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TSfa-tin
post Jan 5 2011, 03:24 PM, updated 15y ago

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hi guys,
need some advices about to close the stairs to become store room. (don't know what is the correct term.... tongue.gif )
a) so how much will it cost & how it normally calculated? per sqft? per pieces?
b) any suggestion on how to do it (any attached pics are most welcome...)
c) any recommendation of contractors/carpenter at kajang/bangi area?

thanks for any advices...
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post Jan 5 2011, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(fa-tin @ Jan 5 2011, 03:24 PM)
hi guys,
need some advices about to close the stairs to become store room. (don't know what is the correct term.... tongue.gif )
a) so how much will it cost & how it normally calculated? per sqft? per pieces?
b) any suggestion on how to do it (any attached pics are most welcome...)
c) any recommendation of contractors/carpenter at kajang/bangi area?

thanks for any advices...
please refer below picture.
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I think the way of doing that is to remove the whole stair and re-construct by using concrete. then close the bottom of stiarcase by brick or partition to create a store room. This was a "big project" and i guess the cost must be around 10k to 20k depent on material using.
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post Jan 5 2011, 10:18 PM

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Another way is for the contractor to build plaster walls around it.

An experienced one will know how to do it without demolishing and reconstruct the stairs which will cost a bomb.
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post Jan 6 2011, 12:11 AM

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use drywall method...aka partition for the store, close up the staircase riser with matching timber plank, less than 3k i guess smile.gif
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post Jan 6 2011, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(Eleganz Concept @ Jan 5 2011, 10:04 PM)
I think the way of doing that is to remove the whole stair and re-construct by using concrete. then close the bottom of stiarcase by brick or partition to create a store room. This was a "big project" and i guess the cost must be around 10k to 20k depent on material using.
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wow...quite big project...i'm afraid that my budget should less than that...i would say RM5k only...

QUOTE(skng03 @ Jan 6 2011, 12:11 AM)
use drywall method...aka partition for the store, close up the staircase riser with matching timber plank, less than 3k i guess smile.gif
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hmm...interesting...but i wonder RM3k is it for the whole staircase (U shape as per picture attached) or for one level/slope only...?
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QUOTE(fa-tin @ Jan 6 2011, 08:36 AM)
wow...quite big project...i'm afraid that my budget should less than that...i would say RM5k only...
hmm...interesting...but i wonder RM3k is it for the whole staircase (U shape as per picture attached) or for one level/slope only...?
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I guess you should get the contractor to visit your place to get a proper quote. Else you can just measure up with pictures and the contractor will be able to give you a rough quote.
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post Jan 6 2011, 10:30 AM

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Do you want to use the existing stairs? If yes probably will need plaster partition or wooden laminate partition. Else demolish the whole stairs and use concrete.


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post Jan 6 2011, 12:47 PM

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around 5k will do
have mine done last year

TSfa-tin
post Jan 7 2011, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(Shazzac @ Jan 6 2011, 10:11 AM)
I guess you should get the contractor to visit your place to get a proper quote. Else you can just measure up with pictures and the contractor will be able to give you a rough quote.
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already give rough figures to 2-3 contractors (who done kitchen cabinet) but they said normally expensive and hard to be done...i don't know, maybe they don't want to do that kind of jobs... hmm.gif ...but still didn't invite them to my house yet, yes...maybe i should..

QUOTE(Drian @ Jan 6 2011, 10:30 AM)
Do you want to use the existing stairs? If yes probably will need plaster partition or wooden laminate partition. Else demolish the whole stairs and use concrete.
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yes i want to remain the existing stairs...

QUOTE(dvinez @ Jan 6 2011, 12:47 PM)
around 5k will do
have mine done last year
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mind sharing yours...?
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post Jan 7 2011, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(fa-tin @ Jan 7 2011, 07:59 AM)
already give rough figures to 2-3 contractors (who done kitchen cabinet) but they said normally expensive and hard to be done...i don't know, maybe they don't want to do that kind of jobs... hmm.gif ...but still didn't invite them to my house yet, yes...maybe i should..yes i want to remain the existing stairs...mind sharing yours...?
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to me, is really dificult to do by partition box up, because the worker need to fix the wood pcs by pcs to each step of the stair, and have to make sure your staircase is not (movable), usually staircase like yours when u go up and down, the metal support will have a bit shaking feeling, that may cause the plaster between partition and your staircase have a (crack line), unless u know about this and you done mind.
So, the best and nicer way to do for me is remove the staircase and build a new 1 by cement
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post Jan 7 2011, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(fa-tin @ Jan 7 2011, 07:59 AM)
already give rough figures to 2-3 contractors (who done kitchen cabinet) but they said normally expensive and hard to be done...i don't know, maybe they don't want to do that kind of jobs... hmm.gif ...but still didn't invite them to my house yet, yes...maybe i should..
yes i want to remain the existing stairs...
mind sharing yours...?
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I really think that you should look for a suitable contractor to do this work. Anything is doable, it just depends if the contractor want to do or not. At times they might just be too lazy to do so much of work to get it done.

QUOTE(Eleganz Concept @ Jan 7 2011, 09:13 AM)
to me, is really dificult to do by partition box up, because the worker need to fix the wood pcs by pcs to each step of the stair, and have to make sure your staircase is not (movable), usually staircase like yours when u go up and down, the metal support will have a bit shaking feeling, that may cause the plaster between partition and your staircase have a (crack line), unless u know about this and you done mind.
So, the best and nicer way to do for me is remove the staircase and build a new 1 by cement
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Fatin's staircase looks really nice, i think by removing and doing a new cemented stairs will make it look so common. We don't get much of this type of stairs anymore!


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post Jan 7 2011, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Shazzac @ Jan 7 2011, 09:37 AM)
Fatin's staircase looks really nice, i think by removing and doing a new cemented stairs will make it look so common. We don't get much of this type of stairs anymore!
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haha...shazzac statement make me feel to think twice about to renovate it... tongue.gif
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post Jan 7 2011, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(Eleganz Concept @ Jan 7 2011, 09:13 AM)
to me, is really dificult to do by partition box up, because the worker need to fix the wood pcs by pcs to each step of the stair, and have to make sure your staircase is not (movable), usually staircase like yours when u go up and down, the metal support will have a bit shaking feeling, that may cause the plaster between partition and your staircase have a (crack line), unless u know about this and you done mind.
So, the best and nicer way to do for me is remove the staircase and build a new 1 by cement
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Actually the work is not difficult, only its cumbersome, you need to do up the frame/shell piece by piece, the store support doesn't have to depend on staircase, instead they can get the support from the wall n floor, just leave small gap between the staircase n the store room will be good enough. To closed up the whole frame you can use those ply, nailed them piece by piece after all the size are measured n cut. This is not messy job,only it take up a lot of time.

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post Jan 7 2011, 05:03 PM

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I tried to do the same thing last time. The contractor told me, he needed to put a tiang besi, from ceiling to floor to act as a support pillar for the wood. Anyway, by the way he talked, it didn't look that difficult for him.

Anyway, I ended up making a new concrete stair.. Roughly around 5k.
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QUOTE(zeese @ Jan 7 2011, 05:03 PM)
I tried to do the same thing last time. The contractor told me, he needed to put a tiang besi, from ceiling to floor to act as a support pillar for the wood. Anyway, by the way he talked, it didn't look that difficult for him.

Anyway, I ended up making a new concrete stair.. Roughly around 5k.
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^^5K for a concrete staircase, not expensive at all.
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post Jan 8 2011, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(zeese @ Jan 7 2011, 05:03 PM)
I tried to do the same thing last time. The contractor told me, he needed to put a tiang besi, from ceiling to floor to act as a support pillar for the wood. Anyway, by the way he talked, it didn't look that difficult for him.

Anyway, I ended up making a new concrete stair.. Roughly around 5k.
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I've done my one, you don't need any tiang besi at all.
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post Jan 9 2011, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(Eleganz Concept @ Jan 8 2011, 02:02 AM)
^^5K for a concrete staircase, not expensive at all.
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kayu + papan rm500.
besi rm 500
labour for form work & besi 2 worker x 4 day x rm70/day = 560
concrete 2m3 + labour = 600
cement, sand,tiles + labour = 2000
total 4160

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post Jan 9 2011, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(skng03 @ Jan 9 2011, 01:47 AM)
kayu + papan rm500.
besi rm 500
labour for form work & besi 2 worker x 4 day x rm70/day = 560
concrete 2m3 + labour = 600
cement, sand,tiles + labour = 2000
total 4160

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wow, 2 worker for 4 day can done o? nice job ^^
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post Jan 10 2011, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Eleganz Concept @ Jan 9 2011, 10:24 PM)
wow, 2 worker for 4 day can done o? nice job ^^
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read carefully, concrete casting & tiling work item was separate out..

for formwork + rebar work, 2 worker 4 day already more than enough lor tongue.gif tongue.gif


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QUOTE(fa-tin @ Jan 7 2011, 07:59 AM)

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post Jan 10 2011, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(dvinez @ Jan 10 2011, 03:48 PM)
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wow...thanks dvinez for the pictures...looks like the cost is almost the same between using concrete or by using woods...
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post Jan 13 2011, 11:59 AM

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dvinez, your new stairs looks really nice! how much did you spend to convert it?
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post Jan 13 2011, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(dvinez @ Jan 10 2011, 03:48 PM)
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o.. this is change to cement base.. right?
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post Jan 14 2011, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(fa-tin @ Jan 5 2011, 04:54 PM)
hi guys,
need some advices about to close the stairs to become store room. (don't know what is the correct term.... tongue.gif )
a) so how much will it cost & how it normally calculated? per sqft? per pieces?
b) any suggestion on how to do it (any attached pics are most welcome...)
c) any recommendation of contractors/carpenter at kajang/bangi area?

thanks for any advices...
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This is how i m going to do it.See pics below.
I dun know how much it will cost but i m sure the carpentry labour ain't going to be cheap since
experience carpentry skill is needed.

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post Jan 15 2011, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(BIKA @ Jan 14 2011, 03:28 PM)
This is how i m going to do it.See pics below.
I dun know how much it will cost but i m sure the carpentry labour ain't going to be cheap since
experience carpentry skill is needed.

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this is exactly what i sugguest @ post #4 brows.gif brows.gif

if use ply wood, do undercoat it with solvent base under coat paint 1st, then u can paint it over with normal wall paint without any problem later nod.gif
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post Jan 15 2011, 10:12 AM

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well, on the (finishing) part, there is still need to do a lot of work, specially like the side wood with door, if close up like that, when you standing on the stiarcase, you will see the wood come out from the stiarcase on your left hand side, then another problem just like i mention, i think (not sure) the joining part from ply wood and existing staircase will have crack line after sometime, because this kind of stiarcase usually will a bit shacking.
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post Jan 17 2011, 08:16 AM

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thanks BIKA and skng03...just same what's in my mind..only dont know to visualize it like BIKA did...
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post Jan 17 2011, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(justin_nys @ Jan 13 2011, 11:59 AM)
dvinez, your new stairs looks really nice! how much did you spend to convert it?
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around RM5k, with store below it.
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post Jan 17 2011, 11:24 AM

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I do think using concrete with tiles looks nicer, and it's way more solid and durable. No more hollow sound whenever you walk up the stairs.

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post Jan 21 2011, 03:10 PM

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I renovated my house and created a small storeroom under the stairs.

It seems like a small job, but actually, it entails alot of details, which can cost lots of money.

The cheapest way is to use partition boards, or brick up/plaster the walls. This way, you need to include cost of:
1. Brick/plaster work or partition board
2. Close the gap between the steps in the stairs
3. Cost of a door
4. Lighting point for the store

Covering the gap between the steps will do the job, but it wont be very nice. So, I opted for the full and proper way, which as it turns out, was very costly.

Chinese contractor quoted me RM4,000 just to brick up and redo the steps with concrete.

I also discovered that, to cover the steps is expensive. Using wood, it wld cost anything from RM4,000 (timber strips) to RM6,000 (solid planks). Tiles also not cheap, becuz contractor charges tiling work for staircase on a different rate, so workmanship alone will cost more than RM1,500.

Covering a step is charged on a PER STEP basis.

In the end, luckily I decided to use timber flooring for my first floor, and so it cost me RM1,500 to cover the stairs with timber...

With all is said, it is worthwhile if the storage is badly needed.

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post Sep 27 2011, 09:41 PM

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I am having this done with plywood as stair risers, and gypsum board to make the store room below. Carpenter quoted RM2,800. At first, I thought it was expensive, but after reading this thread, maybe it's cheap!

To those who have done it, care to share some pics? And comments? smile.gif fa-tin, did you cover it up in the end?
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post Sep 28 2011, 10:51 PM

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why not just built cabinet with different size of compartment? You save space, easier to sort things, don't have to get into cramp store "room".

I thing that area is more for a storage system instead of a store room.


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Hmmm. I guess it's more practical to have some sort of clever storage system, but then again, having a store room is practical too if you want to just dump stuff and boxes and things, although not so space efficient. It's down to personal preference I guess. For me, I want a clean look, so I just decided to box it up to look like it's cement wall.

 

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