QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Nov 6 2011, 05:20 PM)
ahh,pakistani M113 knockoff
we can do that too...trust me.the only hard thing are the FCS and the armor(if we want more than aluminum alloy)
we can?
wow that's great....maybe we simply choose not to?
I really doubt we can or would produce the M113,if even the (comparatively)simple design of the M16/M4 rifles we CHOOSE not to do....
(both of these technologies are derived from the vietnam war,about 40 years ago....so I don't think theres any issue of proprietary or advanced techs)
Anyway,if M16/M4 series rifle are not your cup of tea,there are simpler weapons that virtually any nation with a decent weapons industry can make,such as the Armalite AR-18.
Armalite AR-18
Internal Schematic of the AR-18The Armalite AR-18 is basically a good rifle (usually cited as at par with at least the M16A1) as it is virtually a simplified version of the AR-15,to be sold as a cheap assault rifle or licensed out to less industrialised countries for production.The problem was when it was first introduced in the late 1960s the world was then still wedded to the use of large-caliber 7.62mm weapons such as the FN FAL, AK-47, M14 and G3 Rifles.
This trend continued even when the arms world has converted to the smaller 5.56mm weapons in the 1980s because of the popularity and domination of the M16/M4 and the AK-series weapons. Thus it is usually only found in the hands of certain Paramilitary forces and terrorists insurgents (most famous were the AR-18s used by the Irish Republican Army(IRA) in Northern ireland,where they were nicknamed "The Widowmaker").In the usually urban combat environment in Northern ireland,the 5.56mm AR-18 proved superior to the L1A1 SLR used by the British Army,which used the over-powerful 7.62 round.The shorter length of the barrel,smaller size and folding buttstock also made it easier to conceal.
A female IRA fighter armed with an AR-18 taking aim at Pro-British troops during skirmishes at County Armin,Northern IrelandFrom reports,it seems that the AR-18 has remained quite unknown worldwide is because of the lack of marketing and promotional efforts from Armalite for the AR-18.This may imply that the marketing dept of Armalite are a lazy bunch of people,but there is a bit of truth in it. In the 1960s,when Armalite was designing the AR-15,it made little promotional effort and received very few orders,including a trial batch from Malaysia(!) and some from South Vietnam Army (ARVN),where they were more commonly known as "ARVN Rifles".
During this time,the US forces stationed in Vietnam used the powerful,heavy 7.62mm M14 rifle, when they started observing the ARVN using the AR-15,they were very interested with the lightweight,easily controlled AR-15 and started adopting them as the M16.So it may be with a stroke of luck that Armalite got the US military contract,although in a roundabout fashion.After the world began seeing the US military using the M16 to good effect,they also wanted the M16 for their own forces,and the rest is history.....
It seems that this rifle may possibly represent an (as yet) untapped potential in the local weapons industry.It's designed to be simple to produce and has a decent service record.As a bonus as it is operated with a short stroke piston gas system,its much easier to maintain and clean than the direct impingement system used in the M16/M4 weapons.Some may say that this rifle lacks the modern "look" of a combat rifle,but as far as I see,the Malaysian Army doesn't even utilize the modularity and the upgradability inherent in the M16/M4 weapons in its arsenal,using the weapon without any sort of attachment or upgrades that can help a soldier fight more effectively(for example magnified targeting scopes or reflex sights) other than in the Special Forces.
We can always use any sort of weapon as an experiment to test our capability to manufacture weapons and what more would be more appropriate than a rifle that is designed to be very easily manufactured?As a starting point for our very own weapons manufacturing capabilities,I don't see why not? If we can't even manufacture something that's designed to be easily manufactured,maybe we deserve to waste all our money buying weapons from elsewhere.....
This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Nov 10 2011, 03:06 PM 
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