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ultra_nyamuk
post Jan 24 2011, 01:11 AM

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Guys i'm a total CC noob(never owned one)..i plan to get the OCBC Titanium MC. is it better to get cash rebates or get reward points? i wont spend that much, mostly on petrols only. of course some shopping..groceries...etc.. Another question is, is there a installment plan for OCBC Titanium MC ? if so, what is the interest rate and how do you count it? hmm..
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post Jan 24 2011, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 24 2011, 09:25 AM)
Cash rewards and reward points are more or less the same actually. Just that some banks offer much higher cash rewards (OCBC Titanium MasterCard comes to mind) or reward points (Maybankard 2 AMEX comes to mind).

By the way guys, i just found out that we can settle our 0% IPP with HSBC early without incurring any penalty charges  rclxms.gif  Guess i don't have to wait until next year to cut my HSBC MasterCard then.
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post Jan 31 2011, 01:44 PM

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Guys, i have a question. AFAIK, OCBC titanium MC dont have ezy payment plan (from the bank, not by merchants). So lets say i purchase something for RM 1000. Minimum monthly payment is 5%, RM50.
So, if i pay consistantly the minimum payment, i wont get charged the 13.5% pa interest right? and it will be like 0% month installment payment? is my understanding correct?
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post Jan 31 2011, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jan 31 2011, 01:49 PM)
Based on what you wrote above, you will be imposed interest and it will take you years to just off clear that RM1,000 transactions.

May I suggest you go read my blog on credit card 101, click link below:

http://creditcardsmalaysia.blogspot.com/20...rds-cc-101.html
ronnie: see what i meant.
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Hehe, what i meant is AT LEAST pay the minimum, but surely will be more so that it will take just a year or less than that. so, it means 1000 will directly X 13.5% even if i have a good record or payment?(consistantly paying more than min 5%)


Added on January 31, 2011, 2:01 pmOr is it
Jan : 1000X13.5 - payment = balance
Feb: balanceX13.5 - paymnt = balance
Mar: balanceX13.5 - paymnt = balance
..... so means the interest is charged monthly according to previous unsettled balance? i just want to know more before i get a credit card..and choosing which credit card. So, those banks that have 0% ezpayment means really 0% (by merchant) ?


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post Jan 31 2011, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jan 31 2011, 02:02 PM)
It is not like what you mentioned, 1000 x 13.5%. The interest is charged on daily basis on the outstnading amount. Lazy to show you example. If you don't pay minimum payment, not only you be imposed interest but it would affect your credit records and you kena late payment too. Always practice to pay in full and if need 0% installments, go to merchant that have this plan (but take note, you may be paying hgiher for it. E.g. I bought a leg massager 2 weeks back where shop having promotion and can do 0% installment, so I ask for discount and he said ok if I swipe in full, got about 10% off from promotion price, oh by the way, paid with Amex).

I think there should be an example in your CC statement, go read it.
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The thing is i dont have one at all smile.gif im still considering getting a CC or not. Actually i have a sup card, but i dont use it anymore. So, i wana cancel it and get one..and hopefuly utilize it to save some money and "spread" my finances...means using monthly payments so i can use the rest of my monthly income for other things(eg savings/investment) Right now considering between 2 cards OCBC and Maybankard2. Any advice on this ? smile.gif i did read your blog, but im trying to understand CC dynamics.
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post Jan 31 2011, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(hye @ Jan 31 2011, 02:24 PM)
If your idea of using cc is to "spread" your finances then better don't get one. (Frankly I don't like this word coz you are giving the idea it is a right thing to do to uninformed readers) Use cash coz whatever you are doing is the wrong way of managing your finances. You are not saving money but instead paying more via finance charges to the bank not to mention putting yourself @ risk from building unnecessary debt.

Use cc as you use cash ... pay and spend what you can afford. That's the true cc dynamics.
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Haha...i see people here are quite agitated. Ok, i get it smile.gif thats just my opinion of using the word "spread", people dont have to follow(i hope). I'm talking in context of 0% ez payments (but as Gen-X) has mentioned, might be paying more for it instead, but still no interest charged right? So far i think i have managed my money quite ok, no debts, overdrafts or things like that..
What i'm thinking is:
- if the CC fee can be waived(with min swipes..etc),
- no late payments.
- Rewards/cash rebates.
- 0% interest payment.
- rm50 gst is OK.
Then i can actually save? I dont mind people correcting me, i need to learn from experienced people.


Added on January 31, 2011, 2:37 pm
QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jan 31 2011, 02:28 PM)
ok, you got the idea with the second example e.g. outstanding balance x13.5%/12 (not really divide by 12 as interest imposed is on daily basis based on annual rate) 

if you really want to go for installements, there are more merchants offering 0% installment with Maybank than OCBC. when chosing a credit card, chose one that suits your lifestyle, like the other guy that uses OUB One Card. OCBC is good for groceries, utilities, dinning and petrol and for other stuff 1% cash back not too bad, but you just have to remember the max cash back is RM50.

As for spreading finances, well I don't know lah, when I was young (still practicing now), I only buy stuff (gadgets = toys) if I got the cash on hand.
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i got the cash in hand, but i wana use it for savings/investment. Haha, i know its not really a good practice....invest what's extra and what ur prepared to lose right? hehe

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post Jan 31 2011, 02:58 PM

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Thank you people! I appreciate all the comments and advices!
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post Jan 31 2011, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(erry- @ Jan 31 2011, 04:37 PM)
sorry about that. already edit.

its bcoz i want to separately reply for ultra_nyamuk. if combined then it will be a very long post.
but accidently replied u 1st. opening too many reply tabs sweat.gif
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Ok! Thanks for that! i understand more already about how CC interest works smile.gif


Added on January 31, 2011, 4:52 pm
QUOTE(erry- @ Jan 31 2011, 04:23 PM)
if i'm not mistaken, OCBC did have Flexi Payment Plan. call them for more info.
I contacted one OCBC card agent, she mentioned that the bank itself doesnt offer this service but will introduce it in the future(i wonder how long..haha) Yes, there is Flexi Payment Plan but only from selected merchants...which is quite little, ocbc not commonly accepted?


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post Jan 31 2011, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(hye @ Jan 31 2011, 04:57 PM)
You have already answered your own question.
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haha! But really, is not that widely accepted? or isit because its not a local bank? usually maybank a lot of places offer 0% EPP because local bank.
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post Feb 2 2011, 12:07 AM

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Guys, How about this? It's one of Maybankard Benefits right? Means it includes Maybankard2?
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So, how does it work? Same like the FC explained by Gen-x which is charged daily?

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post Feb 2 2011, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(erry- @ Feb 2 2011, 12:25 AM)
its not applicable for amex!
but my advise, dont use that. why u want to pay additional 9% interest p.a? sweat.gif
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u mean this is on top of your existing interest?
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post Feb 2 2011, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(erry- @ Feb 2 2011, 12:30 AM)
what i mean if u swipe rm5000 then just pay rm5000 on next due date.
why do u want to add rm450 or rm900 just to pay monthly (12 / 24) installment?

if u really want to do installment, then go find merchant/shop that offer installment for maybank.
no need to pay that extra 9% ~!

we use credit card to get extra money from bank (cashback / rebate), not give extra money (interest) to them! brows.gif
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ahh...great! i think i get it. It wont be charged like your other purchases if late payment. but item price x 9% / 12 or 24 = what you have to pay monthly right?
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post Feb 2 2011, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(erry- @ Feb 2 2011, 01:08 AM)
yes and no.

yes = item price + 9% then divide 12/24 months is what u need to pay monthly.
no = if u pay min payment only, then the installment balance will be charged with interest like other purchases!

u swipe rm5000, then convert to 24 months, u will be charged additional rm900 then monthly will be rm245.83.
meanwhile, u also swipe rm450 so ur total bill will be rm695.83 and u must pay this in full!

if u just pay rm50 (min payment), then not just rm645.83 will be charged with interest, but the installment remaining balance (rm5654.17) will be charged too!

u at 1st seems like want to 'save interest' on rm5000, but u already 'pay extra' rm900.
then, if u dont pay full, u will 'pay another extra' for the balance of that rm5900 (also for other purchases).

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so, again, pay all amount of statement balance. ok? notworthy.gif
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Ok, yeap i plan to pay full for monthly balance. hehe~ thanks! i think im gonna apply maybankard2 tmrw smile.gif

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