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EnochKeng
post May 28 2011, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Peekab0o @ May 27 2011, 03:18 PM)
Any idea how much it roughly cost ? With the 5 years warranty tag i don't think its cheap.  drool.gif
Normal ones only 1year warranty oledi Rm 150++
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Price im not so sure. Need to go check out. But think probably more than 150 ++ haha

Guys, I need help. This issue is starting to get annoying and I knw something is wrong with my engine. Rmb previously I said when I cold start my engine. My car rpm drop to 200 to 300. This problem still persistent after changing the auto choke assembly. The Auto Choke is working now, only if i rev the engine. When I start the engine, the revving is not smooth. Stil hav the 3 cilinder running sound from my exhaust. Sounded like "bup bup bup bup" rev also "bup bup bup bup" thn giv a 3k rev it will start the auto choke. stop at 1.5k. Then slowly the "bup bup bup" sound turn to normal exhaust flow sound. icon_question.gif


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post May 31 2011, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(lyordson @ May 31 2011, 03:42 AM)
dear sifussss,

i want to ask, mine is 2005 lmst, the OEM extractor is tuned length or normal?
(is it like the all time famous WiSE one?)

and, a week ago, i rev up to 5k rpm at 2nd gear, got black smoke blowed out from exhaust.
friend of mine said exhaust bocor wor.. possible?
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AFR gone wrong liao, need to tune ur carb or if worse case engine piston ring and valve seal k.o, it also can cause by bad spark plug, need to change already.


Added on May 31, 2011, 10:28 amWhat is the sign of faulty Mechanical Fuel Pump? When start engine hard to rev and sometime engine wont run smoothly for juz a few sec. Could it cause by fuel pump jam or sign of faulty?

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post May 31 2011, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ May 31 2011, 01:03 PM)
check ur plugs, plug cables and distributor unit first... make sure they are firing well...
change ur fuel filter first... after that only look into ur fuel pump...
fuel pump hardly damage... the only damage i experienced when using it was when it is leaking fuel... doh.gif
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how to check distributor? start engine and plug out the plug cable to see the spark? will change the fuel filter this service..leaking fuel? the rubber hose broken or the fuel pump leaking?

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post May 31 2011, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ May 31 2011, 06:26 PM)
lmst oem suspension stiff??...  blink.gif
u havent sat in coilovers yet huh...  brows.gif
unplug the cable...
find any used working sparkplug and cucuk inside...
make sure the kaki electrode touching any metal part of ur car... do not touch the spark plug with ur bare hands... holding the insulated plug cable is ok...
start engine and check if got spark or not....
repeat the steps for all 4 plug cables....

last time my case was fuel pump unit leaking.. not the hose... hence need to change the whole unit...
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thx for tips smile.gif now need to find spark plug. lol
But i did realized, it only happened on cold start. vry rough idling at 200 rpm. step on gas for few times then only it started auto choke. what's wrong? could it be distributor? rclxub.gif
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post Jun 1 2011, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ May 31 2011, 08:19 PM)
could be carburetor problem as wel...
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Haiz, call my the mech, tell him the detail he said big chance due to carburetor choke fuel jam not vry sure which component but need to fix. He said not easy. haiz..there goes $$$ damn
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post Jun 2 2011, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(kryptonite2009 @ Jun 2 2011, 12:08 PM)
Guys im facing problem here,my saga lmst everytime when start car,during engine cold,the auto choke does not work,the rpm stay around 500+..the car is choking and shaking,like not enuff air/fuel,
i hav to press the pedal for long time ,rev it to 1.5k rpm only ok.

Anyone noe how to adjust the setting of auto choke on 4g13 carb ar?
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Same problem, mine was lower around 100 - 200..need to service ur auto choke already. It will not 100% fully recover after changing the service parts, that is for my case. Today bring my car to mech and it was related to the auto choke again. So clean the carb test for a week. if problem still persistent, need to look into auto choke again. Worse case. change Carb. rclxub.gif
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post Jun 2 2011, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(Peekab0o @ Jun 2 2011, 07:06 PM)
Change CRAB >>> Weber !    drool.gif  wub.gif  drool.gif
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LOL! I got think about it. Twin Weber. But tunner whr to find? Also wrong tunning FC damn high. LOL don wanna hav hole in my pocket or visit petrol station like hawker center. Guess wat. new carb for iswara OEM Japan RM1350 @@ holy crap sweat.gif
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post Jun 2 2011, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(Notoriez @ Jun 2 2011, 11:28 PM)
Please be reminded that playing Weber is only for those who have patience and passion...

And DONT expect to get good FC from playing weber...
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Ya i know that. wasnt goin to step into weber thingy. Thx for the advice. haha I juz wan my car to be normal. Current carb reli giving me problem. Also realize my carb sound alot louder than other iswara. Thinking of changing new carb. Suggestion? please. icon_question.gif
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post Jun 3 2011, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(fleekreturn @ Jun 3 2011, 12:23 AM)
Carb sound louder? Hows that?
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Step on the gas the suction(sort of) is alot louder, even my fren who used to drive a iswara felt it, it is not like air filter sound. Haiz sad.gif


Added on June 3, 2011, 12:47 am
QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jun 3 2011, 12:26 AM)
not ur carburetor problem laa
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I also not vry sure leh. Today bring to workshop the mechanic said was my carburetor problem. Auto choke(recently changed). haiz. like endless. also today, switch off engine. engine still jerking like out of breath. previously after overhaul it was ok for a month or 2, then juz recently it came back. doh.gif after tat hard to start. full throttle to start engine.

sifu catacombs, u knw what is wrong with my engine? icon_question.gif please.

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post Jun 3 2011, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(fleekreturn @ Jun 3 2011, 01:07 AM)
Enoch, havent u try tuning ur carb? Check ur plug cable? Ur plug condition? There is 1 workshop at kajang that can tune our carb using the co2 machine.


Added on June 3, 2011, 1:09 amOr try check whether got any hose disconnected or not in ur engine bay. Try to check those little detail first.
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Vacuum hoses, check and replaced harden hoses.
plug condition brand new.
plug cable so far i been switching both bougicord and my previous pronto cable, both seems to be same. so it wasnt the plug cable problem i guess.
left carb tuning. im living in johor bahru area. hard to find good tuner for carburetor. but i manage to saw one shop rebuilding some serious old skool car. might drop by to the shop. today morning tune myself. somehow my tunning work. cold start went better than before. tmr try again. hopefully i can get it right. smile.gif

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post Jun 3 2011, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jun 3 2011, 01:10 PM)
i not God maa.. how i know without even looking at it...  doh.gif
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LOL true! sweat.gif


Added on June 3, 2011, 6:28 pm
QUOTE(Notoriez @ Jun 3 2011, 01:59 PM)
I got 2 spare carbs brows.gif

Up for sale if really interested....RM250 biggrin.gif
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thx, but will pass for now. been fixing this car till broke. haiz.

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post Jun 3 2011, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(fleekreturn @ Jun 3 2011, 07:54 PM)
u adjust ur autochoke izzit? there should be no major problem then i guess. only need some tweak at ur carb.
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Ya, lets hope it tat way. tmr morning try again. if still cannot solve. i might bring to de shop for tuning. hopefully they knw wat to do. not like most of the shop which only tune idling. and hope it's juz out of tune *finger cross*
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post Jun 7 2011, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(sinister_sid @ Jun 7 2011, 08:56 AM)
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diy ae101 11blade aircond fan to rad fan
now my enigne bay got space for TD04L whistling.gif
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WAH~ is that NGK power cable?? @@

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post Jun 7 2011, 11:10 PM

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rclxub.gif Guys i need help again! I am starting to hate my car already! today i turn my ignition, car wont start. like no responses from starter then turn few more time plus pedal on gas then it suddenly started. Is it the starter rosak? icon_question.gif

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palaih bland claim for england cost me 30 buckĀ  laugh.gif
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Sure look like NGK lol..good bang for RM30..

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post Jun 8 2011, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(sinister_sid @ Jun 8 2011, 12:00 AM)
got tick tak tick tak noise anot ?
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tick tak? erm..like totally silent. then meter light will still dim when i turn the key. no response from starter. why so many problem rclxub.gif
Starter kong? how much is the price for replacing a new starter? roughly, im on vry tight budget already haiz..
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post Jun 10 2011, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jun 8 2011, 02:20 AM)
starter going to kong d... if dun wan change starter first, check starter wiring... ur car lmst or old saga iswara??...
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back, was in KL business trip.
my iswara LMSS version..old iswara i think. Starter kong. Is it expensive to change?
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post Jun 10 2011, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jun 10 2011, 04:43 PM)
starter alone rm1xx only... max include workmanship would be rm200...
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thx for info bro. Haiz hopefully tmr my car can still start T.T
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post Jun 11 2011, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(Peekab0o @ Jun 10 2011, 09:25 PM)
Confirm can ! Start liao more powerful then before ! Cheer up menz .  thumbup.gif
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Thx man! haha I don dare to try start now. Save all the starting for tmr.. laugh.gif

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