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QUOTE(shajack @ Feb 2 2011, 12:39 AM)
so,bwk la g arab saudi dl ke,transit...(xtgk peta,negara ane yg frendly)...tenet ttp,bloomberg risau,penjara dh pch kuar,polis xde(ni sume pn tgk tenet,sahih xtau la ye x)...any more reason?
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IINM that is one of the plan, using land vehicle to transport Msia citizen out from Eygpt
they even ask the Msia Embassy in neighboring country to offer help to coordinate this

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was watching weapons race on 555 HIST channel,

F-22 raptor is stealth?!
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Friend or foe? Egypt's army keeps protesters guessing

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They arrived with a growing roar that the crowd felt before they saw them: two sharp, banking shapes sweeping so low over Cairo's Tahrir Square that the engine flames were visible.

It was a noise that made the demonstrators duck, a deafening wall of sound as two Egyptian air force F-16s buzzed the central Cairo square that has become the symbolic centre of opposition to the three-decades-long regime of President Hosni Mubarak.

For the first time the army swamped the streets with tanks, a squadron of them trying to push into the square, stopped by an at first angry crowd who sat down in front of them, fearing that the army – once seen as allies – might try to retake the square. The jets and helicopters making the deafening low sweeps over the crowd were an apparent attempt to intimidate the tens of thousands of protesters who had gathered for the sixth day running.

The assertion of authority by the military, who were initially welcomed by the crowds when armoured vehicles first appeared on the streets last Friday night, has become more complicated in the last 24 hours, with many saying they were becoming suspicious of where the army stood.

That uncertainty was underlined by a visit made by Mubarak to army chiefs, supposedly to "review" security in the country after persistent attacks by protesters on the interior ministry, seat of his police state.

What was abundantly clear was that after a night of gunfire and violence, where Cairo residents armed themselves against gangs of looters in their neighbourhoods, and thousands of prisoners escaped from the jails, Egypt awoke to the first indications that the army was moving to take control.

"First we trusted them, and now we don't trust them so much any more," said Mohamed Ali, 67, who was standing in front of the tanks.

Sherif Gaber, 43, the owner of a contracting company who had been in the square overnight, agreed. "They're trying to frighten people. The army are supposed to be our saviour," he said. "What are they doing here today?"

"This terrorism," said Ashraf Subayi, a 35-year-old physician. "Do you think something like this could happen in a European country? We will stay here, even if we have to die."

Suspicions about the army's motives were mixed with scenes of affection earlier in the day between soldiers and demonstrators, who allowed troops to use their mobile phones to call home or offered them cigarettes.

"I am glad they are continuing to protest. God willing, he (Mubarak) will go," said one air force captain in uniform.

One banner held by protesters summed up the military's dilemma: "The army must chose between Egypt and Mubarak."

As the sun set, however, the crowds swelled and protests were reinvigorated.

Mohamed ElBaradei – the Nobel peace laureate whom opposition movements want to lead a transitional government – addressed the crowd by megaphone, promising "change in the coming days" and demanding the unequivocal end of Mubarak's regime. "You have taken back your rights. What has been done cannot be undone. We are entering a new era."

ElBaradei's arrival in the square was largely met with approval by protesters, thousands of whom surged forward to try to hear his words. A few people were critical, yelling "This is our revolution, not yours" at the 68-year-old, but they were shouted down.

"The people are escalating their demands, calling for Mubarak to be put on trial," said Nour, the son of the prominent Egyptian dissident Ayman Nour. "There's a problem with some political figures and forces who are coming in late to these demonstrations, trying to ride the wave. But despite that, we're very optimistic. This display of social solidarity we're seeing – people cleaning the streets, feeding each other, protecting strangers – is unique, not only to Egypt but also to the rest of the world."

The events in the square had followed a no less extraordinary period the night before, where at the interior ministry protesters had fought pitched battles with riot police and state security officers, tossing fire bombs from roofs while the police responded with live rounds. There were fatalities.

But by morning there, too, the army was in control.

At 4.30am, 20 officers were seen leaving the building and burning their uniforms and 20 police vehicles fled in convoy at 7am.

Hassan Samir, 27, an antiques gallery owner whose apartment block overlooks the ministry, said: "They left at 7am in cars and vans, firing out of the windows. There had been snipers on the roof the night before. Since they left there has not been any more firing."

The consequences of the fighting were horribly visible in a small nearby mosque, which had been turned into a makeshift aid station for the dead and wounded.

It was little more than a narrow passage between two tall buildings, but it had been transformed into a hospital, with blood soaking through the prayer mats and the muezzin's microphone, normally used to send out the call to prayer, pressed into use by an imam shouting instructions to the medics. Occasionally he prayed.

Back in Tahrir Square yesterday evening, the presence of many other overtly pious Egyptians was being taken by some observers as an indication of a significant presence of the banned Muslim Brotherhood.

Hundreds of people performed the sunset prayers. Veiled women prayed separately.

A senior Brotherhood leader, Essam el-Erian, told Associated Press he was heading to the square to meet other opposition leaders.

Erian told an Egyptian TV station that the Brotherhood is ready to contact the army for a dialogue, calling the military "the protector of the nation".

This evening at least two jets roared over the Nile minutes before the start of the latest curfew. Alarms were set off in parked cars as the aircraft dropped lower every time over the square. Some protesters clapped and waved, others jeered.

At the same time, the police were reported to have started reasserting their presence, moving back into some Cairo neighbourhoods.

In contrast to the clashes of last week however, they appeared to be meeting jeers rather than physical confrontation.

Sauce : http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/3...s-army-guessing

Man, they sure can line up those Abrams.
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In every revolution, popular or otherwise, there comes a critical moment - a tipping point - at which the future is decided.

Suddenly there is an answer to the basic question: Are the protesters too strong for the power structure or can the country's leaders face them down?

In Iran, in 1978-79, the Shah resisted the demonstrators in the streets and ordered his soldiers to shoot them for several months until his will to continue gave way and he escaped.

In China's Tiananmen Square in 1989, crowds a million strong gathered - not just students but sometimes judges, senior policemen, politicians as well - but Deng Xiaoping refused to go and eventually found a general who was prepared to shoot the demonstrators down.

All popular revolutions share certain basic similarities.

The vast crowds, often gathering for the first time, believe that they are bound to win because there are so many of them and their determination is so great.

But if the political structure refuses to take the hint and keeps the support of the army and the secret police then it can survive.

It all depends on how strong and resilient the structure of government is.

In the revolutions of 1989-90 in eastern Europe the communist autocracies which had seemed so fierce, so well-based, were shown to be brittle and wafer-thin.

In Russia in 1991 the demonstrators who brought down Marxism and Leninism were few in number and nervous of the government reaction, but the Soviet government was even more feeble and collapsed without a fight.

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we dont have c-17s or c-5s...comitting ALL of our hercules not gonna be viable..only 1-2 can be dispatched.other countries have hundreds of citizens in egypt,we have 11 thousand students.whats with holier than thou college students wanting to go to egypt so much?


blajar kat IIUM dah cukup bagus..balik malaysia mula la spread their 'superior' knowledge to their friends,encouraging their friends to join al-qaeda..urghhh..this is a true story,he was a friend...he studied in egypt for a while and when he got back he became a part time lecturer and recruited dumbasses for al-qaeda...long story short somebody reported him and i havent heard from him since...maybe he in gitmo or ISA-ed


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Egypt crisis: First evacuation of M'sian students to start by Thursday

PETALING JAYA: The first evacuation of Malaysian students from Cairo to Saudi Arabia will begin by Thursday at the latest.

The Government is despatching two C130 RMAF aircraft Wednesday to Cairo and fly the students to Jeddah.

National Security Council secretary Datuk Thajuddeen Abdul Wahab, who is in Egypt to coordinate the evacuation, said that he was informed the RMAF aircraft would leave Kuala Lumpur at noon Wednesday.

We are waiting for the green light from the Saudi government to issue temporary visas to our students. We hope everything can be done by today.

A C130 can accommodate at least 150 passengers, so we are hoping to evacuate some 300 by early tomorrow,” he told The Star.

Thajuddeen also said Malaysian officials in Cairo had managed to facilitate the return of 150 students via commercial flights on Tuesday night.

“They should arrive in Kuala Lumpur anytime now.”

He said the Malaysian Embassy had sent nasi goreng and mineral water to students stranded at the Cairo airport.

"The RMAF aircraft will also be taking foodstuff, including rice, curry powder, cooking oil, milk formula and dried chillies to Cairo," he added.

Defence Minister Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi confirmed that the two RMAF C130 aircraft would be leaving for Cairo on Wednesday afternoon.

He also said that the Royal Malaysian Navy’s auxiliary ship, Bunga Mas 5, would arrive at the port of Adabiyah on Saturday to help in the evacuation of Malaysian students.

“The ship can accommodate about 500 passengers. The students will be taken to Jeddah,” he added.

Adabiyah is about a two hours’ drive from Cairo.

Parents can call the following numbers for inquiries on the Malaysian students in Cairo:

Foreign Ministry Operations Room - Tel: 03-88892746, 03-88874570, 019-2784566, 03-88874770, 03-88892830.
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Egypt crisis: AirAsia, MAS flying in to help evacuate M'sian students

KOTA KINABALU: AirAsia has sent an Airbus A320 aircraft to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, to help evacuate Malaysian students in Egypt.

Foreign Minister Datuk Seri Anifah Aman said the AirAsia aircraft, which departed from Kuala Lumpur for Jeddah at 2pm Wednesday, could accommodate 249 passengers.

He said AirAsia would be making four trips from Jeddah daily to bring home students evacuated from Cairo to Jeddah by RMAF aircraft.

Speaking at a press conference here, he advised parents with children in Egypt not to worry as the Government was doing its best to protect Malaysians there.

"The Government is also working closely with the Indonesian and Bruneian governments in the evacuation process.

"For example, Garuda is already at Cairo airport and if they have extra seats, they could take in the Malaysians stranded at the airport," he added.

There are 11,000 Malaysian students in Egypt.

Meanwhile, Malaysia Airlines (MAS) managing director and chief executive officer Tengku Datuk Seri Azmil Zahruddin said a MAS aircraft would leave for Cairo Thursday morning.

"We are working out with our own engineers to accommodate as many passengers (as possible) in the flight," he said.

Meanwhile, Defence Minister Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi said the operation to evacuate Malaysian students stranded in Egypt was expected to take four days.

He said 30 personnel from the Armed Forces and a further 30 from other government agencies including Wisma Putra would be involved in the evacuation operation.

Zahid also called on non-governmental organisations to assist the Government in the evacuation operation.

He also said the Saudi Arabian government has issued temporary visas for the students leaving for Jeddah.

"They will be placed at the Tabung Haji complex in Jeddah as a temporary measure," he added.

Bernama reported that the Putera 1Malaysia Club will send 30 tonnes of foodstuff to Egypt to help Malaysians affected by the anti-government protests in the country.

Its president Datuk Abdul Azeez Abdul Rahim said they would go with the AirAsia plane provided by the low-cost carrier.

Abdul Azeez said their team would include 30 volunteers, among them doctors, to help students and others in the troubled country.

"We will provide food and help in evacuation mission. Parents should not be worried as the Government is doing its best to help their children there," he said.

Hundreds of thousands of Egyptian are staging demonstrations across major Egyptians cities in a bid to force President Hosni Mubarak to end his 30-year rule, plunging the country into its worst crisis in recent times.

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The next generation fighter planes being for built Australia, the US, the UK and six other countries will have parts made in Bankstown.

The Boeing site at Bankstown Airport will be taken over by Perth manufacturer Quickstep, and is likely to inject more than half a billion dollars and lead to the creation of up to 400 jobs.

Minister for Defence Materiel Jason Clare said $10 million in assistance from the Federal Government had helped lure Quickstep to Bankstown.

“The Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) is a long-range stealth fighter. It’s the future of fighter planes and part of that will be made here in Bankstown,” Mr Clare said.

“Australia is partnering with the US and seven other countries to deliver this next generation fighter plane.”

Mr Clare said Quickstep had today signed a Long Term Agreement with Northrop Grumman – one of the major multi-national Defence companies building the JSF.

“That’s terrific news for Bankstown. Around 3,000 of these planes are expected to be built over the next 20 years and Quickstep plans to build parts for many of them.”

The Long Term Agreement is a binding agreement under which individual contracts are awarded for different components of the JSF.

The agreement now means Quickstep is in a position to secure up to $580 million worth of work over the next 20 years, building:
· access panels;
· fuel tank covers;
· aircraft skins; and
· in-board weapons bay doors.


Quickstep has also signed a Memorandum of Understanding with Marand Precision Engineering to supply composite vertical tail skins for the JSF.

Australia has already committed to buying 14 JSF planes.

A Government decision to acquire at least 58 more to form the first three operational squadrons and a training unit will be made in 2012.

Mr Clare said this agreement built on others being made to secure work for Australian companies.

“I’m also happy to announce that I recently signed a Global Supply Deed with Lockheed Martin, the prime contractor on the JSF project,” Mr Clare said.

“Under the agreement Lockheed Martin will put in place a team of people dedicated to finding opportunities for Australian companies on top of the JSF project.

“Lockheed Martin is one of the biggest Defence companies in the world, employing 136,000 people.

“They’re in charge of some big and important projects around the world and this gives Australian companies access to the work that flows out of that.

“It’s a chance for Australian companies to take their expertise to the world.”

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well, that is the best thing can happen when u have strong-grip-government-linked company. If both airliners is fully independent private company, then dont ever expect any help from them
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LOL Paskals using adidas snickers (army issued) doh.gif
should they use proper shoes
or the adidas really comfortable to wear during the rescue  thumbup.gif
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THATS real GANGSTA YO!!!!
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f*** YEAH..you know this country is a kiss-ass country when zahid hamidi is airborne qualified and has a GGK beret
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f*** YEAH..you know this country is a kiss-ass country when zahid hamidi is airborne qualified and has a GGK beret
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sorry for noob question.. sarcasm or true?
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sorry for noob question.. sarcasm or true?
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he gets a badge and beret every ggk trooper shed tears and blood to get by being najib's drinking buddy before he was PM
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he gets a badge and beret every ggk trooper shed tears and blood to get by being najib's drinking buddy before he was PM
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Bijan also got it too when he's a Defence Minister, even Mahathir got it.
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correct me if im wrong,mahathir bumped d idea 4 PAC rite?
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