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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum! V23, The first Proton car in production

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GMS FearLess
post Feb 3 2011, 05:34 PM

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ur starter sound like honda ah?? tongue.gif
later got loan to setel whole suspension that time i cpat2 buy with you
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post Feb 3 2011, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Feb 3 2011, 05:34 PM)
ur starter sound like honda ah?? tongue.gif
later got loan to setel whole suspension that time i cpat2 buy with you
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no la
use back paliah starter only
but it bridge and use fatter power source to start ur engine
say olso no believe
go hear engine start alive sound no hear the paliah starter sound tongue.gif
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post Feb 3 2011, 08:53 PM

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post Feb 3 2011, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(sinister_sid @ Feb 3 2011, 05:43 PM)
no la
use back paliah starter only
but it bridge and use fatter power source to start ur engine
say olso no believe
go hear engine start alive sound no hear the paliah starter sound  tongue.gif
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i like starter like honda......that also called high speed starter.....last year when i work at workshop,some guys work as police also friend of mine have change rims and change shock absorber sports on her car,proton wira 4G15.....i ask he how can like that.....he say private mecha add relay or something.......im wondering what item was installed.... hmm.gif hmm.gif

untill now im still wondering


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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Feb 3 2011, 08:53 PM)
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wah......can go 180 eh???extractor what you use 4-1 or 4-2-1??

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post Feb 3 2011, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ February 3, 2011, 9:13 pm)
i like starter like honda......that also called high speed starter.....last year when i work at workshop,some guys work as police also friend of mine have change rims and change shock absorber sports on her car,proton wira 4G15.....i ask he how can like that.....he say private mecha add relay or something.......im wondering what item was installed.... hmm.gif  hmm.gif

Where got 180? Approching 170 only.

Stock exhaust frm head to toe, UFO K&N air filter, NGK Iridium Max spark plugs, and NGK Power Cable, thts all.

Result was obtained with air-cond off, driver alone, car lightly loaded (approx. 30kg minus the driver's weight and petrol's weight), and gradient 0%.

Still too far behind the fastest mass production Proton which was claimed 208km/h sweat.gif
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post Feb 3 2011, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Feb 3 2011, 10:33 PM)
Where got 180? Approching 170 only.

Stock exhaust frm head to toe, UFO K&N air filter, NGK Iridium Max spark plugs, and NGK Power Cable, thts all.

Result was obtained with air-cond off, driver alone, car lightly loaded (approx. 30kg minus the driver's weight and petrol's weight), and gradient 0%.

Still too far behind the fastest mass production Proton which was claimed 208km/h  sweat.gif
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i tot 180 sweat.gif

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btw.208 is speed when their test at factory and stationary....like test dyno....when otr +drag+air resistant+weight

that why hard to get 208
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post Feb 4 2011, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Feb 3 2011, 10:59 PM)
i tot 180 sweat.gif

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btw.208  is speed when their test at  factory and stationary....like test dyno....when otr +drag+air resistant+weight

that why hard to get 208
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can 180 but not much highway can. Sg Buloh to Rawang can ^^
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post Feb 4 2011, 12:25 PM

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170km/h at rpm 5 enough already for stock saga/wara.. make sure to regularly check your engine oil.. some of it might vaporize during high temperature (lenjan time)...

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Feb 4 2011, 11:54 AM)
can 180 but not much highway can. Sg Buloh to Rawang can ^^
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Feb 4 2011, 12:25 PM)
170km/h at rpm 5 enough already for stock saga/wara.. make sure to regularly check your engine oil.. some of it might vaporize during high temperature (lenjan time)...
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Oil change every 10k kM.

FYI, my bike is faster than the car in both accereration and speed.
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post Feb 4 2011, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Feb 4 2011, 01:42 PM)
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Oil change every 10k kM.

FYI, my bike is faster than the car in both accereration and speed.
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better dont always ramp up your car like that.. your are using standard conrod bearing right? or already change to ACL or KING?
the engine oil will reduce if u always ramp up like that.. i think 160 - 170 km/h is acceptable.. but above 180 km/h u need to check regularly..
10k km OCI? Fully synthethic oil meh? fully synthethic good for top speed but will loss to semi on pickup..
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Feb 4 2011, 02:02 PM)
better dont always ramp up your car like that.. your are using standard conrod bearing right? or already change to ACL or KING?
the engine oil will reduce if u always ramp up like that.. i think 160 - 170 km/h is acceptable.. but above 180 km/h u need to check regularly..
10k km OCI? Fully synthethic oil meh? fully synthethic good for top speed but will loss to semi on pickup..
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hmm.gif What is the fact behind, appreciate if U can explain in a logical and technical manner? I hope I won't be misled by those "forman bawah pokok miar" but to be enlighted by someone with engineering knowleadge.

So, tell me, for a stock journal bearing, what is the maximum stress and pressure at the journal bearing when the 4G13 is being rev at 5,000 rpm?

And at the same time, can U elaborate more on why
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fully synthethic good for top speed but will loss to semi on pickup
as suggested?

I've been using Castrol Magnatec since the 1st oil change and I don't use cap Ah Beng, cap Ayam, or cap Ah Kau spare parts or after market replacement parts.

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Feb 3 2011, 08:53 PM)
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Are you sure you female ka? Can drive so fast... Wah, one day must challenge you racing on highway...
Very rare to see LMST driver dare belasah the car until 170 - 180 km/h.
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QUOTE(DSV4600 @ Feb 4 2011, 03:50 PM)
Are you sure you female ka? Can drive so fast... Wah, one day must challenge you racing on highway...
Very rare to see LMST driver dare belasah the car until 170 - 180 km/h.
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U really think tht is fast? shakehead.gif Then U should try to drive in Autobahnen in German.

In fact, to drive fast in a straight is the simplest task of driving, easier then to find a parking, driving in the city, etc., what U have to do is juz floor the accererator pedal, is tht simple, anyone can do it even a kid without the experience to drive can do this.

But no everyone can clock a good timing in a race track, therefore I totally agree with
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Real drivers Dont drive straight
as suggested by him, don't U?

As mentioned above, my bike is faster then my car, so I don't think tht is fast. Each individual has their own defination of
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fast
and fast is not only to drive fast at straight shakehead.gif

Oh I forgot, Happy Chinese New Year and Gung Hei Fatt Choy to all the forummers here who celebrate and to our Saga and Iswara as well.
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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Feb 4 2011, 04:33 PM)
U really think tht is fast?  shakehead.gif Then U should try to drive in Autobahnen in German.

In fact, to drive fast in a straight is the simplest task of driving, easier then to find a parking, driving in the city, etc., what U have to do is juz floor the accererator pedal, is tht simple, anyone can do it even a kid without the experience to drive can do this.

But no everyone can clock a good timing in a race track, therefore I totally agree with  as suggested by him, don't U?

As mentioned above, my bike is faster then my car, so I don't think tht is fast. Each individual has their own defination of  and fast is not only to drive fast at straight  shakehead.gif

Oh I forgot, Happy Chinese New Year and Gung Hei Fatt Choy to all the forummers here who celebrate and to our Saga and Iswara as well.
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Okay, then let's race around Sepang circuit then. My stock LMST vs. yours. Would be fun!
Loser buys drinks for the winner. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 4 2011, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Feb 4 2011, 02:48 PM)
hmm.gif What is the fact behind, appreciate if U can explain in a logical and technical manner? I hope I won't be misled by those "forman bawah pokok miar" but to be enlighted by someone with engineering knowleadge.

So, tell me, for a stock journal bearing, what is the maximum stress and pressure at the journal bearing when the 4G13 is being rev at 5,000 rpm?

And at the same time, can U elaborate more on why  as suggested?

engine oil also same like water... it can be vaporize.. the higher the vaporize temp ( engineering term = flash point) is better, when u are running at high RPM your engine also produce so much heat.. yes of cos, the heat is absorb by water circulation and release it by using radiator.. but inside your combustion chamber the engine temperature is at peak..


I've been using Castrol Magnatec since the 1st oil change and I don't use cap Ah Beng, cap Ayam, or cap Ah Kau spare parts or after market replacement parts.
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im saying not recommended.. that is why Mivec which is run at high RPM 6000 and above using ACL and King bearing.. otherwise it could harm your engine in the future.. but still depends on your machine..

engine oil also same like water... it can be vaporize.. the higher the vaporize temp ( engineering term = flash point) is better, when u are running at high RPM your engine also produce so much heat.. yes of cos, the heat is absorb by water circulation and release it by using radiator.. but inside your combustion chamber the engine temperature is at peak..

castrol magnatec 10w40?

its semi synthethic can last until 8,000 km, you go up to 10,000 km? thumbup.gif
castrol magnatec is a good choice of oil.. i also using it before this at my 4g9x engine.. after that change to other performance oil as per Kaki racing recommendation.



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My car cannot even reach 120kmh. sad.gif
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QUOTE(DSV4600 @ Feb 4 2011, 03:50 PM)
Are you sure you female ka? Can drive so fast... Wah, one day must challenge you racing on highway...
Very rare to see LMST driver dare belasah the car until 170 - 180 km/h.
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rare? my previous 4g13 also can hit 180km/h same as him but with aircond running..
but the gearbox noise is annoying since the FD is only at 4.3
if u change to another gearbox especially f5m222VRXe 0r F5m222xrxe, skim your flywheel,mat speed racing cam, adjustable cam pulley u can hit more higher brows.gif


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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 4 2011, 04:47 PM)
My car cannot even reach 120kmh. sad.gif
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tipula..u otai maaa..
gear 1 of cos la cant reach 120


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QUOTE(DSV4600 @ Feb 4 2011, 04:39 PM)
Okay, then let's race around Sepang circuit then. My stock LMST vs. yours. Would be fun!
Loser buys drinks for the winner.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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sayangila orang tersayang sweat.gif

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QUOTE(DSV4600 @ Feb 4 2011, 04:39 PM)
Okay, then let's race around Sepang circuit then. My stock LMST vs. yours. Would be fun!
Loser buys drinks for the winner.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thts the car for my perents to go "pasar pagi", I didn't know tht this "car" has some track potential.

No drinks for winner, but loser will need to post his/her nude pictures here how brows.gif Who wants to join the competition? Perhaps winner gets naked picture.

QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 4 2011, 04:47 PM)
My car cannot even reach 120kmh. sad.gif
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shakehead.gif Engine preservation in progress

Sorry my bad doh.gif I meant run-in in progress
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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Feb 4 2011, 04:58 PM)
Thts the car for my perents to go "pasar pagi", I didn't know tht this "car" has some track potential.

No drinks for winner, but loser will need to post his/her nude pictures here how brows.gif  Who wants to join the competition? Perhaps winner gets naked picture.
shakehead.gif Engine preservation in progress

Sorry my bad doh.gif I meant run-in in progress
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u guys want to see naked man picture? gay ka... hahahaha

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