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 ❤ LYN Proton INSPIRA: Owners/Fan Thread V4 ❤, SMART GUYS GET IT! | Got yours yet?

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post Feb 19 2011, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Feb 19 2011, 01:07 AM)
what you see is rain water marks that is left to dry by itself, since there is no way we can quickly dry our cars after going through rain so it will dry on it's own, bad news is that most cars suffer this problem, I did SG because I need the ease to wash my car, after about nearly 2 month, still the dirt is easily wiped off during my car washing session, true we can't do waxing to remove it, what you can do is bring it back to the shop and seek their help if the stain is really bothering you, I am pretty sure they can help you remove it then reapply the SG layer on the localized spot(most of the time minor jobs they don't charge you because I have asked be4), I never regretted SG as I benefit from it every time I do my own car wash.
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Yup, I actually have no baseline to compare that, as before I got this new car, I let my maid wash my old one LOL. So SG may actually be making car wash easier, and I wouldn't really know. I did expect it to be so good that a hose down at high pressure should remove the dirt on my car, but it doesnt. Like it or not still need to shampoo I guess. Maybe mine's not as good because immediately after SG, on my way home, it started raining. LOL. mad.gif Don't know if it would affect the enwly applied layer.
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post Feb 20 2011, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Feb 19 2011, 01:17 PM)
Bro, now its clear...

Did you wipe your car when u reach home in rain after doing the SG?? How long ago did u SG yr car?

There was a Hyundai Sonata black that had the same problem... finished SG in the late afternoon and drove it home in rain, and he dried it... but later at night it rained again and he didnt wipe, and drove it the next morning again without wiping it... this caused "water-mark" stains in the silica layer... and he had to redo SG all over again to remove it.... and nope... clay bar wont remove the stain marks either...

So, the 1st day after SG is the most crucial, Mr Choong and his staff usually ask you to wait 30mins before driving off, and to wipe off any rain drops, or dont let rain water dry in the sun (if possible)... My car was completed at 3pm, and i only drove it off at 430...

My SG layer is absolutely perfect for thus far... ask JackNg as he surveyed my SG layer last night and compared it to his... and I have only been using just water in 2 buckets to wipe the car....

EDIT: Go back to SG very soon... nego with Mr Choong to redo the affected parts...  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Ok. Will contact Choong and see what he can offer me. My semester start already, so it will be hard for me to find time to go all the way there, unless I reschedule with my students.

QUOTE(J-Saber @ Feb 19 2011, 09:00 PM)
Driving around Cheras bumps, so far no more nyek nyek sound lo  tongue.gif

It depends on how to look after your car lo.

For me, every week after long distance sure wash and if need to wax then will wax it lo.

SG is just a coating to make your cleaning job easy lo, still need to do the cleaning one lah bro  tongue.gif

As for those with the money, itu kita panggil rezeki lah  laugh.gif No need to compare lah.

Masing-masing pun ada rezeki.

For me, I prefer to do research 1st and look around for opinions, then put aside or slowly kumpul

duit to do the upgrade and modding lo.

For those who have the cash go ahead and upgrade lah, after all it's your drive mah.

You will really enjoy your ride if you love to drive in it  rclxms.gif


Added on February 19, 2011, 9:09 pm
Just to share, when I got the car last year, next day went to change the gear oil already.

Flush the old gear oil and you will see a lot of small small silver particles like dust.

Those are tiny metal dust cause it's a new car and will act like sand paper on your CVT system.

So your CVT cepat haus lo.

After second gear oil change, no more or really less dust liao  rclxms.gif 

Now change to Mitsubishi's Diamond ATF SP III gear oil already  tongue.gif
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Are you sure the silvery particles are from the the mechanical portions? I've read that new engines have special run in oils that have silvery flecks in them. These flecks/particles are purposely added in to help with the break in process (I can't remember the exact details). Not sure if that's the same case for your CVT.


QUOTE(uberific @ Feb 20 2011, 12:31 AM)
how often do u WAX or polish ur car? after every wash? once a month?
will waxing or polishing wear off the paint?
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Waxing often is ok, but polishing often is bad for your clearcoat, if I'm not mistaken.
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post Feb 21 2011, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Neoz @ Feb 21 2011, 02:35 AM)
Cannot la.. forte powerful imported car, inspira local made proton only..  icon_idea.gif
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I hope you're being sarcastic hahaha. The engines are still from the same GEMA build (in case you didn't know, both forte 2.0 and inspira 2.0 use the same engine basically), the new 6 speed gear ratios is probably like other auto transmissions that are more than 4 speed = the extra gears only affect highway driving for increased fuel efficiency, the first 4 are hardly changed (although I'm sure they are changed slightly). Overall, the difference will be minimal if any.


QUOTE(kyheng @ Feb 21 2011, 10:04 AM)
No source on this, based on Proton's way of doing business.
Like Waja got 2 version of power window gear, 1 plastic(cheaper obviously) and metal gear. The version with plastic gear always fail.
Like my 2003 Wira, always have TB blocked and fuel filter got carbon... While 2001 Wira don't have such problems....
Have to know that, the suspension system only changed in terms of parts being used. And this is the part that having the most complaints.
We have 1.8 Lancer in Taiwan, but do they have complaint on this?
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It would help to say it's "my opinion" or "I think" or "from my observation" or "what I feel". Currently you're talking like it's a fact, which can confuse people, hence the asking for source. Your comparison of cars based on your experience are of older cars. Proton is under a new management now. Things MAY be different, and I say MAY. I don't know for sure, but neither do you right? Heck, Proton ICare even started calling up inspira oners personally to check on their cars... Isn't that telling you something?

There's a difference between being analytic, critical, pessimistic and cynical. I don't suggest that everyone heap praise on the Inspira, but it's painfully obvious which category you fall into.
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post Feb 21 2011, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Feb 21 2011, 12:11 PM)
haha..yea..sometimes have to be sarcastic to please the some diehard forte fans, not all, just some.

btw, our 4b11 has variable timing on intake and exhaust as opposed to forte's intake variable timing only smile.gif
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Feb 21 2011, 12:20 PM)
applies to 4B10, 4B11, 4B11T and 4B12
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Great info! hehe.
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post Feb 21 2011, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(kyheng @ Feb 21 2011, 01:50 PM)
Ok.... So, you want facts :
1. why would Proton have to test out so many suspension systems in the first place?
2. why there's >20 companies supplying parts to Proton? And the quality of the parts varies?
3. why other car makers are making profit last year but not Proton?
4. ICare called to ask is there any problem. But then when there's problem, can they solve it? The only answer is "sir, you have to wait, wait and wait.". This is telling me that, they are testing my blood pressure.
5. The fact of Inspira has the PDI and it stated PDI OK. But again, there's still problems here and there.
6. Indeed new management want to make some changes, but then did the front liners changed? Did the attitude changed?
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1. Why not? when you are looking for a supplier, you give them a budget, give them your requirements and test them to see if they meet your requirements.
2. Again, why not? And if the quality varies, is it PROTON's fault? or the SUPPLIER'S fault? Isn't it painfully obvious?
3. What does this have to do with the topic at hand?
4. They can't solve it? SOURCE PLEASE? Just your speculation? Of course we have to wait. Fabricating a new part may be a quick process, but testing it to ensure it meets the required standards, and does not make the same mistake as the previous one takes time. Imagine it it took 1 week for our absorber to start making noises, and Proton now has to tests 20 different compounds, so? How long will that take?
5.Just in case you are not clear, the problems DID NOT appear untill a few weeks after we drove our car around. How on earth would the PDI checks have found this out? You rather Proton test every car for a month before release?
6. And I can just as easily ask you, did they not? How do you know? The fact that Proton is actually actively testing new parts and the old parts shows that Proton is being proactive about it. You just don't want to see that.


QUOTE(kyheng @ Feb 21 2011, 02:30 PM)
Atleast those companies willing to do recall.... No car is perfect, this is a fact. But something that they can do is really listen and solve the problem.... That's why many many years ago T and H's target market is the world while Proton target Malaysia only. Now Korean brand also slowly have a share in this cake(wolrd market) and Proton still target Malaysia only...
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I have yet to see any announced recalls that do not deal with safety critical issues. Honestly, if Proton decides to initiate a recall I'll be surprised, as noise is not critical. But you don't know, and I don't know, so lets not speculate. The latest city and jazz recalls are for danger of short circuit which would be a disaster if your cars are on the move. Latest lexus recall is for possible fuel sensor issues which may become loose, causing a fuel leak which... I hope you realise = disaster. Latest proton recall was neo's airbags, which could deploy uneccesarily. Do you see a pattern?

Maybe I should just treat you the way you treat proton. Since proton gave you (and me) some bad experience, we'll forever judge them as a waste of time. Since most of your posts are plain speculation, i'll also judge all your future posts as a waste of time. Is that fair? By the way, you didn't give me facts.

I digress. Proton is not perfect, I know that. I only show the other side of the coin because your know-it-all tone when you actually don't is annoying. Anyway, it's a free forum and all can air their grouses ( = One day, you may be proven right all along, and our hopes were in vain, but until that day comes, peace.

QUOTE(jychow @ Feb 21 2011, 06:54 PM)
QUOTE(XCInspire @ Feb 21 2011, 06:41 PM)

Interested in space saver tire:
1) JackNg
2) Poadster
3) XCinspire
4) jychow
5) RahXephon
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post Feb 21 2011, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(kyheng @ Feb 21 2011, 09:52 PM)
1. corruption take place
2. corruption take place
3. mis-management
4. never give a solid timeline = they can't find solution. And if a car manufacturer's goal are giving users a quality car, every parts will be tested for longer period of time. That's why Proton still the same, never change even after 25 years. And hoping some butthurt fanboys to support them only.
5. Keep on testing new and old but yet every models still have problems here and there, proactive on what? I don't know.
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Just highlight your own words. I don't have to say anything.

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post Feb 22 2011, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(k00Lric @ Feb 22 2011, 11:17 AM)
That means the spare tire is not for inspira. It has to be for other car make. Do they have evo X spare tire at the half cut shop?
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Hmm, is it possible that the label mentioning the tyre is upside down is meant for when you fit the tyre to the car, and not meant to be read when storage? What does the label say exactly bro SitYong?


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post Feb 22 2011, 01:04 PM

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Yesterday I sat in a brand new Golf GTI up genting and drove part way back.

WTB: BOT.


Super good. haha.
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post Feb 23 2011, 02:02 AM

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I liket the new place. Now, need to get moar ppl to join happy.gif
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post Feb 23 2011, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Feb 23 2011, 09:10 PM)
Had this problem since day 1.

when go above 110km/h will have this hissing sound.

went to eon ipoh on 17th feb and have it checked..foreman opened the window seals and put it back and did several high speed runs, even took out the visor and cant find out why. before i left, he adjust the door to close deeper and now the sound only comes from 120-130kmh onwards.

what you bros thing could be the problem? i ask eon ipoh to change the weatherstrip but now they say need to ask proton mechanic to check, do test runs again which im not keen on.(eventhough eon foreman confirms that there is such sound).

now, cant do much till around end of May, will be busy with my exams in usm kubang kerian.

Called eon customer service and tomorrow she'll call me back to update me on the situation.

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Ouu... I don't have this problem. Is it only from the passenger window? The sound could in theory becoming from any misaligned panel, or even indirectly the AC system as mentioned.


QUOTE(alam_lara @ Feb 23 2011, 09:29 PM)
Bro, u got super bright parking light over  there  rclxms.gif ... need that when rainy day or at dawn.... biggrin.gif

Bro, can u post a pic when u switch on both headlight and parking light. I want to see if the parking light overshadow the headlight.
Another thing about the UR strut bar, If u guy check to the mounting base, actually it is not flat, there are 3 small bumps exist at the mounting base. 1 of the bump is been sitting by the strut bar thus creating a gap between the 2 surfaces. This is because the surface mount the UR strut bar is flat. When this is happen, there is an overstress created at one the mounting screw, which is the end. Thus the welding joint become weak and easily crack. It's happen to me. The 1st strut bar crack at the welding joint, but since i bought it from the distributor, i got a replacement for free. Now im using the 2nd strut bar. Now after 1and half month i used it there is a small sign crack.  So do you guy experience it too?  hmm.gif


Added on February 23, 2011, 9:34 pm
Bro, Did that EON Sc servicing lancer too? if yes u can ask them about the problem. If the lancer  do have this problem, then proton inherit from mitsubishi
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QUOTE(alam_lara @ Feb 23 2011, 10:19 PM)
Cool...  now goin to get that LED light  biggrin.gif
Bro, after watch ur video, mine also have that hissing too.... but im starting to hear it after 90km/h and become louder as the speed increasing. im suspecting the rubber band both at the door and also at the body. i found that the rubber band is too soft especially at the front body and also at the back door.

Ok here i post the pictures regarding the UR strut bar...  the picture shud explain more
Note: u guy cant see the crack coz it too small... and my Handphone Flash lite not so good  vmad.gif
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Oooh, interesting info about the strutbar. Does the lancer have this bump too?

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post Feb 24 2011, 12:03 AM

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Wow, today LYN Inspira club super busy lol.
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post Feb 24 2011, 12:22 AM

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came home to 99+ mails in my inbox. all from LYN ahahaha.
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post Feb 24 2011, 12:32 AM

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Because I like to keep up to date in forums, so every reply sends me a mail. Was super busy today though, so only got to check my mail once in the afternoon, and once at midnight. within that span, LYN kena bomb hahaha.
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post Feb 24 2011, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Feb 24 2011, 12:39 AM)
Tot so.... i nvr wanted it.... hahaha

I hear you and SitYong going Rainbow tomolo????
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Depends if Robert calls him.
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post Feb 25 2011, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Feb 25 2011, 12:56 PM)
lee0125: as a few frens here have mentioned, double tint is not worth it... as adding another layer to it will add to the thickness of the films, and I am sure that the tint shop will ask you to REMOVE the ori Ecotint and only use theirs to maintain the warranty... so my advice... keep it or remove it for new tint...

Oh ya... the voucher, they would have marked up for it... try asking around for prices elsewhere... and bargain hard...

Psst... you know that darkness of the film has nothing to do with direct heat from sun right?? Test the ori Ecotint in direct sun first, then decide.... in our weather, no tint can keep you car cool when parked under sun, even if its totally black...

Come to the TT... then u can feast your eyes on what you wanna do to it....

alam_lara: welcum... have a nice stay...
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Yup, dark tints may reduce glare when in the car, but dark colours actually absorb more heat, heating up the car faster. It does increase the feeling of privacy though haha.


QUOTE(DM3 @ Feb 25 2011, 02:23 PM)
fyi cars over in jpn all no sound when on /off car alarm, only here we are so use to it. but its matter of time we will get used to it.
i had to always recheck if i already lock my car or not when car outside/malls etc
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Not only Japan, Golf GTI also like that. dunno bout other makes of VW.
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post Mar 1 2011, 10:15 AM

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Went to Rainbow yesterday to get my skirting up. By the time I reach home, one side coming off already >.< Aiiih later have to go there again. Oooh. I met mrYellow there. Hi!
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QUOTE(sityong @ Mar 1 2011, 01:13 PM)
huh....how they installed? double tape not strong enough? result good or not, my one is ready on Friday
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I think it's probably because my car is sierraglowed, the flourin + silicon layer caused the tape to come off by the time I reached home (20 mins after instalation, no rain)

Today they took more care to line the tape more carefully, but they drilled to holes to fasted the sides to the wheel well. I'm very unhappy that they had to drill. They said they needed to put scews, but they didn''t say they had to drill, so I said ok to the screws, mana tau next thing I hear is drilling sound LOL. The bottom part of the car is exposed to a lot of water. Drilling will expose the inner metal, and rust will probably set in from there.

I really suggest before any of you get your skirts done, clean your car properly so the tape won't peel of due to dirt, then watch them carefully when they fix it to do a good job. Avoid drilling if possible. Really not a good idea to drill unplanned holes in the wheel well.

Skirting looks great, but rust spots forming in the future won't be cool at all. I'm actually thinking of getting my own super heavy duty tape, disassembling the skirt, and re-taping myself. Most of the youg guys at rainbow just couldn't care less, doing their job without attention to details. Only one guy, after I complained twice today, removed the skirting again, and put an extra lining of tape to increase the contact patch. If they do fast, and it says fast, ok la.. but this one... yesterday do fast, came off. today do fast, still can see tap starting to sag... HAHA. rclxub.gif 3rd time much better.
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Mar 1 2011, 03:12 PM)
rahxephenon,

why need to drill the side? actually for side skirts if use the lancer/lgt's no need to drill all the holes at the bottom already have holes for direct mounting and the side skirts have holes for drainage .
even the lgt dun have have mounting holes at the heel wall
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The holes at the bottom are there, but the tape cannot support the weight of the skirts, probably due to the sierraglow layer on my car. So they drilled one hole on each wheel well to screw in the side. Regret now >.<.
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Short scraping sound at low revs.



You can sort of hear the sound at bump number 3, about 23 secs into the video. In the car, the sound is actually higher pitched and more metallic in nature than what I managed to record. Basically, I hear this sound whenever I'm on low revs, Like pulling out of parking, sometimes at traffic lights, and at bumps. I intentionally did not depress the clutch when I went over this bumps on second gear, so the revs dipped quite low.

I did a second pass and tried to video the RPM's, but the sound although there, was much harder to record. Probably due to the position of my phone.

second vid, sound appears at 9 secs and 18secs.

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QUOTE(XCInspire @ Mar 2 2011, 06:10 PM)
Not sure if I am used to the noisy Mitsu engine sound but I think its the metal based cvt chain sound. At low rev, the chain grins harder to pull the car from low speed to higher speed. Once up to speed, the chain need not stress too much to maintain speed.

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I thought it was that too, but a little uncertain, so want to check if anyoen has this noise, and if they have had their car checked up.

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