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Streamyx Streamyx Is Planning Revising Fair Usage Policy, Do you agree or not ? Please Vote Now ?

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post Dec 18 2010, 12:40 AM, updated 15y ago

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Latest Information Company who designed the FUP

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Source http://bit.ly/qyuF3Q

Truly stated that their attention for the ISP to get

Additional bandwidth saving by ISP

Additional revenue for ISP Telco via additional charge from exceed data

This is recent meetup with blogger and twitteratis with @TMCorp they describe more about FUP

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TM is committed to ensuring our customers receive the best broadband service at the most competitive price. To achieve this goal, we provide a contended broadband service. This means our Internet bandwidth (capacity) is catered to be shared by all our customers at any one point in time, to ensure we provide a satisfactory and acceptable performance on an equal basis to all our customers.

However, a small number of customers use more than their "fair share" of the Internet bandwidth provided by us. On average, about 10% of our customers are using a disproportionate amount of Internet bandwidth. These customers degrade the performance of our broadband service by taking bandwidth away from other customers, who use the service fairly.

For example, some customers use P2P or file sharing software, which constantly sends and receives videos and other types of very large files, throughout the day. These activities (download and upload continuously) use a lot of bandwidth and can significantly reduce the connection speed, which other customers are getting to access the Internet during peak hours. We don’t believe this is fair to the vast majority of our customers.

We wish to bring to your attention our traffic prioritization policy with regards to P2P and Fair Usage Policy. We would like to reiterate that the P2P throughput is subject to peers (seed) availability and their throughput as well.  Kindly note that TM does not have any control over peers’ availability or throughput.

The Fair Usage Policy automatically identifies the extremely heavy users and manages their bandwidth in order to protect the service of all our other customers. This traffic prioritization policy will protect the quality of service for the majority of our customers when they use the service, while at the same time, still allowing the extremely heavy users to continue to send and receive files with certain restrictions. With this policy in place, we will prioritize Internet activities like web browsing, live streaming, messaging applications and VOIP access while traffic to P2P sites will be given lower priority, due to the high bandwidth consumption of such services.

We wish to also highlight that as an Internet Service Provider (ISP), TM only provides access to the Internet and does not guarantee content delivery and performance where it is not within the domain of TM as an ISP. In fact, our international traffic management policy is designed to cater for all our customers so they have an optimal surfing experience within the normal limits of Internet usage.

As our priority is for all our customers to have a positive Internet experience, we wish to emphasize that it is important for all our customers to practice responsible usage of the allocated bandwidth based on normal usage.

We would like to reiterate that we are not against the use of P2P but we would like to educate our customers that the usage of excessive P2P does impact the overall service availability to our other customers.

TM does provide every customer with an allocated bandwidth, where other customers may use when not used by the others.  Unfortunately, the nature of P2P more often than not, takes more than their allocated bandwidth, thus causing undue setbacks for other users when they want to use the service.

As a responsible service provider, we believe it is our responsibility and commitment to educate and encourage responsible usage of the infrastructure we provide.


CR = Contention Ratio speed to international traffic being capped as low as 256kbps/ 512kbps

VL= Volumed Based pay more if u want to download more

Answer No = Keep the FUP as it is at the moment we signup for Streamyx


Your vote and comments will be presented to TM

I hope mod will pinned this thread


Screenshot of their slides

http://img405.imageshack.us/slideshow/webp...101218at326.png

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Source from www.qiilans87.com

Only 9 minutes of the event not the full event





A few quote from our forumer

QUOTE(Henshin @ Jan 5 2011, 05:19 PM)
So, according to those slides TM Net produced during its recent PR exercise, the company's definition of a heavy user is someone who downloads 25GB a month. This is laughable for all sorts of reasons.

If you were to use a 1Mbps Streamyx connection at full speed (let's say 100KB per second) for 24 hours a day for 30 days a month, you'd be able to download 247GB a month. TM Net doesn't want you to do this. TM Net expects you to use your 1Mbps broadband connection at 10KB/s on average every month. In other words, if you use more than 10% of your 1Mbps connection's total capacity a month, TM has now decided you're a heavy user.

(For 4Mbps Streamyx users, 25GB per month translates to 2.5% of total bandwidth capacity.)

To make this all the more insulting, TM Net's official page for its Streamyx site boasts "unlimited usage for a fixed rate". This is false advertising, of course, and it's by a communications company which is absolutely terrible at communications. There's no English dictionary in the world that defines "unlimited" as "having undisclosed limits." Prospective Streamyx subscribers would be less than impressed by the ugly truth: "Restricted to 25GB per month with an average speed of 10KB/s".

The second reason why TM Net's definition of heavy user is laughably absurd is the company has another broadband service, UniFi, and TM Net is allowing those users download 120GB per month (and as the UniFi official site notes there is no cap for the time being). Keep in mind that both UniFi and Streamyx users are using the same international bandwidth.

Don't be misled by TM Net's clumsy and transparent attempts to shift the blame from itself. Heavy users of Streamyx are not stealing bandwidth from other Streamyx users; the heavy users are simply making full use of their connections they paid for.

What's actually happening is TM Net is severely restricting Streamyx heavy users in order to maximise international bandwidth for UniFi users. In other words, TM Net is taking away international bandwidth from Streamyx users to cater to UniFi users. TM Net is doing this very quietly so the only ones who are noticing it now are the Streamyx heavy users.

Some of you may not consider TM Net's policies troubling because it doesn't currently affect you. Consider this: TM Net gets to decide who is a heavy downloader and under what circumstances. Download 120GB with a UniFi connection? TM Net says, "No problem." Download 25GB on a Streamyx connection and TM Net says you're a heavy user whose connection must be throttled so severely you won't be able to download critical data including OS service packs, security patches, application upgrades or anti-virus definition updates.

More to the point, TM Net also gets to decide what amount constitutes an excessively high download amount. Today, it's 25GB a month. In a year, TM Net could decide it's 20GB or perhaps 15GB. This is called moving the goalposts and to mix sporting metaphors, this is not cricket. TM Net, having gone from "unlimited" to 25GB, will most assuredly change this amount once again.

The real problem here is TM Net is set on maximising profits and as such is eager to increase its broadband subscription base without making the necessary infrastructure investments to maintain a high quality of service. Increasing  the number of subscribers means increasing revenue but increasing international bandwidth capacity to maintain quality of service means increasing expenditure which eats up profits.


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post Dec 18 2010, 02:22 AM

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I'm not working for TM

1. They are currently studying on this issue ( I definitely will not agree with Volumed Based ) not fair for users only 1 wired broadband and we have no choices . Feel free to throttled p2p traffic for UniFi and Streamyx much more better.

2. The FUP is not final yet ( comments and critics will be presented to TM )

3. A new site will be setup for users to login and check ur current bandwidth usage to educate them ( In progress by TM )

p/s: It will be launch next year for the new FUP

I'm a free journalist

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post Dec 18 2010, 02:27 AM

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I just bring up this issue is due to they will be doing it by raising ur concern here it will be highlighted . We already asked them to put on an officiall research for this sensitive issue for all subscribers.


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post Dec 18 2010, 02:28 AM

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No

Meaning u don't agree keep it just the way it is now :-)


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post Dec 18 2010, 02:31 AM

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TM Ceo is concern how do i tell him it's via meetup :-)


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I cannot edit the polls anyway stated the thread
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Updated screenshot of their slides in first post

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Hope those who made comments earlier read the slides for better acknowledgment
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Feel free to comments

No problemo :-)
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post Dec 18 2010, 09:23 PM

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Here is one example of case for what happened to me between Maxis

I subscribe few years back RM 99 unlimited data

Then when the iphone 3GS coming in they revised the the package those who paid RM 98 with apply the FUP 3GB limitation

Maxis send an email that those who use it earlier won't affected and feel free to use it.

Only new subscriber or those who take iPhone package who migrate from RM99 unlimited to RM 98 ( 3GB ) affected with the FUP

Based on MCMC regulation the ISP cannot amend the packages for those who subscribe earlier with new t.o.s a.k.a FUP. ( Check MCMC regulation Broadband act / SLA )

So maxis honor us the old subscriber and they are still unlimited until now regardless of usage no FUP and what so ever applied.

In this case this @TMCorp might revised the FUP and those who new signup will be affected or worst case scenario they will terminate all 1.6 million subscriber contract and ask us to subscribe again .

This was recently happened to all business and residential fix telephon lines they were asked to go to TM Point and migrate to signup with the new fix packages


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QUOTE(automan5891 @ Dec 18 2010, 10:21 PM)
PAYU model. laugh.gif Trust me TM doesn't want it for their light users like my friends. They pay Streamyx RM110 every month just for e-mail, chatting and facebook. The perfect streamyx customers.
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Email chat n facebook then user Celcom Broadband jer lah bro tongue.gif don't use wired berukband
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So if we are setting up an online petition would it help ?

This does happened to m2u when they want to charge their m2u online banking few years ago and they back it off :-)



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post Dec 19 2010, 10:03 AM

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I choose no caps :-) leave it as it is

Just throttled p2p for both unifi and streamyx :-) so less congestion into the network
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Just an analogy :-)


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QUOTE(vapeace @ Dec 19 2010, 12:49 PM)
but i thnk u need more elobration on your main page

waht is VB, LB and CR

so brief, hardly understanable
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Pls read the slides :-)
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QUOTE(birain @ Dec 20 2010, 01:25 AM)
see this pdf from skmm, quota for all wired package is unlimited. vmad.gif  mad.gif

http://www.skmm.gov.my/link_file/what_we_d...10_Q2_Wired.pdf

*when i voted "NO", I am expecting them to revert back to pre-2010 policy, not the current or a modified version.
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Guys u should check out this site also :-)

http://www.cfm.org.my/download-centre#code
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2 hours use internet a day hahaha kinda fakap tongue.gif

I work on my pc more than 8 hours a day and i pay a lot for internet access i deserve net neutrality


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QUOTE(SkullNBones @ Dec 20 2010, 02:50 PM)
If TM just wants to give 30GB, YTL will be very happy.
YES 4G can help alleviate TM's problem of too many customers.

For all you know plans are already underway to help TM with their problem kot.
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Yeah there is no point using overpaid / over priced wired broadband :-) all the wireless competitor would be happy and they will start loosing customers :-) for sure . The only reasons why TM still selling because their DSL customers and the word unlimited .


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QUOTE(mylinear @ Dec 20 2010, 03:59 PM)
Whether it is from you to the switch or not, it is still a a shared broadband resource, not dedicated. That is my point. I didn't go look at the TOS etc again, but just from their FAQ:

See Q37 at:
http://www.streamyx.com/customer_care/cust...stomer_care_faq
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See at Q41

Unlimited means that there is no time capping for user to access to the Internet and it does not mean that user can download/upload an unlimited volume of data.
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QUOTE(lopak @ Dec 21 2010, 02:10 AM)
streamyx/tmnet trying to find a loophole in  unlimited bandwidth service contract. whistling.gif

smart ppl will sue them if FUP wasn't there because breach of contract of soft/hard capping for  unlimited bandwidth service.

p2p such as torrent play a major roles of hogging the bandwidth.capping is the answer.no other ways around it.

its not unlimited bandwidth service anymore if they start soft/hard capping/throttle

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I agreed :-)

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