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Pet Help Planted Aquarium V6, a garden inside a glass cube

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tyja
post May 18 2011, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(weijie @ May 18 2011, 12:36 PM)
I think you need to check your chiller thermostat
If you set to 27, compressor will only run till 27.0
You are saying that even when you set to 27C, the chiller will run till 24.7C?
The reading is from chiller or external thermometer?
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bro, from chiller.


Added on May 18, 2011, 2:10 pm
QUOTE(ciohbu @ May 18 2011, 12:40 PM)
u remind me of something that i read b4 this... hahaha

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http://aquatic-art.blogspot.com/2008/10/ch...-5-minutes.html
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i'm using eheim 2217 at the moment. before i install chiller, the flow is fast, but when install chiller, the flow become very slow. i dont know why...


Added on May 18, 2011, 2:17 pmat 1.50pm my chiller reading is 26.1 (since I already setup back the temp control at 26)...then just 5 minutes ago...to be exact 2.10pm (it stopped), my chiller reading is 24.7...

is this correct behaviour?

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post May 18 2011, 02:48 PM

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Nopes
It should had stop at 26.0
It seems that there is some wiring prob with your chiller
Thermostats reading is correct but it is unable to stop after reaching correct temp
The temp stop at 24.7C because it is the max chilling capability of your hailea (I guess)
I currently using 2215 with hailea 150a. Temp set 27C. So far so good
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post May 18 2011, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(weijie @ May 18 2011, 02:48 PM)
Nopes
It should had stop at 26.0
It seems that there is some wiring prob with your chiller
Thermostats reading is correct but it is unable to stop after reaching correct temp
The temp stop at 24.7C because it is the max chilling capability of your hailea (I guess)
I currently using 2215 with hailea 150a. Temp set 27C. So far so good
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bro,
what is your tank size?
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post May 18 2011, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ May 11 2011, 04:39 PM)
you cannot tahan the salt , caused its expensive or what?
well if you play marine tank before, i think fresh water tank should be cheap for you =)
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Not because it's expensive. Because it's damn sticky.
Salt all over the tank and lamp and basically everywhere. In a long run I think it will destroy my LCD and other electronic gadgets. Haha..


QUOTE(michanz @ May 11 2011, 05:02 PM)
the salts ill evaporate and ull find the floors sticky ? haha

if u already have tank filter and lights i guess itll be cheaper.. just need to invest in co2 tank soil plants and hardscape.

witout co2 sure no prob. just that plant choices will be limited.

tank - rm50+- for a god 2feet.
filter - EJET canisters would cost rm150
co2 - full set would set u back rm300+- if ur lucky can get cheaper
soil - would need a bag 9L ADA soil rm88
Lights - diy? below rm100
plants - rm50 up to you
wood/rock - rm50 - 100 up to u

do the math lah.

using ur emily's account to troll ah hahahahahahahah
u will turn salty leh
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Well I spend whole day last week to DIY a cover with minimum air leakage with vent pulling the air out side. Somehow it worked.
The salt is a major issue. New 2.5 feet tank on the way. Going to collect it this evening. I'm still deciding of having a planted tank thou. But, "EMILY : Planted tank is so boring". Now aku pening kepala dah. Haha.. She forgot to log out when she use my browser. Haha.. Marine tank is so hard to maintain somehow. My LED light above the tank started to oxidized. =x

2.5ft tank need how many kg of sand? also how much is the co2 refill say a small 5 liter tank? Rm300+- inclusive of all other co2 equipment like the bubble counter and stuff? Eh, when you free jom la teman me to the shop and buy. I'm not good in planted tank. =x
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post May 18 2011, 03:59 PM

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20inch cube smile.gif
Small tank only
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post May 18 2011, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(weijie @ May 18 2011, 03:59 PM)
20inch cube smile.gif
Small tank only
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ermm..mine 3 feet, its took about 1 and half hour to cold down to 26.
and the flow water is so slow..thinking to have another canister to cover the flow...
what do you guys think?
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post May 18 2011, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ May 15 2011, 03:43 PM)
anyone here have aquarium in his bedroom? especially students that work place and sleeping place is the same location?
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Me. I used to have 2 X 6ft tank and 2 X 2ft tank in my room. I keep Arowana, Discus ( Dont know how to spell the real name), Piranha's and Oscar.
The only problem I have is when I want to change the water. Have to really careful or your room will smell like fish market for weeks.
And my room is carpeted. =x
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post May 18 2011, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(tyja @ May 18 2011, 04:05 PM)
ermm..mine 3 feet, its took about 1 and half hour to cold down to 26.
and the flow water is so slow..thinking to have another canister to cover the flow...
what do you guys think?
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what is the written flow rate of ur current canister and chiller ?
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post May 18 2011, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(tyja @ May 18 2011, 04:05 PM)
ermm..mine 3 feet, its took about 1 and half hour to cold down to 26.
and the flow water is so slow..thinking to have another canister to cover the flow...
what do you guys think?
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3 feet tank with 1000L/h is too slow
My 20inch cube is using eheim 2234 and 2215
I think you need another 1000L/h
How long is your hose from filter to chiller, chiller to tank?
Your filter is fully packed with media?
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QUOTE(ciohbu @ May 18 2011, 04:23 PM)
what is the written flow rate of ur current canister and chiller ?
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filter - eheim 2217
chiller - hailea hc 150 a
suppose to be compatible this two..


Added on May 18, 2011, 5:02 pm
QUOTE(weijie @ May 18 2011, 04:27 PM)
3 feet tank with 1000L/h is too slow
My 20inch cube is using eheim 2234 and 2215
I think you need another 1000L/h
How long is your hose from filter to chiller, chiller to tank?
Your filter is fully packed with media?
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yes,fully pack with media. (all bio rio)
piping, about 45cm..


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post May 18 2011, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(leoboa6 @ May 18 2011, 03:59 PM)
Not because it's expensive. Because it's damn sticky.
Salt all over the tank and lamp and basically everywhere. In a long run I think it will destroy my LCD and other electronic gadgets. Haha..
Well I spend whole day last week to DIY a cover with minimum air leakage with vent pulling the air out side. Somehow it worked.
The salt is a major issue. New 2.5 feet tank on the way. Going to collect it this evening. I'm still deciding of having a planted tank thou. But, "EMILY : Planted tank is so boring". Now aku pening kepala dah. Haha.. She forgot to log out when she use my browser. Haha.. Marine tank is so hard to maintain somehow. My LED light above the tank started to oxidized. =x

2.5ft tank need how many kg of sand? also how much is the co2 refill say a small 5 liter tank? Rm300+- inclusive of all other co2 equipment like the bubble counter and stuff? Eh, when you free jom la teman me to the shop and buy. I'm not good in planted tank. =x
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5 liter is a small tank? then my 0.5 liter tank how tiny? hahahaha 5liter im sure its rm20 in sg besi. mine refilled at rm10!

rm300++ can find but itll be big. u can get regulators below rm100 and the tank at about rm200. another rm50 for tubes buble counter and all.

internship season tak free. plus i look damn short standing next to you sad.gif

when u mau pergi shopping?heheh


Added on May 18, 2011, 10:24 pm
QUOTE(Andy0625 @ May 15 2011, 03:43 PM)
anyone here have aquarium in his bedroom? especially students that work place and sleeping place is the same location?
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when i sleep. my 2feet aquarium is 6inches away from my head lol

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post May 18 2011, 10:56 PM

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when u first bought ur chiller, have u asked how to install? is ur chiller is install before ur filter?
perhaps there's mistake during the installation. can draw us a picture?
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post May 19 2011, 06:31 AM

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QUOTE(Namgor2006 @ May 18 2011, 10:56 PM)
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when u first bought ur chiller, have u asked how to install? is ur chiller is install before ur filter?
perhaps there's mistake during the installation. can draw us a picture?
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inlet (filter) -> filter -> outlet (filter) -> Inlet (chiller) -> chiller -> outlet (chiller)

the flow is like this..


Added on May 19, 2011, 7:57 am
QUOTE(weijie @ May 18 2011, 04:27 PM)
3 feet tank with 1000L/h is too slow
My 20inch cube is using eheim 2234 and 2215
I think you need another 1000L/h
How long is your hose from filter to chiller, chiller to tank?
Your filter is fully packed with media?
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which filter that connect to chiller?
hows the performance before and after install chiller?

mine, before this using standard inflow and outflow, then i change to lily pipe 13mm...

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post May 19 2011, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(michanz @ May 18 2011, 10:23 PM)


Added on May 18, 2011, 10:24 pm
when i sleep. my 2feet aquarium is 6inches away from my head lol
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6 inches shocking.gif sweat.gif
later sakit kepala lor...
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QUOTE(michanz @ May 18 2011, 10:23 PM)
5 liter is a small tank? then my 0.5 liter tank how tiny? hahahaha 5liter im sure its rm20 in sg besi. mine refilled at rm10!

rm300++ can find but itll be big. u can get regulators below rm100 and the tank at about rm200. another rm50 for tubes buble counter and all.

internship season tak free. plus i look damn short standing next to you sad.gif

when u mau pergi shopping?heheh
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Ala wear heels la. Then you will be taller lor.. Haha..
Tak tau yet, now try to settle all the small re-arrangement in my house. Prolly next month gua.
My house in a mess now.. Heh..

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post May 19 2011, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(tyja @ May 19 2011, 06:31 AM)
inlet (filter) -> filter -> outlet (filter) -> Inlet (chiller) -> chiller -> outlet (chiller)

the flow is like this..


Added on May 19, 2011, 7:57 am

which filter that connect to chiller?
hows the performance before and after install chiller?

mine, before this using standard inflow and outflow, then i change to lily pipe 13mm...
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2215 is connected to the chiller
Hose length: 4feet from tank to filter, 2.5feet from filter to chiller, 4 feet from chiller back to tank
My 2215 is only 60% media because hose length is quite far
Flow rate doesn't seems effect much before/after install chiller
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post May 19 2011, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(weijie @ May 19 2011, 11:27 AM)
2215 is connected to the chiller
Hose length: 4feet from tank to filter, 2.5feet from filter to chiller, 4 feet from chiller back to tank
My 2215 is only 60% media because hose length is quite far
Flow rate doesn't seems effect much before/after install chiller
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My piping is less than yours, maybe chiller is the culprit..
i will get salesman to come to my house to fix everything that he sell to me! ..haha
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QUOTE(tyja @ May 19 2011, 06:31 AM)
inlet (filter) -> filter -> outlet (filter) -> Inlet (chiller) -> chiller -> outlet (chiller)

the flow is like this..
i think u should set up like this:
inlet (chiller) -> chillerr -> outlet (chiller) -> Inlet (filter) -> filter -> outlet (filter)
try to get a check valve for ur hose connection for chiller, while u syphone out the water to fill the chiller and connect the hose from ur chiller outlet to ur filter inlet.


it's not neceesary to get the pump for ur aquarium to pump the water to ur chiller.

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QUOTE(Namgor2006 @ May 19 2011, 11:01 PM)
i think u should set up like this:
inlet (chiller) -> chillerr -> outlet (chiller) -> Inlet (filter) -> filter -> outlet (filter)
try to get a check valve for ur hose connection for chiller, while u syphone out the water to fill the chiller and connect the hose from ur chiller outlet to ur filter inlet.


it's not neceesary to get the pump for ur aquarium to pump the water to ur chiller.
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If like this, all debris might sangkut at chiller right?
Nevermind, i think i already found the culprit. It is a lily pipe. The want that suck water out. Im using 13mm. Suppose to use 17mm


Added on May 20, 2011, 11:11 amis there anybody here use water pump to connect with chiller?


Added on May 20, 2011, 11:27 amstill my chiller will kick at 27 degree (set at 26 degree)..then temp increase from 27.1,27.2 and up to 29c...
is there any method to place the chiller? I mean do not block the back side of chiller or..

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Arh. 2217 need 17mm inlet and 12mm outlet
DO NOT connect tank->chiller->filter->tank
All dirty water will flow into your chiller before filter

Do not block front and back of the chiller
Chiller shall not be placed inside cabinet

Yes. It is possible to connect a pump (submerge/emerge) also can
But both kind of pump will generate much more heat compare to canister

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