So im getting a new laptop and im waiting for the sandy bridge laptops to come out. So far i've heard some decent ones from Asus (G53SW and G73SW) MSI (GT680R) and alienware (M17x R3)

Basically im looking for a sandy bridge with dual hard drives. the other specs are standard.

so my question is which is most reliable? I want it to last a reasonable amount of years with good service and warranty. Any opinions?

budget?

i guess u may want to stick to AW (Dell) or Asus when comes to warranty... Dell has on-site service while Asus has 2yrs of int'l warranty by default...

no comments on MSI... dun even know where to find their svc center in the 1st place...

If u dont care the price should go for.dell

get clevo p170hm upto i7 2920xm and gtx 485m if it filts your budget

the models you mentioned have gtx 460m max

for ultimate gaming get clevo x7200 with gtx 485m sli and upto core i7 990x desktop proc from xotic pc

yup, but warranty can be a headache with Sager...

Well.. Dell's service sure is good. Just get an Alienware with extended 3 years Premier Service & 3 Years Complete Cover

yeah i think i'd only get sager if i was going to the states. and alienware is hella expensive if i add the 3 years warranty. my budget can be about 8k. but i can get the asus and msi for much less right?

and i think the gtx460m is enough. i actually wouldnt mind the HD6850 or something like that. just want to know how trustworthy their products and services are and problems with the machine and whatnot

then get asus 2 year international warranty

Go for Sager meh...

if 8k then definately sager there is a user here called princej he offers 1 yr local wrty on sager

just get a x7200 with these specs the price is usd 2600 around rm 8k contact prince j he will give you a cheaper rate. This is a GTX 470m sli laptop.

Sager NP7280 / Clevo X7200
- 5% Student / Military / International Cash Discount + Accessory Bundles for Students - Up to 50% OFF!
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Glossy Screen (1920x1080)-
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- Intel® Core™ i7-950 (3.06-3.33GHz) 8MB L3 Cache, 4.8 GT/sec QPI, LGA 1366
- -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- SLi ENABLED DUAL (2) 1536MB PCI-Express nVIDIA GTX 470M's (3072MB Total) w/GDDR5 DX11 Video Cards (User Upgradeable) + Extra AC Adapter & Power Converter
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 6,144MB DDR3 1066MHz Memory (3 SODIMMS)
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache) - Default
- None Standard -
- No Additional Hard Drive in ODD Bay (When adding Hard Drive, Optical Drive Is Not Included/Removed)
- HDD Raid Settings - OFF
- No Additional Hard Drive in ODD Bay - When Selecting, The Hard Drive is sent in Optical Bay Caddy that will need Bezel Replaced from Optical Drive (When in use Optical Drive Must be Removed)
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- No Back Up Software
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 3-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS)
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card
- No Network Accessory
- Integrated Digital Video Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Basic Black Business Case - Included
- Primary Smart Li-ION Battery Pack - Included
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based-

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Added on January 25, 2011, 9:46 pmor save some by getting this its usd 2050 around 6.2k with i7 2820qm+gtx 485m mind you gtx 460m sli = 1 gtx 485m

Sager NP8170 / Clevo P170HM
- 17.3" FHD LED Backlit 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1920x1080)
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- -2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2720QM, 2.2-3.3GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- nVidia GeForce GTX 485M 2,048MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 (User Upgradeable)
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 6,144MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache) - Default
- None Standard -
- HDD Raid Settings - OFF
- No Additional Hard Drive in ODD Bay - When Selecting, The Hard Drive is sent in Optical Bay Caddy that will need Bezel Replaced from Optical Drive (When in use Optical Drive Must be Removed)
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- No Back Up Software
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- None Standard--
- Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Basic Black Business Case - Included
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support

if you are really planning to spend 6k to 8k dont blow it on asus msi or alienware , sager has better build and best cooling plus sager is upgradable besides others use gtx 460m which will not be enuf a year later but with 470m sli or a single gtx 485m you can game 2yrs+ more

This post has been edited by Riddhy: Jan 25 2011, 09:46 PM

yeah, and 2 yrs later we re probably looking at DX13 already...

anyway, agree that Sager is one of the best, if not the best, when comes to quality, but Dell will smoke it in terms of warranty service as well...

my own choice would be Asus G53Sw... GTX 460M is good enuf for Full HD gaming for the next 1.5yr at least, and it's 15" which makes it smaller, while having 2 HDD bays for u to config...

MSI is good..

been using the GX660r since september/august till now no problem at all

anyway, regarding service centre, there's a few..one of it is MediaForte at LYP. Anyway, MSI Malaysia had also join this forum and we got support frm them, any issue regarding MSI products especially the laptop, can pm them. their lyn nick is, MSI-MY.

omg every brand has their own pros i still cant decide. sigh looks like i just have to make a decision and stick with it.
this one looks good.. i dont understand the hard drive spec. one hdd in with an empty space for one more?

and im going to australia for 4 years and only will be coming back once a year,what if i want anything replaced? would it be a problem?

that means u'll need to ship the laptop back...

my friend has a Sager NP8690, 720QM + GTX 285M... similar case as u... bought the laptop in Singapore, and then fly to Aus to study... the finger print reader went hay wire a few mths back, and called Mucro Asia (the importer) wat needs to be done... the reply: get the laptop back to them in Singapore so that they can replace it... he would be laptop-less for 3 weeks if he does that, and he would need to bear the shipping fees...

end up he dumped it to his brother when he's back in Singapore and got himself a Asus G73Jh instead...

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Added on January 26, 2011, 12:54 amanyway, if warranty is wat u re concerned abt, stick to Asus... they ve 2yrs int'l warranty by default, with the option of extending to 3yrs...

This post has been edited by astria: Jan 26 2011, 12:54 AM

depends on you bro sager also has service center in aus i am sure

for the spec you chose it has dual hdd bays plus you can add another hdd if you remove the optical drive i choose 320gb because hdd is cheap and always gets cheaper every month you can add a 750 gb hdd as well just add rm 100~150 more

Yes Sager has service centers in Australia. I am based in Australia as well and *had* a Sager (that I sold for a better one). Bought mine from the USA though, but I asked around in Australia (resellers), and they told me that it's possible to send them the laptop if needed, even if I did not buy the laptop from them.

This post has been edited by This is a Lamp: Jan 26 2011, 08:29 AM

so how would i go about getting a sager? i've only got about 14 days left here

14 days I don't think that's enough time if you're ordering from the States. Takes about half a week to assemble the parts, and probably another week to get to MY. Considering the insane amount of orders for all 3 new models of Sagers, the stock gets depleted and orders are delayed.

If you order from Mucro Asia (SG Sager reseller) quick enough, you might be able to get it in time, though.

I think most Sager resellers have a "Rush order" options but you have to pay more though.

This post has been edited by This is a Lamp: Jan 26 2011, 02:17 PM

Hows the battery life on your sager when not gaming? i think i've finally decided on the sager. hopefully i can get it fast enough.

is the IC diamond thermal compund advisable?

This post has been edited by LappieToppie16: Jan 26 2011, 03:21 PM