hmm... from wat i experience, Android and iOS also almost instant, but nokia... dunno lar, never really bother about it

I lol'd... honestly speaking, how are u going to measure how good is the phone? just looking at "wow, this has 10 hours of battery life on stand by, should be good since I normally don use that long", but after u actually go and compare, u see that 10 hour stand by is really shitty... I ain't saying any phone, just raise an example... how do u k ow which phone is the best? u compare.. how u know which phone suits u best in your price budget? u compare... and when u compare, u don just compare nokia with nokia, u also compare Sony, compare Sammy, compare HTC and maybe compare iPhone too, is that wrong? phone thread talking about phone tech... if u can't accept it, please, find somewhere, I think only u have problem accepting these talks here

@vira: I'm not helping anyone here, just stating my opinion, I dunno what andre said before this and I am not sides picking sides, what that dude say there, I just can't agree with... btw, I do state "budget" in my statement, which, if ur budget can get iPhone, u will definitely get one... plus, while retail price of iPhone is expensive, telco does provide installment for it and currently, ppl with credit card can pretty much get it easily...