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post Dec 15 2010, 01:21 AM, updated 15y ago

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Planning to do some kind of paint protection for my new car, and am very interested in Sierra Glow as it seems low in maintenance. Anyone has got any long term experience with it? Anything more than 8 months would be good. 1 year would be perfect haha. I've read many forums and articles about it, but still can't find long term effects of it.
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post Dec 15 2010, 01:25 AM

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if you live in KL.. would you want to do this?
your car prone to scratches.. by motorcycles.. and during parking..

once scratch.. you'll lazy to take care anymore.. ask them.. 5 years warranty including touch up/redo parts that has been repainted or not?
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post Dec 15 2010, 01:38 AM

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From what I gather (read many pages of forum threads and articles LOL), they will touch up portions for you if needed but it is not covered under warranty.

Anyway, my main concern is, I have not much time to wash my car. I can afford 20 mins to rinse and dry my car every few days though. If Sierra Glow can keep my car in a condition where the majority of it is easy to clean for a year or more, I'll be more than happy to spend that few hundred already. By the way, I rarely get caught in jams and city traffic happy.gif Parking can be scary sometimes though. Some people just don't use brains when they open their doors.

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Dec 15 2010, 01:25 AM)
if you live in KL.. would you want to do this?
your car prone to scratches.. by motorcycles.. and during parking..

once scratch.. you'll lazy to take care anymore.. ask them.. 5 years warranty including touch up/redo parts that has been repainted or not?
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then those detailing shops in KL can close shop (tutup kedai) already if its really like what u were saying tongue.gif
car enthusiast do not have the lazy feel towards their car when it comes to taking care
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post Dec 15 2010, 08:31 AM

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If u read the sierra glow website ull fibd that it still need a little maintenance. Have to use type 1 claybar to remove those nasty tar near wheel.

Since u have 20mins to spare, why dont u get ONR (optimum no rinse) for quick wash.

However if u are still going for sierra glow pls share us the results.
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post Dec 15 2010, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(rhaizo @ Dec 15 2010, 08:31 AM)
If u read the sierra glow website ull fibd that it still need a little maintenance. Have to use type 1 claybar to remove those nasty tar near wheel.

Since u have 20mins to spare, why dont u get ONR (optimum no rinse) for quick wash.

However if u are still going for sierra glow pls share us the results.
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Yes, they recommend washing using the 2 bucket method, especially within 24hours if there's stuff like bird droppings, and need to visit once a year for inspection, which is not too bad (http://sierraglow.com/after.htm). Nothing about claying, unless you mean I will still need to do that myself, which I guess I probably will not. ONR looks interesting, I'll take that into consideration. Where can I purchase bottles of ONR? Still leaning towards glowing the car though, as the hydrophobic layer is supposed to last about 1 year, and shine for 5 years >.< I'll wager it's an exageration, so I'm still looking for long term user reviews.


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post Dec 15 2010, 09:16 AM

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Done Sierra Glow for my car recently so can't really say the long term effects. Only for 1 month. My car is a white hatchback car so it is very very easy to see when it gets dirty because my apartment block have a lot of people renovating so dust gets trapped all over and now its the raining season.

The good thing about SG is that just a normal wash (RM10) makes it looks like it has been waxed! Thats the good thing I see from it recently.
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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Dec 15 2010, 01:25 AM)
if you live in KL.. would you want to do this?
your car prone to scratches.. by motorcycles.. and during parking..

once scratch.. you'll lazy to take care anymore.. ask them.. 5 years warranty including touch up/redo parts that has been repainted or not?
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i just get sierra glow to my car last 2 months. and yes, i had scratched my car recently...sent to them and they polished the scratch and give the treatment back and now it is just like new...no scratch anymore....even they say, if i had an accident, i change new bumper....they will give FREE treatment for the new bumper as long as within 5 years...to me, it is really worth it...easy maintenance + good after sale service...
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post Dec 15 2010, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(RahXeph0n @ Dec 15 2010, 09:14 AM)
Yes, they recommend washing using the 2 bucket method, especially within 24hours if there's stuff like bird droppings, and need to visit once a year for inspection, which is not too bad (http://sierraglow.com/after.htm). Nothing about claying, unless you mean I will still need to do that myself, which I guess I probably will not. ONR looks interesting, I'll take that into consideration. Where can I purchase bottles of ONR? Still leaning towards glowing the car though, as the hydrophobic layer is supposed to last about 1 year, and shine for 5 years >.< I'll wager it's an exageration, so I'm still looking for long term user reviews.
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Sorry cant remember from where I read about they clay. But I somehow remember reading from somewhere that u still need to use clay type 1 to remove tar spots. However this is very seldom maybe 1-2 times a year.

You can get ONR from KC's frm lowyat.net, read his blog http://thedetailers.blogspot.com.

I've used ONR for quick detailing and wash. For a newbie like me I can say that its a good way to wash ur car since u dont use much water therefore saving the mama earth. You should get alot of microfibers for this else ull end up inducing swirl marks which can be really irritating. Can get some from bro MSK frm lowyat.net.

I wonder if you've done the sierra glow can u go the sideroad car wash? from what ive observe, the roadside car wash not using proper towel which in the end ur car will have alottttt of swirl marks.
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QUOTE(rhaizo @ Dec 15 2010, 09:50 AM)
Sorry cant remember from where I read about they clay. But I somehow remember reading from somewhere that u still need to use clay type 1 to remove tar spots. However this is very seldom maybe 1-2 times a year.

You can get ONR from KC's frm lowyat.net, read his blog http://thedetailers.blogspot.com.

I've used ONR for quick detailing and wash. For a newbie like me I can say that its a good way to wash ur car since u dont use much water therefore saving the mama earth. You should get alot of microfibers for this else ull end up inducing swirl marks which can be really irritating. Can get some from bro MSK frm lowyat.net.

I wonder if you've done the sierra glow can u go the sideroad car wash? from what ive observe, the roadside car wash not using proper towel which in the end ur car will have alottttt of swirl marks.
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I have done that with side road car wash, Shell station car was and a car wash place in Aman Suria. Frankly, all also results in the same. Hardly even see any swirl marks at all.
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post Dec 15 2010, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Dec 15 2010, 07:50 AM)
then those detailing shops in KL can close shop (tutup kedai) already if its really like what u were saying tongue.gif
car enthusiast do not have the lazy feel towards their car when it comes to taking care
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lol. thats different. this is something you pay straight 600 ~ 700 bucks. i mean for coating and wax is different thing.
if scratch, the coating gone. when we go back do we need to pay additional bucks to recoat or free? that what i meant. tongue.gif

QUOTE(azmirkhalid @ Dec 15 2010, 09:29 AM)
i just get sierra glow to my car last 2 months. and yes, i had scratched my car recently...sent to them and they polished the scratch and give the treatment back and now it is just like new...no scratch anymore....even they say, if i had an accident, i change new bumper....they will give FREE treatment for the new bumper as long as within 5 years...to me, it is really worth it...easy maintenance + good after sale service...
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if like this then it's really worth!
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post Dec 15 2010, 12:19 PM

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Ah, I've been reading' KC's blog. Very interesting, wiosh I had the time, but I guess I'm just not a pure auto enthusiast haha.

@azmirkhalid
If that's true, that's really awesome. Anyway, if the whole car costs about 500-600, then changing and redoing bumper should cost less, which is manageable IMO.


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post Jul 5 2011, 12:55 PM

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Is been a year I had did the detailing and the paint on my car still looks new. Really satisfied with the results.
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post Oct 17 2011, 01:13 PM

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please advice where can do the Sierra Glow coating, i stay in cheras which is the nearest place for me?
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My car has been treated for 1 1/2 year and still look very good. Of course you cannot compare with a newly polished car parking side by side. But i am very satisfy with the result for the money i paid
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please advice where can do the Sierra Glow coating, i stay in cheras which is the nearest place for me?
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Mind posting recent pictures of your Accord and your friends Sonata
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I did the SG on my new Optima 2 weeks ago. SG is meant to protect the paint from oxydisation not damage. Its 5 year warranty covers the paint quality. SG is not meant to protect against physical scratches or damage from flying stones on highways. It does provide a certain degree of protection as it covers the original paint with another layer but dont expect some extraordinary protection.

With the Sierra Glow, u wont need to polish or wax for 5 years or so they claim. But for periodic maintenance, u must use the clay bar (which is simple enough). Normal washing is recommended. Avoid going to car washes as they use strong detergents and cloths in bad condition which may damage the paint surface.

But for only RM700 and a 5 year warranty, i would say its worth a try. Even if it lasts 2 years ill be happy. But Mr Choong is a very friendly person and quite accomodating. Give it a try. U wont regret.
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Yes agreed. My silver forte still looks smashing new every time I wash it. And it stills beads water after such a long time.
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Wow, very good reviews here. Good price some more. I went to GZox glass coating & they quote me RM2200 for the cheapest variant. Blardy expensive. SG is also considered as glass coating, right?
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QUOTE(azfamy @ May 8 2012, 09:00 PM)
Wow, very good reviews here. Good price some more. I went to GZox glass coating & they quote me RM2200 for the cheapest variant. Blardy expensive. SG is also considered as glass coating, right?
Yes its a combination of silika and quartz coating. For RM700 and a 5 yr warranty, i wont complain. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 8 2012, 02:05 PM)
But for only RM700 and a 5 year warranty, i would say its worth a try. Even if it lasts 2 years ill be happy. But Mr Choong is a very friendly person and quite accomodating. Give it a try. U wont regret.
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That is my thought also. I did SierraGlow also, more than happy if it can last me 3 years for RM700. I got more than my money back.
I am the lazy type, i wash once a week with soap. 45 minutes tops. If it gets too dirty before i have time to wash it, i just rinse the car with water and it is almost look spanking new. Very good for a 5 minute job, just rinsing with water. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(azfamy @ May 8 2012, 09:00 PM)
Wow, very good reviews here. Good price some more. I went to GZox glass coating & they quote me RM2200 for the cheapest variant. Blardy expensive. SG is also considered as glass coating, right?
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RM2200??

I can repaint the car with the price after few years. Rather spend for regular wax & polish.
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^Yeah, so I didn't go for it. Went for Sierra Glow instead, about a month ago. Very satisfied with the outcome. The boss, Mr Choong, is also very nice and friendly. Plan to SG coat my other car as well soon, after repainting.
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Any call number for Mr Choong from SG?
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QUOTE(RahXeph0n @ Dec 15 2010, 01:38 AM)
From what I gather (read many pages of forum threads and articles LOL), they will touch up portions for you if needed but it is not covered under warranty.

Anyway, my main concern is, I have not much time to wash my car. I can afford 20 mins to rinse and dry my car every few days though. If Sierra Glow can keep my car in a condition where the majority of it is easy to clean for a year or more, I'll be more than happy to spend that few hundred already. By the way, I rarely get caught in jams and city traffic happy.gif Parking can be scary sometimes though. Some people just don't use brains when they open their doors.
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I know a car which did SG.... he loves it... just water the car and dry it. So easy.

But when I saw his car... its full of swirl marks.... just like any car which have been regularly washed at the roadside RM6 washers.

I took my car for proper detailing... and wash it myself from then on... 1 yr down the road.. no swirl marks.


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RM2200??

I can repaint the car with the price after few years. Rather spend for regular wax & polish.
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A regular run the mill sedan... maybe.

Anyway, RM2~2.5k is standard for those glass/diamond coat. A mate bought a pre-owned carrera and the authorised dealer throw in the coat...

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Any comments from someone who has used this for more than a year? Any good feedback?
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All i can say good stuff

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my SG is 11 months old, still looking good, worth the money spend.
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Mine is 15 months now..still looking good..
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I thought it should be good and MUST be good since you all have warranty up to 5 years..if anything not good can simply go to get your warranty..hehe
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QUOTE(kompressor @ Jul 13 2012, 02:35 PM)
Mine is 15 months now..still looking good..
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wau...nice to know ur car 15 months still looking good...mines already quite bad condition..can see the unbalance paint....wonder mr choong can redo my car....hehe..
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SG was a wonderful product. After 2 years my car still look shinny after wash. Evn though the water slips away easily. Not to say i am over exaggerrated. Maybe my 4th year i will redetail again. Or i do hope Mr. Chong can provide touch up package for second time customer...
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I agree with the reviews as well, after 1.5 years the SG effect is still there. Water beading after a normal wash. I plan to send my other cars to get it coated there as well!
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 8 2012, 02:05 PM)
I did the SG on my new Optima 2 weeks ago. SG is meant to protect the paint from oxydisation not damage. Its 5 year warranty covers the paint quality. SG is not meant to protect against physical scratches or damage from flying stones on highways. It does provide a certain degree of protection as it covers the original paint with another layer but dont expect some extraordinary protection.

With the Sierra Glow, u wont need to polish or wax for 5 years or so they claim. But for periodic maintenance, u must use the clay bar (which is simple enough). Normal washing is recommended. Avoid going to car washes as they use strong detergents and cloths in bad condition which may damage the paint surface.

But for only RM700 and a 5 year warranty, i would say its worth a try. Even if it lasts 2 years ill be happy. But Mr Choong is a very friendly person and quite accomodating. Give it a try. U wont regret.
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Hi there,

I would be really appreciate if you could answer some of my doubt here...

I just done my sierra glow last two months ago, and recently after washing my car, i can see a lot of water spot on my car which i try to wipe it off, but it is just hard to get it off, i m wondering what DIY treatment that i can do to get it off, i saw some comments from web saying using white vinegar, i wonder can i use it? Will is fade away my sierra glow treatment? or any other treatment that is recomended?


Thank you in advance!
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have been coated by SG for few months, so far still satisfy, highly recommend.
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QUOTE(chris_tco @ Nov 14 2012, 09:39 PM)
have been coated by SG for few months, so far still satisfy, highly recommend.
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Hi there,

Just got my new car 2 months back, and recently found out after washing my car, got a lot of water spot which hard to wipe it off, can please tell me what to get it off, and even after doing sierra glow, is it okay to use it?
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other that SG....

is there any other brand?
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Actually, of all the fabulous comments about SG.... there is one bad comment I heard...but this lazy bum never know how to clean his car....he never dry his car until all the water spot were impossible to remove...especially at the bonnet area

So if you wanna add a coat of SG, or whatever product, and just leave the car without taking care of it....even the best coats will not give you the best protection..
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QUOTE(azbro @ Nov 14 2012, 09:59 PM)
Actually, of all the fabulous comments about SG.... there is one bad comment I heard...but this lazy bum never know how to clean his car....he never dry his car until all the water spot were impossible to remove...especially at the bonnet area

So if you wanna add a coat of SG, or whatever product, and just leave the car without taking care of it....even the best coats will not give you the best protection..
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If u dont have any good suggestion on how to get rid of the water spot, why dont u just keep quiet!! shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(stepling88 @ Nov 14 2012, 10:25 PM)
Hi there,

I would be really appreciate if you could answer some of my doubt here...

I just done my sierra glow last two months ago, and recently after washing my car, i can see a lot of water spot on my car which i try to wipe it off, but it is just hard to get it off, i m wondering what DIY treatment that i can do to get it off, i saw some comments from web saying using white vinegar, i wonder can i use it? Will is fade away my sierra glow treatment? or any other treatment that is recomended?
Thank you in advance!
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If you done Sierra Glow, why not just drop by Mr Choong place and see what wrong and get his advise as he is the expert on Sierra Glow. Maybe it can be ratify on the spot and then no more headache unless you have DIY something else......
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I use clay bar and ipo(pure alcohol) to get rid of water mark. It works but very time consuming. U nid to wash car, clay bar, wipe clean and then wipe with alchohol...easily 3hours.

I wash frequently and yet water mark still unavoidable. I do found out that after clay bar treatment, paint surface is more sticky and tend to get dirty faster
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mean after SG

we need this clay bar to brush/wipe our car?
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The only way to reduce watermarks is so keep your car dry at all times. As rain water is acidic, it will rapidly etch into the surface if it is not wiped off. It also contains mineral deposits that trap itself into the paint in those microscopic pits, which is why you see marks on your paintwork.

The only way is preventive maintenance, or a polish to remove it. Given that we live in a country with lots of smog, pollution and constant rain watermarks are highly inevitable.
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After applied SG, we r advice not to polish or wax our car. This will remove SG coat. The only way to maintain the car is to use clay bar. But u don have to do it every time after car wash. Maybe once a month depending on your available free time. As for using of alchohol, it is recommended to do it as often as possible. So, its up to individual to decide the frequency of claybar washing and alchohol usage. For me, I noticed that after clay bar, car paint is more shining and looks like showroom condition. Downside is, it attracts dirts very fast.....
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QUOTE(Termibait @ Nov 15 2012, 10:01 AM)
After applied SG, we r advice not to polish or wax our car. This will remove SG coat. The only way to maintain the car is to use clay bar. But u don have to do it every time after car wash. Maybe once a month depending on your available free time. As for using of alchohol, it is recommended to do it as often as possible. So, its up to individual to decide the frequency of claybar washing and alchohol usage. For me, I noticed that after clay bar, car paint is more shining and looks like showroom condition. Downside is, it attracts dirts very fast.....
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Did you get the PG claybar? Did you use it with water only with claying? I got a hard time 'wetting' the car panels as the water drips down very fast.
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Ive used SG for 6 months now. The shine seems to be a bit less than before. Paint surface is also not smooth anymore as compared to when u do a new coat of polish. I clay bar the car about once a month. Is this normal? Any of you experiencing the same?


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QUOTE(stepling88 @ Nov 14 2012, 09:25 PM)
Hi there,

I would be really appreciate if you could answer some of my doubt here...

I just done my sierra glow last two months ago, and recently after washing my car, i can see a lot of water spot on my car which i try to wipe it off, but it is just hard to get it off, i m wondering what DIY treatment that i can do to get it off, i saw some comments from web saying using white vinegar, i wonder can i use it? Will is fade away my sierra glow treatment? or any other treatment that is recomended?
Thank you in advance!
Did the water spots appear only now or was it there before?

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Who has Mr Chong's number? Mind sharing. I plan to go and get my car coated on next Saturday. Wonder if the shop opens on Saturday.
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After 8 months my red roc is still shiny as hell. Yes there are watermarks but alcohol wipes make them go away pretty easily. I find that a quick rinse daily keeps the car very clean but u really need to have that kind of dedication.

My silver forte which is 2.5 years also still looks smashing! Just need to touch up the boot area coz its exposed to rain and shine everyday (boot part is not covered by porch) so the beading of water isn't there anymore.
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QUOTE(Termibait @ Nov 15 2012, 10:01 AM)
After applied SG, we r advice not to polish or wax our car. This will remove SG coat. The only way to maintain the car is to use clay bar. But u don have to do it every time after car wash. Maybe once a month depending on your available free time. As for using of alchohol, it is recommended to do it as often as possible. So, its up to individual to decide the frequency of claybar washing and alchohol usage. For me, I noticed that after clay bar, car paint is more shining and looks like showroom condition. Downside is, it attracts dirts very fast.....
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Exactly. But realise that on the surface level, the etching is physically on the coat - no matter how much you clean the watermarks, eventually it will come back. Same like dirt in a hairline scratch. There's nothing you can do to level the etching unless a light polish is done.
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QUOTE(Termibait @ Nov 14 2012, 11:30 PM)
I use clay bar and ipo(pure alcohol) to get rid of water mark. It works but very time consuming. U nid to wash car, clay bar, wipe clean and then wipe with alchohol...easily 3hours.

I wash frequently and yet water mark still unavoidable. I do found out that after clay bar treatment, paint surface is more sticky and tend to get dirty faster
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Added on November 15, 2012, 4:20 pm
QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Nov 15 2012, 01:05 AM)
The only way to reduce watermarks is so keep your car dry at all times. As rain water is acidic, it will rapidly etch into the surface if it is not wiped off. It also contains mineral deposits that trap itself into the paint in those microscopic pits, which is why you see marks on your paintwork.

The only way is preventive maintenance, or a polish to remove it. Given that we live in a country with lots of smog, pollution and constant rain watermarks are highly inevitable.
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How to avoid being caught by rain and keep it dry every time... i think a bit hard for city life and working ppl like us and some more malaysia weather rain so often, i tot after doing sierra glow, i dont need to wash and wipe car that often, but turn out still i need to maintain it every time after rain..... cry.gif


Added on November 15, 2012, 4:24 pm
QUOTE(Termibait @ Nov 15 2012, 10:01 AM)
After applied SG, we r advice not to polish or wax our car. This will remove SG coat. The only way to maintain the car is to use clay bar. But u don have to do it every time after car wash. Maybe once a month depending on your available free time. As for using of alchohol, it is recommended to do it as often as possible. So, its up to individual to decide the frequency of claybar washing and alchohol usage. For me, I noticed that after clay bar, car paint is more shining and looks like showroom condition. Downside is, it attracts dirts very fast.....
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Thanks for the advice! smile.gif


Added on November 15, 2012, 4:29 pm
QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 15 2012, 11:48 AM)
Ive used SG for 6 months now. The shine seems to be a bit less than before. Paint surface is also not smooth anymore as compared to when u do a new coat of polish. I clay bar the car about once a month. Is this normal? Any of you experiencing the same?


Added on November 15, 2012, 11:52 am

Did the water spots appear only now or was it there before?
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No..it came out recently just after doing SG for 2 months, and turn out quite obvious, when u walk near by the car, u can see it clearly!

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Hi guys. How long does it take to fully coat a brand new car in Sierra glow?
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Hi guys. How long does it take to fully coat a brand new car in Sierra glow?
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Mine took about half a day.
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Hi there,

Just got my new car 2 months back, and recently found out after washing my car, got a lot of water spot which hard to wipe it off,  can please tell me what to get it off, and even after doing sierra glow, is it okay to use it?
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why dun u call to Mr Chong? since you got 5 years warranty.
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If you are wondering how good SGlow is...he offers lifetime warranty last time, when he just started..that how it is.... still remember i called him 3 years ago...and he is honest, and trustworthy guy, he told me over the phone- no need to maintain, just wash consistently -no need to buy anything extra from him, no need special care..no need..no need...and emphasized preferably you clay from time to time...thats all..i recommended a fren - after 3 years - he said no complain - still there!! probably not as 'thick' when just done, but still good enough - recommended countless of frens over the years, but myself never did it...reason: my paint quality too bad - he wont accept my car!! shit....
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My car is 1 year plus..suitable for this SG?
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QUOTE(chris_tco @ Nov 15 2012, 10:24 PM)
why dun u call to Mr Chong? since you got 5 years warranty.
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I remember Mr.Choong said the warranty for 5 years can be claim unless your car colour change to yellowish, so that mean this does not included! sad.gif


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I remember Mr.Choong said the warranty for 5 years can be claim unless your car colour change to yellowish, so that mean this does not included! sad.gif
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Cos my car is White color, so how about other car which is not white color?? Now i can see the car not shine like b4 after SG,(only 2 months) sad.gif sad.gif cos the water spot can see clearly if u walk near it!!

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Yes, they recommend washing using the 2 bucket method, especially within 24hours if there's stuff like bird droppings, and need to visit once a year for inspection, which is not too bad (http://sierraglow.com/after.htm). Nothing about claying, unless you mean I will still need to do that myself, which I guess I probably will not. ONR looks interesting, I'll take that into consideration. Where can I purchase bottles of ONR? Still leaning towards glowing the car though, as the hydrophobic layer is supposed to last about 1 year, and shine for 5 years >.< I'll wager it's an exageration, so I'm still looking for long term user reviews.
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Sierra Glow (M) Sdn. Bhd. would like express our gratitude for all customers support.Almost all of our business comes from people like you telling your friends.

We want to say "thank you" for believing in us and our Sierra Glow.
To make our services more convenient we wanted to announce that starting on December 2nd, we will be open on Sunday! Our new schedule means you or your friends can choose any day to make a booking for our Sierra Glow application. We ask you to spread the word...Thanks! You can contact me at 016 217 0312 / 016 345 2913. Thank again,. Choong
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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
Sierra Glow (M) Sdn. Bhd. would like express our gratitude for all customers support.Almost all of our business comes from people like you telling your friends. 

We want to say "thank you" for believing in us and our Sierra Glow.
To make our services more convenient we wanted to announce that starting on December 2nd, we will be open on Sunday!  Our new schedule means you or your friends can choose any day to make a booking for our Sierra Glow application.  We ask you to spread the word...Thanks!  You can contact me at 016 217 0312 / 016 345 2913. Thank again,. Choong
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so if the SG effect thin out within 5 years im entitled for warranty? as in reapply the SG? im interested in this product definitely!
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so if the SG effect thin out within 5 years im entitled for warranty? as in reapply the SG? im interested in this product definitely!
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If still under warranty, shouldn't be an issue. Best to check with Choong.
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Does anyone know if we need to purchase other package to clean off car windows water marks beside the paint coating package??

My car window is full of watermarks also. Thanks.
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Does anyone know if we need to purchase other package to clean off car windows water marks beside the paint coating package??

My car window is full of watermarks also. Thanks.
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just saw the different of SG...

user posted image

quite impressive
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QUOTE(valence @ Nov 28 2012, 11:23 AM)
just saw the different of SG...

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quite impressive
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the drive-through car wash also able to do this to my 10 year old paint.
he only asked for rm90 for it
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QUOTE(motomeiji @ Nov 28 2012, 11:25 AM)
the drive-through car wash also able to do this to my 10 year old paint.
he only asked for rm90 for it
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try wiping off with IPA and see what the drive-through car wash did.
then only can have proof.
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so if the SG effect thin out within 5 years im entitled for warranty? as in reapply the SG? im interested in this product definitely!
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I would like to know as well. The warranty covers touch ups? Also, does it cover the windscreen?

Also, have you guys heard of or did Aquly coating? It's from Japan... how does SG fair against Aquly?

Thanks in advance!

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Did SG in May 2012, after 8 months of use car still looks waxed after simple wash and dirt comes off easily. Beading is slightly less but still there when wet. Just went for touch up today bcos had minor accident recently and Mr Choong was very professional and did the touch up for me without any charges. Overall very satisfied customer , car still looked brand new and would def recommend SG to anyone. smile.gif
Saw many white car owners today at SG, mine included.
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After 1 year, my car body feels gritty to the touch. Very not smooth at all. I wasnt happy about this so I text Mr.Choong and told him. His reply is that this is normal and I need to shampoo it and do clay bar.

Before doing SierraGlow I was told just wash with plain water, now they want me to do claying?

I wont send another car there thats for sure
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kinda agree bro, simple wash and care is the reason people sending car there
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QUOTE(DigitalKL @ Jan 4 2013, 10:47 AM)
After 1 year, my car body feels gritty to the touch. Very not smooth at all. I wasnt happy about this so I text Mr.Choong and told him. His reply is that this is normal and I need to shampoo it and do clay bar.

Before doing SierraGlow I was told just wash with plain water, now they want me to do claying?

I wont send another car there thats for sure
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it may or may not be sierraglow's fault. you really need to read up and understand detailing before you start shooting faults/blames smile.gif
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what is there to understand?
i wash my car once a week at a detailer nearby my place
always park under shade.
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QUOTE(valence @ Nov 28 2012, 11:23 AM)
just saw the different of SG...

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quite impressive
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erm, is this the long term comparison between applied SG on one side and the other side without SG

or

They have just polish the other side and the other side not polish yet? The other side look dull because of all the scratches. Try asking them to polish all surface and apply SG on 1 side and compare. I dont think there will be much diff unlike that picture. kinda cheating if you ask me.


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what is there to understand?
i wash my car once a week at a detailer nearby my place
always park under shade.
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try washing ur car everyday so you won't get any gritty feeling.

but it comes with free swirl scratches. laugh.gif


gritty feeling is unavoidable lar. Dust + rain + more dust + sunlight. It's like cement formula liao. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(DigitalKL @ Jan 4 2013, 11:32 AM)
what is there to understand?
i wash my car once a week at a detailer nearby my place
always park under shade.
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if you want to be ignorant on the issue there is no helping it then smile.gif

if you'd like to know anyways:
- washing with improper method will damage paint/coating in the long run
- parking under shade means nothing if you drive your car a lot. unless you're gonna tell me that car is a showroom car and never drives outside.
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QUOTE(rhaizo @ Dec 15 2010, 09:50 AM)
Sorry cant remember from where I read about they clay. But I somehow remember reading from somewhere that u still need to use clay type 1 to remove tar spots. However this is very seldom maybe 1-2 times a year.

You can get ONR from KC's frm lowyat.net, read his blog http://thedetailers.blogspot.com.

I've used ONR for quick detailing and wash. For a newbie like me I can say that its a good way to wash ur car since u dont use much water therefore saving the mama earth. You should get alot of microfibers for this else ull end up inducing swirl marks which can be really irritating. Can get some from bro MSK frm lowyat.net.

I wonder if you've done the sierra glow can u go the sideroad car wash? from what ive observe, the roadside car wash not using proper towel which in the end ur car will have alottttt of swirl marks.
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U should try the opti-seal sealent from KC. these stuff are great. 15 to 20 min i could have wax/polish the whole car liao. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 4 2013, 11:43 AM)
if you want to be ignorant on the issue there is no helping it then smile.gif

if you'd like to know anyways:
- washing with improper method will damage paint/coating in the long run
- parking under shade means nothing if you drive your car a lot. unless you're gonna tell me that car is a showroom car and never drives outside.
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I dont want to be ignorant hence my question
But if you are asking a lay person to know about detailing etc in order to keep this Sierra Glow job looking like day one, I think then better dont spend money on this.
Its suppose to be easy to maintain.

Anyway I am not looking for a solution from Mr.Choong. I just want to warn others. If they want to try it out, go ahead and give it a try.



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QUOTE(DigitalKL @ Jan 4 2013, 11:56 AM)
I dont want to be ignorant hence my question
But if you are asking a lay person to know about detailing etc in order to keep this Sierra Glow job looking like day one, I think then better dont spend money on this.
Its suppose to be easy to maintain.

Anyway I am not looking for a solution from Mr.Choong. I just want to warn others. If they want to try it out, go ahead and give it a try.
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whoever is applying SG should be informing to you instead then.

in any form of car detailing, maintenance is always the hardest step. same applies to SG or even optimum/ONR products that is rather famous in LYN. at you still need to spend at least 30mins every week to do car wash/quick detailing (be it spray-ons and what not)

blatant claims on "easy to maintain" without proper understanding given is just bullshit in my book smile.gif
however from your attitude of warning, and the whole "i dont want to listen/understand/solution, only want to 'warn others' " is just in bad taste imo
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eh those blatant claims are from sierra glow themselves lor....

and you talk as if I abused my car. you also assumed that I do not know anything about detailing.

i didnt say I do not want to listen or understand. I only said I do not need a solution from Mr.Choong which means if he offers to redo my car, I have to think twice. No point spending my whole day there if after a year, this happens again.

understand?


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has the rain spot issue been solved? Is it a common problem among the SG users to have watermark? Cause my friend use PPH solution and dont have this issue
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QUOTE(DigitalKL @ Jan 4 2013, 12:11 PM)
eh those blatant claims are from sierra glow themselves lor....

and you talk as if I abused my car. you also assumed that I do not know anything about detailing.

i didnt say I do not want to listen or understand. I only said I do not need a solution from Mr.Choong which means if he offers to redo my car, I have to think twice. No point spending my whole day there if after a year, this happens again.

understand?
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all of my friends that went for the SG coating were told to wash with water and to use a claybar if there are bonded contaminants on the surface. I wonder how you were not aware of this info?

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all of my friends that went for the SG coating were told to wash with water and to use a claybar if there are bonded contaminants on the surface. I wonder how you were not aware of this info?
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I did Sg in early August. Yes, I was told to do clay bar and ipa to wipe off water mark and bonded contaminants...but it increases more scratches and it is not easy to wash anymore. Over time, the coating is disappearing....

The more u wash, the fast the coating disappear and more scratches. Mind you, I use double bucket system. Still can c scratches here and there. Damn frustrated and feel wasting money on SG.


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QUOTE(Termibait @ Feb 28 2013, 07:17 PM)
I did Sg in early August. Yes, I was told to do clay bar and ipa to wipe off water mark and bonded contaminants...but it increases more scratches and it is not easy to wash anymore. Over time, the coating is disappearing....

The more u wash, the fast the coating disappear and more scratches. Mind you, I use double bucket system. Still can c scratches here and there. Damn frustrated and feel wasting money on SG.
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That is odd, mine have been a year plus, i can still see SG on it when i wash. Water beads and everything. No scratches. Thought i will need to revisit Mr. Choong again, when i get my car back. Got rear ended recently, and have to replace the bumper. So that part will need to be recoat and also do some inspection or touch up.

I don't even clay....

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i've had sg on my car and its been 3 yrs +....its money well spent....beading still visible (altho not as acute as in the 1st year) and the glow is still visible after each wash.....i washed the car on my own the 1st year but due to work commitments and time constraints....the car has been given the roadside or petrol station wash treatment ever since.......many a times i've had the car wash guys asking if i want a wax job after the wash...i will decline politely each time and after the wash they will comment saying that the car must have been recently waxed and i'll just smile

btw...my ride is white in colour
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QUOTE(Termibait @ Feb 28 2013, 07:17 PM)
I did Sg in early August. Yes, I was told to do clay bar and ipa to wipe off water mark and bonded contaminants...but it increases more scratches and it is not easy to wash anymore. Over time, the coating is disappearing....

The more u wash, the fast the coating disappear and more scratches. Mind you, I use double bucket system. Still can c scratches here and there. Damn frustrated and feel wasting money on SG.
The problem with most ppl is that they dont realise a few things about maintaining a car that has a coating:

1) You should not wash the car on your own unless you have the correct cloths. You cant use normal soft cloths as even this will scratch. The right cloth to use for the body is actually a type of skin cloth. This cloth isnt cheap and costs about RM80 per piece. Most of the professional car washes have this. Thats why its always advised that you should send your car to those car washes instead of the roadside ones or doing it yorself. You can get yorself/yor friends enrolled on 1 of those membership programs and you'll enjoy cheaper washes for a few years. In Feb 2012, I recommended a friend to do his polishing/coating at Pit Stop TTDI and since then i get my K5 washed and vacummed for only RM8 (normal price RM20). This offer is valid until Feb 2015 which i think is a good deal. Look for such deals and ull might just find one.

2) Cars with coatings should always be wiped dry after a rain. The water must never be left on the surface overnight or else you will get watermarks. But if you use that normal cloth, then ure gonna scratch the surface. So might be worth investing in the correct cloth which any professional car care centre can order for you. You cant get this type of cloth at the hardware shop so dont bother trying. All those cloths supposedly suitable for cars are in fact not suitable. If your car gets wet after a rain and you have no means to actually wipe down the car, at least hose off the car so that the acidic rain water is not left on the car surface as this eats into the paint and causes the water marks.

So before you blame the coating, first ask yourself if you have maintained the coating in the correct way. Thats why you should always think twice before spending money on doing a coating. If you feel you cannot spend the money and effort to maintain the coating then you might as well not do the coating and just do the periodic polish and wax instead.

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 1 2013, 08:36 AM)
The problem with most ppl is that they dont realise a few things about maintaining a car that has a coating:

1) You should not wash the car on your own unless you have the correct cloths. You cant use normal soft cloths as even this will scratch. The right cloth to use for the body is actually a type of skin cloth. This cloth isnt cheap and costs about RM80 per piece. Most of the professional car washes have this. Thats why its always advised that you should send your car to those car washes instead of the roadside ones or doing it yorself. You can get yorself/yor friends enrolled on 1 of those membership programs and you'll enjoy cheaper washes for a few years. In Feb 2012, I recommended a friend to do his polishing/coating at Pit Stop TTDI and since then i get my K5 washed and vacummed for only RM8 (normal price RM20). This offer is valid until Feb 2015 which i think is a good deal. Look for such deals and ull might just find one.

2) Cars with coatings should always be wiped dry after a rain. The water must never be left on the surface overnight or else you will get watermarks. But if you use that normal cloth, then ure gonna scratch the surface. So might be worth investing in the correct cloth which any professional car care centre can order for you. You cant get this type of cloth at the hardware shop so dont bother trying. All those cloths supposedly suitable for cars are in fact not suitable. If your car gets wet after a rain and you have no means to actually wipe down the car, at least hose off the car so that the acidic rain water is not left on the car surface as this eats into the paint and causes the water marks.

So before you blame the coating, first ask yourself if you have maintained the coating in the correct way. Thats why you should always think twice before spending money on doing a coating. If you feel you cannot spend the money and effort to maintain the coating then you might as well not do the coating and just do the periodic polish and wax instead.
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How on earth did u know I didn't invest in the right cloth? And how many car wash centre in Malaysia is using the correct cloth? I have seen many using worn cloth,single bucket system and one cloth for many cars.....that is why I don't trust those cash wash centre.

And how many would exactly wash car after rain Irvine malaysia's weather. U know I know. That is mr choong recommended once a week intervals. Speaking of that, I find that some ppl just love to shoot at people and giving unrealistic advice...

I still see water beading. Just that it is not as good as before and disappointed because it is just few months. Also, water mark is difficult to remove even with frequent wash and clay. When u don't clay, water mark and foreign contaminant is not easily removed with just normal wash.

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QUOTE(Termibait @ Mar 1 2013, 08:47 AM)
How on earth did u know I didn't invest in the right cloth? And how many car wash centre in Malaysia is using the correct cloth? I have seen many using worn cloth,single bucket system and one cloth for many cars.....that is why I don't trust those cash wash centre.

And how many would exactly wash car after rain Irvine malaysia's weather. U know I know. That is mr choong recommended once a week intervals. Speaking of that, I find that some ppl just love to shoot at people and giving unrealistic advice...

I still see water beading. Just that it is not as good as before and disappointed because it is just few months. Also, water mark is difficult to remove even with frequent wash and clay. When u don't clay, water mark and foreign contaminant is not easily removed with just normal wash.
My post was a general post. Just because your earlier post was quoted doesnt always mean i was refering to YOU. If u read my earlier statement, you'll see that i mentioned PROFESSIONAL CAR WASH CENTRES. Not all car wash centres are professional and i didnt assume as such. Slightly worn cloth is fine as long as the material of the cloth is correct. You cant possibly expect the car wash centre to replace cloths every week do you? Professional car washes also do not use any form of bucket system. So if your car wash centre uses them then its clearly not PROFESSIONAL. I also didnt ask you to WASH your car after the rain. I said WIPE IT DRY. Washing and wiping a car are 2 totally different things.

Speaking of that, I find that some ppl just love to shoot at people without reading carefully first. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Termibait @ Feb 28 2013, 07:17 PM)
I did Sg in early August. Yes, I was told to do clay bar and ipa to wipe off water mark and bonded contaminants...but it increases more scratches and it is not easy to wash anymore. Over time, the coating is disappearing....

The more u wash, the fast the coating disappear and more scratches. Mind you, I use double bucket system. Still can c scratches here and there. Damn frustrated and feel wasting money on SG.
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AFAIK there is still warranty on the coating they'll help you to touchup if the coat wear off but i think hardly can see though our naked eye the coat went off
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QUOTE(Termibait @ Mar 1 2013, 08:47 AM)
How on earth did u know I didn't invest in the right cloth? And how many car wash centre in Malaysia is using the correct cloth? I have seen many using worn cloth,single bucket system and one cloth for many cars.....that is why I don't trust those cash wash centre.

And how many would exactly wash car after rain Irvine malaysia's weather. U know I know. That is mr choong recommended once a week intervals. Speaking of that, I find that some ppl just love to shoot at people and giving unrealistic advice...

I still see water beading. Just that it is not as good as before and disappointed because it is just few months. Also, water mark is difficult to remove even with frequent wash and clay. When u don't clay, water mark and foreign contaminant is not easily removed with just normal wash.
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i understand you bro, you take care of your car nicely and then shits still happen after all those claim.

anyway for me, i need good protection from scratches/swirl marks and to be simple to take care, even it doesnt cost a lot, i consider it a waste of time.

if it still more or less the same with and without coating, then i am not interested and prefer to wash and detail my car twice or more a week.
i guess thats why meiguars, permanon or such is still able to survive in the stiff competition.


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My post was a general post. Just because your earlier post was quoted doesnt always mean i was refering to YOU. If u read my earlier statement, you'll see that i mentioned PROFESSIONAL CAR WASH CENTRES. Not all car wash centres are professional and i didnt assume as such. Slightly worn cloth is fine as long as the material of the cloth is correct. You cant possibly expect the car wash centre to replace cloths every week do you? Professional car washes also do not use any form of bucket system. So if your car wash centre uses them then its clearly not PROFESSIONAL. I also didnt ask you to WASH your car after the rain. I said WIPE IT DRY. Washing and wiping a car are 2 totally different things.

Speaking of that, I find that some ppl just love to shoot at people without reading carefully first.  biggrin.gif
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i always wipe after rain oso, really sad that my place rain almost everyday. even with that passion, there are still watermarks on my roof sad.gif
read somewhere online, that our weather, acid rain are the main culprit, and it is almost impossible to prevent. sweat.gif
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Wiping off after rain is even worse as dirts are already on the paint surface. U will create more scratches....
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I use clay bar and ipo(pure alcohol) to get rid of water mark. It works but very time consuming. U nid to wash car, clay bar, wipe clean and then wipe with alchohol...easily 3hours.

I wash frequently and yet water mark still unavoidable. I do found out that after clay bar treatment, paint surface is more sticky and tend to get dirty faster
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Hi Termibait, Wowwww! Sorry to learn that after you have clay bar your car and become sticky and get dirty faster. Glad if you can contact me to arrange a date so that I can rectify the problem for you. Be glad if you can let me know more detail when you are using the clay bar.
1. IPA need to be diluted to a ratio of 1:1 with water, it cannot be use concentrated.
2. What normally use when using a clay bar? Water or shampoo?
3. How much pressure do you use when claying?
4. What sort of dirt are you referring to, that your car get dirty faster?
5. Did the car surface condition smoother after clay bar?
Thank you. Hope to hear from you.
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Im satisfied with SG... Doing the coating on september 2009..still shine.wash using ONR..
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I m not satisfied with SG, doing on sep last year, now the colour look dull, totally not shine at all, and some more got a lot of water mark!! Really waste of money, Should be easy to maintain with just rinsing with water, rite? That what i heard and see a lot of comment form here, and went to do it, now turn out i still have to do clay bar, now even i use clay bar, the water mark just hard to get off!! cry.gif
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QUOTE(sierraglow @ Mar 1 2013, 09:11 PM)
Hi Termibait, Wowwww! Sorry to learn that after you have clay bar your car and become sticky and get dirty faster. Glad if you can contact me to arrange a date so that I can rectify the problem for you. Be glad if you can let me know more detail when you are using the clay bar.
1. IPA need to be diluted to a ratio of 1:1 with water, it cannot be use concentrated.
2. What normally use when using a clay bar? Water or shampoo?
3. How much pressure do you use when claying?
4. What sort of dirt are you referring to, that your car get dirty faster?
5. Did the car surface condition smoother after clay bar?
Thank you. Hope to hear from you.
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Mr choong, thank you for your concern on this.

To answer your question.
1. I was not told that ipa has to be diluted with water when I got it from you.
2. You did not say use shampoo to clay bar too.(when you demonstrate, u say just wet the surface.
3. It's very light pressure unless water mark/stain is too visible.
4. Dust accumulated on paint surface.
5. It's smooth as I have been washing car almost 1-2 times a week.

I appreciate if could have a look at the car somewhere this week. Pm me your available date and time. I will make a trip to your shop.

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Mr choong, thank you for your concern on this.

To answer your question.
1. I was not told that ipa has to be diluted with water when I got it from you.
2. You did not say use shampoo to clay bar too.(when you demonstrate, u say just wet the surface.
3. It's very light pressure unless water mark/stain is too visible.
4. Dust accumulated on paint surface.
5. It's smooth as I have been washing car almost 1-2 times a week.

I appreciate if could have a look at the car somewhere this week. Pm me your available date and time. I will make a trip to your shop.

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Hi Termibait,
1.The IPA from me has been diluted.
2. I may not inform you to use shampoo but during the demo session the surface condition is different. Depend on the surface and what solution to apply. But nevertheless they will be instruction on the packaging how to use the clay bar when you purchase it.
3. No pressure is require when using a clay bar. Unless you may have a problem situation, then a different way need to be use. I may have not advice you various problem from A to Z in detail. I only advise on normal problem. Otherwise I need to organise a 3 days workshop for all this. But I always info owner's to contact me if they encounter any situation which unable to solve.
4. Sierra Glow is not for keeping dust away. But help washing easy. Sierra Glow coating is to protect our paint from oxidation. In simple, after wash your car will remain shine and not change colour. We warranty 5 years the coating will remain on the surface from oxidation. However, direct or indirect damage and stains will not be warranty.

You may bring in your car on 4th, 7th or 8th Mar. Please contact me @ 016 2170312 / 016 3452913.

Thank you. Cheers..

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QUOTE(stepling88 @ Mar 3 2013, 01:23 PM)
I m not satisfied with SG, doing on sep last year, now the colour look dull, totally not shine at all, and some more got a lot of water mark!! Really waste of money, Should be easy to maintain with just rinsing with water, rite? That what i heard and see a lot of comment form here, and went to do it, now turn out i still have to do clay bar, now even i use clay bar, the water mark just hard to get off!!  cry.gif
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Hi stepling88,
The condition sound to be very serious. I will be happy if you will to arrange an appointment to bring in your car and I will rectify the matter for you. Appreciate if you can upload photos of your car at different angle. We have exhaust fume, industrial pollution, acidic rain, road tar and your daily driving condition. All this will contribute dirt to stick on to the surface. Those days nobody hear of clay bar. No car wash center or detailing shop ever advise their customer to use. Otherwise they will not have business if they let you know. Every household has a screwdriver, right? Every car owner's must have a clay bar to clean their car. Or else we need to send our car to car wash detailing shop. We educate our customer to use clay bar so that it will be economical for owner's to DIY them self rather to send car wash center to do the job. Water marks or stain does not develop overnight. We have to prevent rather than to cure when happens. Water marks develop on the car surface is due to crystallisation of pollution dirt which accumulated over a period, 3 days, 1 week, 10 days, 2 weeks and so on.

Please contact me at 016 2170312 or 016 3452913 to bring in your car. I be most sincere to rectify the matter for you. Thank you for your support.
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has the rain spot issue been solved? Is it a common problem among the SG users to have watermark? Cause my friend use PPH solution and dont have this issue
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Hi hellfire8888, Sorry I think you may have phrase the sentence in correct. 1. Any type of coating will still have stain or water marks crystallise on the surface if owner's do not take precautionary measure to maintain their car. The theory is, if your car surface is clean. The chances of contamination of pollution and dirt will be minimise. 2. If you observe older cars front windshield, why the wiper wipe area has no water marks and the area which the wiper unable to wipe has many water marks visible.

Today I even witness a 6 months Mazda CX 5 that came for Sierra Glow coating, eventually have water marks on the surface too.. Hope our fans will understand more of the function of Glass coating. The main purpose is to protect our original paint from oxidation. Therefore after wash will maintain the shine.

Cheers...
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I thought the point if applying an expensive coating means maintenance is splash with water instead of even more work than normal non coated paint
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QUOTE(sierraglow @ Mar 3 2013, 09:58 PM)
Hi hellfire8888, Sorry I think you may have phrase the sentence in correct. 1. Any type of coating will still have stain or water marks crystallise on the surface if owner's do not take precautionary measure to maintain their car. The theory is, if your car surface is clean. The chances of contamination of pollution and dirt will be minimise. 2. If you observe older cars front windshield, why the wiper wipe area has no water marks and the area which the wiper unable to wipe has many water marks visible.

Today I even witness a 6 months Mazda CX 5 that came for Sierra Glow coating, eventually have water marks on the surface too.. Hope our fans will understand more of the function of Glass coating. The main purpose is to protect our original paint from oxidation. Therefore after wash will maintain the shine.

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Isn't the Mazda CX-5 come with Tribos? I'm interested to know more about the combination of Tribos and Sierra Glow.
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I thought the point if applying an expensive coating means maintenance is splash with water instead of even more work than normal non coated paint
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Hi rcracer, Many have misunderstand about Paint Protection Coating. Any in the market many detailing shop mislead car owner's about this. There are many type of this products in the market, mainly there are polymer based. Sierra Glow Glassglow coating is the latest technology from Japan which is inorganic Silica Glass (non solvent) material. This will protect your car paint and a more lasting shine. Of course any damage whether direct or indirect or stains will not be cover. Owner's will still need the responsibility to self maintain their car to utmost clean condition.

Before such coating in the market, why do we send our cars for waxing and polishing? We do not just polish our car for lust. Because the car surface is losing the gloss or change of color. Why is this happening? Oxidation... Each time we wax and polish our car, how long the shine will last? 3 to 4 months? We will repeat the same with waxing and polishing. Each time how much it will cost? One year if we repeat about 3 times, how much it will sum up? Do we notice the swirl marks on the car surface after waxing and polishing? This is cause by abrasive ness of the compound and polishing machine use that cuts into the paint surface and will cause our paint to become thinner... Do we still prefer waxing and polishing?

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[quote=Neo_Y,Mar 3 2013, 11:08 PM]
Isn't the Mazda CX-5 come with Tribos? I'm interested to know more about the combination of Tribos and Sierra Glow.
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No comment to what the CX 5 have done before. But my owner which he has done Sierra Glow coating for his wife Honda Insight about a year ago have notice the big different between our shine and his CX 5. It will be no major problem for us to work on any cars that have other coating before and still bind on well.

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Hi rcracer, Many have misunderstand about Paint Protection Coating. Any in the market many detailing shop mislead car owner's about this. There are many type of this products in the market, mainly there are polymer based. Sierra Glow Glassglow coating is the latest technology from Japan which is inorganic Silica Glass (non solvent) material. This will protect your car paint and a more lasting shine. Of course any damage whether direct or indirect or stains will not be cover. Owner's will still need the responsibility to self maintain their car to utmost clean condition.

Before such coating in the market, why do we send our cars for waxing and polishing? We do not just polish our car for lust. Because the car surface is losing the gloss or change of color. Why is this happening? Oxidation... Each time we wax and polish our car, how long the shine will last? 3 to 4 months? We will repeat the same with waxing and polishing. Each time how much it will cost? One year if we repeat about 3 times, how much it will sum up? Do we notice the swirl marks on the car surface after waxing and polishing? This is cause by abrasive ness of the compound and polishing machine use that cuts into the paint surface and will cause our paint to become thinner... Do we still prefer waxing and polishing?
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But if I need to care for the coating the same as normal no coating, then might as well just care for the original paint.

My idea is if I coat something I expect it to be tougher and less maintenance than no coating. If it doesn't decrease my work then it serves no purpose.

Eg Teflon pans, without coating food sticks and burns and hard to remove, once coated easier to clean and also tough to scratch.


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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 6 2013, 11:38 PM)
But if I need to care for the coating the same as normal no coating, then might as well just care for the original paint.

My idea is if I coat something I expect it to be tougher and less maintenance than no coating. If it doesn't decrease my work then it serves no purpose.

Eg Teflon pans, without coating food sticks and burns and hard to remove, once coated easier to clean and also tough to scratch.
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2 types of people:
1. To help reduce/minimize the washing time or washing frequency.
2. To have shine-shine car, regardless the effort.

So, it depends on your preference. tongue.gif

For me, I want "To help reduce/minimize the washing time or washing frequency." drool.gif

Please continue to share which coat is better, I'm currently doing shopping for coat, there are just too many brands and confused!!

http://malaysiamari.blogspot.com/2013/02/c...coating_17.html
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QUOTE(fongss76 @ Mar 7 2013, 10:01 AM)
2 types of people:
1. To help reduce/minimize the washing time or washing frequency.
2. To have shine-shine car, regardless the effort.

So, it depends on your preference.  tongue.gif

For me, I want "To help reduce/minimize the washing time or washing frequency."  drool.gif

Please continue to share which coat is better, I'm currently doing shopping for coat, there are just too many brands and confused!!

http://malaysiamari.blogspot.com/2013/02/c...coating_17.html
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exactly mine too, for me the coating should be like teflon water easy bead off, dirt easily wash off, thorough cleaning maybe once a month and by thorough i mean the normal car wash with soap and rinse and all
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Hi guys.

I am serrial glow users

So far my car about 3 month.still nice and shine

I am using their car shampoo to DIY my self.

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[quote=sierraglow,Mar 6 2013, 08:26 PM]
[quote=Neo_Y,Mar 3 2013, 11:08 PM]
Isn't the Mazda CX-5 come with Tribos? I'm interested to know more about the combination of Tribos and Sierra Glow.
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No comment to what the CX 5 have done before. But my owner which he has done Sierra Glow coating for his wife Honda Insight about a year ago have notice the big different between our shine and his CX 5. It will be no major problem for us to work on any cars that have other coating before and still bind on well.
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Interesting.
So the Sierra Glow can be apply on a surface that is protected with other coating as well, say the Tribos?
I will soon become a Mazda owner, and the car come with Tribos paint protection coating. Seriously, I find it not shining enough and I'm prohibited to wax or polish it. If SG can overcome it, I will pay you a visit real soon.

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 6 2013, 11:38 PM)
But if I need to care for the coating the same as normal no coating, then might as well just care for the original paint.

My idea is if I coat something I expect it to be tougher and less maintenance than no coating. If it doesn't decrease my work then it serves no purpose.

Eg Teflon pans, without coating food sticks and burns and hard to remove, once coated easier to clean and also tough to scratch.
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Yes, I agreed. I had a Teflon pan that lasted for two years until now. I normally eat out or take away 3 meals 7 days a week. My mum bought a Teflon pan but 3 months later she put it in the disposer bin. She use to cook daily and the last time she was frying Cod fish and the fish stick on to it. This happen when she was preparing CNY reunion dinner and imagine dishing out the fish in pieces. she was so piss off. She has to buy special plastic stirrer and have to avoid using Scotch brite to scrub otherwise will cause scratches to it. My mother is a very fussy type, she keep cleaning the pan and yet it feel oily. I wonder how often you use your Teflon pan and how do you clean it. It seems my mother not so educated and know how to use such hi tech pan. Somehow the pan surface did not few smooth like 1st time she start using. Maybe the residue could have blended together with the food cook and extra Vitamin T in our stomach.
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QUOTE(kokanchai @ Mar 7 2013, 02:34 PM)
Hi guys.

I am  serrial glow users

So far my car about 3 month.still nice and shine

I am using their car shampoo to DIY my self.

Cheer.
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Hi kokanchai, Thank you for your feedback. How is The surface condition, is it stail smooth? Any problem please feel free to contact me.Cheers.
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Interesting.
So the Sierra Glow can be apply on a surface that is protected with other coating as well, say the Tribos?
I will soon become a Mazda owner, and the car come with Tribos paint protection coating. Seriously, I find it not shining enough and I'm prohibited to wax or polish it. If SG can overcome it, I will pay you a visit real soon.
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Yes, boleh. If you login my Facebook under Kf Choong Sierra Glow will have photos of some Mazda car did recently. Cheers.

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Yes, I agreed. I had a Teflon pan that lasted for two years until now. I normally eat out or take away 3 meals 7 days a week. My mum bought a Teflon pan but 3 months later she put it in the disposer bin. She use to cook daily and the last time she was frying Cod fish and the fish stick on to it. This happen when she was preparing CNY reunion dinner and imagine dishing out the fish in pieces. she was so piss off. She has to buy special plastic stirrer and have to avoid using Scotch brite to scrub otherwise will cause scratches to it. My mother is a very fussy type, she keep cleaning the pan and yet it feel oily. I wonder how often you use your Teflon pan and how do you clean it. It seems my mother not so educated and know how to use such hi tech pan. Somehow the pan surface did not few smooth like 1st time she start using. Maybe the residue could have blended together with the food cook and extra Vitamin T in our stomach.
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if sierra glow is also like your mom teflon pan, can we put it into the bin also?
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I have sierra glow on for 6 months already, and I must say it does help tremendously when I'm cleaning the car. Stains and dirt won't stick and is easy to clean off.

Of course, for the tar spots near the bottom side of the car doors, I will use those 3M clay bars (bought for only rm20 for one big piece. Use only 1/10 from that big pice for around 5-6 usage). It rubs the tar spots off like a rubber.

I didn't expect much initially when I went for this coating, just the fact that it will protect my white car from oxidisation and easy to clean. Use the clay bar to wipe, trust me, it helps a lot.


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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 8 2013, 07:34 AM)
if sierra glow is also like your mom teflon pan, can we put it into the bin also?
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Oh of course, but that was a Teflon coated pan. But you was stress on how good your Teflon pan. You never at one time how long your Teflon pan lasted. Sometimes human will tell one side of their story and hide the truth the other. Consumer now are very intelligent, let the product speak for itself. That why I have few ex Teflon pan user but switch to Sierra Glow. Not only him but his family members wife, son and daughter also came for Sierra Glow. Pointless to practice Red Ocean strategy.

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QUOTE(sierraglow @ Mar 8 2013, 11:33 AM)
Oh of course, but that was a Teflon coated pan. But you was stress on how good your Teflon pan. You never at one time how long your Teflon pan lasted. Sometimes human will tell one side of their story and hide the truth the other. Consumer now are very intelligent, let the product speak for itself. That why I have few ex Teflon pan user but switch to Sierra Glow. Not only him but his family members wife, son and daughter also came for Sierra Glow. Pointless to practice Red Ocean strategy.
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bro, answer the qeustion if i coat with sierra glow do i have to care for it as much as normal paint or not??

yes or no?
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 8 2013, 01:41 PM)
bro, answer the qeustion if i coat with sierra glow do i have to care for it as much as normal paint or not??

yes or no?
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Erm... I think Mr.Choong (@sierraglow)qualifies as 'uncle' rather than 'bro'. Unless you're already 50 that is. He's a nice friendly 'uncle'. And also a tree hugger haha
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 8 2013, 01:41 PM)
bro, answer the qeustion if i coat with sierra glow do i have to care for it as much as normal paint or not??

yes or no?
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Depend on your definition of normal care? But I can assure you will need not to wax and polish your car which eventually the original paint will get thinner. We have the latest technology from Japan and much superior lasting shine. Just need to normal wash and shampoo to keep the surface clean. Of on you do need to clay bar the surface. We advise our customer to clay bar their car. Unlike other will not be generous to advise because they will loss business if customer don't need their service to maintain their car.

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QUOTE(azfamy @ Mar 8 2013, 03:26 PM)
Erm... I think Mr.Choong (@sierraglow)qualifies as 'uncle' rather than 'bro'. Unless you're already 50 that is. He's a nice friendly 'uncle'. And also a tree hugger haha
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Thank you azfamy for your nice compliment.
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Can i get discount to coat my other car? brows.gif

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bro, answer the qeustion if i coat with sierra glow do i have to care for it as much as normal paint or not??

yes or no?
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This was written by KrisMas in Autoworld forum

Cheap wax - don't last long - need to re-apply regularly
Better wax - more expensive - last a little bit longer - lesser frequency of application
Coatings - cost a bomb - last for ages - you might even already be considering selling off your car by the time it fails

Note: for each of the above there are different grades of products, so I'm just putting a general statement.

The above would generally apply PROVIDED THAT you undertake PROPER MAINTENANCE ROUTINE which are more or less the same regardless you're using cheap wax, expensive wax or coating - which is cleaning and washing regularly.

Neglect the maintenance part, even a coating *might* just last as long as a cheap wax before you'd get waterspots, embeded contaminants, marrings, swirls, etc.

The main advantage of putting on a 'coating' instead of wax/sealant is the amount of effort you'd need to put down for maintenance. Eg. washing is easier as a coating would shed/release dirt better; no more monthly re-waxing; some coatings even boast high hardness level so it's more difficult to get swirls/marring; etc.

But, my point is, regardless any type of protection you put on, whether it be a cheap wax or the most durable coating available in the market, you'd still need to undertake PROPER MAINTENANCE ROUTINE. Because, end of the day, all of them are just a SACRIFICIAL LAYER OF PROTECTION put on top of the paint.


............ so in conclusion you still have to care for it using REGULAR PROPER MAINTENANCE ROUTINE even with a coating.

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Mar 8 2013, 11:49 PM)
This was written by KrisMas in Autoworld forum

Cheap wax - don't last long - need to re-apply regularly
Better wax - more expensive - last a little bit longer - lesser frequency of application
Coatings - cost a bomb - last for ages - you might even already be considering selling off your car by the time it fails

Note: for each of the above there are different grades of products, so I'm just putting a general statement.

The above would generally apply PROVIDED THAT you undertake PROPER MAINTENANCE ROUTINE which are more or less the same regardless you're using cheap wax, expensive wax or coating - which is cleaning and washing regularly.

Neglect the maintenance part, even a coating *might* just last as long as a cheap wax before you'd get waterspots, embeded contaminants, marrings, swirls, etc.

The main advantage of putting on a 'coating' instead of wax/sealant is the amount of effort you'd need to put down for maintenance. Eg. washing is easier as a coating would shed/release dirt better; no more monthly re-waxing; some coatings even boast high hardness level so it's more difficult to get swirls/marring; etc.

But, my point is, regardless any type of protection you put on, whether it be a cheap wax or the most durable coating available in the market, you'd still need to undertake PROPER MAINTENANCE ROUTINE. Because, end of the day, all of them are just a SACRIFICIAL LAYER OF PROTECTION put on top of the paint.
............ so in conclusion you still have to care for it using REGULAR PROPER MAINTENANCE ROUTINE even with a coating.
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so might as well just care for the car with cheaper wax since a coating is also not as hard if not given the same attention

the cost of coatings just don't justify its use if it doesn't reduce regular maintenance to a bare minimum and still retain shine.

if I do the same for a non coated car then the paint will last as long as a coated one so what the coating does but add weight
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since both are sacrificial and both require same care then what does the coating provide then? Easy washing wax also does that.

plus today's modern paints are also much hard wearing already I dare even say exceeding these coatings which are maybe 20 year old tech?

Is there solid research into the sacrificial rate of cheap wax versus coatings? I say there are none

How can anyone prove that the coating is still there now that they have to care for it as much and that the coating didn't already wear off completely and the are actually caring for the original paint still assuming it's the coating?

The price if the coating is close to a full outer respray of the car. If I wanted to sell I'll just respray it and it'll look a billion times better than any old coating if any remains. Isn't it easier to just let the paint weather normally and full respray since both cost the same. At least I can really not care rather than pay and still do the donkey work

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 9 2013, 08:11 AM)
so might as well just care for the car with cheaper wax since a coating is also not as hard if not given the same attention

the cost of coatings just don't justify its use if it doesn't reduce regular maintenance to a bare minimum and still retain shine.

if I do the same for a non coated car then the paint will last as long as a coated one so what the coating does but add weight
lah

since both are sacrificial and both require same care then what does the coating provide then? Easy washing wax also does that.

plus today's modern paints are also much hard wearing already I dare even say exceeding these coatings which are maybe 20 year old tech?

Is there solid research into the sacrificial rate of cheap wax versus coatings? I say there are none

How can anyone prove that the coating is still there now that they have to care for it as much and that the coating didn't already wear off completely and the are actually caring for the original paint still assuming it's the coating?

The price if the coating is close to a full outer respray of the car. If I wanted to sell I'll just respray it and it'll look a billion times better than any old coating if any remains. Isn't it easier to just let the paint weather normally and full respray since both cost the same. At least I can really not care rather than pay and still do the donkey work
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1. Why do we wax and polish our car?
2. How long can the shine last after each waxing and polishing?
3. How much will cost each time waxing and polishing ?
4. Do we notice the swirl marks and hologram marks on the surface after waxing and polishing ?
5. Will our original paint become thinner to frequent waxing and polishing ?
6. Is our original paint better than new coat of paint?
7. Will the paint remove all rubber gasket lighting before repainting?
8. How long can the gloss effect of the new paint last ?
9. Question No 1 to 5 process will repeat again.
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QUOTE(sierraglow @ Mar 9 2013, 06:18 PM)
1. Why do we wax and polish our car?
2. How long can the shine last after each waxing and polishing?
3. How much will cost each time waxing and polishing ?
4. Do we notice the swirl marks and hologram marks on the surface after waxing and polishing ?
5. Will our original paint become thinner to frequent waxing and polishing ?
6. Is our original paint better than new coat of paint?
7. Will the paint remove all rubber gasket lighting before repainting?
8. How long can the gloss effect of the new paint last ?
9. Question No 1 to 5 process will repeat again.
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1. wax to look nice, polish to remove scratches

2. 6 months is my experience

3. nothing, one can of wax goes long way

4. nope if you use clean cloth, i think got complaint here about sierra glow also swirl marks

5. no, paint is protected by clear coat, if you buy car no clear coat the brain better put elsewhere

6. absolutely, robot spraying in clean controlled conditions and extreme precision ensures very high quality work, plus inspection in light tunnel and defects correction after painting

7. no idea what is gasket lighting

8. with regular 6 monthly roughly 7 years, like my gen 2

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I'm interested with coating as well, can protect car under extreme weather of malaysia

Just one question, what the solution of swirl mark after coating ?
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QUOTE(blu3 @ Mar 10 2013, 01:24 AM)
I'm interested with coating as well, can protect car under extreme weather of malaysia

Just one question, what the solution of swirl mark after coating ?
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Yes, no a issue with our Malaysia weather. Swirl marks can be minimise by removing hard dirt like sand or soil off the surface prior to began shampoo. We have to take precautionary method to avoid causing swirl marks on the surface. Please do contact me for further info. Thank you.

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Hi, I've applied SG for about a month (still a satisfied customer). I got a question on claying the car and seek your kind input.

I bought meg clay bar and will be claying my car soon. Apart from water to lubricate the clay and surface, what other recommended lubrication can I use?
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QUOTE(asylum14 @ Mar 11 2013, 01:17 AM)
Hi, I've applied SG for about a month (still a satisfied customer). I got a question on claying the car and seek your kind input.

I bought meg clay bar and will be claying my car soon. Apart from water to lubricate the clay and surface, what other recommended lubrication can I use?
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Hi asylum, You may use mild shampoo or if not mistaken meg would have a product for it too.but ensure shampoo is rinse well before being folding.

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IMHO it silly to protect normal cheap paint with such expensive "coatings".
If my car is using very expensive paintjobs, then yes it is justifiable.
But if my car is just a factory default paintjob, it looks ridiculous to send it for such coating treatments. Might as well just send for new coat of paint every few years.
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QUOTE(durianpuff @ Mar 11 2013, 09:46 AM)
IMHO it silly to protect normal cheap paint with such expensive "coatings".
If my car is using very expensive paintjobs, then yes it is justifiable.
But if my car is just a factory default paintjob, it looks ridiculous to send it for such coating treatments. Might as well just send for new coat of paint every few years.
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plus the clear coat on modern paints are meant to resist foreign matter from sticking so i wonder how well these coatings really stick to the clear coat, if they do i assume they eat into the clear coat to hold on and when it gets worn away, walla the clear coat is also damaged already.
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it is like trying to protect a $100 item with a $100 wrap hmm.gif
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Interesting. I was debating between Nanobrite and Sierraglow. Nanobrite claims to have the hardest coating in town (12H) but much more expensive, I believe. Mr Choong seems to be a very nice chap with a personal touch and this may tip the argument in his favour. Looking to coat a 1996 E230 (paint in good condition) and a new Audi A6 Hybrid in April.
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One other thing, Mr Choong. Do you do treatment for the interior of the car?
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Here is my opinion.
Correct me if I'm wrong but please don't shoot me. sweat.gif

If you want to go for coating, you have to be prepared to do regular maintenance - wash and dry it every week and also wash and dry it after raining.

A coating is hard. Harder than waxes.
It is also thicker. Some people say they can't feel the metal of the car body after coating.
A coating is better than wax when it comes to protecting the paint from colour fading and bird bombs.

The problem with coating as some users have found out is watermarks.
Because a coating is much harder, when watermarks form on it, it is also much harder to get it out.
Watermarks on waxes are easier to correct because wax is softer it requires less effort to sacrifice it.
Usually people who have spent a lot money on a coating also wouldn't want to DIY whistling.gif

A coating is definitely more durable than waxes and in the long run is cheaper too.
If you were to send your car for a 3 step clay, polish, wax it'll cost you say RM200 each time.
If you do that twice a year for 5 years, it will come to RM2000.
A Sierraglow coating is less than that ..... I think unsure.gif sweat.gif

Anyone who wants to have a nice and shiny car ..... there is no shortcut.
Either you spend lots of money to pay someone to do it for you or you spend less and do it yourself.
The other option is to just have a clean car (wash whenever you feel like it) instead of a very shiny one.
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Just a note to everyone. Mr. Choong has already PM me regarding my questions.
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Mar 11 2013, 03:30 PM)
Here is my opinion.
Correct me if I'm wrong but please don't shoot me. sweat.gif

If you want to go for coating, you have to be prepared to do regular maintenance - wash and dry it every week and also wash and dry it after raining.

A coating is hard. Harder than waxes.
It is also thicker. Some people say they can't feel the metal of the car body after coating.
A coating is better than wax when it comes to protecting the paint from colour fading and bird bombs.

The problem with coating as some users have found out is watermarks.
Because a coating is much harder, when watermarks form on it, it is also much harder to get it out.
Watermarks on waxes are easier to correct because wax is softer it requires less effort to sacrifice it.
Usually people who have spent a lot money on a coating also wouldn't want to DIY whistling.gif

A coating is definitely more durable than waxes and in the long run is cheaper too.
If you were to send your car for a 3 step clay, polish, wax it'll cost you say RM200 each time.
If you do that twice a year for 5 years, it will come to RM2000.
A Sierraglow coating is less than that ..... I think unsure.gif  sweat.gif

Anyone who wants to have a nice and shiny car ..... there is no shortcut.
Either you spend lots of money to pay someone to do it for you or you spend less and do it yourself.
The other option is to just have a clean car (wash whenever you feel like it) instead of a very shiny one.
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I agree smile.gif
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QUOTE(asylum14 @ Mar 11 2013, 01:17 AM)
Hi, I've applied SG for about a month (still a satisfied customer). I got a question on claying the car and seek your kind input.

I bought meg clay bar and will be claying my car soon. Apart from water to lubricate the clay and surface, what other recommended lubrication can I use?
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it go great with meguiars ultimate detailer spray
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Mar 11 2013, 03:30 PM)
Here is my opinion.
Correct me if I'm wrong but please don't shoot me. sweat.gif

If you want to go for coating, you have to be prepared to do regular maintenance - wash and dry it every week and also wash and dry it after raining.

A coating is hard. Harder than waxes.
It is also thicker. Some people say they can't feel the metal of the car body after coating.
A coating is better than wax when it comes to protecting the paint from colour fading and bird bombs.

The problem with coating as some users have found out is watermarks.
Because a coating is much harder, when watermarks form on it, it is also much harder to get it out.
Watermarks on waxes are easier to correct because wax is softer it requires less effort to sacrifice it.
Usually people who have spent a lot money on a coating also wouldn't want to DIY whistling.gif

A coating is definitely more durable than waxes and in the long run is cheaper too.
If you were to send your car for a 3 step clay, polish, wax it'll cost you say RM200 each time.
If you do that twice a year for 5 years, it will come to RM2000.
A Sierraglow coating is less than that ..... I think unsure.gif  sweat.gif

Anyone who wants to have a nice and shiny car ..... there is no shortcut.
Either you spend lots of money to pay someone to do it for you or you spend less and do it yourself.
The other option is to just have a clean car (wash whenever you feel like it) instead of a very shiny one.
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For me hard coatings means even watermarks shouldn't form, if it's hard to remove it means the water mark has done deep into the coating, and to remove it you have to remove even more coating which defeats its purpose.


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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 12 2013, 07:28 AM)
For me hard coatings means even watermarks shouldn't form, if it's hard to remove it means the water mark has done deep into the coating, and to remove it you have to remove even more coating which defeats its purpose.
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Agreed. Its like now instead of having to care/worry about the car paint, I need to worry/care about that coating. WTF right?
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QUOTE(durianpuff @ Mar 12 2013, 09:24 AM)
Agreed. Its like now instead of having to care/worry about the car paint, I need to worry/care about that coating. WTF right?
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EXACTLY!!

finally someone gets it.


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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 12 2013, 07:28 AM)
For me hard coatings means even watermarks shouldn't form, if it's hard to remove it means the water mark has done deep into the coating, and to remove it you have to remove even more coating which defeats its purpose.
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Have you seen watermarks on a windshield?
A windshield is made from glass. Real glass.

If watermarks can form on real glass which is very hard, it'll have no problem to form on a chemical glass coating. whistling.gif brows.gif

I shall not say how the detailer removes the watermark from the coating coz I don't know biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Mar 12 2013, 10:12 AM)
Have you seen watermarks on a windshield?
A windshield is made from glass. Real glass.

If watermarks can form on real glass which is very hard, it'll have no problem to form on a chemical glass coating. whistling.gif  brows.gif

I shall not say how the detailer removes the watermark from the coating coz I don't know biggrin.gif
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yes but for glass i know it's a fact it's a deposit only, you can use as much strength as you like to remove it the glass doesn't thin

but the coating i doubt it
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QUOTE(durianpuff @ Mar 12 2013, 09:24 AM)
Agreed. Its like now instead of having to care/worry about the car paint, I need to worry/care about that coating. WTF right?
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Without coat: you worry about paint.
With coat: you worry about coat, no more worry about paint. It is easier to re-coat than re-paint.


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QUOTE(fongss76 @ Mar 12 2013, 12:15 PM)
Without coat: you worry about paint.
With coat: you worry about coat, no more worry about paint. It is easier to re-coat than re-paint.
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in summary it is still something to worry about, and it requires special technique to maintain (qualify for warranty)
this coating thing would have been more interesting if it did not require so much hassle to maintain hmm.gif

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I just wonder.

Let's say you do the paint coating but lazy to do the maintenance.

Instead of weekly washing the car, you send it to roadside car wash once a month.

After a while swirl marks and watermarks forms on the coating.

Will the detailer fix the problems back for you for free? sweat.gif hmm.gif
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How serious the water work would be? Any photos ?
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i've considered applying my car with sierraglow but it seems like it is tedious as well. i have to pay a big sum of money and still have to take proper maintenance of the coating.

also, lets say things are not as good. maybe we accidently scratches the bumper or kena kiss behind. if i go for touchup, i believe the paint will somehow distorted due to the fact that the peeled off paint are much much more thinner than other intact paint with sierraglow.
what about stone chips that hit your front bonnet every now and then?

while i can remove wax easily, i believe its not so with sg and its very expensive stuff to remove lol.

not to mention the price has just rose up 25% from RM600 (last year) to RM750 (this year). this makes the value drop further, we still have to care about the maintenance, and it may be tedious somehow later.

worthy? think again
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Mar 12 2013, 05:12 PM)
i've considered applying my car with sierraglow but it seems like it is tedious as well. i have to pay a big sum of money and still have to take proper maintenance of the coating.

also, lets say things are not as good. maybe we accidently scratches the bumper or kena kiss behind. if i go for touchup, i believe the paint will somehow distorted due to the fact that the peeled off paint are much much more thinner than other intact paint with sierraglow.
what about stone chips that hit your front bonnet every now and then?

while i can remove wax easily, i believe its not so with sg and its very expensive stuff to remove lol.

not to mention the price has just rose up 25% from RM600 (last year) to RM750 (this year). this makes the value drop further, we still have to care about the maintenance, and it may be tedious somehow later.

worthy? think again
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Hi imperialrealcs, Our price is base on the age and car model size. Our price in the market is the cheapest for Silica Glass coating which is much superior that any other. Our technology is at least 5 years advance than any other Silica Glass coating in the market and more over Glass coating is the top of the range for Paint Protection Sealant. Q

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QUOTE(sierraglow @ Mar 13 2013, 08:32 PM)
Hi imperialrealcs, Our price is base on the age and car model size. Our price in the market is the cheapest for Silica Glass coating which is much superior that any other. Our technology is at least 5 years advance than any other Silica Glass coating in the market and more over Glass coating is the top of the range for Paint Protection Sealant. Q
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Silica Glass coating which is much superior that any other
Which other coat are you talking about? can you be explicit? Its easy to say i am the best but a one eyed man in the land of the blind is king smile.gif


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QUOTE(sierraglow @ Mar 13 2013, 08:32 PM)
Hi imperialrealcs, Our price is base on the age and car model size. Our price in the market is the cheapest for Silica Glass coating which is much superior that any other. Our technology is at least 5 years advance than any other Silica Glass coating in the market and more over Glass coating is the top of the range for Paint Protection Sealant. Q
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ya and that still didnt answer my other concern regarding the maintenance etc. i was considering at rm600 until i asked and i got rm750 then i ditch the idea completely off due to the trouble that i would actually have after applying.
the price value drop
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Mar 14 2013, 01:29 AM)
ya and that still didnt answer my other concern regarding the maintenance etc. i was considering at rm600 until i asked and i got rm750 then i ditch the idea completely off due to the trouble that i would actually have after applying.
the price value drop
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Like ini have mentioned earlier, from 1st Elantra was done coating when it was launch the price is not RM600. You can do research at Elantra club and confirm the rate. It is fair for you to self determine the price or you may be one of competitions that would like to kick up a story in the forum. Thank you.
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Mar 14 2013, 01:29 AM)
ya and that still didnt answer my other concern regarding the maintenance etc. i was considering at rm600 until i asked and i got rm750 then i ditch the idea completely off due to the trouble that i would actually have after applying.
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There will be no major concern in maintaining. Normal washing to keep your car clean. We educate our customer to use clay bar to maintain their car, unlike does other car wash or detailing shop ever advise customer to use clay bar? Because if you a problem you will return and will charge you for the service.
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Can you explain  Which other coat are you talking about? can you be explicit? Its easy to say i am the best but a one eyed man in the land of the blind is king smile.gif
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With Internet we can do research of anything. Our product description is in our website. Thank you.
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QUOTE(sierraglow @ Mar 14 2013, 06:37 PM)
With Internet we can do research of anything. Our product description is in our website. Thank you.
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thanks for not answering the question.
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thanks for not answering the question.
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I only stress on what our product is about and not so dump to criticism others in the open nor our policy of practising in our profession.

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QUOTE(sierraglow @ Mar 13 2013, 08:32 PM)
Hi imperialrealcs, Our price is base on the age and car model size. Our price in the market is the cheapest for Silica Glass coating which is much superior that any other. Our technology is at least 5 years advance than any other Silica Glass coating in the market and more over Glass coating is the top of the range for Paint Protection Sealant. Q
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Can't help but to comment.

How does one determine that a "technology" is at least 5 years more advanced than its competition? lol
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QUOTE(sierraglow @ Mar 14 2013, 08:08 PM)
I only stress on what our product is about and not so dump to criticism others in the open nor our policy of practising in our profession.
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then dont put claims as such. because you are decieving people!
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Can't help but to comment.

How does one determine that a "technology" is at least 5 years more advanced than its competition? lol
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QUOTE(sierraglow @ Mar 14 2013, 08:08 PM)
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Seems like your professional practice is to evade questions by giving vague answers
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Let's see .....

A buyer pays RM750 for a Sierraglow coating.
He must maintain the coating by washing, claying and drying the car.
I estimate this maintenance will easily take 2-3 hours to do.
And he can't send it roadside RM10 car wash coz they don't exactly do claying right? rolleyes.gif

Every week need to spend 2-3 hours to wash, clay and dry the car sweat.gif

or else pay more $$$$ to send back to Sierraglow rolleyes.gif whistling.gif

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Mar 15 2013, 11:19 AM)
Let's see .....

A buyer pays RM750 for a Sierraglow coating.
He must maintain the coating by washing, claying and drying the car.
I estimate this maintenance will easily take 2-3 hours to do.
And he can't send it roadside RM10 car wash coz they don't exactly do claying right? rolleyes.gif

Every week need to spend 2-3 hours to wash, clay and dry the car  sweat.gif

or else pay more $$$$ to send back to Sierraglow  rolleyes.gif  whistling.gif
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I rather repaint my car every few years.
Why I must protect the thing that is suppose to protect my car paint which is supposed to protect my car? hmm.gif
It's like hiring a bodyguard to protect your house, but you must protect your bodyguard so he can protect your house. weird LOL
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and lets be realistic, no car in malaysia ever lasts that long without being invovled in an accident/scratch/vandalism that warrants a respray anwyays

and even if you only care the paint 6 months once, it still lasts a long time
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Guys,

What are the different kind to coating for Sierra Glow? Heard got Blue Frame and the normal treatment. Really confused.
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Apr 7 2014, 07:50 PM)
Guys,

What are the different kind to coating for Sierra Glow? Heard got Blue Frame and the normal treatment. Really confused.
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As I know the blue flame makes your paint look more "wet"...

Yes "wet" so it looks shiny and fresh, don't think senget...
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contacted SG, was quoted 750 for forte, n rm850 for C200 W204. so SG is saying they r quoting the price of the car based on segment n size of car, but I tot both rin same segment? verified with paultan as well on the segment. person reply not so friendly..not sure is Mr Chong or not which describe him as a friendly person in this forum. so I guess they quote u accoeding to ur car brand instead... brows.gif
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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Apr 7 2014, 08:55 PM)
As I know the blue flame makes your paint look more "wet"...

Yes "wet" so it looks shiny and fresh, don't think senget...
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blue flame rm2600...
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QUOTE(azmirkhalid @ Dec 15 2010, 09:29 AM)
i just get sierra glow to my car last 2 months. and yes, i had scratched my car recently...sent to them and they polished the scratch and give the treatment back and now it is just like new...no scratch anymore....even they say, if i had an accident, i change new bumper....they will give FREE treatment for the new bumper as long as within 5 years...to me, it is really worth it...easy maintenance + good after sale service...
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So good! How much you spent for the treatment?
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QUOTE(walle @ Oct 26 2014, 06:56 PM)
blue flame rm2600...
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Hey all,

Just called up Sierra Glow in Penang to have my car coated next week. Cannot tahan with the dirt that sticks to the car. Washed up the car but ended scratching it. Thanks to ZeeKay who spent his time and money to explain to me about their product over the phone for more than 15mins.
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Juz added mr chong on fb. Seems like i ll need to call him up to seek some advice on my new cx5.
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any place to apply sierrra glow in JB area?
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Tomorrow is the day i go for sierra glow. C ya guys. I ll post feedback 3 mths later.
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Honestly i have used Sierra Glow on my two cars, the 2nd car for >2 years now. Still looks good. I just send my car in for those normal RM15 car wash.
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You have to set your expectation right. Use SG to prolong the paint, but if you're going to be lazy and only have a few minutes a week, don't expect it to look as good as when you first take the car out. Mind you, the protection is still there, but you might get water marks and marks left by leaves and sap. That said, they're pretty easy to remove with sierra bead.

As with most things, you get best results when you look after it, otherwise no amount of coating will keep. For 700 or thereabouts, its pretty good value compared to some others that cost almost 3 times more.

Some people swear by ONR, but I find that I have to spend more time making sure my cloths are clean. Saves water though.


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QUOTE(kennykong85 @ Nov 6 2014, 06:08 PM)
Tomorrow is the day i go for sierra glow. C ya guys. I ll post feedback 3 mths later.
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Mine will be on Saturday..cant wait to see my baby shine back haha
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After 2 years of SierraGlow... Still shines like new, minus scratches here and there (own's fault whistling.gif )

Wash the car once a month (DIY or normal RM10 car wash place). Too lazy. Quick clay if too 'dirty'. Nothing much.

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how much is the normal SG coating for Vios and Altis? Thinking to give a try.
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Pricing is advised by Mr Chong from Sierra Glow, you better show him your car condition so that he can advise.

To share with you, I bought my Altis last year in Sep15 and sent it to Mr Chong for Blue Flame. Now after so many months, my car really looks still shiny and new. I also follow Mr Chong's advise to wipe clean with the micro-fibre cloth, and usually this is during weekends. I hardly shampoo the car LOL

I am very satisfied with my car's condition thumbup.gif

My sister's car did the Sierra Glow coating and after more than 1 year, it still looks nice and shiny.


QUOTE(uptrend @ Jan 14 2016, 05:46 PM)
how much is the normal SG coating for Vios and Altis? Thinking to give a try.
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QUOTE(audi5775 @ Feb 29 2016, 02:02 PM)
Pricing is advised by Mr Chong from Sierra Glow, you better show him your car condition so that he can advise.

To share with you, I bought my Altis last year in Sep15 and sent it to Mr Chong for Blue Flame. Now after so many months, my car really looks still shiny and new. I also follow Mr Chong's advise to wipe clean with the micro-fibre cloth, and usually this is during weekends. I hardly shampoo the car LOL

I am very satisfied with my car's condition  thumbup.gif

My sister's car did the Sierra Glow coating and after more than 1 year, it still looks nice and shiny.
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Hi, we had sent in a few cars so we got a group price. It's better for you to let him examine your car condition for estimate price, I think it depends on how car condition.

QUOTE(joefrezzo @ Mar 29 2016, 12:32 PM)
Hi, mind to share roughly how much you pay for your new Altis?
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QUOTE(audi5775 @ Mar 29 2016, 09:33 PM)
Hi, we had sent in a few cars so we got a group price. It's better for you to let him examine your car condition for estimate price, I think it depends on how car condition.
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Alright. I will send my car over. Thanks.
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You just let him check and quote. Some ppl say the effect is not good. But for me, so far so good. I think it's a good coating but really need to take care.


QUOTE(joefrezzo @ Mar 30 2016, 10:52 AM)
Alright. I will send my car over. Thanks.
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Tomorrow is the day i go for sierra glow. C ya guys. I ll post feedback 3 mths later.
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So far how was ur car coating?
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jun 14 2016, 08:35 PM)
So far how was ur car coating?
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Tapao liao coz i didnt maintain it properly owaii
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Tapao liao coz i didnt maintain it properly owaii
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so it look cacat?
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jun 15 2016, 07:36 PM)
sorry to hear that bro.
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Coz my car always park outdoor, and then i lama lama baru cuci 1 kali. Ofcoz the protection worn off la.

Cacat... no la. Alot of water marks
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QUOTE(kennykong85 @ Jun 15 2016, 09:16 PM)
Coz my car always park outdoor, and then i lama lama baru cuci 1 kali. Ofcoz the protection worn off la.

Cacat... no la. Alot of water marks
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Got 5 years warranty, just call them make appointment they should do it back for you..
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Just done SG5 yesterday.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jun 16 2016, 05:19 AM)
Got 5 years warranty, just call them make appointment they should do it back for you..
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Its 5 years warranty but the effect last only about 1 year. I sent my car in for 2 times. Gave up after that..
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QUOTE(Termibait @ Jun 17 2016, 03:01 PM)
Its 5 years warranty but the effect last only about 1 year. I sent my car in for 2 times. Gave up after that..
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May I know why u give up?
After 1 yr, ur car still shining?
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jun 17 2016, 06:46 PM)
May I know why u give up?
After 1 yr, ur car still shining?
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8 months after 1st coat. I went back for warranty claim. Whoke car was recoated. 2nd coat last about 1 year also. I was really taking care of the car. Wash weekly as recommended. Use alchohol to wipe as recommended too. Parked under roof too. Bought shampoo for them too. But it did not lasts long. Tired of care taking the coat after that. Car looks old due to cant polish. In the end, cant withstand the ugly old look, decided to send car for polish. The paint immediately turned whitish again and never look back after that. Just wax the car whenever i am free is good enough. Car paint still white and shining.


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QUOTE(Termibait @ Jun 17 2016, 06:58 PM)
8 months after 1st coat. I went back for warranty claim. Whoke car was recoated. 2nd coat last about 1 year also. I was really taking care of the car. Wash weekly as recommended. Use alchohol to wipe as recommended too. Parked under roof too. Bought shampoo for them too. But it did not lasts long. Tired of care taking the coat after that. Car looks old due to cant polish. In the end, cant withstand the ugly old look, decided to send car for polish. The paint immediately turned whitish again and never look back after that. Just wax the car whenever i am free is good enough. Car paint still white and shining.
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wah lao so troublesome???
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QUOTE(brianccg @ Jun 16 2016, 10:53 AM)
Just done SG5 yesterday.
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QUOTE(Termibait @ Jun 17 2016, 06:58 PM)
8 months after 1st coat. I went back for warranty claim. Whoke car was recoated. 2nd coat last about 1 year also. I was really taking care of the car. Wash weekly as recommended. Use alchohol to wipe as recommended too. Parked under roof too. Bought shampoo for them too. But it did not lasts long. Tired of care taking the coat after that. Car looks old due to cant polish. In the end, cant withstand the ugly old look, decided to send car for polish. The paint immediately turned whitish again and never look back after that. Just wax the car whenever i am free is good enough. Car paint still white and shining.
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Use alcohol to wipe??! That's really my first time hearing this. Is that the instruction provided by the car detailing shop?
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Use alcohol to wipe??! That's really my first time hearing this. Is that the instruction provided by the car detailing shop?
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Yes. Its recommended by the shop.

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Yes. Its recommended by the shop.
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QUOTE(FireIceCombo @ Jun 17 2016, 09:56 PM)
you're the hrv dude who came after me ?
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Yes Sir. Your car look shine. Looks like after re-paint.
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that's the thing I don't get it with all these so called coatings etc!!!!

After you coat, they advise you to wash your car after rain, wash your car if got bird droppings, this and that wash wash.. If like that, why on earth I need to do coating????? I rather have it normal wax and wash the car as per advised!!!!! doh.gif
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QUOTE(Termibait @ Jun 18 2016, 03:32 PM)
Yes. Its recommended by the shop.
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That's weird. Supposedly one shouldn't need to take care the coating with IPA. It just doesn't make sense for the detailing shop to ask you to do that. sad.gif


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QUOTE(subaru555 @ Jun 20 2016, 11:46 AM)
that's the thing I don't get it with all these so called coatings etc!!!!

After you coat, they advise you to wash your car after rain, wash your car if got bird droppings, this and that wash wash.. If like that, why on earth I need to do coating????? I rather have it normal wax and wash the car as per advised!!!!! doh.gif
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Which is why after 2 years of suffering, i decided to forget about the water beading effect. it is just too troublesome which i have to give up eventually. now i can say i feel more relax even i dont wash my car for 2 weeks.

QUOTE(windskill @ Jun 20 2016, 01:00 PM)
That's weird. Supposedly one shouldn't need to take care the coating with IPA. It just doesn't make sense for the detailing shop to ask you to do that.  sad.gif
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Tell me about it. dry.gif
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QUOTE(subaru555 @ Jun 20 2016, 11:46 AM)
that's the thing I don't get it with all these so called coatings etc!!!!

After you coat, they advise you to wash your car after rain, wash your car if got bird droppings, this and that wash wash.. If like that, why on earth I need to do coating????? I rather have it normal wax and wash the car as per advised!!!!! doh.gif
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yea haha. just need to tahan temptation of sending your car for coating at the first year of ownership and you will forget about it.

Just add RM10 for "water wax" in your neighbourhood car wash, your car have the water-beading effect and shines also rclxm9.gif

If you want it looks cleaner just clay it yourself half a year though...depends on your OCD level biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Termibait @ Jun 20 2016, 02:05 PM)
Which is why after 2 years of suffering, i decided to forget about the water beading effect. it is just too troublesome which i have to give up eventually. now i can say i feel more relax even i dont wash my car for 2 weeks.
Tell me about it.  dry.gif
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The primary use of IPA is to remove the oil/residue left from compound/polish product. During paint corrections stage, IPA helps to reveal the remaining paint defects which might be masked by the polish residue. Another use of IPA is to provide a fresh, cleaner surface for coating to bond with prior to coating application.

Unless the coating might suffer premature deterioration due to oil after bonded with the paint, which I have never heard of, consumer shouldn't need to take extra steps to wipe the coating with IPA.
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QUOTE(windskill @ Jun 20 2016, 03:03 PM)
The primary use of IPA is to remove the oil/residue left from compound/polish product. During paint corrections stage, IPA helps to reveal the remaining paint defects which might be masked by the polish residue. Another use of IPA is to provide a fresh, cleaner surface for coating to bond with prior to coating application.

Unless the coating might suffer premature deterioration due to oil after bonded with the paint, which I have never heard of,  consumer shouldn't need to take extra steps to wipe the coating with IPA.
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Thank you for the detailed explanation. Now i know the reason.
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QUOTE(Termibait @ Jun 20 2016, 03:52 PM)
Thank you for the detailed explanation. Now i know the reason.
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You're welcome =) regular normal wash will do for coated car.
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Coating can be removed by physically abrade it, meaning have to polish it.
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i have install coating the sierra glow since 2012 new car during that time

after that..i am giving up. why? i am not satisfied

after a month or two..my pearl white is getting a lot of dust and dirt.

is all bullshit talk.it say it going use plain water wash can be removed.

second that..it make no different when i go do outside polish or wax.

i don't see any big different, why should i need pay more ...if i can going for wax or polish Rm 100 every 3-6 months outside.



my review is..if you keep maintenance washing every week. you not need go do coating.

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IMHO, sometimes with the so-called sophisticated coating we tend to forget the purpose of painting nowadays. I think if coating has to be long lasting, there should be some "cure" process. Some of the so called chemical coating does not convincing at all as it takes equally efforts to maintain the coating. If want better "surface", I would suggest start from good paint job.
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Some of the coating jacks up the price by offering 7 years warranty. Believe me, you probably won't be able to take full advantage of the 7 years warranty. In 3 years you may not even bother to maintain the coating and forfeit the warranty. You may not even keep your car for 7 years. Don't waste your money going for super long warranty.
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QUOTE(kokanchai @ Dec 1 2016, 08:44 PM)
i have install coating the sierra glow since 2012 new car during that time

after that..i am giving up. why? i am not satisfied

after a month or two..my pearl white is getting a lot of dust and dirt.

is all bullshit talk.it say it going use plain water wash can be removed.

second that..it make no different when i go do outside polish or wax.

i don't see any big different, why should i need pay more ...if i can going for wax or polish Rm 100 every 3-6 months outside.
my review is..if you keep maintenance washing every week. you not need go do coating.
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If u wash every week, ur car paint will become not shiny.
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QUOTE(kokanchai @ Dec 1 2016, 08:44 PM)
i have install coating the sierra glow since 2012 new car during that time

after that..i am giving up. why? i am not satisfied

after a month or two..my pearl white is getting a lot of dust and dirt.

is all bullshit talk.it say it going use plain water wash can be removed.

second that..it make no different when i go do outside polish or wax.

i don't see any big different, why should i need pay more ...if i can going for wax or polish Rm 100 every 3-6 months outside.
my review is..if you keep maintenance washing every week. you not need go do coating.
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true.

polish + wax every 2 months will do the trick

coating is just mehhh
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 3 2016, 10:41 AM)
true.

polish + wax every 2 months will do the trick

coating is just mehhh
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coating just use groupon buy enough already... no need purposely do those coating gt 5 years warranty bla bla bla... not worth it.... if wanna pay for it... just use the money for wrapping better....
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just to add on, this sierra glow is crap. one of my car is coated by sierra glow and this mr. chong said no need to wax/polish, bla bla bla. just wash as normal. so i did what he asked. couple of months down the road, the coating was completely gone!. so i bring my car for him to inspect and guess what he said? oh, that's because you sent your car to polish/wax hence there is some swirl mark (which i never did, why would i wanna pay for a coating and then send my car to polish and wax?). he said he can re-coat back the car but with additional RM450 to remove the swirl mark and apply another layer of coating. i told him no and walk away. he just laughed. yeah, mr. chong can sound like a good guy / knowledgeable but deep down he's just a greedy businessman that doesn't keep his words. 5 years warranty is a lie.

016-3452913 - Mr Chong/SCAMMER - if you read this, you should know how you cheated me.

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QUOTE(heart strings @ May 22 2017, 09:38 PM)
just to add on, this sierra glow is crap. one of my car is coated by sierra glow and this mr. chong said no need to wax/polish, bla bla bla. just wash as normal. so i did what he asked. couple of months down the road, the coating was completely gone!. so i bring my car for him to inspect and guess what he said? oh, that's because you sent your car to polish/wax hence there is some swirl mark (which i never did, why would i wanna pay for a coating and then send my car to polish and wax?). he said he can re-coat back the car but with additional RM450 to remove the swirl mark and apply another layer of coating. i told him no and walk away. he just laughed. yeah, mr. chong can sound like a good guy / knowledgeable but deep down he's just a greedy businessman that doesn't keep his words. 5 years warranty is a lie.

016-3452913 - Mr Chong/SCAMMER - if you read this,  you should know how you cheated me.
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What a rip-off! How much did you spend on the sierra glow? All these coatings and their claims are nothing more than borderline scams. Fortunately you did not spend another RM450 or it will be just throwing good money after bad.
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Planning to send my other car which is a Renault Captur for a Sierra Glow treatment.

Packages offered currently
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For all Sierra Glow customers, we have 3 great choices:
1. SG-6 Coating
2. Blue Flame Technology with SG-6
3. Blue Flame Technology with Luminosity (SG-7)
For Renault Captur, they offered:
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5 years warranty
1. SG-6 will be RM1,550.
2. Blue flame with SG-6 will be RM2,550.

10 years warranty
3. Blue flame with Luminosity (SG-7) will be RM3,550.
This is their warranty:
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Sierra Glow has a No Nonsense 5 Year Warranty. While our car coating package is spectacular, we want you to know that paint won't fade or oxidize. You do not need to bring your car back to us for servicing or maintenance, your warranty has no conditions.
Also, if you do have an accident, just fix the damage and bring your car back to us.  We will re-coat with our coating on the resprayed area FOC. Yes, FOC.
Finally, if you are unhappy with your shine or coat, please bring your car in for our assessment and touch up.  We do up to 3 panels (car sections) FOC...
this is why we call it "no nonsense."
Regarding silica purity (which is the material of their product)
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1. SG-6 is one layer with 98.5% silica content.
2. Blue Flame with SG-6 is two layers. Blue Flame Primer Silica and SG-6 (98.5% Silica)
3. Blue Flame with Luminosity (SG-7) is two layers.

However, we able to do up to 5-10 layer as per customer request. Each layer top up will cost RM450-RM550. But we don't recommend so (multi layers) as one layer with pure silica content good enough.
Will update here once I have completed this treatment.
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QUOTE(darren_yuri @ Nov 28 2018, 01:39 AM)
Planning to send my other car which is a Renault Captur for a Sierra Glow treatment.

Packages offered currently
For Renault Captur, they offered:
This is their warranty:
Regarding silica purity (which is the material of their product)
Will update here once I have completed this treatment.
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How was it?
Care to share the result after coating?
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QUOTE(wankhalil @ Dec 5 2018, 09:46 PM)
How was it?
Care to share the result after coating?
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Not yet, I am planning to send the car to the shop soon.
I will share the experiences and results after coating, and possibly future results too.

Just to keep this post alive
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QUOTE(darren_yuri @ Dec 11 2018, 02:43 PM)
Not yet, I am planning to send the car to the shop soon.
I will share the experiences and results after coating, and possibly future results too.

Just to keep this post alive
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Hi how was it after few months? Is it worth coating with SG?
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QUOTE(hwa_thai_see @ Mar 15 2019, 09:42 AM)
Hi how was it after few months? Is it worth coating with SG?
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Well honestly speaking,
it still looks very shiny and new
The best thing is easy to maintain.

and Sierra Glow shop will do free touch-up in case there's like water stain, or bird droppings, or scratches.
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question is now, to blue flame or not not ... extra 900 is a lot tongue.gif
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I do not recommend Sierra Glow at all. First of all their coating doesn’t last. After 1-2 months the coating wears off. Their so called 5 years warranty are nonsense. When you wanna make appointment touch up when all your coating wears off you need to wait for more than 1 month! BUT if you are a NEW customer want to do the coating, appointment is almost immediately. DO NOT WASTE MONEY. I HAVE BEEN CHEATED.
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QUOTE(darren_yuri @ Mar 18 2019, 01:38 AM)
Well honestly speaking,
it still looks very shiny and new
The best thing is easy to maintain. 

and Sierra Glow shop will do free touch-up in case there's like water stain, or bird droppings, or scratches.
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how is it now after ~2yrs?
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QUOTE(jmas @ Feb 15 2021, 07:43 PM)
how is it now after ~2yrs?
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Thanks for bringing back this topic!
My own experience is that, the car still looks shiny and new.
Even with small scratches SG will able to touch up.

I did it on my parent's Renault Captur with Atacama Orange, because the color itself is quite stunning and fantastic paint job from factory , plus with SG's coating I personally think the result is amazing till today.

I am the one recommend SG to my parents, my parents are those picky type, so far so good except that SG shop is a bit far from my place (Old Klang Road to USJ), plus now MCO cannot go to touch up.
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QUOTE(darren_yuri @ Feb 20 2021, 06:22 PM)
Thanks for bringing back this topic!
My own experience is that, the car still looks shiny and new.
Even with small scratches SG will able to touch up.

I did it on my parent's Renault Captur with Atacama Orange, because the color itself is quite stunning and fantastic paint job from factory , plus with SG's coating I personally think the result is amazing till today.

I am the one recommend SG to my parents, my parents are those picky type, so far so good except that SG shop is a bit far from my place (Old Klang Road to USJ), plus now MCO cannot go to touch up.
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Sorry. But i'm interested to know more about this SG. Have to revive this old threads again.
You mentioned scratches. Aren't their coating have hardness of a SiO2?? Was it 7H or 9H?
Do you notice any "spiderweb/circular" scratches cause by dirty mits when we washed our car?
After so long, are you satisfied with SG?

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i see sierraglow now offering blueframe 2.0.. is it the same like what you guys said many years ago...



 

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