as we know that "successful trade list" can indicate genuine & trustable sellers by the number of success trades to ensure the buyer getting the product as expected... i wondering how to indicate buyers are genuine & trustable too as they have no loss to playing fool around here... the buyers may deal several with other sellers here before, but still doesn't means buyers are 99% genuine & trustable...

as my case, usually no deposit required as concerned the total amount are small, but buyers confirmed his orders before my bulk stock collection... if there have any cancellation from buyers even though stock collected, i ok on it as i will stop follow up the deal... the buyers still online into LYN forum and i tried to PM several times for deal but no reply and ignored and refuse to deal... i don't think they are blind as LYN forum will prompt new message at their interface and their email inbox definitely will receive a notice too... so the stock i collected and reduce cash flow as i'm no running a business with capital and dilemma that when i can get the cash back with slow movement stock...

as for those sellers collected deposit but buyer FFK, won't consider as unsuccessful trade as they getting small amount profit from FFK buyer for their loss...

for this small unsuccessful trade, no point to discuss it under dispute zone as not major loss or conman concerned... at least with this existence of this thread, seller & buyer will look on online transaction seriously... just my 2cents...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Jan 13 2011, 09:31 AM

same happen with mine , many FFK.., i faint

If u are talking about FFK issues ... we have a thread for FFK. So u can report FFK buyers or seller in that thread.

Unsuccessful Trade have many other reasons except FFK. So if u want, u can include your own unsuccessful trade to your trade lists.

We can't run away from FFK one... there are many and people tend to change mind easily if they found other better items or better deals from other sellers or buyers.

So, it is always recommended to take some deposit if u are not sure when u will be able to re-sell your items. To order the item 1st without the deposit , u need to deal base on trust but you won't be sure the buyer will pay or not after you've placed the order lo...

This post has been edited by Strawberry<3: Jan 13 2011, 12:38 PM

assumed the buyer tended to buy item A from seller 1, seller 2 and seller 3, buyer for sure will ask for best price from all the sellers before confirmation, so buyer decided to buy from seller 2 as better deal and the seller 2 do stock collection for buyer even though re-confirm about the deal, but buyer FFK and playing fool around here

usually i wont take deposit as i want to make my customer comfortable and i can't 100% commit when i can take stock and when i can COD due to personal daily activities... unless big amount concerned then i will take certain deposit instead...

i saw that "FFK issues" but seem quite complicated with full bunch of story preferably as short as "successful trade list" thread but only with name, date, item, reasons (as short as possible)...

anyway, i'm fine if anyone felt this request quite irrelevant and preferably stick to "FFK issues"

This post has been edited by gkl83: Jan 13 2011, 01:06 PM

Sometimes ... they suddenly no money or feel like don't want anymore...

I also kena before.. when they want to buy they will promise 100% will pay.. once we ordered and items arrive, they will pretend nothing happened.. have to pm and ask many many many times until finally they paid.

So from now on... take deposit 1st .. if lets say no stock later then u can refund to them. but make sure u tell them and they agreed to the terms and conditions.


Well, u can put up the unsuccessful to your successful list..

then just be frank and honest about this condition via a PM, then i will stop to follow up immediately and release the items to other forumers if they intereted... no cancellation informed and forced to reserve his items without single reply, later buyer say he want to item to be deliver suddenly but i sold it...

next time u give him dateline. like if he no reply within 3 days u will sell the item to another person. And if he no reply, it is meant that he agrees to it.

wasnt easy to sell as i selling wide range of models depend on each user's setup requirements...
especially those buyer request for few quantity of slow movement stocks, stock holding on my hand but dont know when i can clear all of them...

like that very pening ... next time MUST ask from deposit le..

now ma keep pm that guy lo.. if possible then post up his name in forum or find him in facebook.. let the whole world knows then he will feel ashame and pay later...

become like ah long

i wont behave like that, otherwise there have no differences with that FFK guy...
anyway, he still ignored my 4th PM even though he online when 6pm just now... his name under my FFK list now...