can anyone tell me guide to overclock ?
Sandy Bridge Overclocking V1, 2500K/2600K/2700K | LGA1155 P67.Z68.Z77
Sandy Bridge Overclocking V1, 2500K/2600K/2700K | LGA1155 P67.Z68.Z77
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Jun 10 2012, 01:39 PM
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can anyone tell me guide to overclock ?
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Jun 10 2012, 01:41 PM
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8,711 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: Butterworth, PG / Machang, Kelantan |
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Jun 10 2012, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 10 2012, 01:41 PM) I try to understand all the explanation regarding all in page 1 , but it seems to be confusing , but from what i learn is that the hertz X multiplier will give you your final value , and the rest i do not know what is for , so i just want to know what should i keep an eye on and what should not . |
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Jun 24 2012, 08:33 PM
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I'm very very new to water cooling.
I don't OC in the past, and since I recently got hook up to WC I tell myself why not try how far I can go. Purpose : Other than benchmarking / showing off, I do 3D rendering a lot (Interior Designer here) Ok, cut the crap short. My water cooling setup is as below RASA 750 RX240X KIT | EX240 RADIATOR SCYTHE GENTLE TYPHOON x 4 | XSPC TUBING ENZOTECH COMPRESSION FITTINGS | RAYSTORM CPU & GPU WATERBLOCK Loop design : ![]() In my room I have air-con set to 21c - 24c Result, which I think it's the max I can go. 1.46v @ 4.8ghz (passed 1 hour Prime95 small FFT. Will do a 24 hour test after getting advice here. Photos : ![]() Okay, so here's the problem. 1.) I think I either got a bad chip or something is wrong with my loop. My CPU idle @ around 37-40 (PLEASE CONSIDER MY AMBIENT TEMP) When it's full load on 4.8ghz @ 1.46v it goes up to 70c - 80c Can anyone of you help me identify the problem? Or that's the max I can go with the radiator I'm having now. (I'm still new so I tell myself to upgrade slowly in the future) Another question is, why do core #0 get so much lower temp than the other 3, around 10c lower if you notice in the picture provided. I will appreciate your input here! Full specs on my sig! This post has been edited by Qavs: Jun 24 2012, 08:34 PM |
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Jun 24 2012, 10:02 PM
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8,711 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: Butterworth, PG / Machang, Kelantan |
QUOTE(Qavs @ Jun 24 2012, 08:33 PM) I'm very very new to water cooling. I don't OC in the past, and since I recently got hook up to WC I tell myself why not try how far I can go. Purpose : Other than benchmarking / showing off, I do 3D rendering a lot (Interior Designer here) Ok, cut the crap short. My water cooling setup is as below RASA 750 RX240X KIT | EX240 RADIATOR SCYTHE GENTLE TYPHOON x 4 | XSPC TUBING ENZOTECH COMPRESSION FITTINGS | RAYSTORM CPU & GPU WATERBLOCK Loop design : In my room I have air-con set to 21c - 24c Result, which I think it's the max I can go. 1.46v @ 4.8ghz (passed 1 hour Prime95 small FFT. Will do a 24 hour test after getting advice here. Photos : Okay, so here's the problem. 1.) I think I either got a bad chip or something is wrong with my loop. My CPU idle @ around 37-40 (PLEASE CONSIDER MY AMBIENT TEMP) When it's full load on 4.8ghz @ 1.46v it goes up to 70c - 80c Can anyone of you help me identify the problem? Or that's the max I can go with the radiator I'm having now. (I'm still new so I tell myself to upgrade slowly in the future) Another question is, why do core #0 get so much lower temp than the other 3, around 10c lower if you notice in the picture provided. I will appreciate your input here! Full specs on my sig! Pls resit the CPU wb & check whether your loop is fully out of bubbles alright as per PM conversation it is known that you initialized the realtemp late so the load temps look quite normal. nothing wrong with the core0 vs others as I believe all of us getting the same reading. Reducing CPU PLL to 1.5-1.75v would decrease the temp abit get another set of fans for push pull setup. add some rads or upgrade to triple/quad rad. This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 24 2012, 10:38 PM |
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Jun 24 2012, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 24 2012, 10:02 PM) Pls resit the CPU wb & check whether your loop is fully out of bubbles alright as per PM conversation it is known that you initialized the realtemp late so the load temps look quite normal. nothing wrong with the core0 vs others as I believe all of us getting the same reading. Reducing CPU PLL to 1.5-1.75v would decrease the temp abit get another set of fans for push pull setup. add some rads or upgrade to triple/quad rad. Only fan? I have both typhoon pushing air out. Using 1,48 to achieve 4.8 consider a bad chip or not? Sigh, I've seen people getting to 4.8 with much lower voltage in OCN. |
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Jun 24 2012, 10:56 PM
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8,711 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: Butterworth, PG / Machang, Kelantan |
QUOTE(Qavs @ Jun 24 2012, 10:42 PM) Hmm, so regarding the idle temp it's pretty normal for my WC setup? don't know how's the airflow of your casing but i believe you should get as low as 30-35C under that ambient temp.Only fan? I have both typhoon pushing air out. Using 1,48 to achieve 4.8 consider a bad chip or not? Sigh, I've seen people getting to 4.8 with much lower voltage in OCN. that's an average chip i got like 9 out of 10 of CPU like this my golden 2600K chip could do 5.0 @ 1.42v on load. you're actually running at degradation zone better find a suitable clock stable as low as 1.4v & load temp less than 80C to prevent degradation. This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 24 2012, 10:57 PM |
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Jun 24 2012, 11:10 PM
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I'm actually pretty new to this OCing and WCing thing.
I think you can see my loop design from the picture above, airflow I think should be ok-good. Since cable are well managed by Cyntrix, exhaust fan at the back of casing (stock from CM Storm Trooper) Both rad using push style. I'm thinking of upgrading to 360 or 480 as you suggested, but did some google and 480 require modding of the case and I don't think I'm capable of doing it. Took a peek from the top and I see there's a little bit space left to put fan for push-pull. Anyway your 2600k still available? |
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Jun 25 2012, 06:57 AM
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8,711 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: Butterworth, PG / Machang, Kelantan |
QUOTE(Qavs @ Jun 24 2012, 11:10 PM) I'm actually pretty new to this OCing and WCing thing. The golden 2600K was sold to a forumer long2 time ago.I think you can see my loop design from the picture above, airflow I think should be ok-good. Since cable are well managed by Cyntrix, exhaust fan at the back of casing (stock from CM Storm Trooper) Both rad using push style. I'm thinking of upgrading to 360 or 480 as you suggested, but did some google and 480 require modding of the case and I don't think I'm capable of doing it. Took a peek from the top and I see there's a little bit space left to put fan for push-pull. Anyway your 2600k still available? wc is seriously poisonous you will not stop upgrading. just don't expect too much on a kit that's worth below RM1k. Get a quad rad & mount it at the rear of casing. |
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Jun 25 2012, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 25 2012, 06:57 AM) The golden 2600K was sold to a forumer long2 time ago. Haiya wc is seriously poisonous you will not stop upgrading. just don't expect too much on a kit that's worth below RM1k. Get a quad rad & mount it at the rear of casing. Anyway, I lowered my core speed to 4.7ghz with 1.43v getting temp MAX 78 after 40min of prime small fft. Should I stick to this or lower more for 24/7 usage? It's still an improvement over the high voltage and >80 temp previously @ 4.8 |
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Jun 25 2012, 09:29 AM
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8,711 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: Butterworth, PG / Machang, Kelantan |
QUOTE(Qavs @ Jun 25 2012, 08:29 AM) Haiya Daily usage you wont hit 78C actually this core temp only apply to stress test like LinX and Prime. I would stay with 1.4v on load just because SB will degrade very fast. Anyway, I lowered my core speed to 4.7ghz with 1.43v getting temp MAX 78 after 40min of prime small fft. Should I stick to this or lower more for 24/7 usage? It's still an improvement over the high voltage and >80 temp previously @ 4.8 |
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Jun 25 2012, 09:38 AM
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wat is the best for i5 2500k ya?? i means how far can go for this?
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Jun 25 2012, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 25 2012, 09:29 AM) Daily usage you wont hit 78C actually this core temp only apply to stress test like LinX and Prime. I would stay with 1.4v on load just because SB will degrade very fast. <1.4 Can only hit 4.6ghzKinda disappointing as this is my first WC rig and didn't even hit good result. Probably a bad chip I guess, the chip is very power hungry. Anything below 1.3 won't even load pass bios. |
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Jun 25 2012, 09:51 AM
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8,711 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: Butterworth, PG / Machang, Kelantan |
QUOTE(Qavs @ Jun 25 2012, 09:40 AM) <1.4 Can only hit 4.6ghz agreed on the luck part you must be the luckiest guy to get the golden chip from retail in which i am not that's why i am willing to fork out RM2.3k to buy the golden 2600K from a UK guy. Kinda disappointing as this is my first WC rig and didn't even hit good result. Probably a bad chip I guess, the chip is very power hungry. Anything below 1.3 won't even load pass bios. And dont be so upset about the performance of your wc as it is still better and look sexier than the air cooler. This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 25 2012, 09:53 AM |
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Jun 25 2012, 09:51 AM
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Now trying 1.37 @ 4.6ghz, temp stays around 65. If everything is stable might as well just stick with it and wish for better luck of winning the lottery of golden chips in the future.
It's pretty crazy this chip need additional of 0.6v to move 100mhz more. This post has been edited by Qavs: Jun 25 2012, 09:53 AM |
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Jun 25 2012, 09:58 AM
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8,711 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: Butterworth, PG / Machang, Kelantan |
QUOTE(Qavs @ Jun 25 2012, 09:51 AM) Now trying 1.37 @ 4.6ghz, temp stays around 65. If everything is stable might as well just stick with it and wish for better luck of winning the lottery of golden chips in the future. The relationship between vcore vs speed is more like exponential rather than a linear proportion. Same like other platforms & DRAM clock vs vdimm.It's pretty crazy this chip need additional of 0.6v to move 100mhz more. This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 25 2012, 09:59 AM |
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Jun 25 2012, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 25 2012, 09:58 AM) The relationship between vcore vs speed is more like exponential rather than a linear proportion. Same like other platforms & DRAM clock vs vdimm. Yeah, I guess that's the case. Anyway, does a SB degrade over high voltage or high temp? Or both? and how much improvement will I see if I upgrade my pump to MCP-355 from rx240kit stock pump? Looking forward to learn a lot from you man, initially just wanted to get a rig from Cyntrix, let him OC for me to the max and learn how to maintain the WC system just for the sake of look. After getting the rig not more than 1 day already gatal to play around with OCing and benchmarking. Well I guess I'm more to a 'learn how to fish' than a 'give me a bucket of fish' |
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Jun 25 2012, 10:43 AM
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8,711 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: Butterworth, PG / Machang, Kelantan |
QUOTE(Qavs @ Jun 25 2012, 10:14 AM) Yeah, I guess that's the case. Everbody including me is still learning Anyway, does a SB degrade over high voltage or high temp? Or both? and how much improvement will I see if I upgrade my pump to MCP-355 from rx240kit stock pump? Looking forward to learn a lot from you man, initially just wanted to get a rig from Cyntrix, let him OC for me to the max and learn how to maintain the WC system just for the sake of look. After getting the rig not more than 1 day already gatal to play around with OCing and benchmarking. Well I guess I'm more to a 'learn how to fish' than a 'give me a bucket of fish' Degradation happen when high vcore applied and sky high temp, especially when stressed. MCP355 is a stronger pump having higher head pressure so expect it to move more coolant at faster way and improve your overall loop performance. |
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Jun 25 2012, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 25 2012, 10:43 AM) Everbody including me is still learning if you change from the stock pump of the rasa kit to mcp355, your temps may reduce from 1-2C. Not a major jump compared to extra rad or faster fansDegradation happen when high vcore applied and sky high temp, especially when stressed. MCP355 is a stronger pump having higher head pressure so expect it to move more coolant at faster way and improve your overall loop performance. Normally XSPC stuff are high flow rate and do not restrict much. The heat dump from the mcp355 also will factor in |
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Jun 27 2012, 01:51 AM
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QUOTE(sam sam @ Jun 25 2012, 10:51 AM) if you change from the stock pump of the rasa kit to mcp355, your temps may reduce from 1-2C. Not a major jump compared to extra rad or faster fans I'm actually running the rx240 with gt 1800 push Normally XSPC stuff are high flow rate and do not restrict much. The heat dump from the mcp355 also will factor in and ex240 pull is 73 max on 4.6 @ 1.39v acceptable at all for my setup? aircon room @ 21c Really temp to switch the ex240 to rx360 Now rx240 for CPU and ex240 for gpu, not dual loop la. then rx360 for the cpu and rx240 for the gpu and also switching the pump too. Went to BIOS and reset everything, auto voltage for my cpu is 1.37, bloody hungry chip This post has been edited by Qavs: Jun 27 2012, 01:52 AM |
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