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TSquest_5692
post Apr 23 2011, 08:42 PM

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possibly higher than MC too, not sure tho.....but i think with dreamhack champion, MC is the highest. cuz actually 2 GSL champion prize pool doesnt worth more than 5 2nd place hosted by gomtv......its about 2.5 GSL champion prize pool if we assume 2nd place have half of the money of the 1st place.
westley0214
post Apr 23 2011, 08:47 PM

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Well mkp only got 4 second place finish.

Season 2 lost to nestea
gstar lost to kyrix
season 4 lost to mvp
world championship lost to mvp

and if I'm not mistaken, 1st place in gsl code s actually have 3 times more money than 2nd place.

This post has been edited by westley0214: Apr 23 2011, 08:54 PM
TSquest_5692
post Apr 23 2011, 09:22 PM

yo chick, im not buaya
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he got 2nd place in Gainward too.....lost to MVP also.
westley0214
post Apr 29 2011, 05:58 PM

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MVP never learn on how to defend Banelings rush... or is it really undefendable?
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post Apr 29 2011, 06:37 PM

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His mechanics really show the different btwn a BW player and a non-BW player
TSquest_5692
post Apr 29 2011, 10:45 PM

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2 base baneling rush is one of the hardest rush to stop as a terran. you basically need to have a siege mode orientated opening to counter it. if not, you need to know its coming and have bunkers BEHIND your rax wall......or else you will die. ST july love to do this rush ALOT.

symptoms, more than 8 lings running around for no reason on the field (pro zergs dont make lings for no reason), not alot of drones at nat and finally save your 2nd 50 mana for a scan.

3 things to note in your scan.
-zerg got 3 tech path to choose in ZvT by the time you throw down your scan, (1) starting his lair, (2) roach warren, (3) baneling nest.
-how many gas had he mined? he should have mined about 600 gas b4 his bust. (100 for ling speed, 50 for b nest, about 400 for banelings)
-see whats the next round of unit coming out, drones or lings.

basically if you didnt see a lair, expect a rush coming.

if you 2 rax bunker rushed him and expo behind it, its coming 90% of the time because thats the best thing a Z can do with his extra lings after fending off your push from a hatch first build.

the biggest bust can be up to 20 banelings, enuf to take down the rax wall, thats why you need bunker behind rax....with that double wall, you wont die no matter what and bunker is free teeheee....

but my knowledge of the game had been lacking behind alot...didnt play for almost a month liao, maybe the meta game is diff now.
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post Apr 29 2011, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Apr 29 2011, 10:45 PM)
2 base baneling rush is one of the hardest rush to stop as a terran. you basically need to have a siege mode orientated opening to counter it. if not, you need to know its coming and have bunkers BEHIND your rax wall......or else you will die. ST july love to do this rush ALOT.

symptoms, more than 8 lings running around for no reason on the field (pro zergs dont make lings for no reason), not alot of drones at nat and finally save your 2nd 50 mana for a scan.

3 things to note in your scan.
-zerg got 3 tech path to choose in ZvT by the time you throw down your scan, (1) starting his lair, (2) roach warren, (3) baneling nest.
-how many gas had he mined? he should have mined about 600 gas b4 his bust. (100 for ling speed, 50 for b nest, about 400 for banelings)
-see whats the next round of unit coming out, drones or lings.

basically if you didnt see a lair, expect a rush coming.

if you 2 rax bunker rushed him and expo behind it, its coming 90% of the time because thats the best thing a Z can do with his extra lings after fending off your push from a hatch first build.

the biggest bust can be up to 20 banelings, enuf to take down the rax wall, thats why you need bunker behind rax....with that double wall, you wont die no matter what and bunker is free teeheee....

but my knowledge of the game had been lacking behind alot...didnt play for almost a month liao, maybe the meta game is diff now.
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Great observation! thumbup.gif Showing how important scouting really is.

Basically if I two raxes bunker rush my opponent I'll build my 2nd rax at proxy area near his base. After the rush is over, just fly the rax over his base to see what he plans to do. You can save a scan by doing this (Queen takes ten years to kill the rax).

Anyway I doubt bunker behind rax wall will work. High eco Banelings bust can bust down the front rax and if your bunkers are not positioned perfectly to form the 2nd layer wall, the speedlings and remaining Blings will just go through and go to your mineral line. Furthermore, bunkers are as fragile as depot with 400 hp.

Two layers of rax / factory / CC wall should do the job. This means you'll need about 5 of those to form your wall until the siege tech is out.

This post has been edited by westley0214: Apr 29 2011, 11:10 PM
TSquest_5692
post Apr 30 2011, 07:15 AM

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2 layers of production facility will hurt you alot if the bust didnt come. Bunker placement need to learn how to put lo...sim city is a big part to learn in sc2, good players have 1 set of building placements for each map, all for specific reasons.

Another thing is, xxl baneling bust (enuf to break rax) need about 3 round of blings production, which earliest it can reach is about 8 minutes or what, if you rush dual gas siege mode after a 1 rax fe, your tank will be out about 10 seconds later...once tanks out, ur safe. Check super nova and mkp build order for 1 rax fe fast siege tank. Its actually super popular.

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