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post Dec 19 2010, 10:01 PM

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It is so not worth it.
BTW my kid's cord blood has just 4 more years to go.
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post Dec 20 2010, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Dec 19 2010, 10:26 PM)
if nothing happen, it may like pieces of rubbish; if something happen, it may worth like a gold mine

mind to share the packages coverage you signed? just for more understanding before make decision...
no going to pay for the annual fees to maintain stem cell after 4 years?
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huh? my plan was a 10yr plan.
Bro, best you do your research from a scientific point of view plus understanding the level of integrity of Bolehland's businessman.

Looking back, I would have make a better choice by buying an insurance policy for the mother & child instead of buying stemcell storage. I dun see Stem Cell as even an insurance.

BTW why do I get a feeling that you are promoting Stem cell storage?

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post Dec 20 2010, 12:13 PM

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Stem cell is still in its infancy and there are just TOO many claim which are not substantiated. Reading back at what you have written I see too many ASSUMPTIONS, IF's and Maybe's. Sorry as I person who has bought a Stem Cell program, if give the oppotunity again I would not subscribe UNLESS there is substantial improvement in its usage. Currently it is just not worth it!

BTW do you know you can buy stem cell, if you really need it?
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post Dec 20 2010, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Dec 20 2010, 12:41 PM)
but one of video i posted at 1st page which Malaysia patient case used stem cell and shown in newspaper... or you means the outcomes still no good enough or the probability rate to recover with stem cell still low?
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The probability rate to recover with stem cell still too low unless you or your kid has genetic abnormality.
So it is probably best to see where you should put your hard earn money. Check your kid's genome for any problem. Weigh out your option as to the %age of using that stem cell before it expires vs other forms of insurance.

QUOTE(gkl83 @ Dec 20 2010, 12:41 PM)
....so i concerned on company's ethical issues too such as close down, cheating, difficulties to claim fees (Rm100k), etc...
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I guess this is going to be the main talking point as to whether it is worth throw money to this people. And ethically, Amber Chia is not the kind of ambassador I would trust, my personal opinion.
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post Dec 20 2010, 04:48 PM

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Also I think start-up parents or parents having 1st child tends to be more vulnerable and susceptible to 'salesman talk'
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post Dec 20 2010, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(moorish @ Dec 20 2010, 06:11 PM)
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rclxub.gif wah lau eh, hell know no fury like a lady's scorn. laugh.gif

Why la so much emo? Did I break your rice bowl? hmm.gif

Actually I did answer your question, unfortunately you don't read too well or missed post#25.
More over you justified it in your own statement - in 20 years time I'm quite certain the numbers will at least double. . And girl I did my research too during my 'opportunity' and I guess, as vergas's article puts it, emotional marketing took over.
But after all these years I also realised..
..Stem cell is still in its infancy (even after 6 yrs already as a customer).

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post Dec 22 2010, 12:00 PM

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Wat are the 60 diseases?
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post Dec 22 2010, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(moorish @ Dec 22 2010, 07:24 PM)
cant rber, you've sign up why not you call them and ask.

I think the 60 diseases or rather 60 conditions is inclusive of injury, one of them I rber is spinal cord injury.
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They also says not so many, so I wan to know why are you so sure have 60? hmm.gif
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post Dec 23 2010, 08:29 AM

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Why should I trust a site that is marketing & promoting storage of stem cells?

Here are more info for a better perspective on Stem Cell treatment. Use your own judgment on which sites are more credible.
Top Ten Things to Know About Stem Cell Treatments
Patient Handbook on Stem Cell Therapies >> http://www.isscr.org/clinical_trans/pdfs/I...entHandbook.pdf
Your health shouldn’t be in the hands of a salesman
Patient in Thailand Dies From Treatment From Own Stem Cells

Bottom-line : Always ask your medical doctor for advice on what is ACTUALLY available and to wat extent & cost is the 'cure'.

*Is that so called 'cure' experimental or just alleviate the condition or really 100% cure?

*Also so far the chance of you using the stuff is 0.03%, and in seeking a cure you may have to raise additional fund or buy additional insurance (doubt anyone would sell you by then)

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post Dec 28 2010, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(dirsly @ Dec 28 2010, 10:47 AM)
.....side effect by using those option is confirm whereby if u use stem cell there is no side effect because we are using our own life cell and is totally great.
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Not 100% true.

A woman with kidney disease has died after receiving an experimental stem cell treatment at a private clinic in Thailand, and a postmortem examination of her kidneys revealed that the treatment was almost certainly responsible for her death.
The woman suffered from lupus nephritis, a disease in which the immune system attacks the kidneys. When medications no longer controlled her disease, she went to a still-unnamed clinic in Bangkok where doctors said they could treat her disease using stem cells drawn from her own bone marrow.
See report below >>
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http://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/early/...111156.abstract
Some reports suggest that autologous hematopoietic stem cell transplantation holds potential for treatment of renal diseases such as lupus nephritis, but the safety of delivering various stem cell types (hematopoietic, mesenchymal, and endothelial precursors) is not well established. Here, we report a case of lupus nephritis treated by direct renal injection of autologous stem cells recovered from peripheral blood. The patient developed masses at the sites of injection and hematuria. We suspected transitional cell carcinoma but nephrectomy revealed that the masses were angiomyeloproliferative lesions. We believe that this previously undescribed pathologic entity is stem cell–derived or –induced. The biologic potential, including the neoplastic potential, of this lesion is unknown. This case illustrates that the development of angiomyeloproliferative lesions is a possible complication of stem cell therapy.


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