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post Jan 6 2011, 12:18 PM

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For groceries and locally made goods, prices are like Malaysia 5 years back. That's assuming you shop where the locals get their daily necessities. Eating out, depends on location and type of food. It's just like KL, can range from very cheap to very expensive.

All imported goods will be much more expensive if compared to Malaysia. And don't think that all locally made goods are cheap. There are many brands that are highly expensive.

Major cut throat cost would be housing, but since you've got it covered, no worries.
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post Jan 6 2011, 12:33 PM

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That's not bad, considering your flights and lodging is already paid for!

Other living costs ain't that high, I'm assuming you are a Chinese and know how to get around. You are not white guy who can't speak/read Chinese and need to buy food at the imported section of Carrefour / go for coffee at Starbucks / etc.

I believe you'll be taking the subway and buses too.

This post has been edited by entryman: Jan 6 2011, 12:35 PM
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post Jan 6 2011, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(rollover @ Jan 6 2011, 03:58 PM)
Haha no I'm Malay and don't speak/read chinese biggrin.gif I don't expect food to be a big problem unless the quality is really going to be bad. But I am preparing for the worst in terms of the pollution and air quality. Air filters seem to be the way to go in apartments but they're expensive...
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Lol. blush.gif Then I suggest you get a crash course in speaking Mandarin, e.g. Pimsleur.

It will do you a lot of benefit. One clear example would be stronger relationships.

As to it being expensive, some things are just investments that you can't do away with, don't skimp on things that are closely related to your well being, especially if you're in a foreign country. You can save alot by cooking yourself, by not eating out at lavish places, by not going for designer goods, etc.

Oh another thing, luckily you're Malay, and I assume Muslim, if not... you'll have to buy lots of liver tonics, vitamin D, etc. Expect to be downing a lot of shots. Being Muslim good excuse not to, save lots of money, haha. But I'm not sure how that will affect your career though, haven't been to that stage myself yet smile.gif
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post Jan 6 2011, 08:16 PM

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I think for his 2000 euros it's around the bracket of 20%.
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post Jan 7 2011, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Jan 7 2011, 09:22 AM)
I'm going there next month.

Anyone there?
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You going for? Travel? Long term / short term work?

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I'm about 1400 KM away (south), lol.
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post Jan 7 2011, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(rollover @ Jan 7 2011, 03:35 PM)
What I've learned so far:
- lots of people everywhere all the time <- Yep. Not sure about Beijing, but population of Shanghai can be considered as equivalent to Malaysia. And there are many other cities in China that are like that.
- good apartments are expensive <- Even small apartments are expensive!
- learning Mandarin is a good idea biggrin.gif <- It is not only a good idea, it's imperative.
- traffic is bad <- and you won't get used to the driving style for at least 5 months. It's horrible, much worse than kiasu malaysians, but of course, not as bad as India. You'll probably get a huge shock, sitting in a cab for the first time/trying to cross the street. By the way it's left hand drive.
- subways are good and cheap, crowded during rush hours but reasonable otherwise <- they are always on time (based on personal experience). and expect Malaysian ones to be a miniature toy, as over there, there are many routes (well connected), and it could be very confusing for the first timer, since majority of words/people to ask are in Chinese.
- cost of living is about the same as KL
- food quality can be bad <- it's just like KL, there are plenty good food, and plenty bad food. Just that China's land area is larger so you have more travelling to do.
- air pollution is bad, get a good quality air filter for the apartment and 3M facemasks <- good quality standalone water filter too in addition to the fixed rocket filter that might already be provided by your landlord.
- cycling is an option but could be dangerous depending on where you go <- cycling is dangerous anywhere on Chinese roads, except in and around your own housing estate/apartment area.
- there is double taxation if staying more than 183 days
- power supply is 220V/50Hz similar to Malaysia but the plugs are similar to Japan/Europe <- not a worry. the normal extension plugs (rack) are widely available and can support Malaysian plugheads. You can also buy a small portable converter head (approx RM30) that would allow you to bring your laptop anywhere.

- mistresses are expensive biggrin.gif <- mistresses are potentially detrimental to family life and career development, if they become cunning and demand ransom money from you to shut up. "Massage centres" would be a better and safer alternative, if you know what I mean, lol sorry if you're offended.
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