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TSmerchant9
post Jan 24 2011, 03:04 PM, updated 15y ago

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Our baby was feeding on breast milk and formula (Enfalac A+ with Triple ProGuard) for 2x 850g cans. Then we noticed that his stomach always got a lot of wind. We will hear sound from his tummy and he will force the wind out by making his face red. All this usually happen at night and then he will cry, etc.

Additionally, during confinement, the lady tried to pull out the 'thing' at the belly button. We stopped her but one day showering, she claimed that it came off. We believed she pulled out and am wondering if that is the reason to my son stomach so much wind.

We changed from Enfalac A+ to S26 Gold. The wind problem persisted but was less. On Enfalac A+, he has to eat every 3 hours. With S26, he only eats every 4.5 hours. To us who are babysitting him, it's a good thing because we can get more sleep.

Last week, we tried Enfalac Prosobee (soya milk) to see if it helps with wind reduction but it did not. So Meadjohnson Enfalac is no longer an option for our baby.

Then, I bought a can of 400g Isomil (soya milk too) but have not open. This is based on a relative recommendation that Isomil is one of the best soya milk around. Baby is with S26 Gold still. Some has adviced me to go for Lactose Free milk before going to soya milk again because soya milk has low nutrients. Not good enough for baby in terms of development.

We do not want to touch Enfalac anymore. Any brands of LF milk to recommend? Does S26 has LF? Is the wind caused by the babysitter pulling off that skin on the belly button?

Additional info: Apparently, my cousin who owns a pharmacy told me S26's company Wyeth has been bought over by other company that's why they've been quiet in the market lately. But we believe their recipe is still same / improved over the years from our time (80s baby). My husband and I had S26 when we were little.

What should we do? We already tried heated daun sireh wrapped around tummy for him to pass gas, we tried bo ying compound, we use lu-yi oil on tummy and sole of feet, we have not tried "fei chai sui." Baby is now 2 months old and I just got back at work for the first day.

Appreciate any advice.
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QUOTE(merchant9 @ Jan 24 2011, 03:04 PM)
Our baby was feeding on breast milk and formula (Enfalac A+ with Triple ProGuard) for 2x 850g cans. Then we noticed that his stomach always got a lot of wind. We will hear sound from his tummy and he will force the wind out by making his face red. All this usually happen at night and then he will cry, etc.

Additionally, during confinement, the lady tried to pull out the 'thing' at the belly button. We stopped her but one day showering, she claimed that it came off. We believed she pulled out and am wondering if that is the reason to my son stomach so much wind.

We changed from Enfalac A+ to S26 Gold. The wind problem persisted but was less. On Enfalac A+, he has to eat every 3 hours. With S26, he only eats every 4.5 hours. To us who are babysitting him, it's a good thing because we can get more sleep.

Last week, we tried Enfalac Prosobee (soya milk) to see if it helps with wind reduction but it did not. So Meadjohnson Enfalac is no longer an option for our baby.

Then, I bought a can of 400g Isomil (soya milk too) but have not open. This is based on a relative recommendation that Isomil is one of the best soya milk around. Baby is with S26 Gold still. Some has adviced me to go for Lactose Free milk before going to soya milk again because soya milk has low nutrients. Not good enough for baby in terms of development.

We do not want to touch Enfalac anymore. Any brands of LF milk to recommend? Does S26 has LF? Is the wind caused by the babysitter pulling off that skin on the belly button?

Additional info: Apparently, my cousin who owns a pharmacy told me S26's company Wyeth has been bought over by other company that's why they've been quiet in the market lately. But we believe their recipe is still same / improved over the years from our time (80s baby). My husband and I had S26 when we were little.

What should we do? We already tried heated daun sireh wrapped around tummy for him to pass gas, we tried bo ying compound, we use lu-yi oil on tummy and sole of feet, we have not tried "fei chai sui." Baby is now 2 months old and I just got back at work for the first day.

Appreciate any advice.
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Hi,
My baby is 1month and 7days old, she is on Morinaga milk powder. You may want to try but i cannot suggest that your baby is suitable for this milk(it's definitely cheaper than Enfalac)

My baby has wind and she will fart most of the time. Sometimes she will spit out quite a lot of milk from her mouth (that's when her milk consumption increased) and there were times her milk came out from her nose. I asked around and most people said that could be either the milk or wind or we did not burp her.

We burped her halfway feeding and after she finished the whole bottle and yet she will spits out and sometimes with phlegm, and the elderly said it's good to spit out so that the phlegm come out together and she will feel better. My friend suggested me to try rubbing ointment on her sole (heat your palm with the ointment and then rub his sole thoroughly and quickly put on his socks) before and after feeding and i find this useful cos after that she will fart out but sometimes it still doesnt work out tongue.gif

You may want to try to put the ointment (heat your palm first) on his back, chest, on his head (front part, it's okay if you apply more), tummy, and sole. Yes, i do it all and if possible everytime i change her diaper. Do you still wrap his tummy? I am not sure if it got to do with the confinement lady pulled out his remaining umbilical cord but you can try to put the ointment on his naval/belly button before and after bath (put before bathe so that the wind wont go in) and the Bo Ying compound to rub on his lip (let him lick) or feed him (place the boh ying compound on your finger and let him suck) each time before you give him bath.

And please do not use the fei chai sui / gripewater cos it has been banned since 1982 (read more http://www.parenting-journals.com/113/the-...f-gripe-water/)
Although it does not contain alcohol now but it still contain dillseed (my mother in law bought it and i read the ingredient and ask her to throw it away). I'd rather spend more time rubbing ointment on my baby's body.

Another thing i would like to share is that make sure the milk is warm enough and not too cold and when feeding, please hold the bottle higher (i bet you know about this) so that the teat is fully covered with milk so that he wont be gulping wind.

I heard sucking pacifier will results in wind too but my baby will want the pacifier whenever she wants to sleep, cant help it.

I am still learning cos i am a first time mother..please feel free to share your opinion too.

This post has been edited by kongchristine: Jan 24 2011, 08:11 PM
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post Feb 1 2011, 02:12 PM

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did u consult paed?

i'd do that the first thing, maybe get some recommendation there

This post has been edited by qarezma: Feb 1 2011, 02:13 PM
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post Feb 2 2011, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(merchant9 @ Jan 24 2011, 03:04 PM)
Our baby was feeding on breast milk and formula (Enfalac A+ with Triple ProGuard) for 2x 850g cans. Then we noticed that his stomach always got a lot of wind. We will hear sound from his tummy and he will force the wind out by making his face red. All this usually happen at night and then he will cry, etc.

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Did you burp him properly after feeding?
Dont shake the milk bottle, stir with a teaspoon.
Use boiled water some bb cannot tahan filtered water
A good design bottle like mum or avent with anti colic will help.
Personally I dun think accidently pulling the cord out will caused bb to get colic.
Most baby starts colic season around 3 - 6 months, my bb oso the same, but not really bad

And the last thing is I duno if this is a proven thing, my CF lady told us to put bb on this thing
"Probiotix Biolife Reuteri drops" on the 2nd week, she swears this thing works to reduce bb colic in later stage. Its quite difficult to find and cost around RM110/small bottle. I found mine from a pharmacy at pudu plaza. Luckily you only need to give 1 bottle to baby.

If you want picture of the probiotix pm me

hope this help your problem, if too much headache then you should just go see your paed

This post has been edited by moorish: Feb 2 2011, 10:36 AM
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post Feb 5 2011, 03:02 PM

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hi merchant9,

is your baby still taking s26? when she change the milk powder is there any changes to her? like poo poo alot? or don't drink?

my baby is 1 month old now. I'm feeding her anmum infacare.. her poo poo v hard coz I just feed her formula now..

she also cry at nite after drinking n always like not enuf but once I add half oz she can't finish. so she awake v often for milk..

u mean ur baby drink s26 the feeding time longer? is your baby still got lots of wind?

hope to hear from u soon :-)

thanks:-)




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post Feb 5 2011, 05:36 PM

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my bb on S26 gold and regular whichever I can find, last week b4 cny both oso out of stock so bought enfagrow.

I dun notice difference on stool. however I do notice S26 very difficult to melt, need to use spoon to kacau, but enfa is much easier to melt.
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hi moorish,

is it okie to change milk powder often? is your baby feeding time got longer?
how's the wind?

u mean there are 2 type? s26 gold n regular? I'm a first time mum so I'm still v new. thanks for all the advise.

do u use filter water or boil water?

just now I tried s26 gold and my bb sleep after feeding till now almost 3 and half hours d.

my bb is one month old. so shud I increase to 3.5 oz wit 2 spoon of s26? coz b4 tis her feeding is 3 oz drinking anmum infacare.

thanks:-)
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QUOTE(andreafayming @ Feb 5 2011, 06:18 PM)
hi moorish,

is it okie to change milk powder often? is your baby feeding time got longer?
how's the wind?

u mean there are 2 type? s26 gold n regular? I'm a first time mum so I'm still v new. thanks for all the advise.

do u use filter water or boil water?

just now I tried s26 gold and my bb sleep after feeding till now almost 3 and half hours d.

my bb is one month old. so shud I increase to 3.5 oz wit 2 spoon of s26?  coz b4 tis her feeding is 3 oz drinking anmum infacare.

thanks:-)
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My bb was bf till 15 mths, all these while we tried very hard to mix formula into her diet, she would reject milk, in the process she had tried snow, anmum, nestle, enfa, S26, dumex, sustagen vanilla and choco, pediasure chocolate, we would keep rotating to pacify her to drink. When she get used to a brand/flavour she would reject and we need to change the brand. Theres one time we rotate till feeding her with dutchlady chocolate milk those for adult.

So far she show no sign of poo changes or wind, feeding time has been a problem with whichever brand, I would hv to rotate feeding with bottle, swap with spoon, inject using shringes, bottle with straw, milk kept in fridge (she likes cold things).

I've been using boil water but if hubby makes milk he would insist on using filtered water.

How old is your baby? if she has started solid then milk is just a supplement, I would give her 2 times daily each time around 180ml.
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post Feb 6 2011, 08:54 AM

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I tried Enfagrow A+... never bother to try till yesterday... Wow... why so sweet punya...
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auhckw,

u mean u tried drinking the milk?

hi moorish

my bb just 1 month old.. but I realize she prefer s26. sleep better at nite.. but she still awake every three hours. but ytd when she tried s26 for first time she sleep straight four hours. haha

but later on every 3 hours. not much wind.. is s26 very heaty? my mil ask me giv my bb drink more water.

normally when her feeding time will get lesser?
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QUOTE(andreafayming @ Feb 6 2011, 02:45 PM)
auhckw,

u mean u tried drinking the milk?

hi moorish

my bb just 1 month old.. but I realize she prefer s26. sleep better at nite.. but she still awake every three hours. but ytd when she tried s26 for first time she sleep straight four hours. haha

but later on every 3 hours. not much wind.. is s26 very heaty? my mil ask me giv my bb drink more water.

normally when her feeding time will get lesser?
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Ya, I took a spoon and tasted it. My friend was telling me over CNY that some shops may sell fake milk powder. So better you try one sip every time you open a new pack. I don't think there is any harm to us...

Whether the milk heaty or not, one of the method to see is whether he/she pass hard poop.
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QUOTE(andreafayming @ Feb 6 2011, 02:45 PM)
auhckw,

u mean u tried drinking the milk?

hi moorish

my bb just 1 month old.. but I realize she prefer s26. sleep better at nite.. but she still awake every three hours. but ytd when she tried s26 for first time she sleep straight four hours. haha

but later on every 3 hours. not much wind.. is s26 very heaty? my mil ask me giv my bb drink more water.

normally when her feeding time will get lesser?
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oh just 1 month old, then go with your instinct, I personally dun feel the need to force feed, if bb is hungry she will cry like alarm, some bb can sleep thru the nite, lucky parents no need to go thru torture.

about heaty, I cant tell which brand is heatier, seems like the same oni, maybe I dun feed a lot thats why I cant tell the differences.

QUOTE(auhckw @ Feb 6 2011, 02:49 PM)
Ya, I took a spoon and tasted it. My friend was telling me over CNY that some shops may sell fake milk powder. So better you try one sip every time you open a new pack. I don't think there is any harm to us...

Whether the milk heaty or not, one of the method to see is whether he/she pass hard poop.
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I sometimes wonder why chinese medicine shop sell formula so much cheaper than jusco, I once bought enfa, but notice the milk like cannot dilute, so become a bit suspicious and throw away the rest and now only buy from jusco.
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Speaking of tasting baby's food, 2 months ago my wife manually squeezed an orange and put the juice into a cup. And feed baby. He was drinking it like normal.

When he cannot finish, I decided to finish it up. Mana tau... So freaking bitter that I cannot even drink. Baby already drank 3/4 of it. I think when my wife squeezed out the juice, the skin juice also come out.

A lesson learned then, taste baby's food first before giving them cause they don't know what is right or not...
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post Feb 17 2011, 11:45 AM

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Wow, long time didnt check back, didnt know I had so many response. THank you! smile.gif


Our baby is currently on Isomil Soya Lactose Free. It cost us about RM60.90 from 99 Speedmart. It helps a lot and baby stomach has less wind, thus longer sleep.

My baby was born at 3.9kg and coming to 3 months already weigh 8kg and drinking 7 oz! I am not sure if it is a lot compared to you guys. Hope to get some feedback. Cross check with paediatric, he said it is ok. Weight will grow less when we start feeding him with porridge at 6 months old.

We do burp him every time after we feed him. We rarely see him throwing up milk because he's already burped. We put Lu Yi Oil on his tummy and sole of his feet after rubbing the oil on our palm to heat it. We also feed him bo ying compound during the night so he sleeps better. It really helps. We bought 2 bottles of fei chai sui but end up not using it.

He is sensitive to sleeping in air conditioned environment as this will give him nose block. Some times, he breathe heavily / snore / snort during his sleep due to nose block but when he sneeze out his snort, everything gets better.



QUOTE(kongchristine @ Jan 24 2011, 08:09 PM)
Hi,
My baby is 1month and 7days old, she is on Morinaga milk powder.  You may want to try but i cannot suggest that your baby is suitable for this milk(it's definitely cheaper than Enfalac)

My baby has wind and she will fart most of the time.  Sometimes she will spit out quite a lot of milk from her mouth (that's when her milk consumption increased) and there were times her milk came out from her nose.  I asked around and most people said that could be either the milk or wind or we did not burp her.

We burped her halfway feeding and after she finished the whole bottle and yet she will spits out and sometimes with phlegm, and the elderly said it's good to spit out so that the phlegm come out together and she will feel better.  My friend suggested me to try rubbing ointment on her sole (heat your palm with the ointment and then rub his sole thoroughly and quickly put on his socks) before and after feeding and i find this useful cos after that she will fart out but sometimes it still doesnt work out  tongue.gif

You may want to try to put the ointment (heat your palm first) on his back, chest, on his head (front part, it's okay if you apply more), tummy, and sole.  Yes, i do it all and if possible everytime i change her diaper.  Do you still wrap his tummy?  I am not sure if it got to do with the confinement lady pulled out his remaining umbilical cord but you can try to put the ointment on his naval/belly button before and after bath (put before bathe so that the wind wont go in) and the Bo Ying compound to rub on his lip (let him lick) or feed him (place the boh ying compound on your finger and let him suck) each time before you give him bath.

And please do not use the fei chai sui / gripewater cos it has been banned since 1982 (read more http://www.parenting-journals.com/113/the-...f-gripe-water/)
Although it does not contain alcohol  now but it still contain dillseed (my mother in law bought it and i read the ingredient and ask her to throw it away).  I'd rather spend more time rubbing ointment on my baby's body.

Another thing i would like to share is that make sure the milk is warm enough and not too cold and when feeding, please hold the bottle higher (i bet you know about this) so that the teat is fully covered with milk so that he wont be gulping wind.

I heard sucking pacifier will results in wind too but my baby will want the pacifier whenever she wants to sleep, cant help it.

I am still learning cos i am a first time mother..please feel free to share your opinion too.
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Thanks for sharing all these useful information. My reply is as above. smile.gif

QUOTE(qarezma @ Feb 1 2011, 02:12 PM)
did u consult paed?

i'd do that the first thing, maybe get some recommendation there
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Yea we did but our paed said it was normal and just let it be. But we couldnt stay with Enfalac so we changed to S26 which was better but also not good enough, then finally Isomil Soya Lactose Free and then our baby get very good sleep, into 4 - 5 hours.

QUOTE(moorish @ Feb 2 2011, 10:33 AM)
Did you burp him properly after feeding?
Dont shake the milk bottle, stir with a teaspoon.
Use boiled water some bb cannot tahan filtered water
A good design bottle like mum or avent with anti colic will help.
Personally I dun think accidently pulling the cord out will caused bb to get colic.
Most baby starts colic season around 3 - 6 months, my bb oso the same, but not really bad

And the last thing is I duno if this is a proven thing, my CF lady told us to put bb on this thing
"Probiotix Biolife Reuteri drops" on the 2nd week, she swears this thing works to reduce bb colic in later stage. Its quite difficult to find and cost around RM110/small bottle. I found mine from a pharmacy at pudu plaza. Luckily you only need to give 1 bottle to baby.

If you want picture of the probiotix pm me

hope this help your problem, if too much headache then you should just go see your paed
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Yes we burp him always. We usually shake the bottle by holding our fingers on the tip so the air dont go in. Will try to use a spoon from now on. Yes, we use boiled water. Purposely buy a hot water boiler / dispenser in our room. The Avent bottle didnt work out too well for us because the tip is too small or too big or too hard. We bought Pigeon and a softer tip (is it called pacifier where the milk exit from the bottle?)

QUOTE(andreafayming @ Feb 5 2011, 03:02 PM)
hi merchant9,

is your baby still taking s26? when she change the milk powder is there any changes to her? like poo poo alot? or don't drink?

my baby is 1 month old now. I'm feeding her anmum infacare.. her poo poo v hard coz I just feed her formula now..

she also cry at nite after drinking n always like not enuf but once I add half oz she can't finish. so she awake v often for milk..

u mean ur baby drink s26 the feeding time longer? is your baby still got lots of wind?

hope to hear from u soon :-)

thanks:-)
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Nope, our baby stopped with S26 for now. Until we get rid of the wind in the tummy. SOMETIMES he has S26 during the day (maybe just 1 meal) and then Isomil all the way. Better your baby cannot finish than to wake up crying every day. S26 has more substance hence last longer than Enfalac, also more heaty.

QUOTE(moorish @ Feb 5 2011, 05:36 PM)
my bb on S26 gold and regular whichever I can find, last week b4 cny both oso out of stock so bought enfagrow.

I dun notice difference on stool. however I do notice S26 very difficult to melt, need to use spoon to kacau, but enfa is much easier to melt.
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I'm not sure about Enfagrow but S26 gold is known to be more heaty than most of other brands. It is also the oldest brand available in the market (from my time and now my baby is eating it)... Even elder know it to be good but heaty.

QUOTE(andreafayming @ Feb 5 2011, 06:18 PM)
hi moorish,

is it okie to change milk powder often? is your baby feeding time got longer?
how's the wind?

u mean there are 2 type? s26 gold n regular? I'm a first time mum so I'm still v new. thanks for all the advise.

do u use filter water or boil water?

just now I tried s26 gold and my bb sleep after feeding till now almost 3 and half hours d.

my bb is one month old. so shud I increase to 3.5 oz wit 2 spoon of s26?  coz b4 tis her feeding is 3 oz drinking anmum infacare.

thanks:-)
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Try not to change frequently, afraid may upset baby stomach. If you find one that is suitable, stick with it.
Feeding 7oz of Isomil result in 4 - 4.5 hours of sleep. If you feed less, he gets hungry more frequently. Hence, get up more often.
I am also a first time mom and I use boiled water. Purposely buy hot water dispenser in the room to make sure we have hot water every time.
I think it is 2 scoop = 4 oz water. Always a double!

QUOTE(moorish @ Feb 5 2011, 10:48 PM)
My bb was bf till 15 mths, all these while we tried very hard to mix formula into her diet, she would reject milk, in the process she had tried snow, anmum, nestle, enfa, S26, dumex, sustagen vanilla and choco, pediasure chocolate, we would keep rotating to pacify her to drink. When she get used to a brand/flavour she would reject and we need to change the brand. Theres one time we rotate till feeding her with dutchlady chocolate milk those for adult.

So far she show no sign of poo changes or wind, feeding time has been a problem with whichever brand, I would hv to rotate feeding with bottle, swap with spoon, inject using shringes, bottle with straw, milk kept in fridge (she likes cold things).

I've been using boil water but if hubby makes milk he would insist on using filtered water.

How old is your baby? if she has started solid then milk is just a supplement, I would give her 2 times daily each time around 180ml.
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Unfortunately, we stopped bf at 2.5 months old. I dont think I can produce anymore since I've stopped about 2 weeks. Baby dont live with us so we only see him every 2 - 3 days. She reject at 15 months old, why dont you supplement with porridge?


QUOTE(andreafayming @ Feb 6 2011, 02:45 PM)
auhckw,

u mean u tried drinking the milk?

hi moorish

my bb just 1 month old.. but I realize she prefer s26. sleep better at nite.. but she still awake every three hours. but ytd when she tried s26 for first time she sleep straight four hours. haha

but later on every 3 hours. not much wind.. is s26 very heaty? my mil ask me giv my bb drink more water.

normally when her feeding time will get lesser?
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Yes, you should feed baby with more water if you're feeding S26.


QUOTE(auhckw @ Feb 6 2011, 06:13 PM)
Speaking of tasting baby's food, 2 months ago my wife manually squeezed an orange and put the juice into a cup. And feed baby. He was drinking it like normal.

When he cannot finish, I decided to finish it up. Mana tau... So freaking bitter that I cannot even drink. Baby already drank 3/4 of it. I think when my wife squeezed out the juice, the skin juice also come out.

A lesson learned then, taste baby's food first before giving them cause they don't know what is right or not...
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Baby is not exposed to so many different taste so they dont know bitter taste bad. It is ok to introduce them to good food early, even bitter so long it's good for them. For example, a relative feed their daughter with avocado + salmon porridge. Avocado dont taste good but she love it! smile.gif
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at 1 mth old, bm is the best for ur child.
but i guess tat's ur choice

no need to always change powder, if ur child has no issues, then dun change

las time my baby drink s26 gold, then progress on to the nex 1(forgot the name) but end up very difficult to poo.
so we HAD to change.

ya, dun shake the milk bottle, shtir with wooden chopsticks...cos older folks always say if taking vitamins,dun use metal spoon cos will react with the nutrients.

beside ru yi you, there's another chinese herbal pills which u can soak in sesame oil(yes, sesame oil) to rub on the stomach to relieve the wind.
the herbal pills can be bought from chinese medical shop...need to ask my grandma...

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hey

anyone tried probiotic? from bio life? is it work? if baby vomit out the probiotic, shud I feed her again?
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QUOTE(andreafayming @ Feb 24 2011, 08:28 PM)
hey

anyone tried probiotic? from bio life? is it work? if baby vomit out the probiotic, shud I feed her again?
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Not from Biolife. I tried GG-Lacto. According to the manual, it does not matter if you overdose as these are good bacteria that helps with the digestion.


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QUOTE(ijnek @ Feb 17 2011, 12:06 PM)
at 1 mth old, bm is the best for ur child.
but i guess tat's ur choice

no need to always change powder, if ur child has no issues, then dun change

las time my baby drink s26 gold, then progress on to the nex 1(forgot the name) but end up very difficult to poo.
so we HAD to change.

ya, dun shake the milk bottle, shtir with wooden chopsticks...cos older folks always say if taking vitamins,dun use metal spoon cos will react with the nutrients.

beside ru yi you, there's another chinese herbal pills which u can soak in sesame oil(yes, sesame oil) to rub on the stomach to relieve the wind.
the herbal pills can be bought from chinese medical shop...need to ask my grandma...
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Yea, strongly agree that BM (breast milk) is the best for baby but like my case, I went to c-sec so I have little milk. I only BF my son until 2month + and went back to work. The milk supply got lesser and lesser till none.
What is the name of the herbal pill?


QUOTE(andreafayming @ Feb 24 2011, 08:28 PM)
hey

anyone tried probiotic? from bio life? is it work? if baby vomit out the probiotic, shud I feed her again?
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Does anyone know the different between ENFA and NAN ?
i am comparing Enfapro with Nan Pro, I am keyless by looking at the ingredients that printed at the boxes, but from what i understand (Frm ads and nurse)
Enfa might be aiming more on the brain development and Nan are aiming more on anti-allergies and immune system, As I know, beside breast milk, there are no formula milk that can provide baby a immune system. Correct me if my understanding is wrong.
should i consider changing the formula? as i wish my baby to get more immune system.... i don't really care how smart my baby are in the future. Healthy is the most important.
Wish to get some idea from here. Thanks
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Folks. Need some feedback on the milk powder. Been using Enfalac A+ for some while. Heard from friends that it causes baby to be a bit hyper and it s pretty sweet too. Was wondering anyone have the same feeling. I find my baby to be quite active. Mou si teng..


Added on March 18, 2011, 10:48 amFolks. Need some feedback on the milk powder. Been using Enfalac A+ for some while. Heard from friends that it causes baby to be a bit hyper and it s pretty sweet too. Was wondering anyone have the same feeling. I find my baby to be quite active. Mou si teng..

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QUOTE(beyond @ Mar 18 2011, 10:34 AM)
Folks. Need some feedback on the milk powder. Been using Enfalac A+ for some while. Heard from friends that it causes baby to be a bit hyper and it s pretty sweet too. Was wondering anyone have the same feeling. I find my baby to be quite active. Mou si teng..


Added on March 18, 2011, 10:48 amFolks. Need some feedback on the milk powder. Been using Enfalac A+ for some while. Heard from friends that it causes baby to be a bit hyper and it s pretty sweet too. Was wondering anyone have the same feeling. I find my baby to be quite active. Mou si teng..
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I was told the same thing oso, but mine was all dairy milk will make children hyper they say add a lot of sugar or chemical I duno, so many ppl ask me to switch to soybase they say children more slumber.

But I din switch, I try to give less milk.
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Thanks Moorish smile.gif
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Hi,

Can anyone recommend me a good milk powder brand?

My baby going to be 6months in 2 weeks and he is on NAN at present. But he doesn't like it anymore. So I need to switch the FM ASAP.

BTW he doesn't like FM anyway cos he's used to my BM, but I have no choice but to give him FM during day time when he's at the babysitter. I cannot give my EBM milk also cos he don't like. I already tried Lactogen, Dutch Lady, Dumex, and NAN...

Therefore, please recommend some milk powder, which atleast got a little bit taste like BM? (I know that none of the FM can replace the taste and nutrients of BM) but atleast if it tastes little bit like BM I can convice my baby to drink I guess...

BTW my baby is a very fussy little boy cos he only loves mommy's milk (Fresh some more) doh.gif

Thanks
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good that your baby loves mommy's fresh milk tongue.gif

my colleague said that she gave snow after she stopped bf (after fully bf for 6 months) as she said it sort of like BM (i'm not sure coz i did try giving to my son about 3 months back..but he doesn't like it abit. Now he's on Dutch Lady 123).

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QUOTE(phythia79 @ Jun 27 2011, 04:31 PM)
good that your baby loves mommy's fresh milk tongue.gif

my colleague said that she gave snow after she stopped bf (after fully bf for 6 months) as she said it sort of like BM (i'm not sure coz i did try giving to my son about 3 months back..but he doesn't like it abit.  Now he's on Dutch Lady 123).
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Yeah good that my baby loves my BM but unfortunately I'm not at home since I work full time. By the time I go hom it's past 7pm already... cry.gif

I've seen that brand Snow in the shops.. but I thought there was an issue with that milk powder sometime back? Was it banned or something like that? Not sure
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I tried Enfagrow A+... never bother to try till yesterday... Wow... why so sweet punya...
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hi, my BB is on Similac till she's 1 year. Similac is tasteless, and its not sweet, which i think is good for BB below 1 year smile.gif
my girl is now 21months and she's on Gain Plus. She's 12kg now & she never get fever before (TOUCH WOOD!!)


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QUOTE(Mommy_2011 @ Jun 27 2011, 04:19 PM)
Hi,

Can anyone recommend me a good milk powder brand?

My baby going to be 6months in 2 weeks and he is on NAN at present. But he doesn't like it anymore. So I need to switch the FM ASAP.

BTW he doesn't like FM anyway cos he's used to my BM, but I have no choice but to give him FM during day time when he's at the babysitter. I cannot give my EBM milk also cos he don't like. I already tried Lactogen, Dutch Lady, Dumex, and NAN...

Therefore, please recommend some milk powder, which atleast got a little bit taste like BM? (I know that none of the FM can replace the taste and nutrients of BM) but atleast if it tastes little bit like BM I can convice my baby to drink I guess...

BTW my baby is a very fussy little boy cos he only loves mommy's milk (Fresh some more) doh.gif

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hi, BM is not much taste, I am not sure about yours....hehe
I fed my girl BM for the 1st 4 months and then i give her Similac till she's 1 year, she is fine with it smile.gif
FYI, Similac is tasteless & not sweet smile.gif


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QUOTE(moonstar @ Jun 28 2011, 02:10 PM)
hi, my BB is on Similac till she's 1 year. Similac is tasteless, and its not sweet, which i think is good for BB below 1 year smile.gif
my girl is now 21months and she's on Gain Plus. She's 12kg now & she never get fever before (TOUCH WOOD!!)


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hi, BM is not much taste, I am not sure about yours....hehe
I fed my girl BM for the 1st 4 months and then i give her Similac till she's 1 year, she is fine with it smile.gif
FYI, Similac is tasteless & not sweet smile.gif
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Hi,

Thanks a lot... I wanted to give my baby similac, but not sure if it's too heaty? cos my baby doesn't like to drink water also. I try to give him water with a little bit of Glucolin cos sweet, but he don't like that also rclxub.gif
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Hi,

Thanks a lot... I wanted to give my baby similac, but not sure if it's too heaty? cos my baby doesn't like to drink water also. I try to give him water with a little bit of Glucolin cos sweet, but he don't like that also rclxub.gif
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You can buy a small tin to test 1st if you r worried that your BB will get heaty. So far my girl is ok with Similac.

You can try feeding water with spoon if your BB really refuse to drink water.
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Some comments and personal experience with Similac.

According to a relative, a friend discovered that Similac is one of the most nutritious milk powder in the market. Even better than the popular Enfalac.

We tried feeding our son with it but then the poop came out hard and he cry whenever doing his business. On top of that, the poop is dark green. No blood, doctor checked. Just that it didnt work out for my kid.

My nephews, 3 of them took Similac just fine though. So what work for others may not work for you.
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QUOTE(moonstar @ Jun 29 2011, 09:52 AM)
Hi,

You can buy a small tin to test 1st if you r worried that your BB will get heaty. So far my girl is ok with Similac.

You can try feeding water with spoon if your BB really refuse to drink water.
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Hmmm... let me try... BTW when you started giving similac, did u do the change over process slowly (Taking 4 - 5days) or just changed immediately?
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Hmmm... let me try... BTW when you started giving similac, did u do the change over process slowly (Taking 4 - 5days) or just changed immediately?
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hi,

During confinement I BF my girl. In day time I direct BF, night time my confinement lady will bottle feed BM. So i think becuz of this my BB was get used to bottle feed too, so that she have no prob when I have to start work after 2 months confinement.

My BB start Similac after she's 3 months old when I send her to babysiter due to I have to work. But I still pump out BM and store. Which means my girl is on bottle feed BM and Similac. After she's 4 month+ she's on fully Similac due to I hv no more BM sad.gif

Since you still have BM now, u can actually bottle feed BM and Similac.... slowly let your BB get used to FM.
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It's ideal to slowly mix both and change but her baby don't like EBM..so difficult to mix...scared she will sure reject the FM as well.

However, it's always worth trying.
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QUOTE(phythia79 @ Jun 29 2011, 12:31 PM)
It's ideal to slowly mix both and change but her baby don't like EBM..so difficult to mix...scared she will sure reject the FM as well.

However, it's always worth trying.
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ya we have to try...i belive when the BB is hungry, they will sure wanto drink....haha
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ya we have to try...i belive when the BB is hungry, they will sure wanto drink....haha
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Thanks for the advice. Like Phythia said, my baby doesn't like EBM at all... No matter how hungry he is! Scared to mix and give cos afterwards he might reject the FM as well! doh.gif

So I decided to give the FM according to the normal stardard without mixing... If he likes it I will give it a try mixing EBM (Little bit) and FM.
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Thanks for the advice. Like Phythia said, my baby doesn't like EBM at all... No matter how hungry he is! Scared to mix and give cos afterwards he might reject the FM as well! doh.gif

So I decided to give the FM according to the normal stardard without mixing... If he likes it I will give it a try mixing EBM (Little bit) and FM.
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WAH your little one really picky smile.gif Hope he like the FM.... Good Luck wink.gif
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QUOTE(moonstar @ Jun 30 2011, 09:31 AM)
WAH your little one really picky smile.gif Hope he like the FM.... Good Luck wink.gif
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Yeah my little one very fussy boy... Fuss on everything! Fuss about bottle nipple lar, FM, Cereal brand etc etc rclxub.gif

But so well behaved when he's with the Babysitter. Fussy and naughty only wif Mummy and give trouble!

Anyways I will keep u mommies updated once I change the FM
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is enfamil, enfalac, enfagrow all the same thing?
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I am trying anmum essential step 1 for my newborn, any comments?
Is there a poll for best formula milk ?
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I am trying anmum essential step 1 for my newborn, any comments?
Is there a poll for best formula milk ?
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I never tried but I heard Anmum is quite heaty. Very difficult for the baby to poo, but every baby is different so u may try and see.

Anyways, u will have to try few FM brands for baby's likes and any allergic reactions before u can settle with 1 brand.

In terms of milk "Breast Milk" is the BEST and no FM can compare wif that. So if u can pls try to BF your baby...
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QUOTE(Mommy_2011 @ Aug 11 2011, 02:16 PM)
Hi,

I never tried but I heard Anmum is quite heaty. Very difficult for the baby to poo, but every baby is different so u may try and see.

Anyways, u will have to try few FM brands for baby's likes and any allergic reactions before u can settle with 1 brand.

In terms of milk "Breast Milk" is the BEST and no FM can compare wif that. So if u can pls try to BF your baby...
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Thanks for the advice. My wife is had been breast feeding since day 1 up to today is 2weeks+ already.
She say the baby seems to have not enuf of milk during the night, and that makes her tired as she is losing her sleep.
She tried the pump, but it only produces around 10ml after pump for 1 hour.

So she planned to try FM and see if our baby can be satisfied enough to not wake up every 1 hour during the night.
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stupidbump, ur baby is just 2 weeks old is it? if so then it's normal that ur baby waking up at nite... breast milk is easier to digest that y ur baby gets hungrier faster... 10ml for 1 hr is normal... i used to get 10ml for 2 hrs during the 1st mth... i dun wanna b a wet blanket but i've been thru it n so i'll say it... u should get more info abt bf n not intro fm yet to ur baby as nothing is better than breast milk... u can get info at kellymom.com... ur baby stomach is just a size of a pea... go to ur fridge n c how big is a pea... then u imagine if u force feed a pea to finish 1-2oz of fm just because u wanna sleep thru the nite... i dun mean to b harsh but in a good intention smile.gif can anyone remember the china milk scandal? how many babies died? wat if their mum bf their babies? i dun wanna think abt it... then how abt the milk powder that shows u that other milk powder contains sugar? imagine ur baby is drinking sugar n up to 14 tablespoon of sugar... would u put 14 tablespoon of sugar into ur drink? if u wanna bf there's no short cut... ur baby will learn to sleep thru the nite when s/he is ready... we all been thru it so u n ur wife is not alone smile.gif sorry if i have offended anyone... but i just can't get it... dun complain if u say price is increasing or no money... bf is FOC tongue.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(nicKit @ Aug 11 2011, 10:46 PM)
stupidbump, ur baby is just 2 weeks old is it? if so then it's normal that ur baby waking up at nite... breast milk is easier to digest that y ur baby gets hungrier faster... 10ml for 1 hr is normal... i used to get 10ml for 2 hrs during the 1st mth... i dun wanna b a wet blanket but i've been thru it n so i'll say it... u should get more info abt bf n not intro fm yet to ur baby as nothing is better than breast milk... u can get info at kellymom.com... ur baby stomach is just a size of a pea... go to ur fridge n c how big is a pea... then u imagine if u force feed a pea to finish 1-2oz of fm just because u wanna sleep thru the nite... i dun mean to b harsh but in a good intention smile.gif can anyone remember the china milk scandal? how many babies died? wat if their mum bf their babies? i dun wanna think abt it... then how abt the milk powder that shows u that other milk powder contains sugar? imagine ur baby is drinking sugar n up to 14 tablespoon of sugar... would u put 14 tablespoon of sugar into ur drink? if u wanna bf there's no short cut... ur baby will learn to sleep thru the nite when s/he is ready... we all been thru it so u n ur wife is not alone smile.gif sorry if i have offended anyone... but i just can't get it... dun complain if u say price is increasing or no money... bf is FOC tongue.gif notworthy.gif
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Thanks for your encouragement!! really appreciate it! will try to advise my wife on this aspect.

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Stupidbump...what Nickit said is true...she is the best person to give her views as she has gone thru all kinds of obstacles during bf. BF...the journey is a rough one but the rewards is extremely greater...in terms of health for both mommy and baby...and of coz your pocket. I hv saved sooooo much of money for the first year as my son refused any other milk. Only now I'm giving him powdered milk while I'm at work and bf when I'm around.

Once u have kids...in fact...u can say bye bye to sleep. First sleepless nights coz baby wakes up every hour for milk...then also worry...coz of SIDS...then when bigger...they may still wake up in the middle of the night due to night terror etc..

Being a mommy for 2 yrs now...I actually got used to it Liao. First month was the toughest as everyone (including mommy, baby and daddy) are adjusting to new routines.
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QUOTE(phythia79 @ Aug 11 2011, 11:58 PM)
Stupidbump...what Nickit said is true...she is the best person to give her views as she has gone thru all kinds of obstacles during bf. BF...the journey is a rough one but the rewards is extremely greater...in terms of health for both mommy and baby...and of coz your pocket. I hv saved sooooo much of money for the first year as my son refused any other milk. Only now I'm giving him powdered milk while  I'm at work and bf when I'm around.

Once u have kids...in fact...u can say bye bye to sleep. First sleepless nights coz baby wakes up every hour for milk...then also worry...coz of SIDS...then when bigger...they may still wake up in the middle of the night due to night terror etc..

Being a mommy for 2 yrs now...I actually got used to it Liao. First month was the toughest as everyone (including mommy, baby and daddy) are adjusting to new routines.
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Thanks for the encouragement yea phythia79.
Actually there is not much problem waking up in the middle of the night for both of us.
My wife starts to get frustrated at times, when after waking up and breastfeeding, the baby still continues crying his lungs out. tongue.gif
Anyway, these 2 days had been quite ok. The rascal woke up only thrice last night!
BTW, is it really common for the breastmilk supply to be low for the starting few weeks?
My wife had tried all sorts of remedies to increase the supply by pumping, massaging, placing hot towels etc, and it still seems low in supply.
We were also told that good mentality and determination helps alot. These, i can say done.

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you can go over to this forum on bf http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1617572/+1100

nickit and I..and other mommies are there to assist you.

And yes..for some women..the milk supply during this 2 weeks are little as supply has yet to be established. During this time, it's very important to bf as frequently as the baby wants so that this will tell your wife's body to produce more milk.

Remember that for bf...more demand..more supply.

go over to the other forum..and there has some remedies to boost supply.
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stupidbump... yes it's quite normal for mommies to have less milk during 1-2weeks after baby is born. Same situ wif me cos I had very little milk and my baby also used to be awake most of the time through the night. but don't worry, after 2motnhs or so, u r wife will have more milk and thus baby will tend to sleep longer during the night.

Believe me, my baby was lower than his birth weight when he was 2 weeks due to less intake of milk, but I never gave up. Luckily I have enuf milk to feed my baby now... Unfortunately I had to giv FM to my baby at 2 motnhs when I send him to Babysitter cos he refused to take EBM when I returned to work... sigh...

We're all there to support u & ur wife so don't worry... Don't introduce FM now itself cos baby might get used to FM and might not take BM anymore due to nipple confusion, and also the bottle nipple is easy to suck than mummy's one.

BTW one time my milk supply dropped, phythia adviced to take fenugreek tea, which I tried and it really worked for me... Maybe ur wife can try that?
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QUOTE(Mommy_2011 @ Aug 12 2011, 09:51 AM)
stupidbump... yes it's quite normal for mommies to have less milk during 1-2weeks after baby is born. Same situ wif me cos I had very little milk and my baby also used to be awake most of the time through the night. but don't worry, after 2motnhs or so, u r wife will have more milk and thus baby will tend to sleep longer during the night.

Believe me, my baby was lower than his birth weight when he was 2 weeks due to less intake of milk, but I never gave up. Luckily I have enuf milk to feed my baby now... Unfortunately I had to giv FM to my baby at 2 motnhs when I send him to Babysitter cos he refused to take EBM when I returned to work... sigh...

We're all there to support u & ur wife so don't worry... Don't introduce FM now itself cos baby might get used to FM and might not take BM anymore due to nipple confusion, and also the bottle nipple is easy to suck than mummy's one.

BTW one time my milk supply dropped, phythia adviced to take fenugreek tea, which I tried and it really worked for me... Maybe ur wife can try that?
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where can we find these fenugreek tea, mind to share?
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where can we find these fenugreek tea, mind to share?
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stupidbump...kindly go over to the other forum topic...coz..if not..this would be the next bf topic. nicKit has posted it on the first post on the fenugreek seeds tea..and other recipes for confinement.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1617572

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QUOTE(phythia79 @ Aug 12 2011, 12:54 PM)
stupidbump...kindly go over to the other forum topic...coz..if not..this would be the next bf topic.  nicKit has posted it on the first post on the fenugreek seeds tea..and other recipes for confinement.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1617572
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on my way there right away.... tongue.gif
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hi all need some advise my daughter i already 1yr3mths i been feeding her millk only 3 scoop but got feed solids too is it alright and 1 more thing will it cause brain damage if i feed her lesser than the instruction says i need to give her 5 scoop
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pigglet, this is the first time i hear it... how did u come to this conclusion? ur daughter should get all vital nutriens from her solid food ma... not milk... pls enlighten me...
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i also dont know someone just told me this so im abit clueless and also im a first time mum..not much experience tho,so yeah im confuse thats y i ask over for more advise =S

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Aiyo....less or more won't coz any brain damage lar...sigh...and btw...if u give more also won't give u better results.
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pigglet, i think the person that informed u has this tot... u know all milk advertisement always say their milk will do wat wat wat for brain developement... so less milk = brain damage... ur girl should get all those "essentials" for brain developement from her solids like salmon, cod liver oil, etc... those who knows more pls help me out laugh.gif let's say u dun drink milk coz u're allergic to it... then where u get calcium from? if u dun drink milk then ur body kenot get any calcium lo... then u should have sever esteoporosis now... if u dun then where did u get all the calcium? u get calcium from ur food~! vege like brocolli, fruits like kiwi... icon_rolleyes.gif

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It's always best to get the nutrients naturally from solids aka food...rather than it being added chemically.
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i give my daughter drink dugro since newborn until now shes 4 years old. still the same milk powder.. never change.
when she was 1 month old , she have colic can't sleep will every night. bring her to see doc and give her colic medicine.. even put the chinese ointment after her bath and also fei zai sui when she was about 3 month old. i also bought her anti colic bottle for her to drink her milk. it was work. no more colic happen anymore.
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oh my god... where did u hear such remarks? BRAIN DAMAGE??? From drinking lesser than what the packaging says?

Then i think breastfed babies are in trouble... including my daughter as i also make the formula thinner than stated... Hmmm .....
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QUOTE(sbux @ Aug 16 2011, 02:42 AM)
oh my god... where did u hear such remarks? BRAIN DAMAGE??? From drinking lesser than what the packaging says?

Then i think breastfed babies are in trouble... including my daughter as i also make the formula thinner than stated... Hmmm .....
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hehehe..same here...
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ohmy.gif phythia, let's grab our kids n send them to c a neurologist immediately tongue.gif

this is wat happens if information is passed out wrongly... dry.gif if give baby more milk powder than the label will the kid grow up become einstein? laugh.gif sorry sorry... can't help it...
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Preparing the formula milk thinner than recommended causes no harm to the baby. Sometimes, when you put in more milk powder, it becomes 'heaty' for the baby, especially if your baby is the type that dont like to drink plain water.
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hi all, any comment on Mamex Gold?
My daughter just start drinking Mamex Gold...

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QUOTE(merchant9 @ Jan 24 2011, 03:04 PM)
Our baby was feeding on breast milk and formula (Enfalac A+ with Triple ProGuard) for 2x 850g cans. Then we noticed that his stomach always got a lot of wind. We will hear sound from his tummy and he will force the wind out by making his face red. All this usually happen at night and then he will cry, etc.

Additionally, during confinement, the lady tried to pull out the 'thing' at the belly button. We stopped her but one day showering, she claimed that it came off. We believed she pulled out and am wondering if that is the reason to my son stomach so much wind.

We changed from Enfalac A+ to S26 Gold. The wind problem persisted but was less. On Enfalac A+, he has to eat every 3 hours. With S26, he only eats every 4.5 hours. To us who are babysitting him, it's a good thing because we can get more sleep.

Last week, we tried Enfalac Prosobee (soya milk) to see if it helps with wind reduction but it did not. So Meadjohnson Enfalac is no longer an option for our baby.

Then, I bought a can of 400g Isomil (soya milk too) but have not open. This is based on a relative recommendation that Isomil is one of the best soya milk around. Baby is with S26 Gold still. Some has adviced me to go for Lactose Free milk before going to soya milk again because soya milk has low nutrients. Not good enough for baby in terms of development.

We do not want to touch Enfalac anymore. Any brands of LF milk to recommend? Does S26 has LF? Is the wind caused by the babysitter pulling off that skin on the belly button?

Additional info: Apparently, my cousin who owns a pharmacy told me S26's company Wyeth has been bought over by other company that's why they've been quiet in the market lately. But we believe their recipe is still same / improved over the years from our time (80s baby). My husband and I had S26 when we were little.

What should we do? We already tried heated daun sireh wrapped around tummy for him to pass gas, we tried bo ying compound, we use lu-yi oil on tummy and sole of feet, we have not tried "fei chai sui." Baby is now 2 months old and I just got back at work for the first day.

Hi, my daughter had the same problem so I switched to Similac LF which was good and then when she turned 1, we changed to Pediasure. I also hear Frisolac Comfort is good for babies with colic, constipation or other digestive problems. Another milk you can try is Karihome which is goats milk. You can read about and compare the different milks at www.babydash.com.my


Appreciate any advice.
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Hi, my daughter had the same problem so I switched to Similac LF which was good and then when she turned 1, we changed to Pediasure. I also hear Frisolac Comfort is good for babies with colic, constipation or other digestive problems. Another milk you can try is Karihome which is goats milk. You can read about and compare the different milks at www.babydash.com.my
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Hi,anyone interested in buying S26 PROMIL GOLD (step) 1.6kg at cheap price?
CLEARANCE STOCK
I have balance of 5 can selling at RM92.00 (NP:RM130.00).

Please call 03-79576986 urgent...
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Hi,anyone interested in buying S26 PROMIL GOLD (step 2) 900gat cheap price?
CLEARANCE STOCK
I have balance of 2 can selling at RM55.00 per can (NP:RM70.00).

Please call/SMS 012-3771773 urgent...
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QUOTE(merchant9 @ Jan 24 2011, 03:04 PM)
Our baby was feeding on breast milk and formula (Enfalac A+ with Triple ProGuard) for 2x 850g cans. Then we noticed that his stomach always got a lot of wind. We will hear sound from his tummy and he will force the wind out by making his face red. All this usually happen at night and then he will cry, etc.

Additionally, during confinement, the lady tried to pull out the 'thing' at the belly button. We stopped her but one day showering, she claimed that it came off. We believed she pulled out and am wondering if that is the reason to my son stomach so much wind.

We changed from Enfalac A+ to S26 Gold. The wind problem persisted but was less. On Enfalac A+, he has to eat every 3 hours. With S26, he only eats every 4.5 hours. To us who are babysitting him, it's a good thing because we can get more sleep.

Last week, we tried Enfalac Prosobee (soya milk) to see if it helps with wind reduction but it did not. So Meadjohnson Enfalac is no longer an option for our baby.

Then, I bought a can of 400g Isomil (soya milk too) but have not open. This is based on a relative recommendation that Isomil is one of the best soya milk around. Baby is with S26 Gold still. Some has adviced me to go for Lactose Free milk before going to soya milk again because soya milk has low nutrients. Not good enough for baby in terms of development.

We do not want to touch Enfalac anymore. Any brands of LF milk to recommend? Does S26 has LF? Is the wind caused by the babysitter pulling off that skin on the belly button?

Additional info: Apparently, my cousin who owns a pharmacy told me S26's company Wyeth has been bought over by other company that's why they've been quiet in the market lately. But we believe their recipe is still same / improved over the years from our time (80s baby). My husband and I had S26 when we were little.

What should we do? We already tried heated daun sireh wrapped around tummy for him to pass gas, we tried bo ying compound, we use lu-yi oil on tummy and sole of feet, we have not tried "fei chai sui." Baby is now 2 months old and I just got back at work for the first day.

Appreciate any advice.
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go seek for an advise from your baby's pedia..they will help you a lot for that they knows best.
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QUOTE(moorish @ Feb 2 2011, 10:33 AM)
Did you burp him properly after feeding?
Dont shake the milk bottle, stir with a teaspoon.
Use boiled water some bb cannot tahan filtered water
A good design bottle like mum or avent with anti colic will help.
Personally I dun think accidently pulling the cord out will caused bb to get colic.
Most baby starts colic season around 3 - 6 months, my bb oso the same, but not really bad

And the last thing is I duno if this is a proven thing, my CF lady told us to put bb on this thing
"Probiotix Biolife Reuteri drops" on the 2nd week, she swears this thing works to reduce bb colic in later stage. Its quite difficult to find and cost around RM110/small bottle. I found mine from a pharmacy at pudu plaza. Luckily you only need to give 1 bottle to baby.

If you want picture of the probiotix pm me

hope this help your problem, if too much headache then you should just go see your paed
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Your baby doesn't have a perfect seal of his/her mouth when she feeds.Whenever she suck the nipple of your breast or of the bottle it always comes wind an air on sides of the mouth. That is why it is really important for you to burp your baby every after feeding. This is always necessary.
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My baby currently drinking similac step 1 , he is going 6 month soon and we plan to change his milk to any brand step 2. fyi, my son weight grow very slow during 5 month, nanny asked us to changed to other brand milk which can help to boost his weight gain.

pls help...
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My past experience with my wife, first 1mth full BF, 2nd mth mix with Mamex Gold (stoma ache full of wind and always vomit even though already burp after drink), change to Enfalac A+ but hard to poo poo, then change to Enfalac Prosobee as per advice by doctor, weight and everything seem very good. Now already 6mth and already start eating nestum + milk.

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QUOTE(eddie368 @ Jun 14 2012, 09:44 AM)
My baby currently drinking similac step 1 , he is going 6 month soon and we plan to change his milk to any brand step 2. fyi, my son weight grow very slow during 5 month, nanny asked us to changed to other brand milk which can help to boost his weight gain.

pls help...
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6 months old usually about time to move into the solid food phase liao.

Heinz baby food. feed the ones with slightly higher protein enzzymes in it like banana+strawberry mixture. those often can help increase growth. If can, blend them yourself. its cheaper, cleaner and u can control everything in the ingredients.

the milk powder at this stage usually is just to supplement. NAN 1 from Nestle is for 0-12 months and my kid has been on it. only serving as supplement coz she prefers blended stuff now.
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QUOTE(merchant9 @ Jan 24 2011, 03:04 PM)
Our baby was feeding on breast milk and formula (Enfalac A+ with Triple ProGuard) for 2x 850g cans. Then we noticed that his stomach always got a lot of wind. We will hear sound from his tummy and he will force the wind out by making his face red. All this usually happen at night and then he will cry, etc.

Additionally, during confinement, the lady tried to pull out the 'thing' at the belly button. We stopped her but one day showering, she claimed that it came off. We believed she pulled out and am wondering if that is the reason to my son stomach so much wind.

We changed from Enfalac A+ to S26 Gold. The wind problem persisted but was less. On Enfalac A+, he has to eat every 3 hours. With S26, he only eats every 4.5 hours. To us who are babysitting him, it's a good thing because we can get more sleep.

Last week, we tried Enfalac Prosobee (soya milk) to see if it helps with wind reduction but it did not. So Meadjohnson Enfalac is no longer an option for our baby.

Then, I bought a can of 400g Isomil (soya milk too) but have not open. This is based on a relative recommendation that Isomil is one of the best soya milk around. Baby is with S26 Gold still. Some has adviced me to go for Lactose Free milk before going to soya milk again because soya milk has low nutrients. Not good enough for baby in terms of development.

We do not want to touch Enfalac anymore. Any brands of LF milk to recommend? Does S26 has LF? Is the wind caused by the babysitter pulling off that skin on the belly button?

Additional info: Apparently, my cousin who owns a pharmacy told me S26's company Wyeth has been bought over by other company that's why they've been quiet in the market lately. But we believe their recipe is still same / improved over the years from our time (80s baby). My husband and I had S26 when we were little.

What should we do? We already tried heated daun sireh wrapped around tummy for him to pass gas, we tried bo ying compound, we use lu-yi oil on tummy and sole of feet, we have not tried "fei chai sui." Baby is now 2 months old and I just got back at work for the first day.

Appreciate any advice.
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you can switch to Lactose Free Infant Formula.. try using AVENT Feeding bottles.. it has ANti Cholic effect.. smile.gif my baby is using it and i found that effective

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my 1 month old baby taking anmum step 1 and i found out my baby poo poo was very hard . i tried s26 b4 but he had diarrhea . any other FM brand cause this to your baby ?
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Hi my 2 kids were consuming Snow milk powder, & their stool were ok. They are 3 & 5 now, and have just successfully stop from drinking milk. I am now looking to clear my dutch lady 123 & 456 (expiring Nov 2014). Anyone of you are interested? Let go at much cheaper price than market.

can message or call me : 012 - 6777 459. thanks !
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QUOTE(ireneylchin @ Nov 9 2013, 02:19 AM)
Hi my 2 kids were consuming Snow milk powder, & their stool were ok. They are 3 & 5 now, and have just successfully stop from drinking milk. I am now looking to clear my dutch lady 123 & 456 (expiring Nov 2014). Anyone of you are interested? Let go at much cheaper price than market.

can message or call me : 012 - 6777 459. thanks !
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With snow brand, no hard /soft stool...?
Or heatiness...?

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Anyone else can feedback on snow brand milk powder...?
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Did any anyone use Novalac (AR) milk powder ??
Any comment?? My friends babysitter was highly recommend. ..
Currently baby was taking Enfalac... due to lot of wind and drink very slow, she ask us try Novalac..
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I have 7 cans of Isomil Plus to let go at RM60 per can. Expiring in Oct 2014. Reason is my child is not taking this fm anymore. COD in Kota Damansara or Publika Solaris. Pls PM, tks.
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DHA (docosahexaenoic acid) Contain in each milk (per 100g)

Similac LF - 53 mg

S-26 Gold - 56 mg

Enfalac A+ Step 1 - 87mg

Dupro 1 - 45.4mg

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as you can see Enfalac is TOP among others.
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Enfalac fake.becareful
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fm controversy... Hidden sugar.
I could'nt bf my 1st baby. So, i gave him fm.
And, he was hyperactive child now. I'm not sure whether it was the effect from the fm. But, probably.

Thankfully, i can bf my 2nd baby.

Btw, i was informed that there is non gmo fm. Bonlife.
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any parent gave your baby enfalac A+ step 2 with mfgm logo?

my baby start having diarrhea and rashes when he poop. he has no problem with step 1 and step 2 before, just after they upgrade to mfgm formula my baby is not sitable for it.
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How is dumex mamex cherish 1 vs enfalac step 1?
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QUOTE(andreafayming @ Feb 5 2011, 04:02 PM)
hi merchant9,

is your baby still taking s26? when she change the milk powder is there any changes to her? like poo poo alot? or don't drink?

my baby is 1 month old now. I'm feeding her anmum infacare.. her poo poo v hard coz I just feed her formula now..

she also cry at nite after drinking n always like not enuf but once I add half oz she can't finish. so she awake v often for milk..

u mean ur baby drink s26 the feeding time longer? is your baby still got lots of wind?

hope to hear from u soon :-)

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I aso give my baby anmum mix with bm but he got constipation..Very difficult to poo poo..after that i change to s26 mix with bm & my baby tolerate well..so far no difference about feeding time more longer between anmum & s26 for my bby..after 7 month my baby got diarrhea and we change to enfalac A + he seem love that milk so much.My sleep time got ok after 6 month.No zombie mama anymore.

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