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post Jan 4 2011, 04:26 PM, updated 15y ago

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Jika kita ingin menghasilkan pemain bola sepak berkualiti, kita perlulah menyumbang supaya kerjaya sebagai pemain bolasepak boleh menjadi kerjaya yang berkualiti.

Puji mulut sahaja tak guna. kalau kita bank-in RM30 sahaja ke dalam akaun SAM ni, kita dah bagi lebih dari seringgit seorang kepada setiap player dan staff. smile.gif



Sumbang Tabung Ganjaran Akujanji melalui akaun CIMB SAM

2011/01/02
PERSATUAN Penulis-penulis Sukan Malaysia (SAM) bersetuju membuka akaun khas persatuan bagi membolehkan orang ramai menghulurkan sumbangan sebagai tanda penghargaan di atas kejayaan skuad bola sepak negara menjuarai Piala AFF Suzuki, baru-baru ini.

Presiden SAM, Ahmad Khawari Isa berkata, orang ramai kini boleh menyumbang melalui akaun SAM tanpa had minimum bagi memberi peluang peminat yang ingin turut serta dalam Tabung Ganjaran Akujanji yang dilancarkan baru-baru ini. Orang ramai boleh menyumbang melalui akaun CIMB SAM di nombor: 1426-0006500-00-5. “Akaun ini akan dibuka selama dua minggu dan hasil sumbangan itu nanti akan diserahkan kepada pihak berkaitan untuk disampaikan kepada barisan skuad bola sepak Piala AFF Suzuki nanti.

“Saya juga menyeru orang ramai dan peminat untuk turut menyumbang walau RM5 sekalipun sebagai sebahagian dari tanda penghargaan dan terima kasih kepada skuad Harimau Malaya,” kata Ahmad Khawari.

Setakat ini, RM91,400 sudah terkumpul, daripada enam syarikat iaitu Double XL Services Sdn Bhd (RM22,000), WSL (MSC) Sdn Bhd (RM22,000), Aiman Motor Sdn Bhd (RM22,000), AR Factor Resources Sdn Bhd (RM10,000), SPA Integrated Sdn Bhd (RM10,000) dan Kelab Futsal Arena (RM2,200).

Blogger sukan, Mohd Rizal Hashim turut menyumbang RM3,200.
Badan korporat dan orang perseorangan boleh menghubungi pejabat SAM di talian 03-20780985 atau faksimili di 03-20706294 pada setiap Isnin, Rabu dan Khamis. Sumbangan boleh juga dibuat dengan berhubung terus dengan Setiausaha Agung SAM, Faisal Jamal di 014-2366200.

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post Jan 4 2011, 04:30 PM

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Baru menang suzuki cup, nak minta sumbangan dah??

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post Jan 4 2011, 04:35 PM

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wads de target?
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post Jan 4 2011, 04:38 PM

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barang2 naik harga skrg...too bad
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post Jan 4 2011, 04:38 PM

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LCW should do the same.
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post Jan 4 2011, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Lowyat @ Jan 4 2011, 04:30 PM)
Baru menang suzuki cup, nak minta sumbangan dah??
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Selalu sangat ke menang sampai memilih sangat?

Added on January 4, 2011, 4:46 pm
QUOTE(liez @ Jan 4 2011, 04:35 PM)
wads de target?
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no target. they will open for 2 weeks and will submit what ever they have to the players after that.

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Jan 4 2011, 04:38 PM)
barang2 naik harga skrg...too bad
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there is no minimum limit.. if you donate RM3, you have given more than 10 cent to every player and staff...

Added on January 4, 2011, 4:52 pm
QUOTE(hk_loo @ Jan 4 2011, 04:38 PM)
LCW should do the same.
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LCW's equivalent to the Suzuki Cup is the Olympic Gold Medal.. the tension in in the air running up to that final vs Lin Dan in Beijing was not much different from the Suzuki Cup final..... the whole country was practically holding our breath for both of them... only the end result different..

Of course it will be weird holding a fundraising after he won the Gold Medal considering government already pledge RM 1 million to each Olympic goal medal..

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post Jan 4 2011, 04:55 PM

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we already donate for their pembangunan sukan
from rakyat money===))))cukai/tax/bills/etc..blablabla
so government shud responsible this
bring this MEMO to najib,not to us (rakyat)

Seriously,im proud Malaysia now KING of East Asian..credit to our boys rclxms.gif
but this issue (Tabung Ganjaran Akujanji) like they minta sedekah/simpati to us
i totally not agree with this
Poor country compare to us like Indon and Vietnam their government can give big amount $$ if they can win any cup.
wht not us? (our government)

P/S : To our Malaysian die hard fan,Im not blame our team but im just blame for this called "Tabung" doh.gif
Im Muslim,if in my hand now got rm5,i better choose sedekah my money to Masjid/anak yatim

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post Jan 4 2011, 04:57 PM

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baru sekarang nak mula berlagak miskin dan warak
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post Jan 4 2011, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 4 2011, 04:57 PM)
baru sekarang nak mula berlagak miskin dan warak
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Naa...see...
my comment already butthurt Malaysia Die Hard Fan laugh.gif

pls la kawan...im not put statement there im Miskin or warak
but my main issue now,for this tabung laugh.gif
where is our government?
thats the main point now laugh.gif
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post Jan 4 2011, 05:05 PM

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wow..

government gak yang kene?

kalo nak derma, derma je la..
kalo taknak, takpe.. tak paksa pun..
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post Jan 4 2011, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(Nuclear_Crap @ Jan 4 2011, 05:02 PM)
Naa...see...
my comment already butthurt Malaysia Die Hard Fan laugh.gif

pls la kawan...im not put statement there im Miskin or warak
but my main issue now,for this tabung laugh.gif
where is our government?
thats the main point now laugh.gif
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i like!!
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post Jan 4 2011, 05:08 PM

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bersedekah la pada mereka yg lebih memerlukan..
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post Jan 4 2011, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(freak-a-leash @ Jan 4 2011, 05:05 PM)
wow..

government gak yang kene?

kalo nak derma, derma je la..
kalo taknak, takpe.. tak paksa pun..
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mmg aku mengaku x derma pun tongue.gif
ni open forum..so aku rasa x salah bg pendapat/pandangan biggrin.gif

Even kat vote tu pun ramai yg tak setuju dr setuju
mungkin diaorg ada pendapat diaorng jgak
tapi malas nak panjang lebar kan,as u know ramai sngt keyboard warrior tongue.gif
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post Jan 4 2011, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(Nuclear_Crap @ Jan 4 2011, 05:02 PM)
Naa...see...
my comment already butthurt Malaysia Die Hard Fan laugh.gif

pls la kawan...im not put statement there im Miskin or warak
but my main issue now,for this tabung laugh.gif
where is our government?
thats the main point now laugh.gif
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gov already give them 5k each

complain excusese bla bla bla yada yada yada yawn.gif
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post Jan 4 2011, 05:13 PM

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goverment already give money still not enough ...
Now asking duit rakyat for derma ... come on ...
Is just a AFF cup ... Not world cup lah ...
biar betul ... hmm.gif rclxub.gif doh.gif
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post Jan 4 2011, 05:13 PM

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u masih naif ke? nak minta duit? pergi hantar memo bagi najib atau dato shaberry . suruh mereka bagi duit lah..apasal nak rakyat bagi pulak? tak common sense betul.. vmad.gif
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QUOTE(Nuclear_Crap @ Jan 4 2011, 05:08 PM)
mmg aku mengaku x derma pun tongue.gif
ni open forum..so aku rasa x salah bg pendapat/pandangan biggrin.gif

Even kat vote tu pun ramai yg tak setuju dr setuju
mungkin diaorg ada pendapat diaorng jgak
tapi malas nak panjang lebar kan,as u know ramai sngt keyboard warrior tongue.gif
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aku paham.. tp statement kau tu mcm nak menyalahkan government..
ko kene paham gak.. government tak boleh senang2 je bg juta2 kat player malaysia..
bg cuti sehari pun dah jadi isu..

btw.. tajuk vote tu " Have u donated?"... bukannye setuju ke tak setuju..

just my 2cents..

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u all sounds like typical malaysian who despise their own football. i feel disappointed when u guys started being hypocrite

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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 4 2011, 05:10 PM)
gov already give them 5k each

complain excusese bla bla bla yada yada yada yawn.gif
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5kk? only???
Ceremony x abis2 lg,berita sukan semua cover AFF cup..but 5k only?
kenapa government tak mintak semua surat khabar (esp Harian Metro & Kosmo and seangkatan) up kat muka depan "MALAYSIA MENANG AFF CUP 2010, PEMAIN DAPAT 5K" laugh.gif
why???
even this tabung also if im not mistake,not from them but SAM!!!
coz SAM also kesian they just get 5k only...
beli kapcai yamaha LC also x lepas..

Abg Akace,can u compare with Indo/Vietnam i stated above?
diaorng nak bagi semangat kat pemain diaorng,diaorng bleh bagi ratus ribu each person if they winning cup
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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 4 2011, 05:16 PM)
u all sounds like typical malaysian who despise their own football.
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If goverment didn't pay anything maybe rakyat or party party will...
but now is different ... got pay ..
Now asking more ...
u go and told ppl to derma ... tengoklah apa rakyat akan cakap ...
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semua duit dah masuk poket "mereka" lah.. lu ingat gomen kita baik ke? naif betul.. kerjayaan pasukan malaysia menang bukan pasal gomen! itu pasal team malaysia main baik! !
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QUOTE(freak-a-leash @ Jan 4 2011, 05:15 PM)
aku paham.. tp statement kau tu mcm nak menyalahkan government..
ko kene paham gak.. government tak boleh senang2 je bg juta2 kat player malaysia..
bg cuti sehari pun dah jadi isu..
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tu ler masalahnya..aku pun paham maksud ko tu tongue.gif
cuba klau ari tu takde wujud tabung SAM ni,xde la wujud isu government bg 5k tu

bg aku cuti tu just cover up for New year cuti je,since New year jatuh ari sabtu
(x semua company keje for ari sabtu termasuk aku)
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QUOTE(vampireffect @ Jan 4 2011, 05:18 PM)
semua duit dah masuk poket "mereka" lah.. lu ingat gomen kita baik ke? naif betul.. kerjayaan pasukan malaysia menang bukan pasal gomen! itu pasal team malaysia main baik! !
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and i'm sure that u're such a nice person whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Nuclear_Crap @ Jan 4 2011, 05:16 PM)
5kk? only???
Ceremony x abis2 lg,berita sukan semua cover AFF cup..but 5k only?
kenapa government tak mintak semua surat khabar (esp Harian Metro & Kosmo and seangkatan) up kat muka depan "MALAYSIA MENANG AFF CUP 2010, PEMAIN DAPAT 5K" laugh.gif
why???
even this tabung also if im not mistake,not from them but SAM!!!
coz SAM also kesian they just get 5k only...
beli kapcai yamaha LC also x lepas..

Abg Akace,can u compare with Indo/Vietnam i stated above?
diaorng nak bagi semangat kat pemain diaorng,diaorng bleh bagi ratus ribu each person if they winning cup
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kalo gov bagi banyak2, ko jugak yg complain

"setakat menang asean cup nak bagi sampai beratus ribu"
"jgn bagi byk sgt. nanti dorang jadi manja"
"hutang negara dah 400 juta pun gov boleh bagi ganjaran beratus ribu"
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QUOTE(Nuclear_Crap @ Jan 4 2011, 05:16 PM)
5kk? only???
Ceremony x abis2 lg,berita sukan semua cover AFF cup..but 5k only?
kenapa government tak mintak semua surat khabar (esp Harian Metro & Kosmo and seangkatan) up kat muka depan "MALAYSIA MENANG AFF CUP 2010, PEMAIN DAPAT 5K" laugh.gif
why???
even this tabung also if im not mistake,not from them but SAM!!!
coz SAM also kesian they just get 5k only...
beli kapcai yamaha LC also x lepas..

Abg Akace,can u compare with Indo/Vietnam i stated above?
diaorng nak bagi semangat kat pemain diaorng,diaorng bleh bagi ratus ribu each person if they winning cup
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If everytime need something then only can win ...
no point play football or any sports ...
They or we should play for the country and depend how much goverment want to pay ...
Goverment give 5k to show tht goverment recognize them ... No necessary need few hundred thoudsand ....
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Serius sumbangan ni kelakar?.....

Kalu rakyat malaysia yg bayar, baik rakyat malaysia yg jadi pengerusi FAM, suruh yg duduk kat atas tuh semua turun skrang....buat malu je
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QUOTE(ashportal @ Jan 4 2011, 05:22 PM)
Serius sumbangan ni kelakar?.....

Kalu rakyat malaysia yg bayar, baik rakyat malaysia yg jadi pengerusi FAM, suruh yg duduk kat atas tuh semua turun skrang....buat malu je
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QUOTE(ashportal @ Jan 4 2011, 05:22 PM)
Serius sumbangan ni kelakar?.....

Kalu rakyat malaysia yg bayar, baik rakyat malaysia yg jadi pengerusi FAM, suruh yg duduk kat atas tuh semua turun skrang....buat malu je
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QUOTE(Nuclear_Crap @ Jan 4 2011, 05:20 PM)
tu ler masalahnya..aku pun paham maksud ko tu tongue.gif
cuba klau ari tu takde wujud tabung SAM ni,xde la wujud isu government bg 5k tu

bg aku cuti tu just cover up for New year cuti je,since New year jatuh ari sabtu
(x semua company keje for ari sabtu termasuk aku)
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tabung SAM ni wujud atas arahan government ke atau dari SAM sendiri?

Added on January 4, 2011, 5:25 pm
QUOTE(ashportal @ Jan 4 2011, 05:22 PM)
Serius sumbangan ni kelakar?.....

Kalu rakyat malaysia yg bayar, baik rakyat malaysia yg jadi pengerusi FAM, suruh yg duduk kat atas tuh semua turun skrang....buat malu je
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ko gi la bayar, pastu ko boleh la jadi pengerusi FAM.. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 4 2011, 05:21 PM)
kalo gov bagi banyak2, ko jugak yg complain

"setakat menang asean cup nak bagi sampai beratus ribu"
"jgn bagi byk sgt. nanti dorang jadi manja"
"hutang negara dah 400 juta pun gov boleh bagi ganjaran beratus ribu"
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aku takde plak suruh bagi smpai ratus ribu bro...
but biar berbaloi la....dgn keringat
5k for AFF cup....summore need to wait 14 years to get
like they give Gold Medallist for Asian University Games la...

so for that,if Malaysia menang ASIA CUP later?
10k?
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ni semua bukannye ape. sebelum ni, dorang benci pasukan malaysia. bila malaysia menang aff suzuki cup, they have to eat their own words and it is hard to be swallowed. so, this is the time where they can "retaliate"

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QUOTE(freak-a-leash @ Jan 4 2011, 05:24 PM)
tabung SAM ni wujud atas arahan government ke atau dari SAM sendiri?

Added on January 4, 2011, 5:25 pm

ko gi la bayar, pastu ko boleh la jadi pengerusi FAM..  whistling.gif
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aku pun tak tau tongue.gif
tapi ari tu dlm paper shabery chik yg beriya iya cakap
tah dia derma ke idak tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 4 2011, 05:27 PM)
ni semua bukannye ape. sebelum ni, dorang benci pasukan malaysia. bila malaysia menang aff suzuki cup, they have to eat their own words and it is hard to be swallowed. so, this is the time where they can "retaliate"

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aku fan malaysia forever biggrin.gif
pegi gak stadium,jerit2 gak... tanah tumpahnya darahku tongue.gif
even masa zaman kejatuhan lg aku dah support...
benda yg biasa..x yah nak kecoh2 cool2.gif


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QUOTE(Nuclear_Crap @ Jan 4 2011, 05:31 PM)
aku fan malaysia forever biggrin.gif
pegi gak stadium,jerit2 gak... tanah tumpahnya darahku tongue.gif
even masa zaman kejatuhan lg aku dah support...
benda yg biasa..x yah nak kecoh2 cool2.gif
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pptttuuuiiiiii. tak pernah tgk ko punye post kat malaysian football thread
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QUOTE(Nuclear_Crap @ Jan 4 2011, 05:28 PM)
aku pun tak tau tongue.gif
tapi ari tu dlm paper shabery chik yg beriya iya cakap
tah dia derma ke idak tongue.gif
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mungkin SAM hanya refer pada government utk wujudkan tabung ni..
bg pendapat aku, kalo betul niat SAM kumpul duit utk bola sepak malaysia, so apa salahnye..
kalo setakat rm10 tu, gagah gak la aku nak derma.. sedangkan rokok sepuluh hengget pun boleh beli..
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Jan 4 2011, 04:45 PM)

LCW's equivalent to the Suzuki Cup is the Olympic Gold Medal.. the tension in in the air running up to that final vs Lin Dan in Beijing was not much different from the Suzuki Cup final..... the whole country was practically holding our breath for both of them... only the end result different..

Of course it will be weird holding a fundraising after he won the Gold Medal considering government already pledge RM 1 million to each Olympic goal medal..
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dude, this suzuki cup is consider SEA cup, not even asia cup level yet.

of course credit must given to the team since long time the national team no such glory, but to ask malaysian donate money to them ... is kinda nonsense

there still a lot malaysian out there starving for food ...
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QUOTE(kcpanadol @ Jan 4 2011, 05:21 PM)
If everytime need something then only can win ...
no point play football or any sports ...
They or we should play for the country and depend how much goverment want to pay ...
Goverment give 5k to show tht goverment recognize them ... No necessary need few hundred thoudsand ....
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this not zaman 60/70an..main sepenuh hati dengan menyarung jersi negara masing2,tapi x dpt apa pun..dpt medal je..
thats why for the 90' era we "seat" at the back Indon/Vietnam/Thai even SINGAPORE also!!

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Lawak seh. Pasal derma pun gaduh. Chill guys.

Just wonder why not fan club sendiri yang organize?
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mungkin SAM hanya refer pada government utk wujudkan tabung ni..
bg pendapat aku, kalo betul niat SAM kumpul duit utk bola sepak malaysia, so apa salahnye..
kalo setakat rm10 tu, gagah gak la aku nak derma.. sedangkan rokok sepuluh hengget pun boleh beli..
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Pii lah ... baik aku derma kat rumah yatim ...
dahlah dapat 5 k ... .nak lagi pula tu
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it is easy to be a philantrophist from behind the confines of a keyboard
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QUOTE(Nuclear_Crap @ Jan 4 2011, 04:55 PM)
we already donate for their pembangunan sukan
from rakyat money===))))cukai/tax/bills/etc..blablabla
so government shud responsible this
bring this MEMO to najib,not to us (rakyat)

Seriously,im proud Malaysia now KING of East Asian..credit to our boys rclxms.gif
but this issue (Tabung Ganjaran Akujanji) like they minta sedekah/simpati to us
i totally not agree with this
Poor country compare to us like Indon and Vietnam their government can give big amount $$ if they can win any cup.
wht not us? (our government)

P/S : To our Malaysian die hard fan,Im not blame our team but im just blame for this called "Tabung" doh.gif
Im Muslim,if in my hand now got rm5,i better choose sedekah my money to Masjid/anak yatim

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most of the players do graduate from government funded SSBJ. So the G do had a big hand in the development cost. But, IMO, that's reasonable spending. Our society really reached a new low if we start being stingy about our tax money used for schools..

KBS do give a reward of Rm 5k for each player for the win. That is the standard amount for regional championship i guess. And, if you haven't read the memo, our government really don't have a lot of money now. Budgets cut kept increasing from year to year now in most government agency.

Don't see the Tabung as mintak sedekah. They certainly don't ask for it. See it as an excellent opportunity for us to PERSONALLY participate in celebrating in away that truly REACHING them. Compare that to saying "Good job thumbup.gif " in LYN or in front of your TV each time they replay that Safee Sali goal..

BTW.. i dont mind if you have an extra RM 5 and you decide to truly give to anak yatim instead..wink.gif

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pptttuuuiiiiii. tak pernah tgk ko punye post kat malaysian football thread
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paham tak bahasa aku??
benda ni pun takkan nak kecoh2??
nak tunjukkan aku ni fan malaysia,aku kena post kat thread tu ler?kena bgtau korang aku g stadium ler??
kenapa ari tu ko g Bukit Jalil tak tanya org2 yg dkat 90k tu nak masuk tgk bola..."Wei,ko dah post blum kat lowyat.net?klau blum g balik...ko bukan fan Malaysia"

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Pii lah ... baik aku derma kat rumah yatim ...
dahlah dapat 5 k ... .nak lagi pula tu
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apa masalah ko? ko taknak derma, sudah la..
ada org paksa ko? stop being childish la..
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bersedekah la pada mereka yg lebih memerlukan..
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masalahnye ramai bersedekah pada mereka yg lebih memerlukan pon tidakk... wink.gif

kalau sebab malas nak derma kat tabung ni, tabung anak yatim plak yang tetiba naik, aku pon suka jugak...
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paham tak bahasa aku??
benda ni pun takkan nak kecoh2??
nak tunjukkan aku ni fan malaysia,aku kena post kat thread tu ler?kena bgtau korang aku g stadium ler??
kenapa ari tu ko g Bukit Jalil tak tanya org2 yg dkat 90k tu nak masuk tgk bola..."Wei,ko dah post blum kat lowyat.net?klau blum g balik...ko bukan fan Malaysia"

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i guess u are gloryhunter. i bet u will leave the stadium immediately if indonesia lead 2-0 in the 45th minute

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Jan 4 2011, 05:41 PM)
masalahnye ramai bersedekah pada mereka yg lebih memerlukan pon tidakk... wink.gif

kalau sebab malas nak derma kat tabung ni, tabung anak yatim plak yang tetiba naik, aku pon suka jugak...
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they all are just hypocrite. it is easy to be a philantrophist behind the confines of a keyboard

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apa masalah ko? ko taknak derma, sudah la..
ada org paksa ko? stop being childish la..
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Dosa derma kat dia orang ...
mereka bukannya perlu duit ni sangat ...
rumah yatim is in deep need then them ....
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Dosa derma kat dia orang ...
mereka bukannya perlu duit ni sangat ...
rumah yatim is in deep need then them ....
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pergghh.. DOSA derma kat dia org? doh.gif
bang... umur abang berapa?
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i guess u are gloryhunter. i bet u will leave the stadium immediately if indonesia lead 2-0 in the 45th minute
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what ever bro..
selalunya orang yg kecoh2 ni..ati kecik
dah kalah,mula nak bakar seat,rosakkan harta benda stadium
tak semestinya yg senyap tu...xde apa apa
aku pegi tgk bola..bukan jadi beruk kat stadium tongue.gif

Aku plak tak tau la apa ko buat ari tu klau Indon lead 2-0.. tongue.gif


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Serius sumbangan ni kelakar?.....

Kalu rakyat malaysia yg bayar, baik rakyat malaysia yg jadi pengerusi FAM, suruh yg duduk kat atas tuh semua turun skrang....buat malu je
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yang kat atas tu nanti akan bagi sumbangan personal die jugak nanti.. jangan risau... IIRC, untuk Sukan Sea, die personally bagi RM 30k seorang....

kita takat RM 10 takkan takleh kot....
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haha relax guys.. this is more to sponsorship type tp yg aku klakar diorg gune name tabung.. mane2 tmpt pn mntk sponsor, astro pn byk sponsor.. so kalu korg rase nk bg, bg je la jgn nk salah kn sape2..
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what ever bro..
selalunya orang yg kecoh2 ni..ati kecik
dah kalah,mula nak bakar seat,rosakkan harta benda stadium
tak semestinya yg senyap tu...xde apa apa
aku pegi tgk bola..bukan jadi beruk kat stadium tongue.gif

Aku plak tak tau la apa ko buat ari tu klau Indon lead 2-0.. tongue.gif
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Nak derma, derma la. taknak sudah. Nama pun derma. Bukan paksa pun.
tapi bagi aku ni mentaliti rakyat Malaysia. Orang dapat duit kita jeles.
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dude, this suzuki cup is consider SEA cup, not even asia cup level yet.

of course credit must given to the team since long time the national team no such glory,  but to ask malaysian donate money to them ... is kinda nonsense

there still a lot malaysian out there starving for food ...
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yes.. even at SEA level, it is a cup that means so much to all the people... its definately more prestige than winning the 'long boat' world cup or 'kabbadi' universe cup for example... due respect to long boat and kabbadi enthusiast ... have you ever been in a time when one sporting event can touch soo many Malaysian hearts like that in the whole of your life?... Only Thomas Cup 1992.... Chong Wei vs Lin Dan - Beijing 2008 and ...Suzuki Cup 2010 come to mind... all of them worth 1 day celebration holiday.

What is the best way to celebrate them then.. posting in LYN ?
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Nak derma, derma la. taknak sudah. Nama pun derma. Bukan paksa pun.
tapi bagi aku ni mentaliti rakyat Malaysia. Orang dapat duit kita jeles.
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Nak derma, derma la. taknak sudah. Nama pun derma. Bukan paksa pun.
tapi bagi aku ni mentaliti rakyat Malaysia. Orang dapat duit kita jeles.
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majority of them RM5000 per month while we just get RM1500-RM3000
it sound weird when the poor give money to the rich
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donated as soon as i see this smile.gif
do hope to see them do more good in the future. those guys made me damn proud of my red blue white and yellow!


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donated as soon as i see this smile.gif
do hope to see them do more good in the future. those guys made me damn proud of my red blue white and yellow!
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hahaahah .... u go and derma keh .... piiii lah
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sapa ader reliable link untuk website derma anak2 yatim? aku nak letak dekat first post.....
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majority of them RM5000 per month while we just get RM1500-RM3000
it sound weird when the poor give money to the rich
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Apa ke masalah kcpanadol ni. It's a choice la. Xnak derma sudahla....apahal lak nak cari pasal kat sini. Benda tu bukannya paksaan pun.
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majority of them RM5000 per month while we just get RM1500-RM3000
it sound weird when the poor give money to the rich
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they only worth RM5000/month until they turn 35... or until they wreck their knees... whichever comes first...

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Nak derma, derma la. taknak sudah. Nama pun derma. Bukan paksa pun.
tapi bagi aku ni mentaliti rakyat Malaysia. Orang dapat duit kita jeles.
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tu la... berat sangat nak lepas RM 10 tu....

menang nak.. complain pandai.... sendiri contribute?

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hahaahah .... u go and derma keh .... piiii lah
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whats wrong with me donating? do i need a proof of donating to shut you up? its my decision and if you are not fond of giving some to them then stop whining about people who truly wants the best from our guys. its a way of showing my support to MY countrymen, if you cant do the same then shame on you.
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tunggu ape lagi. derma la kat rumah anak yatim tu. tadi beriya-iya kata lagi baik derma kat anak yatim
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u masih naif ke? nak minta duit? pergi hantar memo bagi najib atau dato shaberry . suruh mereka bagi duit lah..apasal nak rakyat bagi pulak? tak common sense betul.. vmad.gif
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kalau guna duit kerajaan.. memang jelas guna duit rakyat.. tapi 'tabung' ni.. rakyat sendiri yang ikhlas nak bagi.... kalau macam tu lebih 'cantik' aku rase... smile.gif

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Aku vote no , tp kalau ada not yet lg bagus.
Balik karang aku derma . Derma sambil memandu sgt bahaya...
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tunggu ape lagi. derma la kat rumah anak yatim tu. tadi beriya-iya kata lagi baik derma kat anak yatim
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how about you, dont want to derma to anak yatim
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Aku vote no , tp kalau ada not yet lg bagus.
Balik karang aku derma . Derma sambil memandu sgt bahaya...
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begitu juga posting dekat LYN sambil memandu ..smile.gif

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bagi derma pun semata-mata nak elak dari tabung akujanji. tak ikhlas tu. sia2 je la
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bagi derma pun semata-mata nak elak dari tabung akujanji. tak ikhlas tu. sia2 je la
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tak apa bro... asal any sort of real pen'derma'an berlaku.. tak ada masalah... janji bukan keyboard worrior semata2...
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bila x derma kata x support team malaysia, glory hunter,
dah derma kata x ikhlas plak..
adoi..

ikut korang la.

dah macam budak2 jek gaduh pasal ni..

sorry kalau terkasar bahasa..

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bila x derma kata x support team malaysia, glory hunter,
dah derma kata x ikhlas plak..
adoi..

ikut korang la.

dah macam budak2 jek gaduh pasal ni..

sorry kalau terkasar bahasa..

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bro derma kepada anak yatim ke.. tahniahh.... rclxms.gif
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bila x derma kata x support team malaysia, glory hunter,
dah derma kata x ikhlas plak..
adoi..

ikut korang la.

dah macam budak2 jek gaduh pasal ni..

sorry kalau terkasar bahasa..

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gua tak suka la cara dorang komen. macam memperkecilkan kejayaan pemain kita pulak
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tunggu ape lagi. derma la kat rumah anak yatim tu. tadi beriya-iya kata lagi baik derma kat anak yatim
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lol... derma pun gaduh. lagi satu derma pn nak menunjuk2
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lol... derma pun gaduh. lagi satu derma pn nak menunjuk2
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The way I see it, ade people akan gunakan peluang ni utk kenakan gomen.

No offense pada yang mengutuk, THIS IS A CHOICE. Nak derma, go ahead. Tanak, diam. Jangan la pulak nak tuding2 jari kat gomen ape kebende. The best part, ade plak aku terbaca post yang cakap cuti peristiwa yang Najib bagi aritu cover utk New Year? WTF?

Korang ni hipokrit syal. Aku jujur la cakap. Malaysians skang ni ramai yang dah opportunist. Baik Melayu, Cina & India. Kalau ade profit/benefit kat diri sendri baru OK, kalo tak wat derk je.

Aku nampak usaha ni sebagai nak memajukan industri bolasepak negara. Amek contoh liga-liga Eropah sudah. Dorang dapat banyak giler benefits ngan main utk certain teams. Kenapa kita tak boleh buat bende yang sama?

Pastu nak crite pasal duit tax? Brape yang korang contribute setahun? Itu pun dah bising nak mampus. Kalau duduk kat UK or negara2 yang kuat tax lagi la dah memekak kot. That's why orang2 kat sana banyak benefit, dorang kene tax tinggi. Kita kat Malaysia, tax tak berapa nak tinggi tapi bising mintak 1st class punya benefits lah. Tapi mentality sumenye 3rd class.

Itu baru cite pasal tax. Yang dok alim giler tadi, ZAKAT PENDAPATAN yang 2.5% tu ade bayar ke? Kalo takde, diam. Takyah nak pura-pura alim. Takat bayar zakat fitrah tiap kali Ramadhan/Syawal takyah nak bising cam alim sangat.

Simple as, nak derma, dermalah. Tanak derma, diam.

Kepada TS, maybe LYN ni bukan cenel yang terbaik utk salurkan bende ni. Tengok je la issue2 kat RWI ngan Kopitiam. No offense, tp forums ni selalu nye cam tempat orang utk b****ing/whining about their dissatisfactions. Sama cam blog, tweeter and FB. Nice effort in bringing up this.
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jan 4 2011, 07:11 PM)
Kepada TS, maybe LYN ni bukan cenel yang terbaik utk salurkan bende ni. Tengok je la issue2 kat RWI ngan Kopitiam. No offense, tp forums ni selalu nye cam tempat orang utk b****ing/whining about their dissatisfactions. Sama cam blog, tweeter and FB. Nice effort in bringing up this.
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Sometimes, cenel yang bukan kita anggap terbaik tu sebenarnye medan yang paling sesuai untuk kita buat sesuatu.. aku boleh je sebarkan bende ni kat kat dalam kepompong kubu kuat peminat bola mesia sahaja.... tapi aku rase kat sini lagi value added... awareness akan lebih bertambah...

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bersedekah la pada mereka yg lebih memerlukan..
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jan 4 2011, 07:11 PM)
The way I see it, ade people akan gunakan peluang ni utk kenakan gomen.

No offense pada yang mengutuk, THIS IS A CHOICE. Nak derma, go ahead. Tanak, diam. Jangan la pulak nak tuding2 jari kat gomen ape kebende. The best part, ade plak aku terbaca post yang cakap cuti peristiwa yang Najib bagi aritu cover utk New Year? WTF?

Korang ni hipokrit syal. Aku jujur la cakap. Malaysians skang ni ramai yang dah opportunist. Baik Melayu, Cina & India. Kalau ade profit/benefit kat diri sendri baru OK, kalo tak wat derk je.

Aku nampak usaha ni sebagai nak memajukan industri bolasepak negara. Amek contoh liga-liga Eropah sudah. Dorang dapat banyak giler benefits ngan main utk certain teams. Kenapa kita tak boleh buat bende yang sama?

Pastu nak crite pasal duit tax? Brape yang korang contribute setahun? Itu pun dah bising nak mampus. Kalau duduk kat UK or negara2 yang kuat tax lagi la dah memekak kot. That's why orang2 kat sana banyak benefit, dorang kene tax tinggi. Kita kat Malaysia, tax tak berapa nak tinggi tapi bising mintak 1st class punya benefits lah. Tapi mentality sumenye 3rd class.

Itu baru cite pasal tax. Yang dok alim giler tadi, ZAKAT PENDAPATAN yang 2.5% tu ade bayar ke? Kalo takde, diam. Takyah nak pura-pura alim. Takat bayar zakat fitrah tiap kali Ramadhan/Syawal takyah nak bising cam alim sangat.

Simple as, nak derma, dermalah. Tanak derma, diam.

Kepada TS, maybe LYN ni bukan cenel yang terbaik utk salurkan bende ni. Tengok je la issue2 kat RWI ngan Kopitiam. No offense, tp forums ni selalu nye cam tempat orang utk b****ing/whining about their dissatisfactions. Sama cam blog, tweeter and FB. Nice effort in bringing up this.
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post Jan 4 2011, 08:12 PM

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IMHO, derma is not the right word for that tabung.. its a reward, or maybe present.. (ganjaran = reward =/=derma). no?

if that is the case, then its not the same case with poor give money to rich, etc, etc... its like we give present to someone we like/love, on a special occasion, and that person might be richer than us, maybe friend, parent, our boss..

but i opt not to do it (yet).. me also not really rich yet..heheh
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jan 4 2011, 06:03 PM)
majority of them RM5000 per month while we just get RM1500-RM3000
it sound weird when the poor give money to the rich
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u need to know, dorang punya 5K permonth doesnt last for long (maybe just 1 injury, then Walllllaaa, byebye)while we, us..sampai retire lah, 55..do the count,
bagi or not, up to u..if you truly would like to appreciate what they did, then you will donate without hesitation. kan senang.

lagipun kat depan dah tulis
Orang ramai boleh menyumbang melalui akaun CIMB SAM
bukannya Orang ramai MESTI menyumbang melalui akaun CIMB SAM
it souund weird when orang tidak paksa derma pun kena cakap macam dorng memaksa poor give money to rich icon_rolleyes.gif

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Don't ask what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

Kalau boleh beli jersi Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, MU ori mahal2 siap terbang ke Old Trafford lg nk tengok perlawanan live. Awat x boleh nk derma RM10 kt pemain Malaysia? Kalau xnk derma sudah jangan nak fitnah pihak lain. Siap masuk politik2 lagi, tah pape. X leh bezakan satu isu lain dgn yang lain.
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dont blame gov please. kita bukan negara maju. this is the beginning for a bright future..who knows.
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QUOTE(choy89 @ Jan 4 2011, 08:34 PM)
u need to know, dorang punya 5K permonth doesnt last for long (maybe just 1 injury, then Walllllaaa, byebye)while we, us..sampai retire lah, 55..do the count,
bagi or not, up to u..if you truly would like to appreciate what they did, then you will donate without hesitation. kan senang.

lagipun kat depan dah tulis
Orang ramai boleh menyumbang melalui akaun CIMB SAM
bukannya Orang ramai MESTI menyumbang melalui akaun CIMB SAM
it souund weird when orang tidak paksa derma pun kena cakap macam dorng memaksa poor give money to rich icon_rolleyes.gif
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Pasal benda nie pun nak gaduh..

Rilek ar kawan.

Nak bagi. Bagi. Tak nak bagi. Tak payah.

Aku fikir lar.. Kalau orang Indonesia selamba je bagi sumbangan.
Tengok bola kat stadium pun sanggup bergolok-gadai.
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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 4 2011, 09:19 PM)
aku off topic kejap. takde kene mengena dgn forumers kat sini.

masa final aff suzuki cup hari tu, ade jugak yg komplen pasal harga tiket naik dari rm 15 ---> rm 30. dorang kata sepatutnya harga tiket rm 10 supaya semua rakyat malaysia boleh tengok (ayat bajet marhaen konon). tiket manure lwn Malaysia beratus hengget takde pulak nak komplen
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i can accept if they rise because a logic reason, but if the ticket RM10 some student from IPTA can come and make it fullhouse

last time FAM rise the final match ticket because want to make it look elite
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jan 4 2011, 09:39 PM)
i can accept if they rise because a logic reason, but if the ticket RM10 some student from IPTA can come and make it fullhouse

last time FAM rise the final match ticket because want to make it look elite
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Student IPTA skang kaya raya je. Lelagi dari UiTM. Don't bluff lah. Been there, done that.

Kalau dapat duit loan/scholar boleh beli bende mahal2, tiket rm30 xleh? Skang ni it's more to choices. Which one yang that person nampak value for money. That said, kekadang dorang ni beli hape2 ntah or masuk skim MLM. So, alasan tu memang xlogik, at least bagi aku. Itu blom lagi nak amek kira of those yang gi social parties ke ape.
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jan 4 2011, 09:44 PM)
Student IPTA skang kaya raya je. Lelagi dari UiTM. Don't bluff lah. Been there, done that.

Kalau dapat duit loan/scholar boleh beli bende mahal2, tiket rm30 xleh? Skang ni it's more to choices. Which one yang that person nampak value for money. That said, kekadang dorang ni beli hape2 ntah or masuk skim MLM. So, alasan tu memang xlogik, at least bagi aku. Itu blom lagi nak amek kira of those yang gi social parties ke ape.
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i speak with my own expereince (study in UPM 2002-2005), got RM3500 per semester, pay fee RM1200 the balance RM2300 divide four month RM575/month, with RM575 per month live in KL cry.gif
not all people afford it even it just RM30

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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jan 4 2011, 09:54 PM)
i speak with my own expereince (study in UPM 2002-2005), got RM3500 per semester, pay fee RM1200 the balance RM2300 divide four month RM575/month, with RM575 per month live in KL cry.gif
not all people afford it even it just RM30
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bro, fees aku dulu RM2000++ per semester. loan lebih kurang sama cam ko gak. KL gak. but still manage to save here and there. cam aku cakap, how you live your life. it depends on choices. kalo nak idup lavishly cam those yang berduit, memang susah lah.


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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jan 4 2011, 10:02 PM)
bro, fees aku dulu RM2000++ per semester. loan lebih kurang sama cam ko gak. KL gak. but still manage to save here and there. cam aku cakap, how you live your life. it depends on choices. kalo nak idup lavishly cam those yang berduit, memang susah lah.
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yeah, that why i didnt idup lavishly cam those yang berduit
luckily now i can go watch state team every time they play at home rclxm9.gif
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Dia tulis Sportswriter kan?
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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 4 2011, 09:19 PM)
aku off topic kejap. takde kene mengena dgn forumers kat sini.

masa final aff suzuki cup hari tu, ade jugak yg komplen pasal harga tiket naik dari rm 15 ---> rm 30. dorang kata sepatutnya harga tiket rm 10 supaya semua rakyat malaysia boleh tengok (ayat bajet marhaen konon). tiket manure lwn Malaysia beratus hengget takde pulak nak komplen
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ke ko yg complain... laugh.gif
jgn hangat2 taik ayam dah ler..masa menang disanjung
dan2 ler avatar,signature suma tukar
jgn "terlalu butthurt sangat" apa yg aku komen
as i know,aku sebagai anak jati malaysia,aku berhak nak bgtau pendapat/pandangan aku
aku pun xde pun kata aku tentang sngt2 benda ni,terpulang la nak bg

Tak semestinya duduk diam x sokong,tak semestinya yg bising,melalak tu sokong 100%


peace bro icon_rolleyes.gif ..we are malaysian

Off Topic : To assendro10,i salute u,even ur thread get negative comment (proof on ur pool now,i can say more than 70% tottally not agree with this,but u stay cool thumbup.gif )


End Of The Story :
Aku dgn bangganya mengumumkan,aku takkan derma duit aku walau sesen pun thumbup.gif
Hak aku,duit aku,suka hati aku thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Nuclear_Crap @ Jan 4 2011, 10:18 PM)
ke ko yg complain... laugh.gif
jgn hangat2 taik ayam dah ler..masa menang disanjung
dan2 ler avatar,signature suma tukar
jgn "terlalu butthurt sangat" apa yg aku komen
as i know,aku sebagai anak jati malaysia,aku berhak nak bgtau pendapat/pandangan aku
aku pun xde pun kata aku tentang sngt2 benda ni,terpulang la nak bg

Tak semestinya duduk diam x sokong,tak semestinya yg bising,melalak tu sokong 100%
peace bro icon_rolleyes.gif ..we are malaysian

Off Topic : To assendro10,i salute u,even ur thread get negative comment (proof on ur pool now,i can say 70% tottally not agree with this,but u stay cool thumbup.gif )
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lu tuduh gua gloryhunter? aku ts malaysian football thread

kalau tak nak bagi, ko patut diam awal2 lagi. jgn pulak mulut macam p4ntat ayam. ape2 pun, malaysia negara demokrasi. ko nak bagi, bagi je la. tak nak bagi, polis tak tangkap pun

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aku ingat lagi ada kelab2 di liga bawahan Inggeris yang buat tabung untuk selamatkan kelab mereka daripada bankrap. Aku x ingat nama kelab tu. Tapi penyokong2 setia diorang sanggup hulurkan duit poket sendiri.
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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 4 2011, 10:23 PM)
lu tuduh gua gloryhunter? aku ts malaysian football thread
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tak kisah apa pendapat ko..
tak semestinya semua pemikiran sama mcm ko..
1 benda yg aku tau,walau lain2 pendapat/pandangan ko..aku..and ts and forumers here..we are malaysian thumbup.gif

Ditekan sekali lagi,aku support team tanah tumpah darah aku,tp aku x support untuk Tabung ni rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(Nuclear_Crap @ Jan 4 2011, 10:28 PM)
tak kisah apa pendapat ko..
tak semestinya semua pemikiran sama mcm ko..
1 benda yg aku tau,walau lain2 pendapat/pandangan ko..aku..and ts and forumers here..we are malaysian thumbup.gif

Ditekan sekali lagi,aku support team tanah tumpah darah aku,tp aku x support untuk Tabung ni rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 4 2011, 10:23 PM)
lu tuduh gua gloryhunter? aku ts malaysian football thread

kalau tak nak bagi, ko patut diam awal2 lagi. jgn pulak mulut macam p4ntat ayam. ape2 pun, malaysia negara demokrasi. ko nak bagi, bagi je la. tak nak bagi, polis tak tangkap pun
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x yah nak carut2 sini..
ko student ke..?klau student aku rasa mmg patut la mulut ko mcm p***
dah keje,dah ada anak bini tau la camner ko kena commit

terlalu ramai sngt keyboard warior kat sini.....


Jgn cakap je lebih,tah derma tak idak..klau setakat lima hengget baik ko pikir diri ko yg terumbang ambing tu
beli nasi bungkus lg bagus..(tuk ko la)

ko defend beriya iya pun ada FAM kisah kat ko ke?makan ke idak?dorang bg ko elaun ke?
ke ko ngan anuar musa sepupu rapat?
hahaha..statement plg maut nih biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Nuclear_Crap @ Jan 4 2011, 10:32 PM)
x yah nak carut2 sini..
ko student ke..?klau student aku rasa mmg patut la mulut ko mcm p***
dah keje,dah ada anak bini tau la camner ko kena commit

terlalu ramai sngt keyboard warior kat sini.....
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sape yg paling banyak merungut, mulut dia la yg macam tu
mmg ramai pun keyboard warrior. cakap nak derma kat anak yatim la tapi tak pernah buat pun

aku tak pernah kisah pun dgn FAM. aku cuma sokong bola sepak malaysia. tu je

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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 4 2011, 10:34 PM)
sape yg paling banyak merungut, mulut dia la yg macam tu
mmg ramai pun keyboard warrior. cakap nak derma kat anak yatim la tapi tak pernah buat pun
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at least tiap2 semayang jumaat aku buat derma..atau ko pun miss2 g semayang?
ye lar sibuk analisis team and kena jaga thread kat lowyat ni..
aduyai......good luck to u
may anuar musa realised u in lyn and take u as he PA biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Nuclear_Crap @ Jan 4 2011, 10:18 PM)

Off Topic : To assendro10,i salute u,even ur thread get negative comment (proof on ur pool now,i can say more than 70% tottally not agree with this,but u stay cool thumbup.gif )
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you dont understant... the poll is not the real target of this thread.... the real target is to publicise the SAM fundraising..as the post count already reach more than 100 post, its already doing better than i thought...... there is no such thing as a bad publicity ..wink.gif

and the 7 'YES' is already 6 more than i know before i open this thread..

hmm.... wonder how much 'fun' will i have if i open this thread in /k/. hmm.gif


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QUOTE(Nuclear_Crap @ Jan 4 2011, 10:38 PM)
at least tiap2 semayang jumaat aku buat derma..atau ko pun miss2 g semayang?
ye lar sibuk analisis team and kena jaga thread kat lowyat ni..
aduyai......good luck to u
may anuar musa realised u in lyn and take u as he PA biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 4 2011, 10:41 PM)
whatever yawn.gif
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Don't open in /K/, i beg you. Most of them didn't even watch football but dare to post comment. They just make it as a platform to blame and badmouth National Football, Gov, Najib, FAM etc. Bro AKace also has hard time to keep them quiet, lebih2 lagi yng bawak isu perkauman tu.
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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Jan 4 2011, 10:42 PM)
Don't open in /K/, i beg you. Most of them didn't even watch football but dare to post comment. They just make it as a platform to blame and badmouth National Football, Gov, Najib, FAM etc. Bro AKace also has hard time to keep them quiet, lebih2 lagi yng bawak isu perkauman tu.
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bro Akace had a hard time..?

hehehe.. i though he had the time of his lives owning those guys... rclxms.gif

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Dia tulis Sportswriter kan?
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Sportswriters Association of Malaysia... yes..

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Apahal flaming2 dalam ni? Dah xde life sangat ke wahai keyboard warriors? You suka you bagi, you tak suka you keluar. Very simple.

But I do wonder that how the players will accept the money. I highly doubt they will take it, since they have jobs, and have their own salary. Surely they'd feel macam tak kena je if they accept it. I guess in the end they will donate to Pusat Jagaan Rumah Kesayangan instead. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Jan 4 2011, 10:45 PM)
bro Akace had a hard time..?

hehehe.. i though he had the time of his lives owning those guys... rclxms.gif

Added on January 4, 2011, 10:50 pm

Sportswriters Association of Malaysia... yes..
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Tabung Ganjaran Akujanji ni ape maksudnya? Maksudnya player kena perform ke baru dapat ganjaran tu?
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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 4 2011, 10:23 PM)
lu tuduh gua gloryhunter? aku ts malaysian football thread

kalau tak nak bagi, ko patut diam awal2 lagi. jgn pulak mulut macam p4ntat ayam. ape2 pun, malaysia negara demokrasi. ko nak bagi, bagi je la. tak nak bagi, polis tak tangkap pun
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fuu malaysian football thread TS tu notworthy.gif
i think u r glory hunter drool.gif
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kalau dia x bukak thread tu entah sape la yang akan bukak. Entah2 xde spe pn bukak.
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jan 5 2011, 12:14 AM)
fuu malaysian football thread TS tu notworthy.gif
i think u r glory hunter  drool.gif
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from Barcelona TS laugh.gif

QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Jan 5 2011, 12:18 AM)
kalau dia x bukak thread tu entah sape la yang akan bukak. Entah2 xde spe pn bukak.
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Bukan dia bukak la thread tu, TS asal tah g mampus mana tah, dia ganti lepas mintak kat Mod. Anyhow respect him for the effort notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jan 4 2011, 11:14 PM)
fuu malaysian football thread TS tu notworthy.gif
i think u r glory hunter  drool.gif
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omg i butthurt. a troll well done nod.gif

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pity u glory hunter, where is ur old siggy and avatar, suddenly change it to national team picture after win the cup icon_question.gif
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pity u glory hunter, where is ur old siggy and avatar, suddenly change it to national team picture after win the cup icon_question.gif
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i used this siggy since the first day i joined this forum but if you noticed it. siggy buruk nak mampus sape la yg nampak kan

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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 5 2011, 12:51 AM)
i used this siggy since the first day i joined this forum but if you noticed it. siggy buruk nak mampus sape la yg nampak kan

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damm die hard fan notworthy.gif
but said it buruk nak mampus, how come u as die hard fan kutuk Malaysia siggy doh.gif
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damm die hard fan notworthy.gif
but said it buruk nak mampus, how come u as die hard fan kutuk Malaysia siggy doh.gif
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ko kata aku gloryhunter, aku rasa ko tak pernah perasan siggy tu sebelum ni mungkin pasal siggy tu buruk. nak buat macam mane? tu je le yg aku mampu cari. nak carik siggy bola sepak malaysia yg cantik2 bukan senang macam carik siggy barcelaka
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Tabung Ganjaran Akujanji ni ape maksudnya? Maksudnya player kena perform ke baru dapat ganjaran tu?
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aku ingat lagi ada kelab2 di liga bawahan Inggeris yang buat tabung untuk selamatkan kelab mereka daripada bankrap. Aku x ingat nama kelab tu. Tapi penyokong2 setia diorang sanggup hulurkan duit poket sendiri.
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How can that be the same as this donation? They are clubs, our team is a national team. They were in bankrupt position, Malaysian team is not and will never be. Their resource come from the owners, fans, marketing etc. Our national team sponsored primarily by the government.

I got nothing to against this move but like others, I found this kinda funny and bemusing. Isn't our tax are supposed to cover this? And will the money donated go to the right channel?

But kudos to TS for opening this thread smile.gif

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jan 5 2011, 07:32 AM)
How can that be the same as this donation? They are clubs, our team is a national team. They were in bankrupt position, Malaysian team is not and will never be. Their resource come from the owners, fans, marketing etc. Our national team sponsored primarily by the government.
I got nothing to against this move but like others, I found this kinda funny and bemusing. Isn't our tax are supposed to cover this? And will the money donated go to the right channel?

But kudos to TS for opening this thread  smile.gif
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thats is not true. Government grants only count very little in FAM's annual budget.... even in multisporst events, football is under Cathegory B - use own bajet first but can claim back if won medal..

Our tax did cover the 5k they will get separately. Only as a supporter, do we feel that adequate with the momentous nature of the occasion... do WE want to collectively contribute more to economy of the industry as a personal supporter.....

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bercakap pasal hypocrites,dlm /k byk je topik mcm ni. ade user yg bangkitkan da menang baru nk post2 dlm fb,baru nk pakai jersey,dan ramai la pulak yg bash ts..aku takde la agree dgn semua dia punya post,aku pn sapot Malaysia juga,but somehow i find his statement above is so true.

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kerrigan, tabung ni untuk pembangunan bolasepak? macamana tu? boleh tolong huraikan? bukan ka tabung ni semata2 untuk mengumpul duit yang akan direwardkan kepada pemain2 negara yang menang AFF Cup baru2 ni?
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aku taktau la in the end duit tu nnt pegi mane.. dgn adenye tabung ni akan increase awareness fan2 tempatan..imo, nak membangunkan bolasepak bukan hanya kene ada facilities, kumpul fan pn salah satu cara.
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aku taktau la in the end duit tu nnt pegi mane.. dgn adenye tabung ni akan increase awareness fan2 tempatan..imo, nak membangunkan bolasepak bukan hanya kene ada facilities, kumpul fan pn salah satu cara.
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fair enough, secara tak langsung memang tabung ni akan meningkatkan awareness terhadap team bolasepak kebangsaan kepada rakyat2.

tapi aku tak akan derma duit aku ke tabung ini sebab aku rasa ada lebih banyak pihak yang lebih memerlukan derma aku, dan pasukan kebangsaan telah diberi reward yang cukup banyak dah oleh pihak2 lain. we don't want another case of Hafiz Hashim now do we?

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RG wont hesitate to dump a player that is not keen to play for our national team. i believe his players dont wanna fck with him
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RG wont hesitate to dump a player that is not keen to play for our national team. i believe his players dont wanna fck with him
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again, fair enough if you think so. but i do think that the reward should be kept to a reasonable enough level for the players to stay as what it intended to be; a reward not something to make them lupa diri. and the rumoured rm25k per player is more than enough reward already IMO without any further contribution from the fans

but then again i'm not campaigning for people not to donate or anything. just saying i won't be doing it and stating my reason for it
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again, fair enough if you think so. but i do think that the reward should be kept to a reasonable enough level for the players to stay as what it intended to be; a reward not something to make them lupa diri. and the rumoured rm25k per player is more than enough reward already IMO without any further contribution from the fans

but then again i'm not campaigning for people not to donate or anything. just saying i won't be doing it and stating my reason for it
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gov give 5k and the rest 4k will come from this tabung akujanji. so, each player will receive 9k in total
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gov give 5k and the rest 4k will come from this tabung akujanji. so, each player will receive 9k in total
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don't you think even with the 5k bonus from the government is already enough?

what happen to the prize money anyway? we get 100k USD right? won't it be divided among the whole team i.e. players, manager, coaches, physios etc?
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whats wrong with me donating? do i need a proof of donating to shut you up? its my decision and if you are not fond of giving some to them then stop whining about people who truly wants the best from our guys. its a way of showing my support to MY countrymen, if you cant do the same then shame on you.
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kau ada masalah ... ada orang derma keh ... puittttttttt

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Apa ke masalah kcpanadol ni. It's a choice la. Xnak derma sudahla....apahal lak nak cari pasal kat sini. Benda tu bukannya paksaan pun.
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^kalo nak tolak pun, tolak dgn cara yg baik mcm toshio
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^kalo nak tolak pun, tolak dgn cara yg baik mcm toshio
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no point pun kita argue camna pun. our voice tak sampai ke mana. pasal ni nak bergesel camna nak move forward. nak derma go ahead. kalau xnak nak comment pun silakan. jgn la sampai x bole nak terima pandangan org.
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no point pun kita argue camna pun. our voice tak sampai ke mana. pasal ni nak bergesel camna nak move forward. nak derma go ahead. kalau xnak nak comment pun silakan. jgn la sampai x bole nak terima pandangan org.
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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Jan 5 2011, 11:13 AM)
don't you think even with the 5k bonus from the government is already enough?

what happen to the prize money anyway? we get 100k USD right? won't it be divided among the whole team i.e. players, manager, coaches, physios etc?
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dude, why not enough? this is south east asia cup, not asia cup ...

yes, same to dato lcw that won those badminton super series, he not getting all the prize money as BAM need use the prize money to pay his coach, accomodation, sparring partner ect ...
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aku boleh terima tapi cara dorang komen tu macam kurang ajar
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Tak yah la kita gaduh pasal bende2 camni. Ni baru bende kecik kita dah gaduh. Susah kita nak bersatu kalau berterusan macam ni. Mengenai pasal 'tabung' ni, bagi aku ni macam salah satu cara nak beritahu players malaysia yang rakyat malaysia masih menyokong players. kira macam extra motivation walaupun aku rasa players da sedia maklum dengan sokongan yang diberikan masa dalam stadium.

Tak perlu la kita nak ukur atau persoalkan pasal sejauh mana masing2 menyokong pasukan malaysia. setiap orang ada cara yang tersendiri. tak pergi stadium bukan bermakna tak menyokong. aku pun tak pergi stadium gak sebab masa lawan tu aku kat Sarawak pasal kerja tapi aku keep track dengan score melalui handphone jer.

pasal derma tu plak, hak masing2. nak derma, silakan. tak nak derma, tidak apa. tak jatuh hukum haram pun kalau tak derma.

pasal lain2 isu tu, macam players da dapat 5k, kerajaan yang patut bagi sumbangan, semua orang ada pandangan masing2 suma bila ada orang keluarkan pandangan tak perlu la yang nak menjawab tu jawab dengan marah atau kata2 kesat.

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dude, why not enough? this is south east asia cup, not asia cup ...
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dude, read again. i was actually saying that the rm5k reward should be enough already
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Absolutely agree with Toshio. And if you wanna increase awareness, I believe there's many other method.
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bagi aku tak salah nak buat kutipan derma ni,walaupun sekaya mana mereka(pemain dan staff malaysia),naik caldina ke honda Civic ke (dibandingkan aku yang bawak kriss je) sekurang-kurangnya aku terhibur dan semakin bersemangat dengan pasukan bolasepak Malaysia. Mereka yang cakap banyak tu pun sama je, contohnya bila ada orang buta minta derma kat kedai mamak mula la cakap scam la,diorang kat rumah ada kereta besar la haizzz. Yang penting keikhlasan. Tu pendapat aku je Insya Allah aku sedekahkan yang termampu
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Absolutely agree with Toshio. And if you wanna increase awareness, I believe there's many other method.
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Mind you share your suggestion?
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aku boleh terima tapi cara dorang komen tu macam kurang ajar
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Mind you share your suggestion?
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Awareness doesn't necessarily involved the squad that won the cup. Road tour, more friendly match, stressing the development on young kids are the method that I can think of. Do you watched the TV3 program (I can't remember the name) where young potential kids were gathered all over from Msia and trained. Soccer kids or something. It's a good program and I am not sure why the never continue that.
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Soccer Kids and MyTeam? I don't know why those programs has been stopped. Maybe because lack of funds, dedication or something. Or maybe it is not so easy to become a professional player by graduating through reality program concept.
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I don't know but I am quite impress with the way thee young kids played in the Soccer Kids program. If I am not mistaken, they beat the Japanese team (same age category). It was quite impressive.
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Soccerkids still there at TV3.. maybe this season has ended..

BTW,, my purpose of creating this thread not just to create awareness.. i want to create the idea that if you work hard for your country to bring success, we will not only back them up morally.. but also financially...

i want parents to train their child to be a footballer beacuse not only its a noble career, but also a rewarding career if you work hard enough..

it doest mean without the money they wont do it, just that it feel nice to be and felt rewarded if they do. We also had had that moment in our working live now dont we...

any other suggestion how to make proffesional fotball as an attractive and rewarding carreer? or we just left it to the G to settle it for us as usual?

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career as a football player in Malaysia is rewarding, more so least for the top players. i'm pretty sure that the monthly salary for our top players (the Aidil, the Zaquan, the Safee, the Shahrul Idlan, the Baddrol) reaching and well over the 5 digits bar. and if you are special, go abroad and the pay is even better

the problem for me is not career as football player not rewarding enough, but the awareness among the parents about sports industry (as a whole not just football) as excellent career prospect. in my opinion the pencen scheme seems to be a step in the right direction to increase the confidence level for everyone that career as a sportsman is indeed rewarding, or at the very least terjamin
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footballer in malaysia no matter how bad also will have free meal at least ...

compare those footballer in vietnam or laos ...
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footballer in malaysia no matter how bad also will have free meal at least ...

compare those footballer in vietnam or laos ...
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North Korea ones hmm.gif
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footballer in malaysia no matter how bad also will have free meal at least ...

compare those footballer in vietnam or laos ...
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hahaha, Malaysia will never progress higher in sport or economy when people always compared them with this, that etc. Just like our government comparing the price of fuel with the likes of Indonesia, Singapore, Thailand etc.
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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Jan 5 2011, 10:53 AM)
fair enough, secara tak langsung memang tabung ni akan meningkatkan awareness terhadap team bolasepak kebangsaan kepada rakyat2.

tapi aku tak akan derma duit aku ke tabung ini sebab aku rasa ada lebih banyak pihak yang lebih memerlukan derma aku, dan pasukan kebangsaan telah diberi reward yang cukup banyak dah oleh pihak2 lain. we don't want another case of Hafiz Hashim now do we?
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only Hafiz Hashim's coach can elaborate why Hafiz's performance drop after the All england... the are probaply multiple reason why it happened... i am sure its not because lack of want of trying.... its not fair to use his example alone to dismissed us from rewarding our performing sportsman..
the reward is not only for him.. but a warning to all aspiring junior sportsman that they also will be rewarded as much if they work hard to achieve greatness....

money is the fuel that keeps the world running... it is bollocks to think that sports industry is different than that...

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footballer in malaysia no matter how bad also will have free meal at least ...

compare those footballer in vietnam or laos ...
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wow... on the field you compare us with Japan and Korea...

but of the field you compare us with Laos and Vietnam... rclxms.gif

Laotian and Vietnamese will give whatever they can to reward their players... so will us....

there are also footballers on our side who cannot sleep thinking how they gonna feed their family.... now what we gonna do about it?

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Sham on you ... keep the money for future rather give to them ...
kau ada masalah ... ada orang derma keh ... puittttttttt

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Suka aku lah ... tak suka blah
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ganjaran should come from FA right ... why us ... ? it is not like they are doing fund raising for charity
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ganjaran should come from FA right ... why us ... ? it is not like they are doing fund raising for charity
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they win it for US. Not the FA. Its the Malaysia batch that they kissed so passionately. the dont love the FA thaatt much. beleive me.

THIS IS NOT A CHARITY. Its a show of gratitute and appreciation. What better way to actually show it? changing your profile pic in FB?
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Those profile and tag, emblem mean nothing if we didn't actually do something for our local/national football scene.
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Jan 5 2011, 11:17 PM)
they win it for US. Not the FA. Its the Malaysia batch that they kissed so passionately. the dont love the FA thaatt much. beleive me.

THIS IS NOT A CHARITY. Its a show of gratitute and appreciation. What better way to actually show it? changing your profile pic in FB?
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yea maybe but you must not forget that they are doing it for themselves as well. imho, the proper way to show gratitude is actually turning up to watch the league games and national games. dont just show up during semis or finals or important matches

QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Jan 5 2011, 11:18 PM)
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as a tax payer ... i believe i already did my part in helping them ... serzly ...

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dont think of yourself as a taxpayer for once. instead try being a human being. they gave you something and its nice of you to just give something back. its not like when your child (if you have 1) passes his/her examinations and you dont give them anything to celebrate that achievement cause you have already payed for tax and that translate to you giving them an education. smile.gif

rm5 also not that much what, but if everyone gives rm5 it will pill up as well. lets all change and instead of thinking what others can do for us, why not if all of us think what we can do for others. then there wont be anyone who is sidelined and the world would be a much better place

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yea maybe but you must not forget that they are doing it for themselves as well. imho, the proper way to show gratitude is actually turning up to watch the league games and national games. dont just show up during semis or finals or important matches
as a tax payer ... i believe i already did my part in helping them ... serzly ...
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And we should not celebrate and feel gratitude for their achievement just because they also doing it for themselves?

Turning up for league games and national games is a good spirit... but thats for other occasion.. we are celebrating the momentous inaugural malaysian south east asia champions here.... out of population of 593 million people covering 5,000,000 km2, these are the best 22 people at football in this region.. its an achievement thats worth a reward on its own...

just consider it a RM 10 you would pay for normal league match tickets, without the hasssle of tol, parking and gasoline cost...


FAM is an Non-Govermental-Organization. Your tax money is not the bulk of their budget.

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QUOTE(modben @ Jan 5 2011, 11:37 PM)
dont think of yourself as a taxpayer for once. instead try being a human being. they gave you something and its nice of you to just give something back. its not like when your child (if you have 1) passes his/her examinations and you dont give them anything to celebrate that achievement cause you have already payed for tax and that translate to you giving them an education. smile.gif

rm5 also not that much what, but if everyone gives rm5 it will pill up as well. lets all change and instead of thinking what others can do for us, why not if all of us think what we can do for others. then there wont be anyone who is sidelined and the world would be a much better place
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honestly speaking, i was rarely rewarded for scoring good grades simply because im doing it for my own sake =P

if we want to donate, we should donate to something that will help MY football as a whole because it will be more beneficial in the long run.

also it is not a matter of RM5 or not. i frequently donate to charities and beggars if i ever come across any.
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QUOTE(modben @ Jan 5 2011, 11:37 PM)
dont think of yourself as a taxpayer for once. instead try being a human being. they gave you something and its nice of you to just give something back. its not like when your child (if you have 1) passes his/her examinations and you dont give them anything to celebrate that achievement cause you have already payed for tax and that translate to you giving them an education. smile.gif

rm5 also not that much what, but if everyone gives rm5 it will pill up as well. lets all change and instead of thinking what others can do for us, why not if all of us think what we can do for others. then there wont be anyone who is sidelined and the world would be a much better place
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yeah. i dont get it also.

To celebrates this occasion, they rather donate RM 199 to Nike in exchange of a shirt made of recycled bottles instead of raising RM 10 to the players who actually won it.. rclxub.gif

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honestly speaking, i was rarely rewarded for scoring good grades simply because im doing it for my own sake =P

if we want to donate, we should donate to something that will help MY football as a whole because it will be more beneficial in the long run.

also it is not a matter of RM5 or not. i frequently donate to charities and beggars if i ever come across any.
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Showing private initiatives likes this also beneficial in the long run as the financial and moral support transpires by it will give encouragement fot current and future players that their effort is appreciated...

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Jan 5 2011, 11:54 PM)
And we should not celebrate and feel gratitude for their achievement just because they also doing it for themselves?

Turning up for league games and national games is a good spirit... but thats for other occasion.. we are celebrating the momentous inugural malaysian south east asia champions here....  out of population of 593 million people covering 5,000,000 km2, these are the best 22 people at football.. its an achievement thats worth a reward on its own...

FAM is an Non-Govermental-Organization. Your tax money is not the bulk of their budget.
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i didnt say that we should not be thankful. i was merely reminding you that it is of their own personal gain to perform well as well. it is not like they are doing a MotherTeresa kind of thing =P

QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Jan 5 2011, 11:56 PM)
yeah. i dont get it also.

To celebrates this occasion, they rather donate RM 199 to Nike in exchange of a shirt made of recycled bottles instead of raising RM 10 to the players who actually won it.. rclxub.gif
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urm ... more jerseys sold = more $ for FAM ... if FAM no $ ... you think they can develop as a player w/o those facilities or trainings? i dont see anything wrong with it at all.
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Problem is people willing to spend their $$$ when it come about foreign league (EPL. La Liga, Serie A, J-League etc.), but when it is about Malaysia football suddenly it become controversial.
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QUOTE(jiidaineko @ Jan 6 2011, 12:05 AM)
i didnt say that we should not be thankful. i was merely reminding you that it is of their own personal gain to perform well as well. it is not like they are doing a MotherTeresa kind of thing =P
urm ... more jerseys sold = more $ for FAM ... if FAM no $ ... you think they can develop as a player w/o those facilities or trainings? i dont see anything wrong with it at all.
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The Aku Janji should be a part of the 'personal gain'. IMO, all the poeple of malaysia who shouted at the GBK's final whistle owe it to them...


I dont say buying jersey is wrong. Its comparison between the jersey price and the amount you should contribute that is wrong.. RM 199 = Nike Jersey..OK!!! .. RM 10 = reward player...NOOOO!!..

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QUOTE(jiidaineko @ Jan 5 2011, 11:55 PM)
honestly speaking, i was rarely rewarded for scoring good grades simply because im doing it for my own sake =P

if we want to donate, we should donate to something that will help MY football as a whole because it will be more beneficial in the long run.

also it is not a matter of RM5 or not. i frequently donate to charities and beggars if i ever come across any.
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herhh, ok maybe not the best of examples but you get my drift, i hope. and its really cool if you do your part for charity, totally respect that.
but what better way to show how much we appreciate what they did on the field then to reward them? in the long run more players will work harder to get into the team which results in an influx of many talented players for our coaches to pick from. and from that even if safee doesnt perform, others might take his place.

QUOTE(jiidaineko @ Jan 6 2011, 12:05 AM)
i didnt say that we should not be thankful. i was merely reminding you that it is of their own personal gain to perform well as well. it is not like they are doing a MotherTeresa kind of thing =P
urm ... more jerseys sold = more $ for FAM ... if FAM no $ ... you think they can develop as a player w/o those facilities or trainings? i dont see anything wrong with it at all.
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i dont think FAM benefits much from the sales of jerseys. more jerseys sold = more $ for nike, not FAM as far as i can tell. its suppose to be a form of sponsorship, gains from sales of jerseys goes to nike. FAM only receive what is agreed between both parties. i might be wrong here, but i doubt it
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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Jan 6 2011, 12:10 AM)
Problem is people willing to spend their $$$ when it come about foreign league (EPL. La Liga, Serie A, J-League etc.), but when it is about Malaysia football suddenly it become controversial.
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Jan 6 2011, 12:12 AM)
The Aku Janji should be a part of the 'personal gain'. IMO, all the poeple of malaysia who shouted at the GBK's final whistle owe it to them...
I dont say buying jersey is wrong. Its comparison between the jersey price and the amount you should contribute that is wrong..  RM 199 = Nike Jersey..OK!!! .. RM 10 = reward player...NOOOO!!..
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QUOTE(modben @ Jan 6 2011, 12:14 AM)
herhh, ok maybe not the best of examples but you get my drift, i hope. and its really cool if you do your part for charity, totally respect that.
but what better way to show how much we appreciate what they did on the field then to reward them? in the long run more players will work harder to get into the team which results in an influx of many talented players for our coaches to pick from. and from that even if safee doesnt perform, others might take his place.
i dont think FAM benefits much from the sales of jerseys. more jerseys sold = more $ for nike, not FAM as far as i can tell. its suppose to be a form of sponsorship, gains from sales of jerseys goes to nike. FAM only receive what is agreed between both parties. i might be wrong here, but i doubt it
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showing gratitude is alright, no question about that. my point is, this tabung thing should not even exist in the 1st place. the govt/FA should have something in place already just like the RM1million per gold medal (which i think is an overkill lol) . it shouldnt be up to us citizens to create all these tabungs.

also, can anybody confirm that all they got was the prize money? im kinda skeptical that the govt didnt even give 1 cent whistling.gif

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showing gratitude is alright, no question about that. my point is, this tabung thing should not even exist in the 1st place. the govt/FA should have something in place already just like the RM1million per gold medal (which i think is an overkill lol) . it shouldnt be up to us citizens to create all these tabungs.

also, can anybody confirm that all they got was the prize money? im kinda skeptical that the govt didnt even give 1 cent  whistling.gif
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IMO, one of the triggering points of local football revolution is the start of 'not depending everything on the administrator/organizer/goverment and them blame them ' mentality..

TSAM's KAFA started the ball rolling with his aggresive re-branding and pro-active marketing strategy... the red warrior's fan then follows through with fan initiated organized supporting culture... some young boys are tired with waiting until the team qualified to the second round of the world cup to support the team, so they formed 'Ultras Malaya' to give visible and audible support to the national team for every match inconsiderate to the result on the pitch... win, lose, or draw, the players knew that they can count on the Ultra's support...

this Aku Janji fund is Sportwriter's public initiative to show public support to the team. i thinks it is very beautiful as support from the public will be more meaningful to the players then support from the goverment...

we should not only support this fund to support the players... we should also support this fund to encourage more private initative to come out and be pro-active in supporting our local team.. this wait and see then point the fingers to the governemnt attitude must end now..

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quite tall that North Korean captain. a long ball into their box might not be a good idea. biggrin.gif
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Soccerkids still there at TV3.. maybe this season has ended..

BTW,, my purpose of creating this thread not just to create awareness.. i want to create the idea that if you work hard for your country to bring success, we will not only back them up morally.. but also financially...

i want parents to train their child to be a footballer beacuse not only its a noble career, but also a rewarding career if you work hard enough..

it doest mean without the money they wont do it, just that it feel nice to be and felt rewarded if they do. We also had had that moment in our working live now dont we...

any other suggestion how to make proffesional fotball as an attractive and rewarding carreer? or we just left it to the G to settle it for us as usual?
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I agree with your points except the bold one. This is not the public role. This role belongs to the G and FAM.
It's like when you score straight As in STPM, you expect your parent to reward you. This is perfectly normal. But surely you don't expect the whole neighborhood to reward you as well, do you?

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I agree with your points except the bold one. This is not the public role. This role belongs to the G and FAM.
It's like when you score straight As in STPM, you expect your parent to reward you. This is perfectly normal. But surely you don't expect the whole neighborhood to reward you as well, do you?
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to the contrary, the public are the actual customer and paymaster of the football industry... not the government... government and FAM's money should be used to develope and organize instead...

who should reward the victors mainly depend on who the victory represents.... have you heard the old days when one of of the kampung boys get admitted to the University in the city, the whole kampung will gotong-royong to hold a 'kenduri kesyukuran'.. they even collect money for his transportation and start-up..to them, the boy represent the whole kampung and its future... thats the goodwill and sacrificing spirit thats getting eroded from today's society...

for me... the 'Malaysia' in Malaysian national team does not represent "Malaysia- the government'. It represent 'Malaysia- the people'...they actually representing you... not some other people's child in your neighborhood.....they are your prodigol son doing their best to pass the exam to get your approval..... dont you think they deserve a break?



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then malaysian should 'donate' to those that won the gold medal in the recent asia game ...
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then malaysian should 'donate' to those that won the gold medal in the recent asia game ...
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has you donated? Care to explain why you object so much?
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to the contrary, the public are the actual customer and paymaster of the football industry... not the government... government and FAM's money should be used to develope and organize instead...

who should reward the victors mainly depend on who the victory represents.... have you heard the old days when one of of the kampung boys get admitted to the University in the city, the whole kampung will gotong-royong to hold a 'kenduri kesyukuran'.. they even collect money  for his transportation and start-up..to them, the boy represent the whole kampung and its future... thats the goodwill and sacrificing spirit thats getting eroded from today's society...

for me... the 'Malaysia' in Malaysian national team does not represent "Malaysia- the government'. It represent 'Malaysia- the people'...they actually representing you... not some other people's child in your neighborhood.....they are your prodigol son doing their best to pass the exam to get your approval..... dont you think they deserve a break?
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Paymaster in terms of commercial, yes. Deserve a break? Yes. But not like this kind of donation! This is not the right way. Donate money just because they won something? This is not the culture I want to see.

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then malaysian should 'donate' to those that won the gold medal in the recent asia game ...
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Exactly.

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then malaysian should 'donate' to those that won the gold medal in the recent asia game ...
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'donate' is not the right word.. 'reward' is the better word... and yes.. it would be sweet as well for all the athletes that won the gold medal in the recent asia games to receive 'reward' from the people...

i already promoted the Suzuki Cup fundraising because the Suzuki Cup win touch me more.. why dont you promote the Asia Games fund-raising for the sport of your choice....

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Jan 6 2011, 02:32 PM)
'donate' is not the right word.. 'reward' is the better word... and yes.. it would be sweet as well for all the athletes that won the gold medal in the recent asia games to receive 'reward' from the people...

i already promoted the Suzuki Cup fundraising because the Suzuki Cup win touch me more.. why dont you promote the Asia Games fund-raising for the sport of your choice....
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they think it is not their business. They just use it as excuse to counter argument.
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then malaysian should 'donate' to those that won the gold medal in the recent asia game ...
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wats ur problem bro? can u tell me why u hate malaysian football so much?
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wats ur problem bro? can u tell me why u hate malaysian football so much?
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which words show i hate malaysian football ??? shocking.gif

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Paymaster in terms of commercial, yes. Deserve a break? Yes. But not like this kind of donation! This is not the right way. Donate money just because they won something? This is not the culture I want to see.

Added on January 6, 2011, 2:20 pm
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what so negative about donate money when they won something? if its helps them, why not?

florence people use to left bread and bottle of milk outside Gabriel Batistuta home every morning as a sign of gratitude...

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which words show i hate malaysian football ??? shocking.gif
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true rite?
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menang komplen

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playing football u think they can play 1000000 years?

n weekly gaji 1000000000000000pound?

dapat rumah, dpt donation is their reward because their gaji is so little.

u expect they will win world cup with rm5000 gaji?

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QUOTE(little_mozart @ Jan 6 2011, 05:52 PM)
tipical malaysian

menang komplen

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playing football u think they can play 1000000 years?

n weekly gaji 1000000000000000pound?

dapat rumah, dpt donation is their reward because their gaji is so little.

u expect they will win world cup with rm5000 gaji?

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have you reward them ???
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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 6 2011, 04:12 PM)
wats ur problem bro? can u tell me why u hate malaysian football so much?
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QUOTE(BoltonMan @ Jan 6 2011, 05:42 PM)
which words show i hate malaysian football ??? shocking.gif
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didnt donate @ didnt agree with donation mean hate malaysian football so much doh.gif
thousands Malaysian who sing and cry when we win but they hate malaysian football so much since they not all of them donate even they know about this tabung shocking.gif
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didnt donate @ didnt agree with donation mean hate malaysian football so much doh.gif
thousands Malaysian who sing and cry when we win but they hate malaysian football so much since they not all of them donate even they know about this tabung shocking.gif
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aku bukan cakap ko la! jgn perasan!

aku bukan judge dia dari thread ni je. kalo ko perasan post dia kat thread malaysian football pun asyik mengutuk je. kalo ko perasan la........

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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 6 2011, 08:08 PM)
aku bukan cakap ko la! jgn perasan!

aku bukan judge dia dari thread ni je. kalo ko perasan post dia kat thread malaysian football pun asyik mengutuk je. kalo ko perasan la........
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aku perasan gak. Die cam memperlekehkan pencapaian skuad Malaysia ni. Tau puji MU je.
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ask umno and krony. they generate more money

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ape bende lu cakap ni?
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they think it is not their business. They just use it as excuse to counter argument.
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they can make do with that when supporting foreign teams because them foreign teams are, literally, not their business. Local football industry cannot survive without local people making it their business to 'reachingly' support the local teams. We don't have millions of foreign cash cows to support us financially now do we...

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Donate RM10 also can. No need RM30.
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