I found that even I've upgraded my firmware to froyo. My phone is still very laggy. I admire my friend's Iphone4. So smooth, be it scrolling or apps. After jailbreak....he can even download apps FOC. Gosh..have I bought a wrong phone? Help!!!!!!!!

I have my galaxy s which is just as smooth but with faster internet browser. All that thanks to optimized kernel.

I assure you that even with a jailbreak, iphone4 doesn't have the same level of functionality as an android phone.

If you dig aesthetics, iphone is better.
If you dig functionality and freedom, android is the way to go

android also can dload many apps & games for free..

Do I really need to root my phone to improve my phone smoothness?
Will there be any differences between official rom and custom rom?
Which rom will be the most stable and give speed and smooth performance?

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Added on February 3, 2011, 3:38 amDo I really need to root my phone to improve my phone smoothness?
Will there be any differences between official rom and custom rom?
Which rom will be the most stable and give speed and smooth performance?

This post has been edited by Star_knight79: Feb 3 2011, 03:38 AM

It'd be better if we help him right?

Despite galaxy s superb hardware capabilities, samsung made a bad choice of using in-house RFS (robust file system) as a file system format in the system instead of well used YAFFS or ext4. RFS or retarded file system was badly coded that it made the phone became slow and sluggish which is apparent after a few days (my experience, after a week) of use. Latest firmware of froyo (2.2.1) seen a good improvement over the earlier one in eclair.

The beauty of android and galaxy s, specifically is that it is very easy to tweak the phone at software level to your own liking.

Many of us here has chosen to use a much better firmware from third-party developers together with better kernel (the software core of the phone).

Pardon me for the technical jargon. But what can you do to improve the performance of your phone? The moost minimal invasive way is to just use an app called "one click lagfix" or OCLF for short. This app converts the RFS in the phone system into ext4 with ext2 binds. Suffice to say, your phone will fly again. (not fly away literally!)

To get this app, you need to download the apk file at http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment...98&d=1290580765 You need to have an xda-developers forum account to download this.

There are of course more invasive, but with more rewarding way to further increase the performance of the phone in addition to installing different themes, battery icons and lockscreens among other. Let OCLF be the first step towards that!

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Added on February 3, 2011, 3:50 amhaha, you posted while I was typing a reply.
1. custom roms are usually faster than the official ones
2. Darkyy's rom is the most newbie friendly. You can start with that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814091
3. There's a big FAQ here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596 Make sure you read all of them before jumping into custom rom
4. rooting is just having access to places in the phone normal people shouldn't go into. It won't increase smoothness. installing kernel or custom roms will.

This post has been edited by gmhafiz: Feb 3 2011, 03:50 AM

a new review from slightly different i900 : http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9003_gala...-review-562.php

the best part IMO is :


battery is 1650mAH instead.. but with SLCD. not superAMOLED. with much lower price tag.
plus&minus, it is still great.

hye, i'm just receive my galaxy s from my father. but my father only give the phone and charger. which software shud i use to backup and sync contach from outlook?

From the review they did mentioned that the battery can fit our battery bay. Thats a good news!

I saw my friend's Iphone 4 has 326MB memory free when all apps being closed. And we have 512RAM in my phone and yet. I never had free memory more than 150MB. Why huh??
Besides, even if there is just about 40MB free RAM available in iphone4, the apps still running smooth. (if only 40MB RAM left in my phone??? Huh, it's going to be like a snail already) What lah, you google inc cheater!!

Hi Star_Knight, I were in your same situation last time. I also in a dilemma of choosing between IPhone and SGS. Finally. I choose SGS due it flexibility. I am the first batch to use it after launch by Maxis last year July. I stick with it original firmware until Tuesday. I always believe original is better until I decided to rooted it and flash with custom rom. This done with the help of all SGS sifu in this forum. After that, my phone unleash its potential and no more lagging that I have it through half year. SGS is highly customable and I believe users among us is very helpful. That my 2 cents only.

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!


Woh, a major downgrade. OMAP 3630 and SLCD? Samsung out of hummingbird?

It's the android system itself. iPhone and SGS both have 512MB ram, but android uses more ram for internal drivers, so... we have less available ram. Wait for samsung to release new kernel drivers with more ram. Froyo had 304MB and Froyo 2.2.1 had 339MB. Chill, just make do with what we have. My phone multitasks and don't bog down also. iPhone don't multitask right, I just don't get it with my previous iPhone.

Hey.... anyone here use Miui player??


It comes with Darky Rom ......


They say its better than the stock music player..... but Miui player doesnt have much settings at all??


I cant seem to find the settings like changing from ROCK POP BASS etc like they have on the stock player....


and it doesnt have the 5.1 surround like the stock player??



Can anyone clarify this?? or is it just me that cant find the settings to these stuff??

yeah, no such settings

I fear that since apple stole, I mean bought off intrisity (the company that design hummingbird and a4 chip), samsung had to look elsewhere to design its chip. They couldn't find one now. That's why they resort to omap. Now what will happen to orion?

Obviously, amoled production is reserved for the next galaxy s. New amoled factory still under construction kot

About the ram rant, apple sacrifice functionality for a great user experience (except its notification system-ask him how annoying and intrusive it is). Iphone4 is alot less functional compared to galaxy s. That's why it uses less ram.

Galaxy s OTOH, can do alot of things, thus the ram is used. Alot of free ram is a waste anyway as I have explained before. Free ram = wasted ram. My netbook only uses 57MB ram although it has 512MB ram. Upgrading to 4GB ram won't make it smoother and faster! In android and windows 7, free ram is turned into cached. That's why you see less free ram is available. Cache helps to speed up your phone.

Many of us install optimized kernels and flash custom rom that totally unleash the power of galaxy s.

tl/dr Galaxy S is awesome, fast and can do alot of things iphone4 can't.
It still is even with tegra2 based phones coming

Addon: For a pretty and simple phone, get iphone. For pretty and functional, get android. Haha, I love my galaxy s!

This post has been edited by gmhafiz: Feb 3 2011, 11:52 AM

Multitask? I suppose iphone 4 did everything like SGS.
Can explain further about SGS?

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Added on February 3, 2011, 12:13 pmGreat! Can sifus teach me how to show off back to my friends with iphone4?
What are the functional things that I can do with my SGS and not on Iphone 4?
My friend has Papago in his Iphone 4, what do I have?

This post has been edited by jd4eva: Feb 3 2011, 12:13 PM

Seems like jd4eva is having the same problem as mine.

@Gmhafiz thank you so much for your helping hands and patience. May I know which Rom and Kernel are the most stable and smooth? I have zero knowledge on custom rom. If I'm rooting for the first time. Titanium backup just won't work, right? Wat should I use then? My backup pro (I'm willing to pay if it's good)

@kcwo May I know what custom rom u r using?

You too can have papago on ur SGS

IPhone 4 cannot do a true multitask....you can read more about the details online if you are interested.

Iphone is a simple phone for normal functions.

Iphone 4 has limitations:
1) Cannot support Flash
2) Cannot cannect thru USB
3) Cannot transfer files thru Bluetooth
4) Antennagate problem
5) Facetime (videocall) only via WIFI, cannot use with 3G.
6) Lower screen technology (although they call it Retina display). SGS has SuperAmoled!
7) No Live wallpapers, no widgets etc.

A lot of my friends who bought iphone DO NOT know these limitations. After buying it, they have to live with its limitations, but they do enjoy the simplicity and ease of use.

So, if you are looking for a simple phone, go for IPhone. If you are more technology savvy and wants a complex and great functional phone, get the SGS.

JUst my 2 cents...

1. Multitasking.
Iphone 3gs can't multitask. Iphone4 still can't. What they show looks like multitasking but it actually isn't. Multitasking means having different apps running concurrently in the background.

When you switch apps, the previous app is put to sleep and saved into ram. This means, that app doesn't run at all. Your iphone4 friend ius actually running one app only. There's an exception to this rule. Some apps like browser or music player can tun in the background. Only limited apps, up to six I think can run in the background, and each app developer has to update their app to take advantage of this.

Android on the other hand, truly multitask just like your desktop computer. No pausing of apps. If more ram is needed, unused app is cleared off to make space for newly opened app. This is another reason why there's little free ram in android. This has its downside too. If an app is poorly designed, it will eat up your ram and battery.

2. see this, http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...20&p=39579458&#

Ts, we need a post that teaches android newbie how to brag our phone to iphone users this is important so that we can help change the perception of public mind that android is superior than iphone!
advantages:
- Android has papago too. Along with other gps navigation apps.
- widgets - no need to open separate apps to see twitter, fb updates
- launchers
- google maps with 3d buildings - iphone has one too but is outdated.
- free google sky
- unobtrusive and not annoying notification system
- ability to play a wide range of videos and music
-.swype keyboard
- 3d gallery
- can browse for apps from the comfort of your computer and click install from there. It will magically appear on the phone!
- free angry birds with all levels!

- audiophile quality sound output.
- more beautiful screen - super amoled ftw
- can do tv output using 3.5mm headphone jack to rca.
- lighter
- no need cables to sync, just do it wirelessly.

Others please add some more. Too much typing swype FTW!

No and Yes. Bluetooth can tranfer files. But only to the i-family product only
No. After jailbreak. Facetime can use 3G as well through 3rd party apps I think.
Retina display is good enough. No need always SuperAMOLED.
Livewallpaper....SGS has limited nice wallpapers. Those from Samsung is excellent. But from other source.....Duh!!!
I don't know. I just wanna put my SGS to the full potential so that when I show it to my friend, they are the one to think that they should get SGS. Not the other way round.....Do you understand me?
I choosed SGS because I really thought that it's a great phone.....But now, it doesn't seem to me to be like that.....Can anyone help me to change that perception?