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post Dec 29 2010, 02:02 PM

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I predict a 2-0 win for Malaysia. Our boys have one of the most solid defense in the tournament after the 5-1 trashing in the first game, and conceded just once on the way to the final.

Indonesia have no choice but to come at us at all angles, leaving a lot of gaps at the back. For Rajagopal and boys - WIN!
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post Dec 31 2010, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Dec 31 2010, 06:21 PM)
Over the course of the past few weeks, I've been really annoyed with the Indonesian media and their online population with their nonsense, non-factual and sometimes utterly retarded statements.

As annoying as it is for me and you, we cannot deny one thing though... Indonesians are damn proud of their country and will stand by their flag and countrymen no matter what. Whether if its fair or unfair, their passion and sentiment for their country will not be moved.

Our Malaysians on the other hand can even question the motives of our PM declaring public holiday and some even belittle our boys' achievement winning the AFF Cup.

The one thing that the Indos have that we don't as an overall population is a national identity. Indonesians also have various clans and puaks and they also have Indo-Chinese and Indians. But they really couldn't care less about their so-called "bahasa ibunda" or having Chinese or Tamil schools. They speak the same language and listen to the same music and above all, support their country in any sport.

As much as I hate to say this, some of us Malaysians need to learn loyalty to the country from the Indonesians........ Tapi jgn ter-over macam diorang ler  shakehead.gif

p/s: Mintak maaf pasal social commentary ni... Peace and happy new year to all Malaysians!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Valid comparison, but both countries are also kinda different, in some ways.

Similar to Thailand, Indonesia practices "assimilation" since its early days - where all its people, regardless of puaks or races are moulded into one national identity. Hence, even the Chinese there bear Indonesian (or Thai) names, speak the language and practice the local cultures.

Maybe - and this is just a guess, it's easier for Indonesians to be united because they already come from a common platform.

On the other hand, Malaysia and Singapore adopted "integration" during Merdeka. The Chinese maintain their own traditions, Indians their own, and so on. For better or for worse, and due to many circumstances over the years, the racial divide is clear for all to see. It's also really annoying to hear of Malaysians complaining and belittling the team for its AFF achievement, but I think these are the same middle-class-armchair-critic folks who will also complain that the steering wheels are too hard when a car is given to them for free!

But - having said that, I do think that Malaysians can easily see past skin color and get behind one of our own, regardless of whether it's Lee Chong Wei, Nicol David or Sudirman representing us on stage.

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post Dec 31 2010, 08:46 PM

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Rocko dude! Are you back in KL for good? We need a solid DM for MyRAWK FC! I'll PM you for the next game :-)
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post Jan 5 2011, 12:39 AM

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The best KL side I'd ever seen, the Azman Adnan days. One of their Msia Cup semifinal with Kedah, 6-4 result with a goal scored almost every few minutes! That was the year Kedah whacked everything!

After that Azman transferred to Selangor for... Austin Powers style... one.. million.. dollars..!
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post Jan 5 2011, 10:31 PM

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Matlan made his name after scoring twice against England, in a friendly which we lost 4-2. If we play England today we'd probably be whacked 5-0.
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post Jan 5 2011, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Jan 5 2011, 11:07 PM)
Dude... Considering that Man Utd > England, and we put up a good fight against them, I think we'd do well against those overpaid/overated English prima donnas...
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Yup you guys are right. Think I spoke/typed too fast - was too caught up in the good old glory days!

I'm not knocking our current national team; I think they did extremely well in the AFF. Just like to see them get tested against the bigger teams first before going overboard with how we can now be a good a match for every other country.

And yes - I'm still quite sore at how MU played our boys around in that 6-0 game. Can't be happier to see a much closer game recently.

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post Jan 6 2011, 12:27 AM

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I hope they groom and hire better commentators as well. If I can collect a buck everytime I hear "ITU DIA........"
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post Jan 6 2011, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(jaaroquai @ Jan 6 2011, 01:53 PM)
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Whoaaaaa you keep it until today! Classic lah, back when our currency was still in dollar$!
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post Jan 11 2011, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jan 10 2011, 10:52 PM)
india qualified because they win 3rd class afc tournament
read here AFC Challenge Cup
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Looking at the classifications reminded me of how I've always believed that we do have a -chance- at making it to the World Cup, someday. Not next year, or the next 5 years, but someday.

Reason being, Asia is arguably one of the weaker regions in world football, and you don't really have to beat Brazil or Italy to qualify. Once you get yourself one level up from where we currently are, and start competing against the likes of Saudi, China, Iraq - which we USED to be able to - we'd have a decent shot at qualification.

The AFC classifications is interesting - if it was a league we'd be right among top the top 5, based on our recent performances. I think the next challenge for Malaysia, really, is to make it to the "developed associations" classification. Thailand is already there, and on a good day, we're good enough to beat them.

World Cup for Malaysia, I don't see why not!
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post Jan 19 2011, 03:12 AM

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An excellent read on the football situation in Indonesia - why they have a "failed" national team, and the breakaway league. Also described how clubs are allowed 5 foreigners, which deprives local talents from developing.

On the other hand, our national team have done quite well the past 2 years, so it might be interesting to note the differences in the way things are handled in both countries.

http://inbedwithmaradona.com/an-indonesian-football-saga/

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