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Lowtan
post Nov 13 2016, 12:09 PM

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for smaller unit, there are 2 facing and their pro and cons

(1) court / genting view
- pro - unobstructed view as court will not move for the time being. distance Genting shouldnt be that bad either.
- con - court view, anyone would not like them especially chinese?

(2) publika / montkiara view.
- pro - feeling of city view
- con -empty land in front with uncertain development type. any development will have undesired construction view.

Any suggestion and comment? i think price is either the same or not much different.
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post Nov 13 2016, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 13 2016, 09:50 PM)
Some of the units shld be facing Southeast which is the place of worship which is a big no no to many tenants n investors alike.

When i spoke to them, they gave a WIDE range of prices thats something like 590-850+k for the smallest unit. when the showroom ready?
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the SE view is their so called KLCC view, but this is only for bigger unit. i didn't realize it is also facing a big mosque there.

smaller unit only has court /genting or publika / mont kiara view.

wat i know is that the pricing for each floor up is not exceeding RM2k, which is decent. but i dont know how it came about to 850k. maybe that is pre-discount price for most expensive, and 590k is already a post discount price for cheapest.
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post Nov 20 2016, 01:58 AM

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i'm surprised that there are not much discussion about this project looking at the location, pricing which i think is affordable. is everyone quietly BBB or its just that its not a project worth considering?


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post Nov 20 2016, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 20 2016, 07:55 AM)
there are several key problems here.

1. pace of development has been very slow in the past n could be the same moving forward.
2. no banks financed this project thus far shld be a major concern
3. convention centres dont increase rentability at all
4. with mrt3 only coming in 10 yrs, the convention centre will probably be underutilized
5. road access for met n the whole dutamas will become much worse with the current road being very jammed up even before mrt completion.
6. too many high end apartments in KL, too few tenants
7. 1 anchor of the office tower connected to met1 will nt have any tenants tht cn afford to rent here.
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For point 7, you are refering to DBKL?yeah, you are right, they cant afford one.
i think the prospective tenant will come from within KL Metroplis, because they have enough components of offices, though that will come at a later stage. and they didnt have too much residence within, which is a good thing.
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post Nov 20 2016, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 20 2016, 09:26 AM)
Yes u named them  cry.gif  cry.gif
would u buy here? what is ur USP to justify ur purchase? i was interested last time then pulled back  hmm.gif
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Sentral, Bangsar, Bangsar South, and even Kota Damansara are all selling at 1k-1.2k psf. some of them is even leasehold. even Arte is selling at >1k plus, from un reputable developer (sorry guys, many people is complaining about these developer).

Publika is selling about slightly above 1k psf for similar size unit although it is freehold.

so for about 900psf, thats not too bad, looking at the location. and there are room for price to appreciate since this is the first phase.

i think Naza is not too bad of a developer looking at how they did for Platinum Park in KLCC.

overall i like the masterplan, and also the fact that this is the first phase.

that's my reason. thinking of pulling the trigger but yet to do so.

do you concur with my reasoning?
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post Nov 20 2016, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 20 2016, 07:55 AM)
there are several key problems here.

1. pace of development has been very slow in the past n could be the same moving forward.
2. no banks financed this project thus far shld be a major concern
3. convention centres dont increase rentability at all
4. with mrt3 only coming in 10 yrs, the convention centre will probably be underutilized
5. road access for met n the whole dutamas will become much worse with the current road being very jammed up even before mrt completion.
6. too many high end apartments in KL, too few tenants
7. 1 anchor of the office tower connected to met1 will nt have any tenants tht cn afford to rent here.
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for your point 2, u mean no bank is financing Naza for this project, or there is no bank to finance the buyer for MET 1?

for point 3, i dont think convention center will be dead if there is no MRT. reason being is that it is targeting at different kind of people everytime. it is not like commute to work that same people have to do everyday and not having it will be a make or break deal. exhibition on the other hand is different as it target a specific group of reach for every exhibition. say like Oil and gas, automotive, food industries, etc. I think they dont mind to take taxi, uber, grabcar. even my staff earning less than 3 k took uber to work. so what's the problem?
having convention center may not increase rentability, but it does increase the profile of the area. it is not a tenant puller, but it is a crowd puller which will vibrate the whole area. just like residence with golf course nearby (not necessary view), it didnt attract the tenant, but it is a good profile.
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post Nov 20 2016, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Nov 20 2016, 11:55 AM)
i have seen a few times with statement like "the exhibition hall has 2 or 3 years worth of event booked"

true or BS statement?
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maybe it is true, but for sure it is not every week that its fully booked. maybe some weeks in between that it is vacant, but they could be right that it was pre book 1-2 yrs ahead.
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post Nov 20 2016, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Nov 20 2016, 09:46 AM)
I thought it was quite good as well... the PSF deal is good. Solaris 3/Publika 2 is gonna be way higher than this.

But decided to hold the brake first mainly because I want to see how MITEC will perform. Yes they have many phases, which are mainly commercial offices. We all know commercial is a glut. The next residential phase will be the Hap Seng JV which may not start so soon... they are looking at 2018 earliest.

High end condos will have a risk and this case, I would prefer the smallest type to minimise my instalment cost. An alternative is to look into subsale of surrounding area.
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Pat Kor,
sub sale typically require high capital, unless you can find BMV (below market value) and capitalised on NMD (no money down), but still all processing fee is not cheap. that make new proj as an easy entrant.

commercial glut will affect those stand alone towers, like those in PJ. integrated development like this normally will do well, such as Sentral, bangsar South, Midvalley, and potentially EcoCity. of course we have others like BBCC, Bandar Malaysia (i dont know what is going on there), which i think will succeed in their own way.

Location wise is superb plus the overall concept is a mix development.
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post Nov 20 2016, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Nov 20 2016, 11:08 PM)
It needs time to succeed... in almost every new project today when it gets completed.

There are many below market value right now if scout around, nevertheless, the masterplan here is still very good, just that it is "over dependent" on MITEC essentially. This itself will be a risk in the first few years. They say a shopping mall will come up at MET3... and that will be few years from now. MRT3 is not so fast.

Good news is the extension of Publika (well it will be considered as a standalone identity) will be selling much more expensive PSF wise and this is likely to be confirmed as we sat with them recently.
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MITEC is something they can boast upon when there is nothing around yet. But the real success is the concept of the integrated development such as Bangsar South, Sentral and Midvalley. This is something they should promote. BTW, they are engaging Kiara Realty as sole agent, at least for the time being. Problem is there are not much hype about this project, which is a shame.

Publika 2 will be more expensive as it is already a household name in the area and they are riding on its popularity. Further, it will be freehold (if its the same as Publika).
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post Nov 21 2016, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Nov 21 2016, 08:30 AM)
exhibition hall without public transport?
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not yet... tongue.gif
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post Nov 27 2016, 08:49 PM

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went to the private preview today.

the price is not as cheap as what you think. those 900psf are on the parking level. thereafter, there is a huge jump of 70k, which easily push the price to >1k+ psf.

anyway booked my unit.

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post Nov 27 2016, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Nov 27 2016, 10:39 PM)
How much
What size
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smallest size, 677sf. about 800k before rebate. after rebate about 680k.
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post Nov 27 2016, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 27 2016, 11:22 PM)
was a bit interested till the staff told me abt the parking unit. if ur unit is NOT facing parking, its like 1.05kpsf nett but thr will be interest rebate, furnishing is aircond, washing machine, kitchen. either way, i feel this will fail given my previous comments on the project/area as a whole.

whats ur idea behind met1?  rclxm9.gif
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nothing is confirmed to be a gauranteed success. But looking at this area being matured, proven location with publika, solaris next to Metropolis, it wont go that bad. the only concern to me is whether Naza has the capacity to develop the entire plot. thats why they JV with Hap Seng and Triterra, which both a heavyweight. HP need no introduction, and Triterra is backed by one of the veteran and prominent man in property industries (what i heard la).

price wise it is higher than what i expected. yeah, they have a sub 900psf unit, but those are not a desirable one. real good units are those >1kpsf AFTER rebate. anyway in property, good unit is not cheap, and cheap unit is not good.

i look at it as entirety. the master plan, location and time of entry.
location - superb.
master plan - i dont think it can screw up especially with Naza. looking at their platinum park in KLCC i am quite impress.
time of entry - this is MET 1 with 8 more MET to go. enough said.


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post Dec 7 2016, 10:10 PM

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anyone else has booked the units?
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post Dec 8 2016, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(ElizaC @ Dec 8 2016, 01:00 PM)
Booked a unit too
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size, floor, facing.
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post Dec 8 2016, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(ElizaC @ Dec 8 2016, 09:25 PM)
Facing Mont Kiara, 677sf
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congrats...
mind telling why you choose Mont Kiara view?
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post Dec 8 2016, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(Realestate.my @ Dec 8 2016, 11:29 PM)
Facing publika, will it be affected by the daily loudspeaker from mosque?
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i think more of construction when Publika 2 is up..any view will be blocked by P2.
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post Dec 9 2016, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 9 2016, 07:36 AM)
met 1 is over how many acres ah? rmbr the whole place has crazy density n many buildings. so dont have to worry blocked view from publika when ur real view killer's are right nearby
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i;m not sure if you look at the masterplan, but most of the MET at running by the side of the land, in exception to MATRADE, MITEC and MITI office. they have more greenery than say Sentral, Bangsar South, Eco City, and Midvalley City.
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post Dec 13 2016, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(newbieinlowyat @ Dec 13 2016, 01:27 AM)
just wondering , met 1 studio vs arte studio , rental can compete ? just for kl metropolis itself
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i was considering Arte MK before. but after reviewing some of their completed projects, and overly done design which is never proven to be materilised based on their previous track record, i backed off. also their marketing and how they jack up the price couple of times from a mid 400k to mid 500k. that's absurd.
also the flow of line through your window, is a big no no. i want my window to be cleared from any obstruction.

arte studio is a small 400sf. MET 1 is a bigger unit with 1+1.
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post Dec 18 2016, 09:41 AM

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i think the issue of non payment of commission maybe a unique case as it seems he/she is the only one complaining. and i saw Naza TTDI had try to clarified and contacted
she is an agent who is working for an agency. alot of thing could have gone wrong in between.

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