Tong Eng at Komtar...good service, reasonable pricing...

can you define `workmanship?' (saved for precious metal of course?). In what way is ORIS `workmanship' better than Rolex? Would love to hear your personal experience on this. Dont own a Oris but i always liked the LE Swiss Hunter.

i am currently bitten by a Rolex bug.....i've always thought those who wear Rolex are just rich people flaunting their wealth, etc, etc. But i've come to learn how wrong i was. There are a lot of Rolex owners out there who told me, there's a lot of horological value in owning a rolex- the movement, history, and especially the quality. Meaning people who pay for a Rolex not because of recognition or insecurity but because they have came to realize the quality this brand brings. Now this is important to me because 1 Rolex = few Oris/Ball/Seiko/even preowned Omega pieces. So I am still learning, what extra do i get from having a Rolex...

So it will be refreshing for me to learn/hear opinion about Oris having same level of workmanship with Rolex.

This post has been edited by nando: Jul 27 2011, 02:40 PM

you mean you saw an inferior buckle on ONE piece of Rolex? That's it? That's the comparison of Oris vs Rolex workmanship you mentioned earlier?

This post has been edited by nando: Jul 27 2011, 04:45 PM

when you state earlier that `316L grade stainless steel is used exclusively on ORIS timepieces' you're implying 316L is only used in ORIS.

that's why few forummers here are politely trying to correct you....be it with kind words or with cute smileys..


I am still interested to learn more about your elaboration of Oris workmanship equal or better than Rolex...any particular Oris , Rolex model you're comparing to?

you from Penang, Chino730?

This post has been edited by nando: Jul 27 2011, 09:33 PM

thanks for the kind gesture...yep...tons of resources on ORIS...plenty of forums and ownership experience.....i read quite a a few of them...even Friends of Oris..

but rarely (or never) have i seen anyone sharing Oris workmanship is as good as Rolex...that's why i am really interested to hear further sharings from you on this matter

This post has been edited by nando: Jul 27 2011, 09:50 PM

yep, that's quite a famous review.....many agree with the facts....(what he saw) but were not happy with his opinion (what he feels)...lots of debate after the article....good reading material...
here's one....
http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f...&st=0&sk=t&sd=a


This post has been edited by nando: Jul 27 2011, 11:28 PM

recall this...but too late....
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.ph...pic,3590.0.html

JW always got good price...but i heard its impossible to buy from them...good ones are snapped up very quickly....by walk in customers at their Singapore outlet...

This post has been edited by nando: Jul 27 2011, 11:54 PM

yeah...one good thing about MWF sales is the fact that majority sellers are fellow forummers who are flipping or selling to go for a new grail....
so can buy with more confidence...especially first time buyers who dont have much confidence is buying preowned or online....

good luck on ur hunt and dont forget to share photos...

always see a lot of Corum for sale here...

collectorstime.com

Interesting comment CHiNo...

I was on hunt for Panerai too...never really bothered to look into Rolex as I've always labeled the brand as a `loud' watch that is primarily purchased by people seeking attention and recognition.

and yet...few months ago, I asked myself..`okay...what's the big deal about a rolex'...and started reading, asking questions, looking at the real thing...and the outcome?

I found out that for every 2-3 person that wears a gold-plated diamond decorated Rolex to gain attention, there is a normal street person who dilligently saved $$ for many months, just to get a pre-owned no -nonsense no-date classic Submariner.
Working class people who fell in love with a Rolex...an Explorer, a Sub, a Pepsi, even the Date-just...

Why? i was curious..and i kept on reading and asking more questions...

In a nutshell, i found out that the design, the innovation, the quality, the history.......there is such a powerful force to own a Rolex......and this force is present in many of these watch lovers.......those who wear watches with an appreciation of history, movement, pricing, etc.... not just a lover of luxury....


now i am hooked...and saving for my first Rolex...definitely not a brand new, but a preowned....

I am no Rolex expert or historian, but i do know i should own one, to continue my hobby..!

and CK 77..i blame you for playing a part in getting me hooked!

No offense to IWC or Panerai....wouldnt mind owning one in future..... I actually considered a 000 or the Pilot Chrono..but now, its taken over by a Rolex...

I was surprised by my U turn....but that's what so nice about this hobby...it never fail to surprise you....

I am now telling myself, do not attempt to educate myself about Grand Seikos or the Spring Drives...hahaha!

This post has been edited by nando: Aug 1 2011, 07:03 PM

pics like this la......getting me hooked...
so you got do anything extra to get the patina come out faster?

Oris? well, lets not reopen old battle wounds...

i think they're looking even beyond Rolex now...........many of them are even familiar with the octagon dial of APs...

This post has been edited by nando: Aug 2 2011, 08:35 AM

hehehe..the original `uncle'..

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Added on August 2, 2011, 10:34 pmany watch shop selling Casio should have Edifice? not entirely familiar with the Casio lineup. If they dont have, just ask the towkay to show you catalogue or place an order i think...

This post has been edited by nando: Aug 2 2011, 10:44 PM

A perfect collection is when the owner have spent time to understand the background of the watch he's buying and most important of all, the pieces bring pride and joy to him.

At risk of attracting criticisms, even a box full of different series of F1 Tags or other F1 themed pieces can be considered his own perfect collection, if the owner loves every piece and have come a long way to make this the chosen theme of his collection, then its a perfect collection to him...

but gotta admit..those PAMS in the box look delicious...

well, since we into drooling into other people's collection......here's one place.....
take out the tissues...

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f381/hi-ends-...ead-352840.html


This post has been edited by nando: Aug 5 2011, 03:57 PM

Its Friday afternoon, so maybe i am allowed the leisure of day dreaming...


if I have endless supply of cash....i think the theme of my collection will be complications......JLC, Pateks, IWCs...busy dials, the more complicated the better.....moon, PRD, perpetual, date, chrono, 2nd time, etc, etc, etc..

i sometimes wonder..if one of them malfunction, how much will the trip to AD for repair will cost...

This post has been edited by nando: Aug 5 2011, 04:03 PM

i was the last to post on F1 Tags..but ..i have 1 too...the orange chrono....and i love it...

This post has been edited by nando: Aug 5 2011, 06:10 PM

congrats, some wrist shots will be nice..

yep, i was give same advice many times...re-setting a moon phase can be a nuisance...although i find it hard to believe especially if you're doing in on an iconic piece...

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Added on August 5, 2011, 11:44 pmyeah, many may buy Rolex because they assume them to be a symbol of luxury and even elevation in status..
but decades of development has gone into the household names of Rolex watches we hear today...Sub, GMT,
these watches were designed to be supremely rugged, stylish and yet practical, elegant time pieces that ignites the passion of countless watch lovers who truly understand and appreciate what Rolex is...

somehow, along the way, the brand became sought after by pimps, rappers and over-night millionaires.....

that's the enigma of owning a Rolex i guess.....the pain of seeing the price increase 2x a year, the association of the brand with old uncles and status symbols...and yet, wear a Rolex in front of true watch lovers...and they will tell you why the brand is so loved...




This post has been edited by nando: Aug 5 2011, 11:44 PM

all the best...as patryn said..Steinhart is not bad brand....the Chrono desgin (Navy, Aviation) are nice...i think there's a special forum dedicated to Steinhart...at watchuseek.com...do read more..