Last I heard, our cable broke again.
Streamyx Streamyx Is Planning Revising Fair Usage Policy, Do you agree or not ? Please Vote Now ?
Streamyx Streamyx Is Planning Revising Fair Usage Policy, Do you agree or not ? Please Vote Now ?
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Dec 22 2010, 12:51 AM
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Last I heard, our cable broke again.
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Dec 22 2010, 02:51 AM
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QUOTE(birain @ Dec 22 2010, 02:19 AM) yeah they should start having anniversaries for it.Added on December 22, 2010, 2:53 am QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Dec 22 2010, 01:44 AM) another way to throttle is progressively... basic fup fail. how will your advanced fup work? also, their objective is most perhaps not taking out heavy users, but as usual, taking advantage.. and hunch says, it's to promote unifi. with unifi they got speed, but cap and more cash.for example for a 2mb line, once reached 15GB... 90% of international speed 25GB... 80% of international speed 35GB... 70% of international speed. 45GB... 60% of international speed. 55GB-100GB... 40% of international speed. >100GB... RM5 per GB (still 40%) anything less than 40% of international speed would be too low for a house that uses a 2mb line for a whole family... so this is where the RM2 per GB should come in... or... just keep it at 40%... until they cross a high mark (unlikely) of 100GB... then start the RMx per GB then for a 1mb line, throttling the international speeds too much will cause the line to be unusable for household more than 1 user... hence for this package, 15GB... 95% of international speed 25GB... 90% of international speed 35GB.... 80% of international speed 45GB.... 70% of international speed 55GB.... RM 2 per GB (still 70%) 55GB of international is quite alot for 1Mbps (i think, for my usage)... it's about 1.8GB a day... is about 75MB per hour... but i doublt people will online 24 hours, if you are, for the reason of pirating something, then, well, u'll suffer, which is the point ... so if you make it 12 hrs... it will be 150MB of international traffic per hour for 12hours of online time a day... for 30 days in a month. If you make it 6 hour online a day in a month... u will get 300MB per hour before you start payin... ... do note that this is international and excluding local CDN stuff like youtube... somethin like that... it also follows "u pay more u get more" ideology.. and also...the more u troll the bandwidth...the more we'll take it away from you... and yes, *we pay for unlimited* it's just advertising terms. if petrol company says "unleash the full power of your engine", it doesnt mean if your engine is capable of producing 150hp will produce 150hp when using that petrol... same for TM i guess... they have defined "unlimited" as unlimited time. Same goes to all that Shampoo products that reduce dandruff, that can actually rebond (straighten your hair) as shown in their ads on TV... if it does for you, great. If it doesnt, well... anyways TM will do this one way or another i guess... this way, TM gets to save bandwidth w/o affecting average users much moderately heavy users will be slightly affected heavy users will be affected hoggers will suffer This post has been edited by biatche: Dec 22 2010, 02:53 AM |
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Dec 22 2010, 12:51 PM
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Limit what? Hoggers or no hoggers, when you experience slowness it's not because of hoggers, it had always been because their cable broke or some funny maintenance / upgrade. Don't buy their rubbish, they just want u to upgrade to unifi.
You fools want users to pay more when everyone's paying more than the world already for slow connection with constant problems? Don't get brainwashed. |
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Dec 23 2010, 02:01 PM
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they read, they listened and they grinned
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Dec 23 2010, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(guardioo @ Dec 23 2010, 04:05 PM) Im not sure what you guys think about this. All this is conspiracy.But i give you a simplest form. The bandwidth itself doesn't necessarily cost money (if you own the network entirely), but there is a cost to setup & maintain the network in terms of equipment & expertise, and that cost must be passed onto users of the network & the amount you use the connection should dictate how much each user should need to pay. measuring how much bandwidth a customer uses is a fair way to distribute your costs across the customer base. So like Malaysia to Singapore, 10Gbps connection do cost money. 1. Setup cost. 2. Employee cost. 3. Equiment cost. 4. Data center cost. 5. Many others..... Most of the ISP's customers are hogging bandwidth that have no limitations of downloads then sooner rather then later the ISP is going to need more bandwidth. The reason becoz they put caps, they doesnt need to buy more bandwidth and allow more users to subscribe, so its all depends isp want to earn how much from users by the lump sump bandwidth they pay, the submarine cable the joint venture with others company, peer to peer to malaysia to singapore, malaysia to thailand... All this is cost. |
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Dec 23 2010, 11:12 PM
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Yeb this is exactly what I've been saying.
So you have heavy users and unifi. So they want to make $ out of heavy users, and cap them too via unifi. As for "normal" users, why exactly do they need to upgrade to unifi when streamyx is already enough for them? Normal users don't need more speed/bandwidth do they? But, they would if streamyx is actually too slow. All this is profits. |
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Dec 24 2010, 12:51 PM
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Dear TM, you may not know about right and wrong, and you may never know the right path, but do you have the heart of care? have you asked god if you're doing the right thing? Do you have an inch of care for your people? they who can only depend on no one but you.
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Dec 25 2010, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(vapeace @ Dec 25 2010, 03:21 PM) instead more response from TM would better.. it like one-sided information here.. we talk among our self but no response from TM itself That's the thing, they don't care about image. Money first. What good is image without money? They don't care if customers are happy, because there's nothing that customers can do. You can survive with your quota, and you do not have a choice. There are no better choices. They are the first in making money, and that's good stuff to them, and who cares about you! You lose, they win. They are not that stupid, they have thought out everything that you're thinking. They are a huge corporation with a lot of people. They have paid advisers. They can think. That's why they have such good annual profits (and that's surely underestimated). All this is because the public is weak. We have no control of our country. TM and Co. will step all over us!how would we know what on their mind before we start give our own opinion it like playing a game of dart throwing but with no dart board to throw at back to agenda. IF tm is reading this. it really unfair for few individual to do a crime but whole community is punish for that. Yes i label it as a crime the injustice TM is doing to punish everyone just for a few individual who abuse their line. another example is like a few robber rob a bank but the whole neighborhood is reprimanded for investigation and punishment. You are a multinational company, your image is priority. Doing this does not improve your image seriously. What for u have management to run your promotion and services while in the back your are doing stuff making customer unhappy with you. Like wise again, your current FUP automatically handle those abuser. Then handle those abuser while the normal one is left alone. It that too much to ask or demand ? Why must until the level where even normal user have to face similar jurisdiction which is imposed on the abuser. Another on the agenda, i read about unifi 60GB per-month and 2GB per-day usage until finish the 60GB monthly quote. I have to ask from where u get your management and IT employees ? It is from some kampung university or from oversea. Let take a simple example, you are given a monthly ration of 30kg of rice. Then the authorities ( TM ), say u can only take 1KG of rice perday until 30days instead of 30kg straight. It all green when everyone is at home and no extra ppl is included. So how when no one is at home. The 1KG of rice can just throw away ? Or when there extra guests. 1kg of rice shared ? each person only get one spoon full of rice only. Seriously have you even considered that ? So TM want to be the first ISP company that implement monthly quote and a daily quote on same package ? Being 1st in good stuff is ok.. Being first in not good stuff is a huge no no. So TM please do some justice by punishing only the criminal not everyone. You already have most of us bonded with the contract and yet we no complain. But when problem crop out, we cant just sit down and watch you do whatever you want. Surprisingly other ISP bond you for 1month to 1 year. TM is 2 years.. i dunno why. Think about it.. if MX510 claims that TM is reading this, why wouldn't they even bother to reply and talk to their customers here? They can AT LEAST answer some of our questions here, that have been repeated over and over. Why? So either MX510 is not telling the truth.. or they have other ideas in mind. Obviously -- other ideas. And if they do want to reply, they probably have some spies here to do it. They need a puppet to play it out. My psychoanalysis. |
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Dec 26 2010, 11:25 PM
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Dec 27 2010, 02:19 PM
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Streamyx is going in the right direction. You see, with direction, you need destination and their destination is more money (unifi) and less bandwidth (fup). Of course that's fuped up for all of us and the entire country. Government is not backing us up, but rather calling them, "not monopoly".
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Dec 28 2010, 06:59 PM
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busy editing video?
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Dec 30 2010, 06:36 PM
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First of all, you guys need to rid "bandwidth is not cheap" resonating constantly in your head. They are a monopoly, charging high for poor and slow service, way slower than the rest of the world. Consider neighbor Singapore, same "zone" as us. They have competitors and offer way more bandwidth for ?lower? price. Not to mention, fewer users.
Study their annual profits (underestimated FOR SURE). If we were to sit in their shoes.. the ONLY thing i'd think is we're a company with NOTHING to lose.. no matter what they do. They want to earn more, and spend less. FOR THEMSELVES. If they got any problem, they have "people" looking after them. This is pure evil. There's no need to reason with EVIL. Evil will never reason with you! |
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Jan 1 2011, 04:44 AM
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when you're a ambulance driver u wanna get from a to b fast
when you're a supply truck, you wanna carry as much as possible in msia.. an ambulance driver has hard time moving thru traffic even with that 'fast' lane. by the time it arrives, character is dead supply vehicle always got delay. cuz tax la and what crap. this cant bring in..... that cant... keep dropping our packets |
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Jan 1 2011, 03:16 PM
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wkkay why do you monitor this thread? iirc, you're in oz now no? what does this matter to you? and what do you actually hopefully wish to see of all these?
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Jan 2 2011, 04:56 AM
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Years ago, there was no FUP policy for Streamyx. Now they edited their policies. So you upgrade to Unifi and pay more now, and what happens if they apply FUP oh wait they will on Unifi also. 20mbit becomes 0.5mbit.... whats the point?
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Jan 5 2011, 05:51 PM
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Cut the story short, TMNet's not the one to blame. They were given the angle, all they had to do was play it. They did the right thing, right in their own way. Who exactly gave them the angle?? Yeb.
BTW, don't believe RM800 mil profits. It's not possible. Has to be more. In Malaysia, you can tamper with digits to your liking, so long as you share some of those digits with your friend on that grand chair. |
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Jan 16 2011, 04:28 AM
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a poll bout whether they like/hate TMNET would be more meaningful. or maybe a poll whether CEO should resign.
lets see the votes then. |
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Jan 24 2011, 02:22 PM
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slowdowns, slow like before, no different than during those days we were all chatting.
to those of you religious, please go to your place of worship, mosque, church, temple, well (don't forget to carry a coin). Make a prayer. Ask for his holiness for one and only one thing. Better Internet? No FUP? More isps? DONT BE GREEDY. After a few weeks.. ask yourself, who is god? Let me guess, the one on the highest floor of Menara right? God has his "reasons". |
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Apr 20 2011, 12:19 PM
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dear conference users.
so users give in and how exactly does tm give in? malaysian internet is already behind other countries. do you not agree? |
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Apr 21 2011, 12:56 AM
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its logical they set caps because of "abusive" users. actually, can't quite say its abusive because of the way they advertised their products in the beginning and now.
so now, they wanna cut bandwidth of abusive users.. and....... give the bandwidth to....... other users? do other users need this bandwidth? are we going to see reduced pricing? or higher burst rates? no use ranting.. if bn continues to rule, internet will just continue to suck. |
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