QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Jan 4 2011, 09:15 PM)
england haters gonna hating....
It doesn't take an England hater to spot the fallacy in this points system. Anyone gifted with the ability to rationalise will agree that England are in no way, the 6th best team in the world at the moment. For the sake of argument, I'm not an England hater. I don't support any International team and am impartial. I just think that for a team who has achieved next to nothing in the last few decades, a 6th place ranking is highly flattering. It may be true that they had a good qualifying campaign during the last World Cup but they weren't exactly in a tough group.
Added on January 5, 2011, 10:43 amQUOTE(aressandro10 @ Jan 4 2011, 09:33 PM)
dont judge the physical ability of a nation in sports and
world ranking based on politics, wealth and population of the country. Some group of people just born into that sport...
you better off compare countries based on geograhic loaction instead... countries further away from the equator should be able to play better than countries nearer to the equator...

I don't see why not. It's 'kebarangkalian' isn't it? The bigger your population, the bigger your pool of talent especially since kids in our country have almost all kicked a football at some point in their lives. It's like the first law in sales. The more prospects you have, the higher your chance of closing.
"Born into the sport"? I agree to an extent. Kids in Brazil grow up in poverty, and therefore play barefeet in the sand. Over years of evolution, kids there are born with natural talent? I don't subscribe to this but I do believe that one can evolve physically or genetically. You can generally have more stamina, be physically bigger or stronger depending on where you are born and what your diet is. Our kids play football throughout their childhood lives and football is considered to be our no. 1 sport. Isn't is safe to say therefore that we are "born into football" ourselves?
Politics? I for one believe that it's harder to set up a proper football organisation in a country that is politically unstable. Lets take Iraq as an example:-
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/23/ga...power-struggle/Wealth? Well the more money you have, the more you can invest into infrastructure. I think it's pretty clear cut.
Do all these factors ultimately determine your place in the football world? Perhaps not but having money, having a larger talent pool and living in stability does give you a huge advantage.
Maybe you can tell me why you think I can't judge a countries success on these factors? I must admit we do have our challenges. I mean logic would dictate that we should be the economic powerhouse of SEA with all the resources we have but even a small nation like Singapore with zero resources are years ahead of us.
Oh and the dig about geographical location, that's your example, not mine. I cited demographics as a factor
This post has been edited by Duke Red: Jan 5 2011, 05:25 PM