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post Apr 15 2011, 10:31 AM

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what is the function of that opened hatch?
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post Apr 22 2011, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(hantu.laut @ Apr 22 2011, 08:00 PM)
AFAIK TNI AL never release statement that they're greater than others, but they admitted they're well trained.

many war began with Border Dispute, recently u can see Thai and Cambodia.

so as long as two country want to seriously solve this matter (in this case Sea Border), good relationship will be restored.
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the problem is they dont want to.. a few weeks back neighbor fisherman get caught near penang by APMM iinm..

what are their respond? caught our fisherman in our territory..


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post Apr 22 2011, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(hantu.laut @ Apr 22 2011, 08:47 PM)
worse, few months back Polis Marin caught Indonesian Fishing Dept. employee while in their territory, according to International Law no other country is allow to detained Foreign Govt. Employee on duty in the border.

those two incident shows Border Dispute escalate, FYI Indonesia had already settled Border matter with Spore,Philippine,East Timor,PNG, Australia.
funny thing only with Msia they've got problem, according to Indonesian Foreign Ministry, Msia Govt. keep delayed this matter.

who knows ?
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our territory not them.. they get caught redhand with our fisherman doing what they claims in their territory..
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post Apr 22 2011, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(lulz @ Apr 22 2011, 08:59 PM)
last time where the gps showed that they are the one that trespassed, while their claimed gps rosak/no battery or something? hahah
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in news, it was conlude that they use their own claimed territory border instead of internationally verified border..

QUOTE(keown83 @ Apr 22 2011, 08:59 PM)
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the fact he just registered in less than 6 hours is making me more skeptical..
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post May 13 2011, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(heavyduty @ May 13 2011, 05:09 PM)
them SEALs recruited me to catch an old man with a beard that liked to crash planes into buildings.cant remember his name though

the arizona bit is a cover story so russia doesnt get scared and launch nukes.
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sad the oldman dies without checking out froyo.. im sure he hates steve as much as i do..

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post Jun 6 2011, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jun 6 2011, 02:59 PM)
This is wrong
what about the family of the fallen soldier,police?
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itu la pasal..

one way to add insult to injury..


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post Jun 20 2011, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(admnovsk @ Jun 19 2011, 09:15 PM)
http://www.military.com/news/article/fight...raeli-base.html

this is worse compared to our stolen F5 engines. they lose 8 F15/F16 engines man  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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i guess they wont have any kind of israeltoday to slam their own armed forces on the net.. cool2.gif

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post Jul 14 2011, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(studentportal @ Jul 13 2011, 11:13 PM)
It looks like a rabbit or a cat, I dono how to explain.
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whiskers is there.. blush.gif
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post Jul 25 2011, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(^KamilskaZ^ @ Jul 25 2011, 12:15 AM)
owh look the comment
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on my fesbuk newsfeed, everything thats good about the government or its people are trollbait, any thing that slams them are the holy

scriptures and need to be defended from the so called heretics..






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post Aug 4 2011, 10:12 AM

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that is truly TL:DR post..
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QUOTE(Naskah @ Aug 8 2011, 09:06 AM)
yay i believed indeed, Malaysia & umno menuju kuasa besar dunia, we beat Singapork, hell yeah!
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damm indonesia can pawn us no problemo..
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post Aug 13 2011, 05:43 PM

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As China Launches Aircraft Carrier, Taiwan Touts ‘Aircraft Carrier Killer’
August 10, 2011, 9:17 PM HKT
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On the day China began sea trials of its first aircraft carrier, Taiwan made what can only be described as a provocative move, displaying its newest anti-ship cruise missile in front of an illustration of what appeared to be China’s new carrier being hit by missiles.

Above the missile, known as the Hsiung Feng III, was a sign that labeled the weapon an “aircraft carrier killer.”

The missile was being displayed as part of a preview ahead of the annual Taipei Aerospace and Defense Technology Exhibition. Though there were no markings to indicate the carrier in the background illustration was Chinese, the ship featured a sloped runway similar to that of the Varyag – the Ukrainian carrier whose empty hull was used in the building of the new Chinese carrier, which has yet to be named.

Although the Hsiung Feng III has been discussed as a potential deterrent to China’s ships and aircraft carriers, it has never been explicitly described as an anti-carrier weapon.

Nonetheless experts played down the seemingly goading presentation of the missile, arguing that China is unlikely to see the missile as much of a threat.

Former Deputy Defense Minister Chong Pin Lin told China Real Time he thought the display was more geared to a Taiwanese audience as the growing military imbalance between China and Taiwan has become an growing concern in Taiwan. China’s military might has increased by leaps and bounds over the past twenty years as it has ramped up spending. Meanwhile, Taiwan’s president Ma Ying-jeou has recently come under fire for allowing defense spending to slip below 3% of GDP.

“This is likely for domestic consumption, it doesn’t mean anything to Beijing,” Mr. Lin said. “In fact, Beijing might like to see this because they want to see [president] Ma get re elected….and this tells our voters that the Ma administration is not being lax on defense.”

He also said that he did not foresee China utilizing its aircraft carriers to threaten Taiwan, as placing a carrier group in the Pacific or South China Sea would be too provocative.

Many analysts argue otherwise, pointing out that China has grown increasingly vocal in its territorial claims in the region and said its new defensive capabilities were being developed to help it enforce its claims. In a potential conflict with Taiwan, some analysts have argued, a carrier group would help keep the U.S. from intervening and could add to China’s ability to threaten a key Taiwan airbase on the island’s east coast at Hualien, where many of its F-16s are stationed.

It would be hard to deny the potential affect of a growing Chinese navy on the balance of power in the region and the resulting concern, but the hawkish display seems out of place given the historic thaw in cross-Strait ties that Mr. Ma has presided over in recent years.

Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defense said Wednesday that it had no immediate comment but would issue a statement about the display on Thursday.

Regardless of whether the display was intended as a warning, it at least shows Taiwan is willing to challenge China in creating belligerent defense fair booths. Although not as technologically advanced as a Chinese display at the 2010 Zhuhai Air Show that showed unmanned aerial vehicles taking out a U.S. carrier, the vision of the missile suspended in front of an exploding aircraft carrier certainly makes an impact.

– Paul Mozur. The Wall Street Journal
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QUOTE(corad @ Aug 14 2011, 10:52 PM)
I usually embrace all ideas , but this one is definitely worth shooting down !  A "defence writer" who does not even bother to get his facts right ? MAS has received 4 of their new 738 and a further dry lease of 5 b738 (no sky interior) as of August 2011. 2 A330's have been delivered since March (9M-MTA , MTB)  not none as the writer stated.

If he can't even be bothered to find out basic and much touted facts (in Khazanah's bulletin, MAS Going Places, NST , The Star, Maybank Finanicals, etc etc ) how dare he even try and estimate the amount it would cost to convert these planes into AWACS ? And what's with taking MH's planes ?? Why not AirAsia's ?

MH does not have too many planes . It's AirAsia with their multi billion dollar order of 200++ A320's that will face this problem as their delivery dates get nearer and nearer. I speculate that Tony bought these planes now ala Ryanair with their B738 order, when he can afford them (or seems to anyway) jamming up the order list and forcing other airlines to lease these planes to them with a good margin.

The MAS BBJ was given to the Federal Gov as a cost saving measure (MAS didn't have to pay and Khazanah got a gigantic tax relief) , and also because no one but our Sultans could have used it anyway. I remember an article where if you are not royalty, you will have to take off your shoes upon entering ... And this plane , DiRaja 1 did not have to go through any modification since it was already a VVIP transport .. so no $$ wasted. 

Why does the writer not cite Singapore as an example instead ? They are using 2 converted Fokker 50 for maritime patrols and it seems to be doing them well. But since their maintenance is getting more and more expensive let's not take that route. There are 5 of Berjaya's Q-400 STOL just waiting for buyers, Transmile MD11, B732 and B722 also sitting around Subang doing nothing. If TUDM had really wanted a AWACS badly I'm sure these aircraft would have been worthy for the task.

A more realistic scenario is that TUDM does not actually need an AWACS. What would it do in peacetime anyway ? IMHO they are going the route of drones or aircraft big enough just to monitor a small hotspot, eg: human traffickers (land /sea), pirates, SAR etc. So a Gulfstream would be more than adequate
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u think u can bargain military equipment during wartime?

u think we are in economic position to bargain during war time?


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QUOTE(corad @ Aug 15 2011, 05:03 PM)
An accurate perception but this "insurance" has to be much more tactical than just arming ourselves up. No war in history has ever been won without allies. And this is the route I see M'sia taking. We don't need these big fancy machines now or for the next 30-50 years. I'm not saying we don't need an Airbone Platform, but certainly no need for a full scale AWACS. After all, how many of our fighters are required to be on CAP 24/7 ?? = 0 .

So even if we did have an E3 or M-2075 Phalcon , it would probably be sitting in its hanger waiting for the next photoshoot.
Allies. Lots of them smile.gif
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allies? name one who are not in deep shit right now?
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QUOTE(kuan1234 @ Oct 22 2011, 03:52 PM)
i thought is afterburn in the picture...
so is not normal ?
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pics looks more like dump and burn procedure fire rather than real afterburning.. afterburner takeoff does not differ that much visually than normal takeoff iinm..

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Nov 20 2011, 11:03 PM)
so they can sell to msia 10x the price? cause they know some1 will need $$$ for songlap?
indo richer than msia la... their gdp 4x msia's  doh.gif
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sure with almost 10x population they were richer than us but still... whistling.gif

i thought their last purchase from novaya russia were on credit.. hmm.gif

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countdown to v7
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Dec 9 2011, 10:01 AM)
why Malaysia no interest in this plane?
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sked flaming by oppo?

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