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TSmcchin
post Jan 31 2011, 12:59 PM, updated 12y ago

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Long Long Time ago, in the future.....
(~Star War Theme~)

2007 to be exact
Got my self a new system

the specs
Pentium D 930 (bought from an "acquaintance")
Gigabyte GA-8N-SLI (the cheapest store-bought SLI mobo I can afford back then)
2x7600GT in SLI
etc...

Housed in THE CHEAPEST-THINNEST-WOBBLY-CASING that is modeled after Alienware style

Some Pic Circa 2008
This is the side of the casing. As you can see, some mods done here back then
- The fan Grill cut roughly
- Fan hanging from the DVI plug to draw out air
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The Moneh Shot
Turned the HDD cage 90 degrees (an absolute error!!)
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Then 2008 passes
so does 2009, swamped with job responsibility
(some where in that year got to go to Bologna, Italy rclxm9.gif )
2010 was a B!TCH and so we arrive to 2011

Let me recap what was to be of my rig

2007
Intel Pentium D 930
GA-8N-SLi
1GB Samsung DDR2
XFX 7600GT
14" El-cheapo LCD
Enermax 460W PSU
Gigabyte G-Power HSF

Feb 2008
Intel Pentium D 930
GA-8N-SLi
1GB Samsung DDR2 2GB Team DDR 667MHz
XFX 7600GT + XFX 7600GT
14" El-cheapo LCD 24"Dell 2407WFP HC
Enermax 460W PSU
Gigabyte G-Power HSF

Mar 2008
Intel Pentium D 930
GA-8N-SLi
1GB Samsung DDR2 2GB Team DDR 667MHz
XFX 7600GT + XFX 7600GT xPertVision 9600GT
14" El-cheapo LCD 24"Dell 2407WFP HC
Enermax 460W PSU
Gigabyte G-Power HSF

Aug 2008
EEE PC 901
Sony E W595
etc

Lay low for a year, then...
Nov 2009
Intel Pentium D 930
GA-8N-SLi
1GB Samsung DDR2 2GB Team DDR 667MHz
XFX 7600GT + XFX 7600GT xPertVision 9600GT
14" El-cheapo LCD 24"Dell 2407WFP HC
Enermax 460W PSU Seasonic S12D 750W
Gigabyte G-Power HSF - Done some mod (change to Delta Fan)

1H of 2010
Intel Pentium D 930
GA-8N-SLi
1GB Samsung DDR2 2GB Team DDR 667MHz
XFX 7600GT + XFX 7600GT xPertVision 9600GT+ Galaxy 9600GT
14" El-cheapo LCD 24"Dell 2407WFP HC
Enermax 460W PSU Seasonic S12D 750W
Gigabyte G-Power HSF -Done some mod (change to Delta Fan)

2H of 2010
was skulking around for a x58 system
Got a deal to Get Asrock x58 system but then the deal fell through
and by "LUCK" my GA-8N-SLi mobo expires.. doh.gif cry.gif
so got myself an interim mobo, a Asus P5B to tide me over while my other deal is in the pipes

The system as of now
Intel Pentium D 930
GA-8N-SLiAsus P5B
1GB Samsung DDR2 2GB Team DDR 667MHz
XFX 7600GT + XFX 7600GT xPertVision 9600GT+ Galaxy 9600GT
14" El-cheapo LCD 24"Dell 2407WFP HC
Enermax 460W PSU Seasonic S12D 750W
Gigabyte G-Power HSF -Done some mod (change to Delta Fan)


Expected system @ Mar 2011
Intel Core i7 2600K
Asrock P67 Extreme6
8GB G.Skill RipJawsX 1600MHz
xPertVision 9600GT+ Galaxy 9600GT
24"Dell 2407WFP HC
Seasonic S12D 750W
Mod G-Power to be a Tower HSF

So With a new system coming, I ain't gonna stick it in a crappy casing right?
if to be a crappy casing, it would have to by my OWN CRAPPED CASE!

The mod So Far

The case Dismantled until dismantle-able
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The side with the cheesy stuff cut out (with a grinder)
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the mobo tray stuck with the 5.25" cage... ah well have to think of a way
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the nearer view of the main body
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ya I know it's crap, the outlet fan need retouch, the whole rig need reinforcement
and it badly need some new coat of paint
that is for now of the rig pictures

the next post is dedicated for some plan drawings (freehand style)

thank for viewing
I will try my best to drag it out the best i can
make it like an EPIC GRANPA story

This post has been edited by mcchin: Mar 17 2011, 03:42 PM
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post Jan 31 2011, 12:59 PM

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Very sad today

the news of P67 chipset problem really a downer

nevertheless got the chance to scan some hand drawn sketch for opinion

The Side panel, I have Yet to determine whether to place the Acrylics at the usual back or as the xternal look hmm.gif
As for the front, the perforated will be cut out and fitted with a 140mm fan (in the process of obtaining
The Old front panel is totally scrapped and replaced with a simple acrylic hold up with 6 cap screw
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Thought about Opening up the front with a mesh for air flom, but sice scrap the idea too, since i want a clean outlook
The Right Side, there will be a plate cut to size to be fitted various plugs and switches,
Yet to think of a way to hook up this plate the screws, most prolly some malleable metal
The lef side will be left completely open for air flow in
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This is a bit of a mess see the next cleaned up pic for a better understanding, but the main point is how the hdd is hooked up to the case (since i made a mess of the ori case
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Now this pic would show the side view, the main issue here is :
1- The psu is not of modular type, and the back of mobo tray is insufficient to tuck in properly, so I will made a cable management partitions to better control the wires (got the idea from some internet forumer, which uses a partition to coverup WC piping as well place to hook up the reservoir)

2- The whole HDD (3x3.5" 1x2.5") placement was fixed from the start (the front of the GC have the space, so why not use it). The HDD cage was a bit of a thinker, collectively uses up 48 hrs over a period of 5 days to think it up. The cage will be made of acrylic or aluminum sheet (if available) and screw it to the cable management partition.

3- The front would have a 120mm fan below the CDRom For air Direct to Ram-Proc-Exhaust fan which is a 120mm fit to the outside of the case (for more internal real-estate), while the bottom 140mm is use for Cooling HDDs, and GCs and an exhaust fan angled 90 degrees is an after thought. The back plate is use for wall protection. since the last time i clean the case, the wall directly behind the exhaust fan is stuck with dust.


The whole setup is of a straight front to back air flow and does not have a side panel intake, which i think just cause turbulence to the whole flow. Time will tell if there will be heat spots developed. If there is, maybe some winglet ala F1 can redirect some air to those spots laugh.gif

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post Feb 2 2011, 02:16 AM

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But really

The P67 issue is a REAL Damper on EVERYTHING


This is what it looks like, my current setup as of 2nd Feb 2011
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See the smug component sitting there while the savior case is off on a medical vacation in GRIDER H3LL!!! laugh.gif
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Well tis is the place the finish product will be stuffed back into, the back wall warrants a back cover. while, with this orientation, the balcony is to the right. And with the balcony doors always open the fresh air will always comes from the right side through the innards and out back to the left (leg warmer laugh.gif) with the back guide
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Thats all for now, I will update whenever possible sweat.gif



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post Feb 7 2011, 04:24 PM

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well

I need to wait for my 140mm fan before operating again
so the paint job has to wait as well

in the mean time
sprung something up for maybe, possibly, most definite ....future usage

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- a 2.1 Ohm heater wire strip

by calculations

@ 12v =I/R(2.1)
so I=12/2.1
....I=5.7A

and W=VA
.........=12V x 5.7A
-------=68W

What is this you might ask?
add ...
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and ...
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You get
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A DIY acrylic board bender strip

still in progress since
a) The base need a reflective layer (aluminum foil) to reflect the heat instead of being adsorb by the base
b) power supply mod to provide the juice (by shorting the ATX plug and obtain the current from the molex, hopefully workable)


did done some acrylic bending in the past using a mere candle and the result:
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a netbook tray with external HDD holder

Here's the HDD in placed
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though the candle works, to a certain extent, the is inherent problems
- burnt the protective paper to ash, leaving a black residue
- workable in small scale but will be an issue of evenness of the heat on a large surface projects
- bad for the environment, fossil fuel burning



so hopefully this work thumbup.gif
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post Feb 7 2011, 05:26 PM

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lol i like ur sense of humor man

keep it up
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post Feb 7 2011, 06:41 PM

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shocking.gif shocking.gif
wow... nice Technic of bending arcylic.

better than using "iron" method.
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post Feb 7 2011, 10:03 PM

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the acrylic bender, nice idea biggrin.gif
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post Feb 8 2011, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Feb 7 2011, 05:26 PM)
lol i like ur sense of humor man

keep it up
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lol

though unintentional, GlaDos you liked it

QUOTE(tjay_tj @ Feb 7 2011, 06:41 PM)
shocking.gif  shocking.gif
wow... nice Technic of bending arcylic.

better than using "iron" method.
*
The "lilin" technique or the upcoming heater strip way?
really excited about the new one

QUOTE(lun1986 @ Feb 7 2011, 10:03 PM)
the acrylic bender, nice idea biggrin.gif
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thanks, got some updates on the PMMA bender today

JENG JENG JENGlos
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the whole setup tested earlir today
(sorry no actual running test pic, have to curi curi assemble and test the whole thing at the production area whistling.gif )

The PSU used, a chaplang brand FUTURA 450W with 18A@+12V and 45A@+5V
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The heater strip connected with some wires plus modified molex-compatible plugs
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How the plugs connect to the molex
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and the other end which contrary to earlier assumptions, the heater strip is not solder compatible. So in the end, just bend the strip and clamp hard on the wires (insulated for my future children sake)
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how the PSU is booted without a mobo
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Now to the best part of this experiments. Data Collections!!!
Firstly in the top pic, you can see that there is two meter like... thingy. The yellow one is a Fluke Multimeter, whereas the black one is a 305 Thermometer with surface probe

So, against my better intuition and logic (or lack thereof)
I started out with 12v line. Used a multimeter connected to another molex to determine whether i have blown a fuse
And immediately i use the thermometer to check the temp and guess what i found out... sweat.gif

the temperature climb quickly up within 10 secs to (last seen before turning of the PSU) is 180 degree C
(this hi temp test can be seen in the evidently on the red wire tape melting (and start to sizzle...zzzz IRC)

There goes my so called math.... or maybe i underestimated the how much a 68W would translate to temperature.. hmm.gif

any way not much to do now
scrapped and buy some high end Bender
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sad.gif


but wait...(talk about cheap suspense) what about the 5v line ?!!!
okay...okay... enough of the drama crap

@ 5v line i got the temp to rise approx 20C per 10 sec
and the temp just about to stabilized at 140 degrees

check the BOOK (my work book on plastic material) the melt point of PMMA is >200 degrees
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there is another page that shows the HDT ~92

and the net shows the glass transition temp is from 85-165 degrees
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so my 140C 5v setup would do just about optimal softening temp thumbup.gif

still..
i am still lazy to get some aluminium foil yawn.gif

Die another day I guess wink.gif

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post Feb 8 2011, 06:59 PM

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last time i just use the cloth iron to bend the arcylic.
but the bending is not perfect coz not heat enuf.

used stove before but it bubble.
never tried lilin before but i guess i will leave black mark.

nice to learn new technique
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post Feb 8 2011, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(tjay_tj @ Feb 8 2011, 06:59 PM)
last time i just use the cloth iron to bend the arcylic.
but the bending is not perfect coz not heat enuf.

used stove before but it bubble.
never tried lilin before but i guess i will leave black mark.

nice to learn new technique
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nice.. drool.gif
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post Feb 9 2011, 01:25 AM

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Nice building so far man, great sense of humour - we're like grandchildren waiting for the next line in the EPIC GRAMPA STORY!
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post Feb 9 2011, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(tjay_tj @ Feb 8 2011, 06:59 PM)
last time i just use the cloth iron to bend the arcylic.
but the bending is not perfect coz not heat enuf.

used stove before but it bubble.
never tried lilin before but i guess i will leave black mark.

nice to learn new technique
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The lilin or candle way was done out of necessity
Initially i tried covering the burning area with a layer of aluminum foil
but I grew impatient and just burn it outright, along with the brown paper


QUOTE(ultimatedesk @ Feb 9 2011, 01:25 AM)
Nice building so far man, great sense of humour - we're like grandchildren waiting for the next line in the EPIC GRAMPA STORY!
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Thank but you know how granpa stories goes.... keep repeating the same thing over and over and over...over...over...
HEY!! YOU KIDS!!!! GET OUT OF MY LAWN!!!!! laugh.gif

anyway, an update

Got to test out the bender
after just 15sec the acrylic touch the heater, the impatient side of me screaming "BEND!!!!! YOU @#$%^$&*() PIECE OF @#$%^& !!!!!!!!!!!!! "
but luckily the Logic side prevails and remembers that someone said to leave it ~ 30mins? or so

Got it to bend at 10 to 15 mins, which good enough for me


NEXT UP
- Some paint Job? haven't decided on the colour
- Cutting the Acrylics? Don't have a jigsaw, and manual sawing in a B!tch ass job
- Sleep? Good enough for me...zzzzzzzzzz

PS: Haven't gotten around to explaining the project title. Anti-Establishment. I choose this theme is because the social scorns the Casing have gone through. Some of the quotes from the people than came across this casing

QUOTE
E is most certainly equal to MC^2, but this atrocities certainly is EQUAL to a dumpster! 
                                                                                                    -Albert Einstein-


QUOTE
I Spoke to soon when I say "Yes! We CAN". Apparently with this mangled thing, it's a "No! We CANNOT!
                                                                                                                                    -Barrack Obama-


QUOTE
This disaster is a sad story....*wear dark glasses* ... but it's sure not gonna end in a Fairy Tale.... *YEAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!*
                                                                                                                                                  -Horatio Caine-


In reality, the casing was not the best to work with. The wobbly thinness means quite a feat to install lotsa item inside
Plus the spacing is quite cramped for a proper airflow.
Late last year when the Upgrade bug hit me, I did scour around for a new casing. First there's the thermaltake V3 black Ed. Then there's the CM Elite 430 BE join the fray
Luckily with some self control (and alot of net attention-whore needs) finally thought up a proper list and procedure to be done to salvage/spruce up the casing

So Against conventional thinking of binning the sordid thing, I am going build this up and make it as a statement the THE MAN that no one is above the LAW OF THE EARTH!!! ehhh.. what the hell was that? sweat.gif

Anyway to summarize: Typical social perception to this case is to throw the damn thing away. I am Anti-ing the Established thinking and PROVE THEM WRONG!!! vmad.gif flex.gif whoever they may be.


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post Feb 9 2011, 12:24 PM

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hahaha... ya.
Patience is the main skills for modding.
i screw my previous mod also because of lacking of that skill.

about this casing. well gotta start at something anyway.
maybe, just maybe, this case mod will turn into scratch build
haha laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Feb 10 2011, 12:58 PM

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scratch build this is... indeed

Meanwhile, at SnailVille,
a slooowwwwwwww but sure update

A black plate (pardon the green cube...for covering trademark)
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what is this for? look on and you will know

But before that, the other side which I will use as the bottom side
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-buh..buh..but bottom side OF WHAT???

Pic with the bare base casing an top
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Why is this? well the whole base of the case (in the maze, out of space, met some Vulcan Race, ... laugh.gif) where was I?
oh ya... the base of this casing is a thin metal plate, which make it wobbly and warpped easily

Cut to size, the plate will be hold together with a short bolt and nut. The bottom side ribs should be sufficiently tall enough to hide the nuts
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Started this project with a Great Incentive to finish it
A new Sandy Bridge system
but with the P67 chipset debacle dragged till Early April and way over my US contact visit
I dunno how to move on any more

though the supply will resume at April, my sights have been set on a Asrock P67 Extreme6
which is not a popular enthusiast brand here sad.gif

maybe by then there will be better supply on this particular board
or maybe a z68 series? rclxub.gif

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u should have not worried much.
rumours say that intel continue shipping current board at discounted price.
with an add-on card ~ problem sloved.
it might been a good news than

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post Feb 21 2011, 12:20 PM

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10 day have passed and no UPDATES!!!

eh.. pardon the bad Quality pic sweat.gif
brother away for Business trip to The States and took my P&C cam with him\
Now All I am left with a 3.2mpx phone cam doh.gif


All was quite in the pass week due to waiting for some parts
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Clockwise from Top left : CM Blue LED 120mm 90cfm Fan, Spire 140mm Blue UV fan, 120mm + 140mm metal Fan Filter courtesy of niclasteoh, 24mm + 22mm Vandal Resist Switch, courtesy of Limhongwoon)


With the availability of the 140 Fan, I can start with the butchering of the front bottom intake
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The deed was done with a Bosch Angle grinder, touch up with a air grinder. Not the best cut, but much better than doing with a metal scissors

Hey remember the black bottom plate, that I say I wanna use to strengthen the flimsy bottom?
Well got that screwed on
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This sure make the bottom much more rigid plus help the case be more bottom heavy
The screw is temp, and remove for painting. Gonna keep tho plate black

In the mean while done some base paint job

the 1st time was purrfect... but then made the mistake when painting the inner side, by laying the finished side on some partial wet paint newspaper ohmy.gif . Sanding just makes it worse, so OFF with the whole paint with the help of MEK- Methyl Ethyl Ketones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butanone
Damn strong stuff, within 3 seconds the paint turns gooey and a couple of rinse over clear the massacre up

This time around sand again the top cover to 800 grit and wash it with soap + water and left to dry
The smoothness make me think about getting the surface more shiny and just spray a clear lacquer and be done with it.
But then again all the grease in the elbow has dried up, so just gonna use paint to cover it up

Started paint the base coat (matte white) on the top case cover
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pic damn under exposed...this is the 2nd time around

Started @ 2pm and end @ 4pm. The light is fading fast (rainy evening of late)
and a whole new can of RM6 matte white Arrow spray has finished shocking.gif, thats the end for now.....
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Looking pretty good bro smile.gif Keep it up!
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post Mar 6 2011, 09:47 PM

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sigh
really mfind it hard to continue...with the work load like.... sweat.gif
after received the items...(and got to mod some UV-LED on the 140 Bluestar Fan, but that is for later on)

Ther is also someother mod bug in me that have awoken
so rather than open new thread, I will just insert it here
since it deals with delaying the ori project

So where to begin....
it was back then @ 2008 when i just got an EEE 901 as my work pc
my pride and joy back then...hee take a look
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Yeah the cheesy yellow logo was meant to be a Keroro Platoon Sgt Mjr Kururu
http://keroro.wikia.com/wiki/Kururu
that work out about 6month when i tear everything off

now in 2011, the EEE PC still alive and kicking, and the modbug in me lit up
now some timeline event

@Mar 3
-Bought some sticker from forumer xk2
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Seeing how the previous model (EEE PC 900) have a professional look with the Asus logo everywhere
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and this model having a flowery Eee PC logo rclxub.gif
so I am gonna mod the heck out of it.....YEAH!!!!! Buy some sticker and stick to it

@Mar 4
Stick the sticker and the project finish...the end...kapish...liou...habis cerita...log out LYN... go sleep thumbup.gif
laugh.gif

*it is never easy with everything i do...so instead of above, stay tune*

my interest to mod the eee PC 901 starts after saw this ---> http://insanelywind.com/msiarchive/viewtop...hp?f=17&t=11145 mod sometime back in 2009...but buried it in the recess of my lazy yawn.gif mind
then this ori thread mod suddenly picked up and one thing led to another it goes down to this!!!
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ARRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!! MASSACRE!!!!!!! you might say
Among my frens, I am known as Dr. Death of any item that come acraoss my hands

Opps... the limit have been reach to the external Pic linking
(p/s.. this is a lucky one... got to retrieve my previous post from the back button...Thank GOD)


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post Mar 6 2011, 10:09 PM

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well the tragedy continues....

Last seen in the cliffhanger... lets recap what happened...
I have a perfectly working EEE 901 and disemboweled it
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@ Mar 5 (saturday yo..)
took the lid and give it some extra "holes" to it
what the "back hole" looks like
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But like Nip/Tuck http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nip/Tuck
everything can be fixed....
some sandings and touch up
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looks respectable for me, even roped in a good fren to help out
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Obviously i aint gonna leave the Eee logo like that right?
unlike the ori project, for this project, the colour have alrady been picked out... Matte Black
so to paint it over, same sanding is requires...this also means some sacrifice need be done, like how these icon >
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THE POWER ICON!!!!! ARRRGGHHH!!!
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will cease to exist in the new skin

Before sanding every surface, got some time to fixed some other issues... heat
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rought diamonds, as they say, doubled the opening by cutting every other grill off

some touch up
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gonna improved on it if not lazy, otherwise gonna leave it like that
not a stickler to small details
oppsss again...we have come to the external limits again
stay tune, there will be CAKE for you when all of this ends
See you soon.

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Now where was I?

Ohh... on Saturday YO.... Mar 5, I have done some deep surgery to off some parts here and there
also on that day... took like 3 hours to sand down every paintable surface with a 400grit sandpaper

The process
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Then the finished product...
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some part are not clearly sand off, but its okay.
this cheap but quality product have like 2 layers of paint, good stuff if you own it, hard stuff on my elbow grease

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these part have gone through a 43 degrees C of oven drying for ~15mins

That was that... the end for Mar 5 (saturday Yo!!)
left the workplace @ 3.45pm, stop by a pakcik stall to buy 3 bungkus of Air tebu....sedap ooohh

So here we are
Mar 6, Sundee
Back at home and start working on the other partof this project
cut some acrylics out to the required size
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some really super duper elbow grease, and it end up like this
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test insert in the casing
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remove the paper layer
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another temporary stop now...
be sure to stay tune,
there will be Delicious Cake when allof this is over



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