't feel Nokia, as Nokia is usually known for their Symbian OS; You show to people, they wouldn't know it's a Nokia until they see the branding on the phone. I have few people interested people asked me, Nokia got such phone??? This one really not something that is common for Nokia.
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Yes, I get all the same reaction, Nokia got this phone? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 21 2011, 05:37 PM)
Can mer? Can't wor, I even tried over-clocking and play using mplayer. Maybe the bitrate/quality different?

bloodline? I don't see any wor.
No Desktop. I don't see homescreen as well, feels like iFruit.
Icon looks like Symbian Anna.
Colour is white/gray; Maemo has this cool black and glowing blue trademark, which makes it really cool.

When you first boot up Maemo for the first time to set the settings (clock, region, etc), it's already sooooo coool, standing out from the rest of the mobile phone OS.

I don't see where is the similarities with Maemo. As with the design, I don't see the similarities of bloodlines from N900, probably bloodlines from N8, while N950 from E7 (which also bloodlines from N8).
The closest design to N900 was probably the Motorola Milestone/Droid, and you can see, up till the 3rd generation, it still retain it's look, it's bloodlines.
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Can. smile.gif Later I try again. Maybe your format or something larh.
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it show me .... !!!Linux kernel for power user(boot image) breaks the 3rd party package policy whats wrong?
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 21 2011, 06:06 PM)
LoL; Actually aside from the Nokia word, the Maemo OS feel totally doesn't feel Nokia, as Nokia is usually known for their Symbian OS; You show to people, they wouldn't know it's a Nokia until they see the branding on the phone. I have few people interested people asked me, Nokia got such phone??? This one really not something that is common for Nokia.
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This is ok.
Got people asked me : "Is this China phone?"

QUOTE(N900rocks @ Jun 21 2011, 06:17 PM)
it show me .... !!!Linux kernel for power user(boot image) breaks the 3rd party package policy whats wrong?
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Normal warning.Most probably because of the i2ctool.
Go ahead & install it.
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LOL! why N9 looks like ipod nano ???
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 21 2011, 06:16 PM)
Yes, I get all the same reaction, Nokia got this phone? biggrin.gif
Can. smile.gif Later I try again. Maybe your format or something larh.
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I got few people saw my phone. "Wah, what phone is that? I looks very keng" haha;
Some people don't mind the bulkyness of the phone, they actually like it as long as it's powerful and provide many features; But if the phone is simple, then it become a question why it is so bulky.

What about YouTube video at 480p? I can't play that too, can play but very laggy and slow, audio out of sync.


Added on June 21, 2011, 6:24 pm
QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 21 2011, 06:21 PM)
This is ok.
Got people asked me : "Is this China phone?"
Normal warning.Most probably because of the i2ctool.
Go ahead & install it.
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LoL, now that's bad. tongue.gif

QUOTE(zdentws @ Jun 21 2011, 06:22 PM)
LOL! why N9 looks like ipod nano ???
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Haha, you're same with BuFung!

This post has been edited by Andy214: Jun 21 2011, 06:24 PM

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