VW twincharger could be axed





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Thats mean they will not continue to produce TSI engine anymore?
Lucky if can buy the latest MK6 golf or scirocco equiped with TSI quickly

love the quote....

“a masterstroke of downsizing technology and a real engineering showcase"

They'll keep the TSI acronym as it generally represents forced induction engine. Currently only the 1.4 TSI comes with twincharging.

I suspect this is a marketing strategy...they introduced mind blowing hightech engine for one bacth of their car to obtain brand recognition (award after award) and start downgrading the engine when customer start to put faith on them..so they can earn back their investment on that with more realistic economic scale..

thats a shame though, i didnt even had a chance 2 sample the twincharge engine til now, n its gonna be phased out..

but then again, considerin its vw, the new turbo is gonna be a masterpiece as well..

who needs supercharging when the turbo technology is so advanced nowadays? and why add more weight and complexity with a supercharger when u can make do with just a turbo?

good decision to make this happen!

Doubt it though. Article never quote any source.... Who is the "well placed insiders". This engine is in almost all their lower end models now.

The supercharging actually is working at low RPM and we all know that most of the Turbo will not get good result at low RPM or we call it turbo lag, so VW thinking to get good power from low to high rpm, so they mixed the supercharge and turbocharge together, low rpm the supercharge will kick in to give full torque until certain rpm, the supercharge will stop working and turbo charge will then start working until redline.

There are twin turbos and twin scroll turbos today which has a smaller turbo for low RPM and bigger ones for higher RPM. This can already overcome turbo lag and reduce the complexity of both a supercharger and turbo in the same engine. If the end result ie flat torque curve and lower emissions while reducing complexity can be achieved with one twin scroll turbo charger why make it more complex?

The VW TSI engine is a great engine but technology moves on.

Like in VW Polo 1.2 tsi ?

Yes, I totally agree that we should move on with technology! Why complicate things when you can simplify it.

second that.. i dont think its a marketing gimmick, turbochargers have come a long way in these recent yrs.. n if vw says the new engine will be able 2 achieve similar performance wit juz a turbo, i very much believe em..

This will leads to lower resale value for 1.4 tsi models~

Not so. VW also came out with the single turbo 1.4TSi engine for regular models. It produces 121hp as opposed to 178hp with the twincharger but it's 14kg lighter & water cooled intercooler.

i will wait till i see more news on this subject, cos the brand new A1 thats launching soon is using the 1.4 twincharger, so unlikely it will be discontinued anytime soon

saying my car has supercharger and turbocharger is of course cooler than only turbocharger

the 1.4 turbo produce 122PS 200Nm
1.4twin 160PS 240Nm
the golf in other countries has these 2 engines
but i'm sure VW has no prob to use only turbo and got 160ps 240nm

plus max torque with the turbo arrives at 1700rpm or lower, hence there are no issue of supercharger needing to cover lower revs range

the reason why that engine uses super is because of the small size... like gti, with 2l the lower rpms is not a prob so the turbo is only needed for higher rpms

turbo gets good results also lar, if it is made to cater to low rpms... just that if u put a low rpm turbo at the high rpms will run out of juice... usually ppl get high rpm turbos because low end power usually solve with higher cc engine

true, but usually not in small engines.... at least 2 litre and above will benefit from twin turbos... for now twin-charger is still better in the 1.4 block

the 2.0 GTI is not twin-charged ?

current twin scroll turbos can spool up damn fast, u can get at least 50% of the torque at 1500rpm and is used especially for small displacement engines. it's super efficient, lightweight and simple. the supercharger is just not needed anymore (leave this to the big badass large displacements). u guys, go read some articles on the net before giving outdated comments here.