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> I'm kinda bored..so, I want to help out those HDTV, owners calibrate their HDTV.

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Min Hyo
post Dec 29 2010, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(benblitz @ Dec 29 2010, 02:20 AM)
I'm sure its at the setting menu, maybe you have to dig deeper. If you still can't find it, tough luck. Your TV doesn't have this setting.
But, it's fine. Proceed normally  smile.gif
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what i mean is there's no "on" or "off", it's like volumn, u can adjust from 0 to 100. so you are saying i adjust to 0?
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post Dec 29 2010, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(penmarker @ Dec 29 2010, 01:43 AM)
but i dont like watching movie in hdtv, n from blurays, or hdvd.
look so smooth like watching documentary. i like it better if its around 25fps.
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+9000. when it's like 100Hz and above, it's like watching cantonese drama or some documentary, or some videocam recordings. tak siyok, doesnt feel like watching movie even though it's clearer. dunno why.
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post Dec 29 2010, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(Min Hyo @ Dec 29 2010, 02:25 AM)
what i mean is there's no "on" or "off", it's like volumn, u can adjust from 0 to 100. so you are saying i adjust to 0?
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I see, mine is like that too. Try setting it at 80. If it is too dark you can always crank it back up.

QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Dec 29 2010, 02:25 AM)
+9000. when it's like 100Hz and above, it's like watching cantonese drama or some documentary, or some videocam recordings. tak siyok, doesnt feel like watching movie even though it's clearer. dunno why.
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Hahaha. Exactly, looks weird. It doesn't look real at all. But oh well, might as well make your HDTV future proof right?
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post Dec 29 2010, 02:29 AM

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so which settings can get rid of the mosaics?
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post Dec 29 2010, 02:31 AM

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so the backlight settings is basicly jz to make it viewable, if there's no on or off option
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post Dec 29 2010, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(sanders @ Dec 29 2010, 02:29 AM)
so which settings can get rid of the mosaics?
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I seriously think that doesn't have anything to do with calibration. Its your signal.

QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Dec 29 2010, 02:31 AM)
so the backlight settings is basicly jz to make it viewable, if there's no on or off option
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Yes, but you don't want it to be too high too. BTW, it does interact with your brightness and contrast setting in overall.

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QUOTE(benblitz @ Dec 29 2010, 02:36 AM)
I seriously think that doesn't have anything to do with calibration. Its your signal.
Yes, but you don't want it to be too high too. BTW, it does interact with your brightness and contrast setting in overall.
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so how exactly we set this.depends on ur room lighting?

mine is led backlit btw
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post Dec 29 2010, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(benblitz @ Dec 29 2010, 02:29 AM)
I see, mine is like that too. Try setting it at 80. If it is too dark you can always crank it back up.
Hahaha. Exactly, looks weird. It doesn't look real at all. But oh well, might as well make your HDTV future proof right?
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lol future proof for what? 3d(u need more resource and ir transmitter )?
there is a reason why film are converted into 24fps, film shouldnt been too real
wat setting backlight at 80%, u must be crazy, coz the laptop that i use i only set at 20% and its already bright enough, thats the reason i dont like lcd, too bright
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Dec 29 2010, 02:37 AM)
so how exactly we set this.depends on ur room lighting?

mine is led backlit btw
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Yes, depends on your room lighting. Different calibration are required during day and night. According to your room lighting.
If your tv supports multiple custom setting then it's fine. Calibrate for both day and night.

Well, I spent quite some days finding ways to calibrate my set. But I never did come across any issue if it is LED or LCD. As long as it is HDTV, LED/LCD doesn't make any differences when calibrating.
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post Dec 29 2010, 02:44 AM

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QUOTE(benblitz @ Dec 29 2010, 02:40 AM)
Yes, depends on your room lighting. Different calibration are required during day and night. According to your room lighting.
If your tv supports multiple custom setting then it's fine. Calibrate for both day and night.

Well, I spent quite some days finding ways to calibrate my set. But I never did come across any issue if it is LED or LCD. As long as it is HDTV, LED/LCD doesn't make any differences when calibrating.
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well i does, rgb led does have more accurate colour for lcd, led bring balance light output compared to ccfl, which usually cause unbalance light to lcd area (but usually not noticeble) There is a reason why calibration exist, because user preference are not the same, some people like more reddish colour, some like more bluerer, someone want more greenish. Each calibration setting wont satisfy other, those calibrator that was use was to bring accurate colour for printing images, usually for professional use

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post Dec 29 2010, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 29 2010, 02:39 AM)
lol future proof for what? 3d(u need more resource and ir transmitter )?
there is a reason why film are converted into 24fps, film shouldnt been too real
wat setting backlight at 80%, u must be crazy, coz the laptop that i use i only set at 20% and its already bright enough, thats the reason i dont like lcd, too bright
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Well, that does makes sense. Currently ISF still researching on how much Hz can a human eye actually process. Hence the variance in refresh rate. But, higher refresh rate does results in smoother frame rate/interlacing. And yes, film are recorded at the native rate of 24p because it shouldn't be too real. Then, may I ask why HDTV with 100Hz++ are even invented? It is because some part of consumer wanted it that way. And manufacturer delivers them. Since low refresh rate tends to produce laggy images at times. You don't want that when watching sports do you?

I'm not sure about your laptop though. So, no comment.
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100hz+ for me is only suitable for sports,documentary or any real life events video

for movies i prefer to stick to 60 hz
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 29 2010, 02:44 AM)
well i does, rgb led does have more accurate colour for lcd, led bring balance light output compared to ccfl, which usually cause unbalance light to lcd area (but usually not noticeble) There is a reason why calibration exist, because user preference are not the same, some people like more reddish colour, some like more bluerer, someone want more greenish. Each calibration setting wont satisfy other, those calibrator that was use was to bring accurate colour for printing images, usually for professional use
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Ahh I see, thanks for the info. smile.gif And yes, in the end it is up to the user themselves on how they wanted to view their display.
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post Dec 29 2010, 02:55 AM

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QUOTE(benblitz @ Dec 29 2010, 02:49 AM)
Well, that does makes sense. Currently ISF still researching on how much Hz can a human eye actually process. Hence the variance in refresh rate. But, higher refresh rate does results in smoother frame rate/interlacing. And yes, film are recorded at the native rate of 24p because it shouldn't be too real. Then, may I ask why HDTV with 100Hz++ are even invented? It is because some part of consumer wanted it that way. And manufacturer delivers them. Since low refresh rate tends to produce laggy images at times. You don't want that when watching sports do you?

I'm not sure about your laptop though. So, no comment.
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100hz are for real sources like sports and documentary.multiplying the frame into x number of frame. not everyone would need it, in fact u can still can have butter smooth video if u can fully utilize 60fps, like playing game. Most panel manufacturer only cares of contrass ratio, colour gamut , response time, and viewing distance, which plasma currently overwhelmed lcd in this area. Those high fps are usually come from chip which can feed the panel for more higher frame rate.The reason why oled tech was focused was to overcome all the lcd problem. remember lcd was initially use for laptop and low power display

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post Dec 29 2010, 03:03 AM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 29 2010, 02:55 AM)
100hz are for real sources like sports and documentary.multiplying the frame into x number of frame. not everyone would need it, in fact u can still can have butter smooth video if u can fully utilize 60fps, like playing game. Most hdtv manufacturer only cares of contrass ratio, colour gamut , response time, and viewing distance, which plasma currently overwhelmed lcd in this area. The reason why oled tech was focused was to overcome all the lcd problem. remember lcd was initially use for laptop and low power display
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I see..how do I utilize these 60fps for gaming, on ps3 precisely? I did came across that color gamut thingy, but I couldn't fathom any of it. But I do know that most hdtv manufacturer's are like what you said.

You're really informative. Thanks for sharing.
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post Dec 29 2010, 03:04 AM

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Should move to Tutorial section (is there any? I don't remember which forum I frequent has one. wBB, LYN atau MW2 i pon tak ingat)
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i only want 100Hz for games, that would be awesome. drool.gif
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post Dec 29 2010, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(phantomkid @ Dec 29 2010, 03:04 AM)
Should move to Tutorial section (is there any? I don't remember which forum I frequent has one. wBB, LYN atau MW2 i pon tak ingat)
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I'm not sure about that. Is there tutorial section for this?

QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Dec 29 2010, 03:05 AM)
i only want 100Hz for games, that would be awesome. drool.gif
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I think its better to stick to 60Hz for gaming. You would want it for movies though. Since from what I read, 100Hz for gaming produces artifact in some cases. But it would be nice if the games run smoothly.
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post Dec 29 2010, 03:09 AM

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iirc there's a section for Tutorials and stuffs.


Added on December 29, 2010, 3:09 amahh here. http://forum.lowyat.net/EssentialReviewsandGuides

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QUOTE(benblitz @ Dec 29 2010, 03:07 AM)
I'm not sure about that. Is there tutorial section for this?
I think its better to stick to 60Hz for gaming. You would want it for movies though. Since from what I read, 100Hz for gaming produces artifact in some cases. But it would be nice if the games run smoothly.
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yeah, maybe.. but gaming at 60Hz, especially First-person shooters, sucks. cos u need to move constantly, and there are lots of quick movements involved, and most of the time everything is a blur. sad.gif

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