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post Feb 9 2011, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(erry- @ Feb 9 2011, 01:27 PM)
for me, CPP is insurance, but for ur credit card protection only, with 1 time payment.

its up2u actually want to subscribe or not.
if u, are the type of always checking ur wallet and credit card (physical and online banking), then no need.
means, if u noticed ur card is missing, u can call the bank immediately to block the card (before the card can be swipe out there).

it is better not to give credit card number when receiving call.
(ambank got case their cust received call from their helpline number 603-2178888, which is their real number, but that number only for receiving call, not calling! the caller actually is a scammer/thief).


Added on February 9, 2011, 1:29 pmmy advise is to tell the CS that give u a few minutes then u will call him/her back (ask their name or extension number).

call back using confirm real number (in ur example, as stated at the URL), not from the number they called u, and ask to talk with the agent that just called u (tell the name or extension number).

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sh1t lor!! i gave him de, coz he gave me his fullname, and also phone number (hotline shown on maybank website) along with extension to get back to him.

but giving 16 digit number + valid date also can get scammed one ah? coz i asked and he said, "dont worry, the only thing u shudnt give out is ur mother's maiden name and security number"

what should i do now bro? i kan chiong d -.-..i think ill call the hotline now ....pffft
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QUOTE(volrath @ Feb 9 2011, 01:35 PM)
sh1t lor!! i gave him de, coz he gave me his fullname, and also phone number (hotline shown on maybank website) along with extension to get back to him.

but giving 16 digit number + valid date also can get scammed one ah? coz i asked and he said, "dont worry, the only thing u shudnt give out is ur mother's maiden name and security number"

what should i do now bro? i kan chiong d -.-..i think ill call the hotline now ....pffft
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to make u feel better, its ok actually smile.gif

u can try to contact him back (just to verify) using the phone num and extenstion.

now, u need to always check ur credit card transaction (via online banking) and see if got unknown transaction.

to answer ur question about scam... yes possible, but rare sweat.gif

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post Feb 9 2011, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(erry- @ Feb 9 2011, 02:33 PM)
what do u mean with 'some credit card only provide BT for fresh application'?

some1 here mentioned he/she did CIMB BT for more than once.

btw for ur question, yes, when amount paid is higher than statement balance, the new balance will be negative.
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certain bank only offer 0% BT for new credit card applicant.
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QUOTE(wshoh @ Feb 9 2011, 10:28 AM)
My fiancée received a SMS from HSBC sometime last week wherein GST would be waived/absorbed by HSBC. Don't know if it is only for selected customers but one thing I can be sure of is that ever since I gave her a supplementary AMEX Gold CC, it became her primary card and the HSBC was only used (rarely) for dining offers or where AMEX is not accepted. Perhaps GST was waived to encourage card usage?
BTW, I also receive a Sorry Note from Poslaju yesterday (8.2.2011). They attempted to send my MBBKard 2 to my home - had actually requested (in writing) that MBB send the card to my office!

Somehow, AMEX CS isn't updated with the latest information as when I telephoned yesterday evening, I was told that the physical card is yet to be ready although it has been approved since 29.1.2011 and so I requested for self pick up at MBB HQ, Jalan Tun Perak. Anyway, shall wait for the card to be re-directed by Poslaju now. Hopeful to receive it this Friday so that I can use it on the weekend.
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if they send tru poslaju in my case is not a problem la? since my mother at home.
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post Feb 9 2011, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(ahucks @ Feb 9 2011, 03:02 PM)
if they send tru poslaju in my case is not a problem la? since my mother at home.
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Poslaju have several categories of delivery. In the event they mark that only the intended recipient can signature then your mother also cannot receive it on your behalf.

Guys ... appreciate all the contributors to this thread but for questions which you want to maneuver the cc system to create more debts (or anything basically could pose problems) then appreciate to just PM the senior guys here. It'll be horrifying if anyone use the information on this thread and dig a deeper financial problem.
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QUOTE(hye @ Feb 9 2011, 03:32 PM)
Poslaju have several categories of delivery. In the event they mark that only the intended recipient can signature then your mother also cannot receive it on your behalf.

Guys ... appreciate all the contributors to this thread but for questions which you want to maneuver the cc system to create more debts (or anything basically could pose problems) then appreciate to just PM the senior guys here. It'll be horrifying if anyone use the information on this thread and dig a deeper financial problem.
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owh ok, if like that, i'll need to take it by myself at the poslaju office if they mark as you mention above.
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Not exactly CC-specific but just found out when I paid via MasterCard online today that prompt payment of quit rent through online payment for Kuala Lumpur property is rewarded with a 5% discount.

Payment is possible through either Visa or MasterCard, in addition to internet banking. May as well pay through CC to earn some points/cashback.

Googled about the discount and found the following link: Five Per Cent Discount for Online Payment of Quit Rent in the Federal Territory

This post has been edited by wshoh: Feb 9 2011, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Feb 9 2011, 07:04 AM)
2. So far nobody reported that they got their GST waived with HSBC if not mistaken. If you do not want to pay GST then see if can cancel the card. Those of you not wiilling to pay the RM50 GST, don't apply for the card. Click here to read my old post on GST.
A guy claimed that a simple call to HSBC call centre will already be able to get the RM50 GST waived but i believe that guy was just bullshitting because i tried to find out with several different HSBC employees and was told there is no such thing.


QUOTE(wshoh @ Feb 9 2011, 10:37 AM)
Will post SMS contents from HSBC when possible - she is now overseas.
Yes. Please !


QUOTE(Gen-X @ Feb 9 2011, 10:50 AM)
that is good news for HSBC card  members. My dad and me did not receive such sms  sad.gif I rarely use my HSBC whereas my dad do use it (he has both Premier and Plat).
Do report back once your wife can confirm the GST is waived.
I did not receive such sms from HSBC either. I also rarely use my HSBC MasterCard since i received my Citibank VISA in December last year as the points required to redeem a RM100 shopping voucher from Citibank is lower than HSBC.

Oh by the way, do take note that HSBC does give a better exchange rate than Citibank in Taiwan.


QUOTE(erry- @ Feb 9 2011, 11:18 AM)
the simple answer is NO.

u cant BT more than outstanding (debt) of the card.
Actually, this is possible with HSBC 0% BT. I however do not recommend their 0% BT. Why ? Please search for my old post. It is here somewhere ...


QUOTE(wshoh @ Feb 9 2011, 12:39 PM)
MilesAndMore, you may wish to (a) reserve the 2nd post of Credit Card v15 for FAQs, (b) suggest that 1st time CC applicants with Degree look at DA (Direct Access @ CIMB) and © link erry-'s wiki (in forum style) OCBC Titanium Mastercard, all about this card
Or whoever starts the next version of the credit card thread smile.gif


QUOTE(timetravelller @ Feb 9 2011, 01:30 PM)
i just want to know the possibility of doing this way. if u can manage ur finance wisely, it could be wise to do that. i'm asking this because of some credit card only provide for 0% BT for fresh application. So if i got 2 credit card approve and definitely i have to utilize this advantage to enjoy the benefit of 0% interest for a period. If it were possible, then how does the statement look like? negative balance?
It is indeed possible with HSBC BT. You do not have to give them the statement of your credit card from another bank that you intend to do a BT to. Just give them the numbers and they will transfer the money out to the account. And yes, negative balance will be shown in your the other credit card account statement.


QUOTE(ahucks @ Feb 9 2011, 04:00 PM)
owh ok, if like that, i'll need to take it by myself at the poslaju office if they mark as you mention above.
From my experience is that credit card package sent out by both Maybank and American Express via Poslaju can be accepted by other people too. At least this was the case with my mom's AMEX Green Charge Card, Maybank Ikhwan Gold VISA and Maybankard Gold AMEX (the original Maybankard Gold AMEX).


QUOTE(wshoh @ Feb 9 2011, 04:11 PM)
Not exactly CC-specific but just found out when I paid via MasterCard online today that prompt payment of quit rent through online payment for Kuala Lumpur property is rewarded with a 5% discount.

Payment is possible through either Visa or MasterCard, in addition to internet banking. May as well pay through CC to earn some points/cashback.

Googled about the discount and found the following link: Five Per Cent Discount for Online Payment of Quit Rent in the Federal Territory
Not sure exactly if the discount given to quit rent in other states is different than Sabah's. Anyway, i get something like 5% or 10% discount every time i pay mine over the counter. Discount will only be given if i pay in full at lump sum.

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post Feb 9 2011, 05:16 PM

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Actually, this is possible with HSBC 0% BT. I however do not recommend their 0% BT. Why ? Please search for my old post. It is here somewhere ...

It is indeed possible with HSBC BT. You do not have to give them the statement of your credit card from another bank that you intend to do a BT to. Just give them the numbers and they will transfer the money out to the account. And yes, negative balance will be shown in your the other credit card account statement.

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enlighten me, i plan to perform 2 BT to 1 of my credit card and additional payment will be the advance payment. with the advance payment, i will cash it out. it is better a lot than personal loan.
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post Feb 9 2011, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(skincladalien @ Feb 9 2011, 12:52 PM)
wanna ask the min req salary for cards, lets say its 30,000p.a., and my company gives 13month salary, so i divide that amount with 13?

and also can i include fixed allowance(not basic pay/OT claim, etc) to that amount?
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RM30,000 p.a. means whatever income you get in a year. So yes, bonus is included and so are dividen, rental, allowances and OT etc. Easiest way to confirm your income per year is the amount in your BE form which is taxable. Or for people where their only source of income is from salary, the amount in Borang E.


QUOTE(wshoh @ Feb 9 2011, 12:39 PM)
Well said charymsylyn and hye. It didn't occur to me after the education I received here on how to take advantage of 0% BT (by depositing the funds meant for CC payment into FD instead) that a good number of people who visit this thread do not read through all the pages and live beyond their means.

Thus the many 0% IPP etc posts as well as the many repeated and tiring questions - I think we can post a standard reply next time "Please refer to Gen-X's blog."! "Please read the 1st post before posting" in the title doesn't seem to work.
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yes, my second and third post in my blog on BT was to share with other how to make more money from BT. I even mentioned doing BT for less than RM5K is a hassle and the interest you get from FD is negligible. As for 0% installment, I have mentioned many times (including here) that it is a trap by banks to make you spend more (when one don't even have the money on hand) and try not to recommend installment plan that have upfront interest because if you annualized it, the rate is damn high, better pay cash instead. And usually with installement plan you'll pay more where I have mentioned here and in my blog. When I go shopping, if the shop have 0% installment plan, next thing I ask is there further discount (speak to the supervisor the best) and sometimes the merchant will say yes but need swipe 1 go which is better as you will save money and this also applies to Harvey Norman for items costing more than RM2-3K.

QUOTE(hye @ Feb 9 2011, 03:32 PM)
Guys ... appreciate all the contributors to this thread but for questions which you want to maneuver the cc system to create more debts (or anything basically could pose problems) then appreciate to just PM the senior guys here. It'll be horrifying if anyone use the information on this thread and dig a deeper financial problem.
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it is saddening that many young people have debt problems arising from having credit cards. Wonder how many people actually read the link to Daljit Dhesi article in The Star which I posted in my blog on my 1st post on BT click here.. The article was in 2009 but it is a good read and if people actually absord the contents of the article and learn from others, they won't be in the sh*t hole now. I even mentioned that time is one does BT, it means he/she is living beyond his/her means as that time no 0% BT so need to pay interest.

The best advise for young people is by Dreamer - to have at least 6 months of expenses in savings for emergency. Well, if you don't have this, better not go get a credit card or even go for 0% installment plans as you never know in the future you may just need the few hundred ringgit you have committed to the bank.

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Can anyone login to Citibank Online? It failed for me, m using their credit card service.
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QUOTE(timetravelller @ Feb 9 2011, 01:47 PM)
certain bank only offer 0% BT for new credit card applicant.
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never heard like this sweat.gif


Added on February 9, 2011, 7:17 pm
QUOTE(timetravelller @ Feb 9 2011, 05:16 PM)
enlighten me, i plan to perform 2 BT to 1 of my credit card and additional payment will be the advance payment. with the advance payment, i will cash it out. it is better a lot than personal loan.
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AFAIK, u cant cashout advanced payment? hmm.gif

example, just example, if ur RHB debt now is rm5.1k, u do BT to CIMB and HSBC, both 6 months.
and just let say, both bank approved ur BT, ur RHB will received rm10.2k, and new balance will be negative rm5.1k (-rm5.1k).
u cant cashout that rm5.1k, u need to swipe till the negative become positive amount.
in the end u still need to pay rm1700/month (rm850 x 2 = bank).

again, above is just example!
but RHB is CONFIRMED cant cashout negative balance (i had experienced regarding fraud, do search my old post).

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QUOTE(erry- @ Feb 9 2011, 07:08 PM)
never heard like this sweat.gif
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yes there is.
OCBC offers 0% BT to new Titanium cardmembers only.
Almost every OCBC Ti cardholder is new-to-bank because OCBC is not popular in cc market.
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QUOTE(timetravelller @ Feb 9 2011, 05:16 PM)
enlighten me, i plan to perform 2 BT to 1 of my credit card and additional payment will be the advance payment. with the advance payment, i will cash it out. it is better a lot than personal loan.
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I think the key word in the relevant portion of MilesAndMore's reply is "Please search for my old post. It is here somewhere ..."

Anyway, I will indulge you simply because Miles' experience with HSBC which he shared in the BT thread was beneficial to my brother who took up HSBC's offer - only to realise after I explained HSBC's BT mechanics to him, that if he continues using his HSBC card, he will need to make full payment of the statement balance (of the month wherein the BT sum is reflected) as well as the BT sum if he is to avoid the interest trap on purchases made in the aforesaid statement month.

The relevant post is Post #378 as below:

QUOTE(YJC @ Jan 19 2011, 04:13 PM)
No processing or upfront charges.
Different bank different procedures. For HSBC, we base on hierarchy payment. Meaning if you make payment, the payment will go to balance transfer then IPP then only to your retail purchases. So it is advisable not to use your card on retail purchases if you have any IPP or Balance Transfer on your card.
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jan 19 2011, 01:41 PM)
well, I got a call from HSBC today offering me BT so took the opportunity to ask about what MilesAndMore mentioned. Well if you got like installment, autodebit , etc with your HSBC account, there is a hierarchy on how your payment is made. The girl keep saying no need worry as my record doesn't have any outstanding balance or plans which makes me wonder why would I have problems?. Better to go with CIMB where they create a new separate account for BT approved.
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In fact, YJC having corresponded with you personally by PM here, I would think that you already know how HSBC's BT works. You really take the cake...!

The long and short of it, for BT (as of 9.2.2011), best to take up DA/CIMB 0% offer where a separate a/c is created for the BT sum in which you only need to pay the 5% min payment for the 1st 5 months until the final (6th) month where you will need to pay in full. Before the MBB 12 months BT plan questions flood in, allow me to pre-empt the same by answering that the MBB BT plan divides the BT sum into 12 equal instalments cool2.gif

Gen-X's example is here

To illustrate why Gen-X said it is too much of a hassle to do a 'small' BT to make money through FD placement, well, I just placed a FD with AmBank today for RM5,000.00 on a month to month basis. The interest rate is only 2.75% and that means for RM5,000.00, you will only get RM137.50 (simple calculation only here, no compounding effect etc) provided the interest rate remains. That translates to only RM11.45 per month. IMHO, it is only worth it if you get at least RM50.00 for your time to fax the BT application form and follow up by telephone (to ensure that the BT sum is paid promptly).

Again, thank you Miles (on behalf of my brother).

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QUOTE(chemistry @ Feb 9 2011, 07:22 PM)
yes there is.
OCBC offers 0% BT to new Titanium cardmembers only.
Almost every OCBC Ti cardholder is new-to-bank because OCBC is not popular in cc market.
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QUOTE(timetravelller @ Feb 9 2011, 05:16 PM)
enlighten me, i plan to perform 2 BT to 1 of my credit card and additional payment will be the advance payment. with the advance payment, i will cash it out. it is better a lot than personal loan.
I assume you never get any sms from HSBC about their 0% BT offer ? Then there is no point to consider it as you are not eligible for their 0% BT offer. Only those who have received sms from HSBC are entitled for it.


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Can anyone login to Citibank Online? It failed for me, m using their credit card service.
Yes. I can.

Anyway, anyone knows how does the point system for Citibank regular credit card works ? I just got a regular Citibank VISA in December last year. The first statement came out in early January. The total outstanding was RM2820.89 and got 2770 CitiRewards points. However, i actually received 5096 (points earned) + 10888 (bonus points) this month, much to my surprise. Any idea what is it so ? Only RM5096.78 was charged to my Citibank VISA last month and i did not shop at any of the stores that Citibank is giving 5x CitiRewards Points last month. Where did all these bonus points came from ?

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QUOTE(erry- @ Feb 9 2011, 07:08 PM)
never heard like this sweat.gif
There are/were indeed such deals. Besides the one mentioned by chemistry, HSBC is the other bank that had such deal.


QUOTE(wshoh @ Feb 9 2011, 07:23 PM)
Again, thank you Miles (on behalf of my brother).
No problem ! smile.gif




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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Feb 9 2011, 09:25 PM)
I assume you never get any sms from HSBC about their 0% BT offer ? Then there is no point to consider it as you are not eligible for their 0% BT offer. Only those who have received sms from HSBC are entitled for it.
Yes. I can.

Anyway, anyone knows how does the point system for Citibank regular credit card works ? I just got a regular Citibank VISA in December last year. The first statement came out in early January. The total outstanding was RM2820.89 and got 2770 CitiRewards points. However, i actually received 5096 (points earned) + 10888 (bonus points) this month, much to my surprise. Any idea what is it so ? Only RM5096.78 was charged to my Citibank VISA last month and i did not shop at any of the stores that Citibank is giving 5x CitiRewards Points last month. Where did all these bonus points came from ?

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There are/were indeed such deals. Besides the one mentioned by chemistry, HSBC is the other bank that had such deal.
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i didn't receive sms from hsbc coz i'm not hsbc consumer ma. however for new application, they offer 0% BT. so the hassle thing u refer is hsbc will debit 1/6 of the amount to ur account and this 1/6 are the min. repayment of the month?


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QUOTE(wshoh @ Feb 9 2011, 08:23 PM)
I think the key word in the relevant portion of MilesAndMore's reply is "Please search for my old post. It is here somewhere ..."

Anyway, I will indulge you simply because Miles' experience with HSBC which he shared in the BT thread was beneficial to my brother who took up HSBC's offer - only to realise after I explained HSBC's BT mechanics to him, that if he continues using his HSBC card, he will need to make full payment of the statement balance (of the month wherein the BT sum is reflected) as well as the BT sum if he is to avoid the interest trap on purchases made in the aforesaid statement month.

The relevant post is Post #378 as below:
See also:
In fact, YJC having corresponded with you personally by PM here, I would think that you already know how HSBC's BT works. You really take the cake...!

The long and short of it, for BT (as of 9.2.2011), best to take up DA/CIMB 0% offer where a separate a/c is created for the BT sum in which you only need to pay the 5% min payment for the 1st 5 months until the final (6th) month where you will need to pay in full. Before the MBB 12 months BT plan questions flood in, allow me to pre-empt the same by answering that the MBB BT plan divides the BT sum into 12 equal instalments  cool2.gif

Gen-X's example is here

To illustrate why Gen-X said it is too much of a hassle to do a 'small' BT to make money through FD placement, well, I just placed a FD with AmBank today for RM5,000.00 on a month to month basis. The interest rate is only 2.75% and that means for RM5,000.00, you will only get RM137.50 (simple calculation only here, no compounding effect etc) provided the interest rate remains. That translates to only RM11.45 per month. IMHO, it is only worth it if you get at least RM50.00 for your time to fax the BT application form and follow up by telephone (to ensure that the BT sum is paid promptly).

Again, thank you Miles (on behalf of my brother).
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actually i made 2 application at 2 different bank. so in case 2 of them approved, then the 2 BT may run concurrently.

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QUOTE(timetravelller @ Feb 9 2011, 09:01 PM)
i didn't receive sms from hsbc coz i'm not hsbc consumer ma. however for new application, they offer 0% BT.
I think the 0% BT for newly approved cards promotion had expired last year.


QUOTE(timetravelller @ Feb 9 2011, 09:01 PM)
so the hassle thing u refer is hsbc will debit 1/6 of the amount to ur account and this 1/6 are the min. repayment of the month?
What ? Sorry. I don't really understand what you're trying to ask.


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MBB2 cards currently have problem with Verified by visa... I can't make payment to merchant who requires 3d secure code..

I had registered my verified by visa pin, however, when I try to make payment, I am not able to get to the page to enter VBV pin. (the page was skipped automatically)

On the other hand, my visa petronas works perfectly, no problem.


Called up MBB just now. THis has been confirmed by MBB Platinum customer service..
"It affects 3d secure transaction, but for merchant without 3d secure, the transactions are not affected. our IT team is rectifying it, we expect it to be on the track soon"


Not happy with it.

Any people here experiencing the same thing?
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i want to know about citibank cc

i have a 0% easy payment scheme for dell computers. got a remaining 4 months installments

can i settle all at one go? how?
because card annivesary coming in 3 months an i wan cancel it

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