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TSLoveIsCurry
post Jan 21 2011, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(yeapwei @ Jan 21 2011, 01:32 AM)
Are you just going to choose from this 2 colleges? Are you aiming for overseas universities?
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yes because these 2 colleges are near from my house..
taylor is near too but i think i wont be able to afford its course fees LOL
and yes too, i wan to further my study in overseas universities happy.gif
i think overseas universities are better than local universities.. (no offence for local graduates ><)
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post Jan 21 2011, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(LoveIsCurry @ Jan 21 2011, 12:54 AM)
i know all about these PROFESSIONAL EXAMINATIONS and the salary thingy as i did a lot of research on them. i love mathematics n calculating so i think i wont get bored into this subject. Now, i just want to choose a right college to further my studies.
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Trust me, its so much more than just mathematics and abc.
Its always challenging, and often demotivating.
I only start appreciating each subject, AFTER the FINALS. LMAO.
By the way, Actuarial.. is more of a type of skill than a field of study.
Its applicable to many commercial contexts.

If you hate reading, scrolling through tables, doing analysis on data samples, explaining these "techniques" and implication" to non-science users,
I suggest you think twice.
If you are confidently interested, by all means go ahead.

Dont get me started on Part I examinations. lololol
TSLoveIsCurry
post Jan 21 2011, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(RyukA @ Jan 21 2011, 08:20 AM)
Trust me, its so much more than just mathematics and abc.
Its always challenging, and often demotivating.
I only start appreciating each subject, AFTER the FINALS. LMAO.
By the way, Actuarial.. is more of a type of skill than a field of study.
Its applicable to many commercial contexts.

If you hate reading, scrolling through tables, doing analysis on data samples, explaining these "techniques" and implication" to non-science users,
I suggest you think twice.
If you are confidently interested, by all means go ahead.

Dont get me started on Part I examinations. lololol
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it will be fun then drool.gif
my dream is to become a qualified actuary happy.gif
but i wonder whether matriculation or ADTP is better..
matriculation => local or overseas
ADTP => overseas
A level => spend extra half year (i dont want to ><)
gajian88
post Jan 21 2011, 11:36 PM

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Inti hav more option in US universities then Sunway...
TSLoveIsCurry
post Jan 21 2011, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(gajian88 @ Jan 21 2011, 11:36 PM)
Inti hav more option in US universities then Sunway...
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this is true but not all universities provide actuarial science course..
so both sunway and INTI are almost the same ><
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post Jan 21 2011, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(LoveIsCurry @ Jan 21 2011, 11:16 PM)
it will be fun then  drool.gif
my dream is to become a qualified actuary happy.gif
but i wonder whether matriculation or ADTP is better..
matriculation => local or overseas
ADTP => overseas
A level => spend extra half year (i dont want to ><)
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My dream is to: 1st get exemptions from all part I and II.
Till then, I yet to have big dreams.
lol

From people around me,
A-levels would be a "better" choice to give u forehand preparations, so can still go clubbing and stuff with other Commerce faculty chicks.
SAM and other 1 year pre-U, will still be sufficient. Cause, basically not much difference, unless u study things in great depth.
If its the local Matrikulasi. then.... LOL. no comment.

ADTP is basically just like any other pre-u. just that it "combines" ur pre-u with degree. and let u admit in 1st year as a freshman., learning courses
in a degree, but with a coverage on parr with pre-U sylabus (for the 1st year).
And take note that you dont really touch anythng related to Actuarial Science in ur 1st 2years, so basically its just a chunk of Stats, Economics and calculus, which can somehow look very...dry.
I am not quite sure how the exemptions work for SoA. but I have friends that did the Actuarial Sci degree through HELP's ADTP program told me, choosing schools and whether the school availability for ur enrolment is a seperate matter. One which was doing her last year abroad in US.
She did advise me last time that" if you can, go for schools that provide exemptions, it really helps, a lot."
Till now, I have yet met anyone that passed SoA part I papers( mayb they dont even call it part I), I have friends with UK Faculty of Actuaries Part I exemption, IAA part I full exemptions, but yet to come across any SoA full exemption candidates. That sort of explain its difficulty and passing rate i guess?

Few years ago, I also considered ADTP, but not so, after I got my offer from other Aussie Uni's. lol


Added on January 21, 2011, 11:51 pm
QUOTE(LoveIsCurry @ Jan 21 2011, 11:37 PM)
this is true but not all universities provide actuarial science course..
so both sunway and INTI are almost the same ><
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Do consider HELP college, its quite reputable among.. freshies nowadays? lol
To my experience,
The choices able to "twin", is just a marketting fallacy.
Since US education is highly flexible, i believe if you do well enough, and did relevant sylabus coverage of early subjects.
Then that shouldn't be a problem for u to be admitted to schools like Iowa, Illinois in US.
SInce ADTP sylabus is quite universal, shouldn't be much of a difference.

This post has been edited by RyukA: Jan 21 2011, 11:51 PM
TSLoveIsCurry
post Jan 23 2011, 12:48 AM

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if i enroll in ausmat, can i study locally?
i just had a short discussion with my mum, she said study overseas is too costly..
arghh i dont know what decision should i make T_T
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post Jan 23 2011, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(LoveIsCurry @ Jan 23 2011, 12:48 AM)
if i enroll in ausmat, can i study locally?
i just had a short discussion with my mum, she said study overseas is too costly..
arghh i dont know what decision should i make T_T
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yup no problem though not in Public Universities. Private Universities, no problem if you meet entry requirements and can afford it ^^
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post Jan 23 2011, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(Hikari0307 @ Jan 23 2011, 01:12 AM)
yup no problem though not in Public Universities. Private Universities, no problem if you meet entry requirements and can afford it ^^
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may i know which private universities in Malaysia are providing actuarial science course?
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post Jan 23 2011, 01:32 AM

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UTAR, UCSI (no sure whether it had been accredited or not).

Other ADTP
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post Jan 23 2011, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(yeapwei @ Jan 23 2011, 01:32 AM)
UTAR, UCSI (no sure whether it had been accredited or not).

Other ADTP
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Any accreditted Universities will lead to exemptions.
Since its very confidently said that no institution in Malaysia yet to get "accreditation" from SoA or any other boards.
Basically there's no accreditted providers in Malaysia.
So they will basically just provide you courses just like "tuitions", and you will have to take the exams externally.
Which is very demotivating, to go through so many papers.......
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post Jan 23 2011, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(yeapwei @ Jan 23 2011, 01:32 AM)
UTAR, UCSI (no sure whether it had been accredited or not).

Other ADTP
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i mean a degree LOL
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post Jan 23 2011, 01:52 AM

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Any accreditted Universities will lead to exemptions.
Since its very confidently said that no institution in Malaysia yet to get "accreditation" from SoA or any other boards.
Basically there's no accreditted providers in Malaysia.
So they will basically just provide you courses just like "tuitions", and you will have to take the exams externally.
Which is very demotivating, to go through so many papers.......



Eh, I'm not sure but last time someone told me that UTAR students are able to gain some exemptions from the Actuarial Society of Malaysia.


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i mean a degree LOL


They all are degrees doh.gif

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TSLoveIsCurry
post Jan 23 2011, 02:01 AM

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Eh, I'm not sure but last time someone told me that UTAR students are able to gain some exemptions from the Actuarial Society of Malaysia.
They all are degrees  doh.gif
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but adtp = study overseas..
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post Jan 23 2011, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(yeapwei @ Jan 23 2011, 01:32 AM)
UTAR, UCSI (no sure whether it had been accredited or not).

Other ADTP
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QUOTE(LoveIsCurry @ Jan 23 2011, 01:52 AM)
i mean a degree LOL
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He means those two are the private unis that offer Degrees
Other IPTS only can do through ADP
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post Jan 23 2011, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(LoveIsCurry @ Jan 23 2011, 02:01 AM)
but adtp = study overseas..
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It's still degree right? laugh.gif

If you are considering locals then it's only UTAR and UCSI.
I don't know the difference between both institutions but I would recommend you to go for UTAR because UCSI just started providing the course in last year i think.
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post Jan 23 2011, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(yeapwei @ Jan 23 2011, 01:52 AM)
Eh, I'm not sure but last time someone told me that UTAR students are able to gain some exemptions from the Actuarial Society of Malaysia.
They all are degrees  doh.gif
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If your qualification is only recognised by ASM, you seriously cant go far.
you see, if you are a member of SoA, IAA, FoA,then you are directly eligible for membership in ASM. but not the other way round.
even singapore adapt a practise similar to SoA, so i dont see how malaysia's ASM is am good choice alone.
more of a fact to close one eye, set their own standard, and praise their own qualification.
well, your choice, lol.
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post Jan 23 2011, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(RyukA @ Jan 23 2011, 11:33 AM)
If your qualification is only recognised by ASM, you seriously cant go far.
you see, if you are a member of SoA, IAA, FoA,then you are directly eligible for membership in ASM. but not the other way round.
even singapore adapt a practise similar to SoA, so i dont see how malaysia's ASM is am good choice alone.
more of a fact to close one eye, set their own standard, and praise their own qualification.
well, your choice, lol.
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this is why i want to study overseas..
what to do if my mum doesnt allow T_T
i think i enroll in ausmat, study hard and get scholarships to study overseas.. cry.gif

This post has been edited by LoveIsCurry: Jan 23 2011, 11:16 PM
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post Jan 24 2011, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(LoveIsCurry @ Jan 23 2011, 11:14 PM)
this is why i want to study overseas..
what to do if my mum doesnt allow T_T
i think i enroll in ausmat, study hard and get scholarships to study overseas..  cry.gif
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Good luck then. smile.gif

And remember to choose specialist mathematics as one of your subjects.
Although it's hard, it's very useful for helping you to strengthen your mathematics foundation and be ready for actuarial science.
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post Jan 24 2011, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(yeapwei @ Jan 24 2011, 12:19 AM)
Good luck then.  smile.gif

And remember to choose specialist mathematics as one of your subjects.
Although it's hard, it's very useful for helping you to strengthen your mathematics foundation and be ready for actuarial science.
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sad, i dont know wheter UCSI and UTAR accept ausmat or not, they didnt state in their websites, but SAM is accepted by both uni..
and i really hope to take ADTP n study overseas! arrrrrrr

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