Handling?
Engine performance?

seriously i doubt 0-100 is 10.3 sec..
my honda city vtec is even faster than it...
i tested it in sports mode too...

i've test drive prius and ct200h...
same engine but ct200h is heavier..
prius got more power cause its lighter.. can feel better acceleration..
the car seriously is damn nice... but to me i think its really underpowered

upgrading from City to CT? kewl

its cheaper. but we still getting ripped off by UMW.

Welcome to Malaysia buddy.. Even plotong and pelodua is ripping everyone la..

We have to accept the fact that our cars are much more expensive than others , it's not only lexus. Or Toyota, others thr same. At least, we a vy much better off than our neighbour Singapore. Ct200h is selling SG 150k or RM350k.....so what say you about that. We should consider ourselve lucky!

dun covert bro... their average income is a few times ours if you convert..

the reason cars are expensive in Malaysia is due to the import tax the government impose right? so right now, with the exemption..this is pure profiteering by UMW. they can price the Ct200h as such as the rest of the cars sold here are still taxed.. so relatively it is "cheap".

this is what you call getting slaughtered.

but yes, relatively, it is cheaper. sort of like the lesser of 2 evil.

edit: i don't wish to draw comparisons to other countries cause honestly, its not relative. i can draw comparison to USA and its so much cheaper there. then we can argue till cows come home.

This post has been edited by Jason: Mar 15 2011, 11:51 AM

I think you are contradicting yourself. You said dont' compare with other countries cause they are very much cheaper then us. OK, then how then you conclude we are expensive if you dont compare with others. You must bench it against the same car to know whether it is overprised here. Dont tell me you are comparing with Honda insight and say it is expensive.

All companies are profit driven. If they can price it higher and sell, why dont they. I am sure you will dothe same if you are in their shoes. The question should be can they sell at that price. I am not defending UMW and I have nothing to do with them. I am just a CT buyer.

For your information, bulk of the cost also goes to the AP, maybe u didn't know.

i shall clarify.
its not fair to directly compare prices of cars here in Malaysia and other countries, so we compare prices of cars relative to each other.

in the UK
Lexus CT200h full spec £30,635
Honda Insight ES (Same trim as Malaysia) £18,285

in Malaysia
Lexus CT200h full spec RM201,858 *TAX EXEMPT*
Honda Insight RM98,000 *TAX EXEMPT*

In Malaysia, you can't buy a CT200h for the price of 2 Insights. In UK you can with a lot of change to spare. So in Malaysia you can say either Honda priced their car too cheap, or UMW priced theirs too high.

u definitely a dumb idiot who live inside the caves.

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Added on March 16, 2011, 7:14 pmbeside sales tax that only charge 10% on this car, do u noe there are how many kind of tax overall??
tax hunger country like denmark charge another 100% on the cost + profit margin quoted, for ours its roughly another 100% implied on those rate, so it basically is around 4 times more expensive than many others.

This post has been edited by kennie: Mar 16 2011, 07:14 PM

Does Full tax exemption (Import duty & Excise Tax) for Hybrid below 2.0 in MALAYSIA for the year 2011 ring any bell

The only thing paid to government is the AP (AFAIK, it cost about RM10k for an AP) and the 10% Sales Tax

This post has been edited by psyeo: Mar 16 2011, 07:23 PM

and the balance is profit for UMW! they manage to take advantage of the exemption and make more profit. i think profit margin of the CT200h is higher in Malaysia than many other countries. bravo.

I agreed comparing in that manner is more rational. On the same ground, however

If you look at Thailand, CT price in relation to insight are the same , i.e. about 2 times. I think comparing thailand would be more sensible.

How much is the basic CT in UK? Ours is 160k ++ i.e. about 1.6 or 1.7 times of insight.

And don't forget, insight is thailand made whereas CT is japan made. That make a big difference in term of quality and the issue of AP.

AP cost much more than RM10 k nowadays. At least double or triple now.

I am not saying UMW not making a lot, I am saying ALL car dealers make a lot, be it francise holder or parallel importers.

This post has been edited by tpleong: Mar 16 2011, 08:50 PM

Bro, correction..there is only 1 place that build Insight, and that is Japan..

I think u have mistaken it with Prius, there is Thailand build unit for Prius. However afaik Prius sold in Malaysia comes from Japan too.

Ppl think it this way, if the tax is in place, you'll have to pay much more than the price they are selling.

seriously is there any company out there that dont want to make profit? u think UMW is a welfare company?

and it's a lexus... if price is an issue, get a prius or insight, i think you still can save the world, minus the style.

i think its the later

in malaysia UMW has been profiteering like mad

they hide under the local high tax as an excuse

y dont you compare their sg salary with m'sia? u cant just compare by just convert the currency bro. y dont you compare sg toyota spec with m'sia toyota spec. u will suprise

You getting all wrong. What I am saying is , generally car in s'pore is 50 % more expensive than malaysia but this CT is 75% more expensive than us so it only means our is cheaper comparatively.

I never said car price in s'pore should be the same as m'sia.

If the tax is not exempted, i believe lexus will price it around RM270k range for the premium model as it is around the IS250 basic model price.

Let's not argue about the pricing...........more about the car itself.

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Added on March 17, 2011, 8:46 amExactly, Everyone have a choice.

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Added on March 17, 2011, 8:49 amYup.......what to do unless we dont want to drive a car . Proton is selling cheaper in UK than in M'sia with higher specs.

This post has been edited by tpleong: Mar 17 2011, 08:51 AM

U only save fuel if u maintain 70-80kph max speed. Any higher than 90kph and FC will be higher than non-hybrid cars.

Saw a few Insight speeding along NKVE recently... woo... all new WUX and WVA plates. Must be testing power here and there. But, in reality... these owners are not saving fuel at all... more like burning more than their old cars.

This post has been edited by acbc: Mar 17 2011, 09:12 AM