Forumer you are complaining against: NOx4kill
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=450703

Item being sold/bought: LG 1943S 18.5' LCD

Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1664339&hl= [post #2]

GOT back my hutang RM20 back by 6-1-2012..
after waiting for a whole year for jz RM20..
Threat Close..as promised i wil delete his personal information.
Thnks for evry 1 and Mod for helping!

UPDATE 7-1-2012
happy new year to all Lyn member..
i m back frm vancation..
once i log in my lyn acc and open my PM, i saw this guy 's pm..
he told me that he had refund to me RM20..
he wish to close this case...
wah..i was so surprised that he still remember hutang me RM20 even more i had forget this story seen 1 year passs ago..
here is my point of view, "tat guy"plz reply me so i would close case:
1. dah lah 1 tahun, tiba tiba u cakap nak pulangkan rm20, dan terus memaksa* (opps,is meminta) i tutup case ini...dah 1 tahun baru pulang rm 20.... senang hati saya?
"If im wrong, i just admit it. "quote=NOx4kill,Jan 5 2012, 09:45 AM, wat u mean by "IF im wrong"? adakah u rasa tipu orang adalah salah satu perbuatan yang betul/legal dan dapat persetujuan dari tuhan???

2. menurut 'post' that guy, he was doing research in INDO seen 4jan2011-4jan 2012...ok fine,lets study this case's history...my case happend in 15-12-2010....jangka masa between 15/12 - 7/1 adalah sangat panjang, more that 2weeks time...macam mana u cakap u sebuk untill tak dapat jawap call saya dan pulangkan rm20? pi INDO do research kena duit banyak ri8? kenapa tak sanggup keluarkan Rm20 to me b4 u fly to the country?

3. i had check my bank acc on 6-1-2012 and u had refund me Rm20..but, this is not a money matter..u had use the same "selling LCD threat" to cheat me and 2 more lyn forumer, u ingat LYN ialah satu tempat yang senang bagi kemu untuk dapatkan duit secara durian runtuh ka? banyak lyn forumer adalah bodoh dan senang tipu dengan u letak beberapa gambar barangan palsu ka? senang dapat 3 mangsa dan dapat RM600(lccd Rm200 x 3) dalam 3 hari.. i could oso tell that i can refund RM20 t ur brother account right now..Rm20 saja, kenapa tak settle awal awal?[/size]

Sila jawap 3 soalan saya secara tepat dan i akan menutup kes ini...tq






Date of transaction: 11-12-2010 23:21:37

Details of the complaint :
09-12-2010 I saw he was selling the LCD in RM200...he reply oth ppl treat with this:
got LCD 19" brand LG. selling at RM200
but i dont have transport. Im at kuantan. can pos only. sry.
if u r intrested, pm me thanks.
09-12-2010 i had Pm he and asking the price for post to Johor
10-12-2010 he reply me and tole me RM280 with postage to johor
11-12-2010 i start nego with and finally i get RM200 with postage to Johor.
he sent me a wrong maybank acc number in lyn PM... then i get the correct acc number by his sms. He reply my sms and say will pack the LCD on Sunday and pos it by monday.
13-12-2010 Monday, i sms and ask bout the tracking number...but no respond frm the seller
14-12-2010 Tuesday, i called he and he say he din ever receive my money. I asked do he had m2u acc bt he say no. He say will go Maybank ATM machine check aft 2pm and pos the LCD right after he go and check the money. 4pm,i tried to call him many times and wana follow up the proses but he din pick-up the phone.

i tried call him many times but he din pick-up. Then i think i was cheated. I put my complaint here and wait for his response till 10pm today. After 10pm if still no response i go make police report.
If u dun1 sell me this LCD dy..please refund my $$$$ to me...
thnks

update 15-12-10
11.05am: Seller still din bank in tat money to me..waiting n waiting n waiting
02.38pm: Still din bank-in to me..waiting..waiting
07.27pm: Seller had bank-in Rm180 to me..as promise..i had delete those personal information ...he say will bank-in rm20 by 2mr/ friday...so still waiting for further de RM20...then i will close this thread~[/color]

update 16-12-2010
got another victim kena to Buy this LCD..same case wit me..dah bank-in but seller claim din receive $$..
i m still waiting for my RM20..

update 17-12-2010
Seller make refund to hou83...due a police report.. bt seller still din REFUND RM20 to me.
alamak..i think i might make a police report to force SELLER REFUND me RM20 dy..[/size][/color]

update 18-12-2010
on 15-12-2010 after bank in RM180 to my A/C the seller promised to bank in the balance RM20 to my A/C in two days time,but until today 18-12-2010 2:00 pm (the THIRD DAY)he still didn't bank in a single sen to my A/C,so I keep on calling him from 17-12-2010 night till today,he just ignored and didn't answer it,eventually he just swicthed off his cell phone.How bad the attitude is,just RM20 only .Now I know his working place ,so i might just FAX the above police report to his boss,if he still just ignored and doesn't respond to me and doesn't bank in the money by TODAY. BUAT MALULAH HANYA RM20 .

update 22-12-2010
Promise wana bank-in back me money cause tak sanggup bayar RM20 by 15/12...untill nw ady 1 week pun tak sanggup bayar rm20 to me..malunya...RM20 pun tak larat bayar...i will report this case to his TM Office Manager and reporting this Scammer..

Update 25-12-2010
Hohoho.. Merry Xmas..
to all my lyn friends.. today is Public Holiday..
But the Seller still busy and din ever pay back me RM20 to me..
hohoho..SAIFUL EZUDDIN...kalau tak sanggup bayar RM20 itu, juallah CPU hang..bodoh..RM20 pun tak larat bayar..Cakap kerja TM Senior Stuff..buat malu saja RM20 pun tak Sunggup Bayar..
ish ish ish~[/size][/color]

personal information :
Name : saiful EZUDDIN mohd ibrahim)
lyn member name: NOx4kill
Maybank Acc: ---[deleted]
No Tel: ---[deleted]
FB Acc: --[deleted]
Email: ---[deleted]
Location: ---

This post has been edited by neosx88: Jan 8 2012, 01:37 AM

got so many FB acc lorrr...

so he's trying to cheat????

last active is 5.24PM....ermmmm...

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This post has been edited by zhy323: Dec 14 2010, 08:55 PM

TS..sorry to hear that..
Last time COD with him on 10/12/10 for proc p4 3.0ghz..
then on 11/12/10..he went to my house to fix his mobo..i update BIOS for him and he pay for it coz help him..
yes..he is muslim guys..the pic that close-up it is the real picture of him..
he seems like nice guys..wen to my house about 1 hours and chat with me..
he said he just hired to work at Telekom office at kuantan town..
He also informed me that he stay at beserah area..
This is the details i give give to us TS..
BTW..this is his contact no..0122528630..buit sorry..i dun ask for his name..
anything pls PM me if u need any help..

salam..
hello all..
saya bukan penipu..
bukan cheater and bukan scammer..
today i have a lot of work !
its ok..
i can refund all the money that u gave. no worries. just pm me ur bank acc and delete all this nonsense thread.
saya makan gaji, klw jadi tokey saya bole jawab call and reply all ur messages.
thx

thnks for understanding for this..i tahu u ada kerja..
Now i had Pm u my acc number and hope u can transfer the $$ before 10pm
i will close this treat right after recieve the refund of RM200..
thanks~

bro, saya pun kerja mkn gaji jgk tapi takkan la kerja 8jam langsung tak boleh nak anta sms kot?

tak logik la~

apa2 pun, good luck for both of u guys~

for sure i will refund ur money or u still want the LCD ?
i dont have time today to pos the LCD.
But it seems that u really want ur money back.
Its ok, BUT, please delete all my picture and my other personal detail that u post.
please.

seen u r so busy..
i tink better i dun1 buy this LCD dy..
tq..
ya..i will delete those data and personal infomation right u had transfer back my money to me..
i had PM u my acc number and hope u taokeh besar can SMS me right after u had transfer the money to me and then i terus close this treat..
thnks`

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Added on December 14, 2010, 8:55 pm
yup bro,...thats true..
sibuk sampai tak ada masa mau tekan hp..
btw..thnks for reading this treat..
nw i am waiting he to transfer back my money and then will solve this case dy~

This post has been edited by neosx88: Dec 14 2010, 08:55 PM

Whats wrong with u ?
can we meet ?
i sure can give ur money. But, ur word.. aiyo..

To all forumer..pls let TS and seller to settle it nicely..
dun put any word that might threat as "FIRE STONE"..

haha.. bro, xpe xpe..
dah nk setel pun.. salah fhm jek kot.

soli la bro..
bahasa saya lemah sikit..
harap u boleh pay me back the money then kita boleh settle masalah ini..

This post has been edited by neosx88: Dec 14 2010, 09:00 PM

in b4 ATM/ CDM out of service

haha..as bro Safone said:
Give seller and me some time..
he promise me to bank-in $$ to me by 2mr..

haha..hopefully kuantan's All Maybank ATM machine are available all the time..
i believe Seller is a good man..
hope he fast bank-in to me~

Dah tahu sibuk sgt kenape berjanji? Kenapa tak respond? Kenapa Senyap je? Dah jadi macam ni, nak salahkan buyer. Be professional la bro next time. Most of buyer in here semua kerja makan gaji. Semoga kes ni jadi pengajaran pada TS dan seller serta kite semua.

Stating busy is an excuse for me, if cannot handle don't sell, you bring trouble to people only.

so dia dah bank in ke belum?

kita tunggu TS update

latest update: 11.05am
Seller still din bank in the money to me..
i am waiting to his $$

Since he is too busy to send your items, he will be too busy to bank in for you too.

The case is not close yet, now is me, here the story:


Dec 13 2010, 07:14 PM

I ask about the LCD price included postage and he ask me offer him i said RM180, at last he reply my pm state RM200, i said ok but i urgent to get the LCD.


Dec 14 2010, 12:xx AM

I ask him about the condition and picture about LCD, then he said don't know how to put at forum, then i ask him can show me? at last he gave me MSN account and i chat with him on MSN looking about his LCD picture triple and confirm his account number and name ensure all right, i said will do a bankin for him and get his number (0122528630).


Dec 14 2010 12:50 PM

He sms me ask wherever i already do bankin for him, because i been meeting then at last i do banking for him on 4:33PM, a time as receipt state below and send him a lowyat message included my receipt as well.




Dec 14 2010 4:54 PM

He reply me following message:

as i check in the bank. the money is not in yet. its ok. once the money in i let u know. thx. maybe it takes time for hong leong to maybank.


Dec 14 2010 9:08 PM

I send him message ask wherever he received money and send me a LCD, he reply me he at office didnt check 2nd time, so i reply tell him i gave him 1 more chance settle it today and send me the LCD and gave me the parcel Tracking code, he promised me.

Dec 15 2010 3PM+

I call him he said he still state that he no received money yet, ask me go check on bank and i do so i check the bank and them indicate transaction successful, then i call him he didnt pick a call.

Today, 06:55 PM

I pm him said i already confirm transaction is successful, then i said he didnt get is his problem and i want my LCD tommorow or either refind back to me, or else i will take action on him by report police, then he reply me this:

hello bro, i did check at maybank. there's no money at all. i did check man. Easy, once the money in, i refund to you back. the thing is, no money was in. thx. u want make a report ? go ahead. im not scared because, im did not do anything wrong.


Today, 07:37 PM

Then i reply him back i will take action on him, he reply me 'Go Ahead'


I didn't realize got people been con by him, unless just now my staff show me, i now gave him chance to refund me or either send me LCD, but this his style that respond me.

This post has been edited by hou83: Dec 15 2010, 08:05 PM

lol what kind of attitude is this?

u think holding other people's hard earn money is an issue of "nonsense"?

ts....put back all his details and put dateline.This is serious.

since he want me to log the police files then i had no choice but to report police to let them handle it

it seems he like to play2 huhhhhh....



This post has been edited by vistaman: Dec 15 2010, 09:17 PM

Bro hou83..
as per i know..if make transaction between 2 diff bank..it will take time either 2-3 days to clear it.
so the receiver will c it after that time..
he already PMed to me and said that he still dun c any money in his bank acc.
i told him to c me either 2mrw or on friday and get printed transaction from 8/12 to 16/12 or 17/12 with maybank and show me for evidence..
i will try to check and settle it for u..

hello bro, saf0ne no me very well..
i already check my acc..
there is no money in at all.
i did respond ur call n messages.
i told u that once the money in, i'll post the LCD.
If u paste here the slip oso u think i will trust u ?
Got a lot of software can edit that shit la.
i alread refun Neox money. thanks.
and he already call me just 10 minuts ago.

ya..seller had been transfer rm180 to me..
bt still hutang RM20 for me..
please inform me aft u bank in..

my acc kosong. so dier amik rm20.
mmg tak bole keluarkan.

Another seller with bad attitudr.
Wonder if there's dupe around..*look up look down look right look left*
the transfer between diff bank will take two working days IF its friday, after 4pm i think? Cant rmmbr exact time. This is for maybank to other bank lah.

Btw, PLEASE refund rm20 to TS! Thickfacelah u, hold ppl's rm20 for so long!
I think if after a while also havent refund, TS should put back his details, to help the other victim.

why so many excuses bro? tak malu ke? if it was me i would just borrow rm20 from someone so that i can close the case. be professional la kalau nak jual. takde masa, just say sorry and refund the full amount. semua orang pun bz. semua orang pun ade macam2 hal.

That depends on which bank & at what time you did the interbank transfer.

One of my WiFiSKY customer did an Interbank Transfer on Wednesday 15 December 2010 at 9.30AM from Hong Leong Bank to Maybank and the money has been transferred to my Maybank account in less than 1 hour.
Nope, I'm not joking.

You be the judge.

Before that i already gave him chance go to bank next day and settle this case and send me the LCD at the same day gave me the tracking code after mail me because i urgent use and the LCD, summore LCD is brought under my company by my boss and i needed it faster by tell him understand my situation, and he agree me and said sure and he understand, but at last when next day he still same tell me he didnt get money, ask me go check on bank and i did it, i go to bank and ask them tell me the transaction banking online 3rd Party GIRO between 2 bank is no few day required, will be done less then 24 hour automatically if i do transaction on business day and hour exept if transaction is made within weekend day which is friday night ~ sunday then only will need to wait until at least monday because bank didn't work on saturday and sunday. But see a date of my transaction, i do a transaction on tuesday 4pm+ so actually he will get money in hour or at least wednesday, but how come he still didn't get money even on wednesday at 4pm+? i also did do a bankin with many seller here which use maybank as well but them didn't have such problem said never get a money, i ask about status of transaction and staff tell me the about my transaction is successful, then i gave him alot of advice and that a last chance i gave him but he seems do nothing still keep said he didn't get money and refuse to send me the LCD , and later when i about to tell him i want get refund today then my staff saw this threads and inform me prehaps i been cheat, ask me warning him by send him message to send a LCD or either refund back the money by tommorow, so i send him a message ask and warn him to send me LCD or if don't have any LCD then refund back to me tommorow and if he failed to do so or i will report police and hope he don't make me lost trust on him but what reply me and make me feel angry is his attitute like that want to challenge me about report police said he no do wrong, then i try gave him chance said one more time that is he really want me do like this and his reply is Go ahead and i send him messsage said since he ask me do so then i will be no sorry to him but to lodge the case to police then he reply my pm is okay, i already be good to gave him chance but you can see what he attitute that reply me now really unacceptable. Since i already gave him warning and he want challenge me on that so i had no choice and my boss want me to lodge his case to police, below here the scanner of my police lodge on him, after that i send him the message along the scan of my police lodge said i already lodge the case to police, you know what he reply me? here what he reply me.


hello bro, i can make a report also la bro..
u think u the want can make report ?
hey, i got other work to do la.
i already check and there none !!!!!!!
understand me ?
u think from Hong Leong to Maybank take 1 day to transfer ?
Are u dumb ?
As i said, once the money in i promise u that the LCD will be post.
But the think came bad, and i will refund u the money once the money in !
for god sake, im NOT A SCAMMER OR A CONMAN !!



This post has been edited by hou83: Dec 16 2010, 06:20 AM

Nice move hou83.. let see what his respond on this.. pegang duit org berlagak berlakon konon duit tak masuk.. i guess he already used ur money for refund TS, so u maybe need to wait for his other victim to deposit him, then only he refund u back.

yup..,never let go dis person...very bad altitude.....

worst cust service...

dont knw how to deal in online banking..better dont do biznz laa..

MEMALUKAN




HARAM laa kalau makan duit orang...B****

the way he replies, really has no remorse or anything.
if only he is polite enough...im sure TS will not be this furious. if me also i will be crazilymad la. dahla bigtimeLIAR, then dead rude!
someone make poster/banner la for him. lets spread his details around, so noone will get troubled anymore.
*palmface*

this is him r dude?

He already banking full amount next day sooner after i lodge case to police, can said my case can be close now, since that day he last message he didn't online, now i think nd wonder that prehaps he don't have any LCD to sell and just try to cheat money from forumer, anyway my case is settle, hope will gave him a lesson think that even internet cheat is Jenayah Case and can get caught once report, and any person have such problem better first is lodge case at police station show him the scan, plus actually i not normal person easy get cheat, even i didn't report i can track the person i want out use many way And one more thing is Setapak Police Station actually just few walk away from my house as my house . Thanks all lowyat member that help me, i appreaciate it.

Glad to hear that bro.. and we know he will refund u at last.

proabably yes...

coz i got so many email from his profile..

created so many FB..dun know y..

so from there..we knew that he want to cheat..

if this case settled soon..so i will take it out...cheersssss

pusing tak lepas
bikin malu aja
better delete your lyn id liar

congrats hou83..u can get back all ur money..bt seller still hutang me rm20

so i m waiting the RM20...
i think i might go make a police report and ask police officer call him then maby he just will pay back Rm20..
although rm20 nt a big amount..bt still money a..can eat 4 set of Mcdonal McValue dy leh...
So Seller plz REFUND ME rm20 asap......

This post has been edited by neosx88: Dec 17 2010, 10:33 AM

Yes.. do what ever u want. it is YOUR MONEY.

Gudluck buddy.

till today the seller still didn't bank in RM20 to my A/C.

OMG

RM20... berjanggut la tunggu. I didn't expect to read this kind of thread in this forum. Just happily browsing through pc/hardware things. rupa-rupanya..

Now I have to be EXTRA carefull..

Well, at least we know he still online today..

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i dont think he will bother this again.. he might thinking "alaaaaa... only 20, small matter la.. ppl will not having problem to deal with him with that kind small money"

if like that we can spoil his sales thread and just tell him turn left and stop con ppl money

true..
lets us protect LYN de trade zone..
don lets this kind of FFK ppl con ppl $$$ in here..
nw realy need beware of "New Member"..aizzzz....


This post has been edited by neosx88: Dec 24 2010, 02:17 PM

walaupun conman tu bz..masih dpt surf lyn...

buat malu jer org mcm ko nie.....

betul cakap ni..
kalau sibuk..mengapa boleh surf lyn?
nak cari mangsa lain ke?
duit yg tipu tu tak cukup lagi ke?
buat malu je..
RM20 pun tak sanggup bayar..
ayah saya akan bring forword this case kepada Syarikat TM Malaysia regarding stuff mereka yang berperangai Penipu..
apa yang hang si penipu buat..tuhan tahu..tunggulah balasan daripadanya..

Merry Xmas to all lyn friends~

no updates on the rm20 yet?

RM20 kasi buat pahal la ^^. MERRY CHRISTMAS ALL

hi friends..
no updates frm me dy
RM20 still din get frm the CHEATER..
so my dad said wana make the report to his Working Company-TM Malaysia..C wat action will take by the TM company..
Rm20 saja pun tak erti bayar..

His details has been added to the list.

no update on this case? Seller willing to blacklist his name for just RM20? ....

dec until now? not yet refund? hmmmm

Wow!! Surely this guy and many more are nothing...but LIARS and CONMAN..!!

Hmm, that's why i have NEVER bought anything online from anyone who doesnt own a big company, and knows only how to talk big. Dont be deceived anymore fellow friends here and everywhere...

TOLONG JADI LEBIH BIJAK SIKIT ye, kawan2 sekalian...

My god, is only RM20.00. I believe he got a bad reputation whereby no people dare to borrow him money. RM20 for his character is damn stupid cheap. Such a loser, do not have RM20 in the pocket and is working in telekom some more. Serve him right.

RM 20 ?? just give them to eat mcdonald la ..its not a big amount even its still money..haiyaa..
im losing rm700 noe still waiting police to investigate my case..juz pray to ALLAH s.w.t and dat man will get caught sooner or later.

duhhh bro.. Rm20 .. refund je lakat TS.. kan sng cite.. kwn yg hutang ngn Rm1.7k pun boleh settlekan dlm mase terdekat walaupun tgh xde duit.. nie kan Rm20 .. refund je la bro.. xjadi kaya pun bro =) ^^

lol wat ashame to seller..don give this Lowyat forum bad name la....

i think even Ah Long also blacklisted him from making loan which they ads gerenti lulus...

is this him? http://www.facebook.com/nox4kill

This post has been edited by liquidvamp: Sep 25 2011, 03:15 AM

seller was *******, RM20 also not refund and many excuse. Even if he no money, the original deal was create by him so he nd responsible ma... why holding ppl RM20 here and show some bad attitude even... maybe TS shud write seller's hp number at behind those public toilet door give gay ppl service and pay to him for the service, sure was afford RM20 to pay back.

Banyak nye batu api
But nvm.. just came back from indon. Stayed there for 1 year coz of my research.

Allrite, already paid the "hutang". Sorry for the long long time. Neox88 or NEO SOON HUAT, please check ur pm.

If im wrong, i just admit it.

Kindly delete this thread.

Thank you.

U said that but after checking, none of your posts in 2011 posted from Indonesia. Anyway, TS, plz confirm the amount refunded. Tq

Hmmm ? Bro, im at indonesia start from 4th january 2011. Need TS confirmation?

What if TS doenst online ? this stupid thread will be here all the time ?

Im not complaining, just mau clear nama.

LOL with RM20

Yes. need his confirmation, as i can check, his last online is yesterday, so he will online. not like u who may online all the time but takes 1 year to refund RM20. So, its not as easy as that.

haiizzz .. ckp mcm la tak bole elok2 kan ?
baru moderator

Depends on what bank. I know a few banks got something like express transfer for interbanking meaning the funds will be credited instantly and not have to wait 1-2 days. Usually this express fund interbank transfer got higher charge compare to normal interbank transfer.

So any problem with it mate? Which part is not true there?

This post has been edited by Apis_LuaLua: Jan 5 2012, 02:53 PM

yes i may online once awhile. Tapi klw yea pn, perlu ke nk malu kan aku ?
moderator shud act mcm polis kan ? adil ? think

its ok, aku tggu TS. I follow the rules.

Kau yg malukan diri sendiri, kau nak ckp org lain? yes, rule is rule. Tunggu mangsa kau tu confirmkan betul tak die dpt duit tu baru citer lain. Kalau die bole tggu kau setahun, baru sehari kau nak bising?

And bila lak moderator jadi mcm polis?

orite. takpe2. mulut bole bekata kata. Citer lain ? ade citer lain ke ? nk taw jgk..

ni dh byr k blum ni? lau dh byr rm20 suruh je mod ttp topic ni

Open 3rd Party Transfer

Reprinted on 06 Jan 2012 10:59:28

Status: Successful
Reference number: 1585696896
Transaction date: 05 Jan 2012 09:40:40
Amount: RM20.00
To Open 3rd Party Account : 101039527837
Account Holder Name : NEO SOON HUAT





sudah bro. Tp mod ikut rules. ape bole buat ..

This post has been edited by NOx4kill: Jan 6 2012, 11:05 AM

Ye. Sabar separuh daripada iman. Teruskan bersabar ok. Org boleh bersabar dengan kau, takkan kau baru mcm ni dah tak sabar?

I would not agree for this topic to be deleted. It's up to the people to judge but it will be closed to show that you refunded TS RM20 ONLY after 1 year?!

If everyone does this, then forever he/she will not be known for defaulting once he refunded. So what's the purpose of this section?!

Yes i understand 100% the purpose of this thread. Butm i already refund the money. If i knew it would take so long to delete, i just dun care
to TS.

Reconsider please. thx.

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Added on January 6, 2012, 5:21 pmyup sure. sabar jln terbaik

thanks.

This post has been edited by NOx4kill: Jan 6 2012, 05:21 PM

You just proved how insincere you are!

So you are concurring by dragging your responsibilities off for the past 1 year is the right thing and you feel no remorse?!

@apis,
This topic remain as it is. Once you get confirmation from TS refunds had been done. Just ask him to close this topic. But this topic will forever remain in Dispute corner.

neox88

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