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post Jan 11 2011, 12:36 AM

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ARSHAVIN BACKED BY WENGER

Arsene Wenger maintains it will not be long before Arsenal fans again see the best of Andrey Arshavin.

The Russian midfielder was handed his first start in three matches for Saturday's FA Cup third-round tie against npower Championship side Leeds, which ended 1-1 at the Emirates Stadium after captain Cesc Fabregas fired in a last-minute penalty.

The outcome, however, could have been so different had Arshavin converted a golden opportunity to put the Gunners ahead on 11 minutes after he was played clean through on goal by Tomas Rosicky.

But in what would turn out to be a sign of things to come, Leeds keeper Kasper Schmeichel made a smart save and Arsenal were left frustrated.

Arshavin, and also Nicklas Bendtner, found themselves jeered by some sections of the home crowd after time and again promising moves broke down.

Wenger, though, has every confidence Arshavin will soon display the top-class football he is capable of on a regular basis.

"The fans were frustrated. That comes from when you don't win," the Arsenal manager said.

"The fans are demanding. We were not consistent technically and so they picked on our inconsistencies. "It is not through a lack of desire with Arshavin. He wants to do well.

"He took one touch too many with his first chance and the keeper did well to save another shot he had.

"Every player during a season has strong and weaker periods and he has had a weaker period, then two or three weeks on the bench."

Wenger continued: "I have no worries that Arshavin will come back into the team, but their confidence does suffer a little bit from that.

"We try to analyse our games in an objective way and I am lucky because our players are self critical, they analyse themselves well and they want to do well. "

Wenger felt Saturday's game showed the FA Cup has not lost any of its romance.

After weathering an early storm, Leeds went ahead from the penalty spot through Robert Snodgrass at the start of the second half when Denilson upended Max Gradel.

Indeed, the Championship side could have doubled their lead but for a fine reaction save from Wojciech Szczesny from Luciano Becchio's point-blank header.

Eventually, though, Arsenal pressure was rewarded when substitute Theo Walcott - who admitted he had earlier dived to try to win a spot-kick - was tugged back by Ben Parker.

Fabregas, who was also brought off the bench, stepped up to fire the penalty past Schmeichel.

The Leeds keeper also denied Denilson with a brilliant one-handed save to ensure the Yorkshire side earned a replay.

"Leeds played a good cup game and that is the tradition of the English game," said Wenger.

"They came here, they gave everything and credit to Leeds because they did well."

Centre-back Johan Djourou admitted the Arsenal players were relieved their FA Cup dream had not been ended.

"It is good to still be in the cup because we were 1-0 down and under pressure, but we showed good character to still be in the cup and now we go there to try and win it," the Swiss international said.

"We have to deal with all the extra game, the manager says he wants to win all the competitions so we have to go there and win."

Djourou added: "Theo is a great player, and he gets you in the game, Cesc as well, when he came on.

"We showed we have the players that can make a difference."

There is little respite for Arsenal as they head to Ipswich on Wednesday night for the first leg of their Carling Cup semi-final.

Wenger admits if Sebastien Squillaci's hamstring problem fails to clear up quickly, then, given Thomas Vermaelen is still not yet match fit, he will have to move in the transfer market.

"If we only have two centre-backs then that cannot work with the number of centre-backs we have," the Arsenal manager said.

"If Squillaci has a problem then we must quickly go out for a player."

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8...6647792,00.html
i wonder why some fans not satisfy with arshavin contribution to the team.... his EPL statistic shows us that he has 9 assists (only nani & chris bunt ahead of him in EPL) & 4 goals this season...i think with that statistics can consider a good contribution already... form is temporary guys...but his class is permanent... & statistic doesn't lie... thumbup.gif

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post Jan 13 2011, 12:18 AM

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hmm... wenger should look at chris samba... he's unhappy at blackburn now & already request for transfer...


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++ points for him are he knows premiership tempo & rough style very well since he's been at rovers quite a few seasons already & his height of 196cm is consider desirable for a centre back. he's still 26 years old..(& french speaker as well,..hahaha)

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post Jan 23 2011, 12:42 AM

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rvp hattrick !!
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post Jan 31 2011, 10:41 AM

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once ramsey ready to enter first team squad, we should sell denilson.... he belongs to team like everton, aston villa or newcastle... not arsenal....
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QUOTE(Phonzy @ Jan 31 2011, 03:59 PM)
The big news of the day so far is that Tottenham have made a club-record £38 million bid for Atletico Madrid striker Sergio Aguero... and have bid fir a number of other La Liga strikers, including Fernando Llorente.
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where spurs get the financial ability to bid & buy players ?? their chairman rich aaaa ??
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Arsenal not looking to buy but may recall loaned out youngsters due to Samir Nasri injury - Arsene Wenger

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has revealed he may have to recall some of his players who are out on loan after losing Samir Nasri to injury and Sebastien Squillaci to suspension during their 2-1 win over Huddersfield in the FA Cup.

The Gunners were made to work hard for their place in the fifth round of the cup after going down to 10 men in the first half when Squillaci brought down Jack Hunt after the midfielder's mazy run.

They also lost Samir Nasri to a hamstring injury, which makes him a doubt for the Champions League tie against Barcelona.

And Wenger revealed he may have to look into bringing some of his loaned out youngsters back to the Emirates to boost his squad.

He told reporters: "I will look at the option of recalling some loan players.

"People like Jay Emmanuel-Thomas and Henri Lansbury could come back.

"Kyle Bartley is slightly different because he has never played in the Premier League so it could be difficult."

But Wenger insisted it was not likely he would sign anyone in the remaining few days of the transfer window, despite losing Nasri and Squillaci and having doubts about Denilson's fitness.

He added: "No, we will not sign anyone. I cannot say definitely because if someone knocks at my door tomorrow and says 'I want to play for you' and he is a good player I will sign him."

Arsenal were stretched to the limit against their League One opponents and for long periods look like they would lose their record of never being beaten by lower league opposition during Wenger's reign.

But thanks to a last-gasp Cesc Fabregas penalty the Gunners sealed their place in the fifth round, leaving Wenger's unbeaten cup record against lower league opponents intact.

Wenger said: "[The record] shows how seriously we take the cup, but usually I get questioned about that.

"It was tough, tough, tough today and typical of a cup game.

"We were below par today but Huddersfield are a good team, who were dangerous from crosses and set-pieces.

"At 1-1 and down to 10 men the record was seriously under threat but in the end we had the quality just to make the difference."

The Frenchman also questioned Mark Clattenburg's decision to send-off Squillaci but feared the worst at the time.

He added: "I think the sending off was a bit harsh. Was he the last man?

"There was a long way to the goal but it was a foul and I feared a red card and in the end it was given."
Source: http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premie...call-loaned-out

what a joke... i believe in wenger in certain thing.... but our players run out of steam & injured....

do people like Jay Emmanuel-Thomas and Henri Lansbury, Kyle Bartley or Craig Eastmond good enough to compete with the best name in world football such as Messi, Puyol, Rooney, Drogba, Torres, Ronaldo ??

we must get at least some decent players in certain positions (preferably from EPL as well) to cover for our first team.... NOT to recall unproven youngsters to play againts barcelona, man.utd, real madrid & chelsea....

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QUOTE(minority @ Jan 31 2011, 07:11 PM)
You do know that Barcelona does the same and pulls in youth whenever needed, right?

Also, buying players is a long term action. Remember that January to March are usually harsher on the schedules. So we shouldn't buy (long-term) just for the sake of a few months of tighter games (short-term).

I'd rather have hungry youths trained with our system to play a few months rather than spend inflated prices (January prices are always higher) on players that you have to take a few months to make them fit into our system, by which time there would be less need for them.
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who cares about price inflated dude ?? its not the question of short term or long term fixed (if the mid-age player pretty effective in a short term, i see no reason why he couldnt be effective in long-term, since he still has have of his career to go) ...by hook or by crook we must compete (i use the word compete becoz its been 6 trophyless years..so better be realistic) till the end... i doubt with our youths (whose wenger wants to recall back from loan) are good enough to even compete with the highest level of football... i believe arsenal have the funds to buy players... but this french league player pasar malam buying & inexperience youth fielding aren't really working... we must have balance & depth... just to throw a few names regardless their price, g.cahill,c.samba,arteta (all mid-age or near peak players whose still has a lot to offer)... i believe those experienced EPL players could add depth to the current weary first team squad...

p/s: short term fixed sometime pretty useful as well...remember hendrik larrson signed for man.utd couple of seasons ago... he made quite an impact....
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QUOTE(minority @ Jan 31 2011, 09:33 PM)
I honestly didn't notice Denilson that much, although  Ithought he did mostly okay, except for one horror pass back to a striker stationed between two of our centrebacks.
Inflated prices is extremely important. When we pay for something we expect to get the same value back. I won't pay RM20 for nasi lemak of a quality I can get at RM3 (depending where you live, of course).

UEFA Financial Fairplay rules will kick in soon and Arsenal's prudent financial management puts it way ahead of any other club of conforming. Where other clubs' spending habit will mean they have to endure a massive shock to the system by cost cutting just to comply, Arsenal is already ready.

Another aspect is risk. Buying an eventual flop for £5 million vs. buying an eventual flop for £10 million are two different prospects and two degrees of risk. The January inflated price will increase our risk.

So yes, we must care about inflated prices.

In terms of long-term squad depth, Arsene has already said that at some point, we'll come back to having 4 centrebacks for example. This means that buying another long term will leave us with 5.

I would concede guys like Cahill might help, but at the end of the season, when we won't overpay for him. Arteta is a no-no. Don't think he'll fit in the system.

P.S. You mentioned Henrik Larsson (what a don). He was a loanee. Arsene has said himself that he would consider short-term loans as solution, so he's not discounting a Larsson-type deal. However, again, it has to be at a right price for the right quality. Larsson came cheaper because he was playing for a relatively poorer Swedish club, for which the Mancs didn't need to pay too much of a loan fee. He was also a seasoned veteran who was playing top class football just 2 seasons prior.

Now how many seasoned vets who had just played top level football 2 seasons ago do you know that can come in for cheap? I personally can't think of many. We can't get our Larsson unless there is one to be had.
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just wanna reply specifically on your post... of the nasi lemak can patch the missing link to trophies why not rm50 also i'll buy... u miss my point... the problem is very clear.. we lack of depth in current squad...towards the end of the season when the squad players got injured, weary, out of form(arshavin),red carded & bla bla bla.... 2nd half of the season is the most important period for club fighting for honours....everybody knows arsenal lack of depth of first team squad ... dont tell me we want to call upon rookie youngsters (who never made first appearances), to play in a top level match... i would rather close my tv if we been battered by barcelona or any other top teams if we play understrength team coz we all know for sure we'll lose disastrously ... why worry about inflated price gap to normal price ?? we already made money from toure & adebayor sales...plus at the end people can only talk about it... if we win somemajor trophies its great, gamble paid off...but if not, nothing much & get on with new season..after all we haven't won anything with this policy for the last 6 years which lead to some of our influential players heading out of the club...

u must be quite a tinker la dude.. for me just sign any decent & proven players (preferably EPL player) to cover for first team rather than have to play alex song out of position at centre back... i agree some short term deal might be not as successful but that the job for the manager to identify who is the best to sign for short term & can patch the missing link... who cares at the end of the season we've 5 centre backs ?? what's important is between now & towards to end of the season... if at the end of the season we have 5 centrebacks good la we have depth...if we feel overloaded with 5 centrebacks, just sell the worst one la...the number will reduce to 4 again... smile.gif
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QUOTE(leymar7 @ Feb 1 2011, 12:04 PM)
yup..our team chemistry is on highh
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the important question, could it sustain until may ??
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QUOTE(leymar7 @ Feb 1 2011, 03:41 PM)
my question,you dont believe in arsenal huh? yess ofcourse they can!!
we're by far the greatest team  rclxms.gif

i hope liverpool take their places back.
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u're excited becoz we're still in all competitions this season... but it'll end if we couldn't sustain.. i have believe in this team but we must also have depth and balance to fight for honours.....there's weak link in the team which need to be patch up... continuous improvement is important...
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QUOTE(minority @ Feb 1 2011, 04:57 PM)
You seem to think our lack of depth is critical and life-or-death. It's not. We could do with some more depth, but it's not so critical as to spend RM50 on. Certainly not critical enough to break our business model on. Arsenal's negotiators are known to be tough and we've cultivated that reputation, if we show the willingness to spend ludicrous amounts of money, the agents will start seeing us as Man City types. That is NOT good. Ivan Gazidis has said this before, our stance means agents approach us with caution, instead of starting with the highest demands possible. This is an advantage. Buying the RM50 nasi lemak will break this.

I would honestly call upon youngsters who understand our system over paying inflated prices for someone on the short-term, i.e. second half of the season. Remember that fixture congestions will only be a massive issue this month and a bit of the next, after that, normal service resumes and our squad depth is entirely sufficient. Yes, it may not be the best, asking Song to cover in the CB, but this is short-term only. Vemaelen will eventually return, and if we want another CB we can wait until the summer when prices are a lot more sensible. Nasi lemak will cost RM5 again.

You seem to think that winning is important above Arsenal's business model, which is actually one of the core defining policies of our club ever since Arsene's reign began (and even before, we were quite prudent). We've not won anything now, but all the trophies we've won previously wasn't won with money, but a good use of bargains.

Right now, our youth policy is paying more dividends. Barca's current cantera philosophy experienced a change under Cruyff in the early 90s and success took time. Arsenal can do the same, but it takes patience and long-term thinking. Spending big on the short-term only serves to undermine our long-term goals.

Finally, as someone told you before, our centre backs are not just numbers (4 of them, 5 of them), they are humans. If you've ever tried managing humans, you'd know it's not as easy as buying, selling, hiring, firing. Look at the seconds string fielded against Huddersfield, they were obviously rusty. That's the hardest part of rotation. Try giving game time with an overtly large squad and you'll run into trouble. Managing 5 centre backs will be a huge issue on form and morale and giving game time and this should not be underestimated.

Six years is very short. I won't go on and change the entire core principle of Arsenal simply because of a trophyless 6 years. We're playing good football and are well equipped for the UEFA Financial Fairplay rules kicking in (where other clubs in the EPL are not). Don't concentrate too much on the trophies in the short term. Look at Chelsea, they are a far cry from compling with the rules and have realised that they cannot sustain success without a significant investment of money that cannot be recouped in 10 years.

You said, "but that the job for the manager to identify who is the best to sign for short term & can patch the missing link", but Arsene has said they've not identified anyone. Would you just buy anyone in that case, even if they are not a suitable candidate? And what if you pay the RM50 for the nasi lemak and it gives you food poisoning.

Food poisoning for RM50 vs. food poisoning for RM5 are two different risk propositions. If you're gonna overpay, make sure it's damn well worth it and right now there's no one on the market good enough to be overpaid for.

In any case, I look forward to seeing Kyle Bartley in Rangers. If he does well enough (he's been first team at Sheffield United), I would prefer him over some over-expensive January purchase.

Remember that modern football is not just about what happens on the pitch. I invite you to read up about UEFA Financial Fairplay rules. Also, it's worth remembering that Arsenal is a business and every investment needs a return. In the business world, if you pay 5 times what something is worth, you'd be overspending to the point of craziness. There's no reason to look at transfer purchases any differently.
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u can bring up all the club philosophy, financial philosophy, UEFA policy,transfer policy, youth policy, man management or whatever... but in the end, when Vermaelen come back from injury in late march, we may already been left behind in the race or one by one cup competitions gone... and cesc might leave us in the summer... same story again next season... great club with missing links to major honor.... i dont ask to spend big or small, but to patch something in the team with suitable establish player (who wenger said he couldnt find one, but we all agreed that some players might help our team at least in short term & possibly in long term as well)... we have the qualities in the squad....but....my point is we lack of depth to lead us to fight for honours... even all the pundits agreed on this.... smile.gif

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QUOTE(minority @ Feb 1 2011, 05:30 PM)
You've ignored everything I've said.

You're only thinking of this season and a bit of the next.

Everything I've said is about the long-term health of the club for the next 10, 20 seasons.

We may spend extremely for honours this year, or we can think long-term and build a team for stability in the future and thus more chances of honours in the future.

If it's the quick glory of winning cups as soon as possible you want, then I'm afraid Arsenal will continue to disappoint you.
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all of what u're saying describe consequences of prudent management... yes we can be a great club with prudent management in next 10 or 20 years... but prudent management should integrate with success as well...regardless it's immediate success of otherwise..

i would love to see TH14 win champions league with this club...but its never happen... i would love to see cesc fabregas win champions league with this club (it might happen, hopefully so).. so we should match the ambitions of this player whose currently playing with us (not our future 10 years player), by making whatever we can in any opportunity coming by (for example the transfer window) to ensure the ability of this team to go all the way... and still, the problem lack of depth (i called it a problem because it's really...) has been command to arsenal football club in recent years... and i dont feels its right if we abide all those policy in making us a prudent and well-managed club but "THE PROBLEM" still not been solved...
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QUOTE(minority @ Feb 1 2011, 06:16 PM)
I've been explaining to you in plenty of words how prudent management leads to success.

1) It keeps us within UEFA financial fairplay rules that allows to continue participating in UEFA competitions. Without prudent management, we cannot even enter!

2) Not upsetting the team dynamics helps man management and squad rotation

3) Spending big now means diminished ability to spend in the future. We can spend big now and reduce our ability to spend at all in the future. So few trophies now for no trophies later.

4) Imagine the trauma teams like Chelsea, Man Utd and Liverpool are gonna experience once they have to begin cutting back costs. This means wage reductions and laying off more players, or else they won't be allowed on the Champions League bandwagon. Arsenal will be an oasis of stability in those times, and stability wins trophies.

5) Arsenal HAS been successful. We continue to challenge for all competitions. Sometimes the difference between getting close and actually winning something is luck. We cannot measure success simply by cups and trophies won.
The ambitions of players currently playing with us?  8 out of what is currently our first XI are 23 and below, their ambitions will extend to at least the next 7 years, that's plenty of time and by then, the UEFA financial rules will be in full swing. If the players aren't in this for a long haul then their mercenaries we don't need. Even the Mancs players were willing to wait 9 years for the next CL.

And as I've said before, "THE PROBLEM" is not as big a problem as you think! We've got the same squad depth Man Utd has, and we're both at the top of the table!

Can we have better depth? Perhaps. But is it a major life-or-death problem every year? No! Things have gotten far too exaggerated. The only problem area is in defence, and that is a relatively new problem of depth, one which will be resolved by March. Even before then, Squillaci will return. You might say he's not good enough, but he was solid in Sevilla and there's no reason to think that a far too expensive January purchase will suddenly fit in.

Prudent management defines Arsenal, and to throw that all away and join in the insane melee that was the January transfer window will be ludicriously short-term gratification.

P.S. What I am saying that you're missing is that the matters on the pitch CANNOT be separated from the matters on it. When you spend desperately for on-pitch success you jeopardise off-pitch success, which is important to keep the football good.
We're in comfortable position now so many of us think we're good enough. In the final of Carling Cup, making progress in FA Cup, still in Champions League & 2nd in he EPL table... I'm whining and ruing now becoz we miss opportunity to improve our current squad quality & depth in this transfer windows..

its not about age & transfer fee.. no matter he is as old as Henrik Larrson or as young as Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, or as expensive as David Villa or as cheap as Maroune Chamakh.. it is also not entirely about not winning trophies.... but it's about how well the our squad can compete at the highest level... it's just bitter to see we easily surrendered to barca (last season), manchester united (last 2 seasons) when we're knocked out in champions league... the way we lose just show we're not good enough.... the current model develop to the same destiny only this season up till now we're doing well....but when it comes to what matter most, we filled rookie left back against man utd & his mistake allowed United to start their scoring spree in the semi-final of champions league at the emirates (just one example, i can give many more where when comes to big moment, the lack of depth team just couldn't perform)...outplayed by Barcelona... thats just CL stories... i dont need to open EPL stories since we all already acknowledge...

we better hope Cesc, Nasri and RvP stay fit, Vermaelen will not have further set back, Squallaci & Koscielny stop getting red cards, Arshavin picks up his form, Almunia, Sczesny, Gibbs & Denilson not making further mistake...

adequate covers are what we need although no real guarantee any personnel can fit in and make immediate impact but at least he can cover the positions if something happen... there's success and failures stories on signing players in January, but try to be positive rather than satisfy.... dont tell me nobody's available...i just dont wants to throw names becoz u'll analyze them one by one but what's important is my point again, in current squad, we lack of depth to compete at the very highest level of football... long term planning is important and always can be reiterated later but what is equally important now are current day to day business of doing and competing well in all of the competitions...
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QUOTE(minority @ Feb 1 2011, 09:29 PM)
EDIT: Much apologies for being very harsh and rude in this post. Not having a good day indeed.
And I'm telling you there is NO opportunity to be missed because the inflated prices decreases opportunity.
We cannot compete in the highest level if we overspend and don't meet UEFA's financial fairplay rules! They reserve the right to expel teams fro mtheir competitions.

And we also lose long-term competitiveness. Someone mentioned Leeds, who spent shitloads and are now in League One!

Spending too much will affect competitiveness!.

And spending in January WILL BE EXPENSIVE.

You're making me repeat myself in bolds and caps here!
You're thinking short-term again!

These 'rookies' will not be young and rookies forever. They are growing and maturing, and at a sustainable cost!
That's the same for Man Utd! Against Blackpool they were dire until the 96-year-old Giggs came in. And he is not a long-term solution. The names you mention are long-term solutions!
Look! I've even brought out the exclamation mark.

You're still harping on the short-term results, not what we can achieve in the years ahead.
1) If you only want cover without fitting in well, then we already have cover! Song can go to CB and Kyle Bartley or Ignasi Miquel can cover the position. So if cover is all you want, we don't have a problem. If we're gonna spend money however, we'd better spend on someone proper, in the summer when prices are more reasonable.

2) I will tell you nobody's available. Because that's the fact of the matter. You can wish and wish that somebody is available and it's just that Arsene is being ignorant, but the fact is nobody's available. You can't think of anyone, I can't think of anyone.

3) We ARE competing well in all competitions. Competing well enough that we don't need to splurge £25 million on a panic-January buy and wipe out last year's profits on a high risk purchase.

Look, I never say we don't need depth. We could do with more depth. But you're approaching the problem in a binary way, to you it's trophy/no-trophy, buy/don't-buy, depth/no-depth.

These are NOT binary issues. There are different degree of squad depth and transfer spending. If we had somebody to cover at £4 million, maybe, but if it's at £20 million (which, let's face it, is what people like Emir Spahic will cost in January) then that's a bigger risk.

It's not buy/don't-buy but buy who, when and for how much and for how long?

We do not lack depth to compete in the highest competitions. Our second string is quality, but lacking in confidence. The performance against Huddersfield was subpar for everyone concern, but we know from history that those same players are capable of much, much more.

Buying more players in January won't help confidence and neither will it help squad depth, if I'm honest, simply because they won't fit in right away.

P.S. Apologies if I sound harsh. Work pressures as well (which is why I'm escaping to football). But I must insist that you stop separating matters on the pitch with matters off it. You do keep banging on about squad depth, but squad depth is not independent of team spirit and finances. They are all related and the level of squad depth you wish for is simply unsustainable and may even affect the morale of the team.


Added on February 1, 2011, 9:32 pm

I doubt that includes Torres and David Luiz yet, but Chelsea has been cutting costs in anticipation of the UEFA rules kicking in.

Which is why many people found last night's splurge a surprise.
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ok la en minority, what ever dude... u & your policies, rules & long term investment... that rookie might improves and they become star player for us and then barcelona/real madrid/man.city will bid them and they become unsettle and becoz the lack of success (or any other reasons) they will leave us before winning any trophies with us... smile.gif ...that what i call imbalance of depth in the team since we have star players in one position, we have rookies in other certain positions... by the time our star players reach their peak, there's still weak links in the team which lead to uncompetitiveness of this team competing at the highest level of football..... the trend is repeating itself again & again...

no opportunity to buy ?? i'm not just talking to this particular transfer windows, we misses a lot of quality players to our rivals just because of our "policies" in the previous transfer windows.. u really dont want me to pinpoint quality footballers we lose to our rival due to our shyness and unwillingness to spend (regardless whether in january or in the summer)...

specifically to the bolded part . i write again and again, it's about how our players perform when it comes to important moment in our club core business, playing a football match... we always could field 11 youngsters to play against barcelona and hope for the best outcome... otherwise we'll look forward again to next season whereby some of our peak players might be already in another club...

confident, harmony, risk all are side issues.... and the purpose of transfer windows been opened in January is to give chance for team to improve and patch necessary link...just because we are 2nd in the table doesnt mean we're perfect... we're now clinging to our youngsters and players play out of their normal position as our depth now.... i dont like this feelings since they could be forced into action prematurely against big oppositions at big moments & obviously it's 50-50 whether they could handle some big names in world football or not... most of the time no but we'll hope for the best since january transfer windows already been closed... so close case, lets enjoy what we can do.... we need wonders to go all they way in all four competitions... better hope our players not run out of steam...

p/s: u should be a yes man to arsene wenger...he must like u very much laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Feb 2 2011, 12:46 AM)
stop with those debate . let focus on later game against everton .
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still have sometime for the debate la... smile.gif
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great win... we managed to dig a result... arshavin got his scoring boot again.... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(liez @ Feb 2 2011, 10:44 AM)
I don't understand why field Rosicky instead of Chamakh? Chamakh didn't be a michael owen to his team just to be our reserve.... Really hope at least CHamakh will get to play at least once a week.
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fatigue maybe....he needs some rest since the start of season till december he started almost all game for us... why field him if he couldnt perform.... wait till he's in optimum condition and have enough rest only send him back into action...
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QUOTE(ohhisee @ Feb 3 2011, 09:48 PM)
ha..thanks to arsenal, koscielny now included in french squad.. smile.gif

clichy here.?
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flamini was in the french squad during his time at arsenal... now no longer... haha...
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its a good time to play newcastle this weekend.. they just lose their main striker & lose their last gane.. but the lads shouldnt take it easy since we already lost to them at the emirates last november..

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our defensive is always good enough.... no need to buy or improve our squad... smile.gif

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