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Fantasia
post Dec 19 2010, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(SKisaGooner @ Dec 18 2010, 10:59 PM)
1) i7 & nVidia 435M or i5 & nVidia 420M?

An extra RM 500 can get you:

i5-460M to i7-740QM,
nVidia 420M to 435M,
500GB to 640GB storage

Is it worth it? And also, will it consume more battery power? I personally feel that it's a bit of an overkill.

2) 720p screen or 1080p screen?


I've calculated. The 720p screen would give the laptop of about 100 DPI. the 1080p screen would be 140+ DPI. Is the 1080p screen worth the RM 411? And how will the screen affect gaming, and videos?

3) 6 cell battery or 9 cell battery?

More battery power is certainly welcomed, the extra RM 103 shouldn't be stopping it. But the 9 cell gives the laptop an elevation. Good or bad?

4) 4GB, 6GB or 8GB RAM?

I'll be using the laptop for college. I play casual games like FIFA, and maybe some FPS and Warcraft. Am certainly not a hardcore gamer. Please advise.
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1. It is up to what are you going to do with your laptop. If you are going to use ur laptop to photoshop or rendering then of course it worth for the price + it allow you to configurate with better GPU as well, crucial if you are crazy about gaming in detail although GT435M is not as good as other gaming laptop but it still pretty impressive.
2. 1080p gives u larger working space. I personally do not mind to scale down the resolution if the GPU is not powerful enough to drive the game since I cannot notice the difference (this is very subjective). Some may think that 1080p in 15" screen is not suitable but I find it okay.
3. Elevation is good to help your laptop in cooling. However, the elevation may make your laptop look ugly if you mind.
4. Unless you are using engineering software or photo and video editing software, 4GB should be sufficient for you.

This post has been edited by Fantasia: Dec 19 2010, 12:08 AM
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post Dec 19 2010, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Dec 19 2010, 12:06 AM)
1. It is up to what are you going to do with your laptop. If you are going to use ur laptop to photoshop or rendering then of course it worth for the price + it allow you to configurate with better GPU as well, crucial if you are crazy about gaming in detail although GT435M is not as good as other gaming laptop but it still pretty impressive.
2. 1080p gives u larger working space. I personally do not mind to scale down the resolution if the GPU is not powerful enough to drive the game since I cannot notice the difference (this is very subjective). Some may think that 1080p in 15" screen is not suitable but I find it okay.
3. Elevation is good to help your laptop in cooling. However, the elevation may make your laptop look ugly if you mind.
4. Unless you are using engineering software or photo and video editing software, 4GB should be sufficient for you.
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1) Is the RM 500 upgrade considered cheap? I don't really need it, but if it's dirt cheap I could use it.
2) 1080p is overkill. 720p.
3) Hmm, I think I wouldn't prefer the elevation. Just isn't what a laptop looks like. I'd wouldn't be moving it around TOO much anyway. 6 cell.
4) I multitask and I would not like to be slowed down. I'm considering 6GB or 8GB.

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post Dec 19 2010, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(SKisaGooner @ Dec 18 2010, 10:59 PM)
1) i7 & nVidia 435M or i5 & nVidia 420M?

An extra RM 500 can get you:

i5-460M to i7-740QM,
nVidia 420M to 435M,
500GB to 640GB storage

Is it worth it? And also, will it consume more battery power? I personally feel that it's a bit of an overkill.

2) 720p screen or 1080p screen?


I've calculated. The 720p screen would give the laptop of about 100 DPI. the 1080p screen would be 140+ DPI. Is the 1080p screen worth the RM 411? And how will the screen affect gaming, and videos?

3) 6 cell battery or 9 cell battery?

More battery power is certainly welcomed, the extra RM 103 shouldn't be stopping it. But the 9 cell gives the laptop an elevation. Good or bad?

4) 4GB, 6GB or 8GB RAM?

I'll be using the laptop for college. I play casual games like FIFA, and maybe some FPS and Warcraft. Am certainly not a hardcore gamer. Please advise.
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1. Battery power = gone. i7 does not have an integrated GPU so there's no Optimus with the i7.

2. It is definitely worth the RM411. General opinion would be 'go for it, it's damn well worth it', but my opinion, too many people are getting these B+RGLEDs not knowing the true potential behind them. The screen will lower your gaming FPS (more pixels for GPU to process), and videos, I don't think it'll be VERY big of an effect, but yeah. You get the point. More pixels = more processing = more load.

3. The elevation is good so that you get an angled keyboard (good for typing) and also improved airflow for the vents underneath. If you use a cooler though the 9 cell might get in the way.

4. Same thing with 1, but more is better, so it's up to you. I personally went for the 8GB, don't want to waste time upgrading it later on if I need it, so just went along with it.

Feel free to shoot any more questions you have. nod.gif
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post Dec 19 2010, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(SKisaGooner @ Dec 18 2010, 10:59 PM)
1) i7 & nVidia 435M or i5 & nVidia 420M?

An extra RM 500 can get you:

i5-460M to i7-740QM,
nVidia 420M to 435M,
500GB to 640GB storage

Is it worth it? And also, will it consume more battery power? I personally feel that it's a bit of an overkill.

2) 720p screen or 1080p screen?


I've calculated. The 720p screen would give the laptop of about 100 DPI. the 1080p screen would be 140+ DPI. Is the 1080p screen worth the RM 411? And how will the screen affect gaming, and videos?

3) 6 cell battery or 9 cell battery?

More battery power is certainly welcomed, the extra RM 103 shouldn't be stopping it. But the 9 cell gives the laptop an elevation. Good or bad?

4) 4GB, 6GB or 8GB RAM?

I'll be using the laptop for college. I play casual games like FIFA, and maybe some FPS and Warcraft. Am certainly not a hardcore gamer. Please advise.
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1. if u need the power or if have the money, y not.........but then if u are going for core i7 ur battery life will not more than 2 hours but performance will be better with better gpu...

2. for screen resolution...if depends on u.....it is worth for the upgrade if u have the money.....for movie, if u are those hu like full hd movies....u definitely can fully utilize it......for gaming 720p is better because more gpu power is need to process game at 1080p

3. if u wan longer battery life then go for 9 cell.....if ur lappy are gonna stuck at home and seldom bring it around then 6 cell is enough...since u will be onli using at ur home with ac power supply at the time...

4) 4gb will be more than enough if you don use for virtual machine such as vmware or virtualbox or even some program that use such almost of ram.....u can upgrade it to 8gb later on when u nid them...
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post Dec 19 2010, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(TheWandererX @ Dec 19 2010, 01:37 AM)
1. Battery power = gone. i7 does not have an integrated GPU so there's no Optimus with the i7.

2. It is definitely worth the RM411. General opinion would be 'go for it, it's damn well worth it', but my opinion, too many people are getting these B+RGLEDs not knowing the true potential behind them. The screen will lower your gaming FPS (more pixels for GPU to process), and videos, I don't think it'll be VERY big of an effect, but yeah. You get the point. More pixels = more processing = more load.

3. The elevation is good so that you get an angled keyboard (good for typing) and also improved airflow for the vents underneath. If you use a cooler though the 9 cell might get in the way.

4. Same thing with 1, but more is better, so it's up to you. I personally went for the 8GB, don't want to waste time upgrading it later on if I need it, so just went along with it.

Feel free to shoot any more questions you have.  nod.gif
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1. I think I'll stick to the modest i5 then.

2. I still don't see the need for 1080p. The greater PPI would be really nice, but that's it really.

3. This article that I found while googling really convinced me to get a 9 cell. And so I think I would.

4. 6GB is a weird figure, but I think 4 isn't enough and 8 is overkill.
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post Dec 19 2010, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(SKisaGooner @ Dec 19 2010, 10:24 PM)
1. I think I'll stick to the modest i5 then.

2. I still don't see the need for 1080p. The greater PPI would be really nice, but that's it really.

3. This article that I found while googling really convinced me to get a 9 cell. And so I think I would.

4. 6GB is a weird figure, but I think 4 isn't enough and 8 is overkill.
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i5 is definitely the best choice. Not many applications fully utilize quad cores yet, anyway. But if you want something more future-proof at the expense of atrocious battery life, then go for it. Weigh your options carefully (:

Don't forget, it is a B+RGLED. I'll get a little technical here: WLEDs can only show 60+-% of the total color gamut (color range) of Adobe RGB, while B+RGLED can show almost 100% of the total color gamut. Layman's terms, colors are more realistic and vibrant on the B+RGLED compared to the WLED. There's a lot of differences between the two but it might even go unnoticed apart from the sharper, pop-pier pictures displayed by the B+RGLED.

Also, 6GB is not recommended. No dual channel as it is on 1x4 and 1x2 so it's a waste of the 2GB stick. Want more, go straight for the 8GB. Don't forget, you can always upgrade an extra 4GB stick yourself, it's as simple as ABC. 5 minutes to Digital Mall or even search the forums for a RAM seller, get a stick, plug it in. Problem solved.
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post Dec 19 2010, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(TheWandererX @ Dec 19 2010, 10:29 PM)
i5 is definitely the best choice. Not many applications fully utilize quad cores yet, anyway. But if you want something more future-proof at the expense of atrocious battery life, then go for it. Weigh your options carefully (:

Don't forget, it is a B+RGLED. I'll get a little technical here: WLEDs can only show 60+-% of the total color gamut (color range) of Adobe RGB, while B+RGLED can show almost 100% of the total color gamut. Layman's terms, colors are more realistic and vibrant on the B+RGLED compared to the WLED. There's a lot of differences between the two but it might even go unnoticed apart from the sharper, pop-pier pictures displayed by the B+RGLED.

Also, 6GB is not recommended. No dual channel as it is on 1x4 and 1x2 so it's a waste of the 2GB stick. Want more, go straight for the 8GB. Don't forget, you can always upgrade an extra 4GB stick yourself, it's as simple as ABC. 5 minutes to Digital Mall or even search the forums for a RAM seller, get a stick, plug it in. Problem solved.
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In what situation would I need more than 4GB RAM? And I thought laptop RAM's cannot be changed?
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post Dec 19 2010, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(SKisaGooner @ Dec 19 2010, 11:52 PM)
In what situation would I need more than 4GB RAM? And I thought laptop RAM's cannot be changed?
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I'm not too sure about that. I can't exactly gauge an 'average'. If you don't mind, go for the 4GB and upgrade only if necessary. That way you save money and also save effort.

Yes, they are changeable. Borrowed from a fellow member wolfkodi's blog (warning, big image):

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


This is the little panel which you can open up and the memory module slots are right underneath it. And just a tip, RAM gets hot, that's why there are vents for airflow there.

Don't worry about installing it, if you bring your laptop to an IT shop they'll gladly do it free for you. At least, that's what I've experienced.
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QUOTE(SKisaGooner @ Dec 19 2010, 11:52 PM)
In what situation would I need more than 4GB RAM? And I thought laptop RAM's cannot be changed?
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yeahh....js bought a new cooler master u3 frm pc expo thr....^^
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QUOTE(TheWandererX @ Dec 19 2010, 10:29 PM)
Don't forget, it is a B+RGLED. I'll get a little technical here: WLEDs can only show 60+-% of the total color gamut (color range) of Adobe RGB, while B+RGLED can show almost 100% of the total color gamut. Layman's terms, colors are more realistic and vibrant on the B+RGLED compared to the WLED. There's a lot of differences between the two but it might even go unnoticed apart from the sharper, pop-pier pictures displayed by the B+RGLED.
From my experience it made a significant difference as all my relatives and friends I've shown my laptop to commented upon how vibrant/beautiful the pictures viewed on the screen are. You will notice the difference if you view images or watch movies often, especially pictures which have a wide colour spectrum.

I've read about those RGBLED screens with way over 100% Adobe color gamut representation making windows and other non-imaging applications appear oversaturated. If this is still the case then, B+RGLED screens are a great compromise because they do not present this issue.


Added on December 20, 2010, 7:32 am
QUOTE(TheWandererX @ Dec 19 2010, 11:57 PM)
Yes, they are changeable. Borrowed from a fellow member wolfkodi's blog (warning, big image):

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


This is the little panel which you can open up and the memory module slots are right underneath it. And just a tip, RAM gets hot, that's why there are vents for airflow there.
Oh, I didn't know memory modules are underneath that. Did you actually unscrew that to have a look at it? rclxms.gif I only know know that the hard drive is only accessible after removing the keypad which can be troublesome. sad.gif

This post has been edited by Alpha Wolf: Dec 20 2010, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(TheWandererX @ Dec 19 2010, 10:29 PM)
i5 is definitely the best choice. Not many applications fully utilize quad cores yet, anyway. But if you want something more future-proof at the expense of atrocious battery life, then go for it. Weigh your options carefully (:

Don't forget, it is a B+RGLED. I'll get a little technical here: WLEDs can only show 60+-% of the total color gamut (color range) of Adobe RGB, while B+RGLED can show almost 100% of the total color gamut. Layman's terms, colors are more realistic and vibrant on the B+RGLED compared to the WLED. There's a lot of differences between the two but it might even go unnoticed apart from the sharper, pop-pier pictures displayed by the B+RGLED.

Also, 6GB is not recommended. No dual channel as it is on 1x4 and 1x2 so it's a waste of the 2GB stick. Want more, go straight for the 8GB. Don't forget, you can always upgrade an extra 4GB stick yourself, it's as simple as ABC. 5 minutes to Digital Mall or even search the forums for a RAM seller, get a stick, plug it in. Problem solved.
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Rules to Enable Dual Channel Mode
To achieve Dual Channel mode, the following conditions must be met:

Matched DIMM configuration in each channel
Same Density (128MB, 256MB, 512MB, etc.)
Matched in both Channel A and Channel B memory channels
Populate symmetrical memory slots (Slot 0 or Slot 1)
Configurations that do not match the above conditions will revert to Single Channel mode.

The following conditions do not need to be met:
Same brand
Same timing specifications
Same DDR speed
Memory channel speed is determined by the slowest DIMM module populated in the system.

Flex mode
This mode provides the most flexible performance characteristics. The bottommost DRAM memory (the memory that is lowest within the system memory map) is mapped to dual channel operation; the topmost DRAM memory (the memory that is nearest to the 8 GB address space limit), if any, is mapped to single channel operation. Flex mode results in multiple zones of dual and single channel operation across the whole of DRAM memory. To use flex mode, it is necessary to populate both channels.

Memory Configuration for Flex Mode
The use of flex mode requires DIMMs to be installed in both channels.

The figure below shows a flex mode configuration using two DIMMs. The operation is as follows:

The 512 MB DIMM in the Channel A, DIMM 0 socket and the lower 512 MB of the DIMM in the Channel B, DIMM 0 socket operate together in dual channel mode.
The remaining (upper) 512 MB of the DIMM in Channel B operates in single channel mode.


Single, dual, triple and flex memory modes, click here
Unified RAM Field Theory, click here
Having 6GB upgrade doesn't lose all dual channel capability.
Flex mode can be enabled if the mobo supports it which allows partial dual channel support.

This post has been edited by J.J: Dec 20 2010, 09:53 AM
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yeahh....js bought a new cooler master u3 frm pc expo thr....^^
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planning to get 1 ... how much for your u3?

currently on 9cell batt+elevation. duno if i put the U3 , how the laptop will look like.. should be very weird since the elevation is kinda high.
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I supposed it'll be over-elevated as the elevation provided by U3 is quite high. (I would say the highest part of U3 is about 3cm off the ground)

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QUOTE(Alpha Wolf @ Dec 20 2010, 07:23 AM)
From my experience it made a significant difference as all my relatives and friends I've shown my laptop to commented upon the vibrant/beautiful the pictures viewed on the screen are. You will notice the difference if you view images or watch movies often, especially pictures which have a wide colour spectrum.

I've read about those RGBLED screens with way over 100% Adobe color gamut representation making windows and other non-imaging applications appear oversaturated. If this is still the case then, B+RGLED screens are a great compromise because they do not present this issue.
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Does 1080p comes with any drawbacks? What would my desktop resolution become? That B+RGLED thing seems very nice.
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QUOTE(SKisaGooner @ Dec 20 2010, 12:50 PM)
Does 1080p comes with any drawbacks? What would my desktop resolution become? That B+RGLED thing seems very nice.
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smaller text ?
1920x1080...
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anybody experience a vibrating feeling whenever they slide their hands along the outer surface?
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QUOTE(chiew9390 @ Dec 20 2010, 11:20 AM)
planning to get 1 ... how much for your u3?

currently on 9cell batt+elevation. duno if i put the U3 , how the laptop will look like.. should be very weird since the elevation is kinda high.
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i get it for RM85.... ya....it would be quite weird if u're puttin 9 cell battery...
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QUOTE(Alpha Wolf @ Dec 20 2010, 07:23 AM)
From my experience it made a significant difference as all my relatives and friends I've shown my laptop to commented upon the vibrant/beautiful the pictures viewed on the screen are. You will notice the difference if you view images or watch movies often, especially pictures which have a wide colour spectrum.

I've read about those RGBLED screens with way over 100% Adobe color gamut representation making windows and other non-imaging applications appear oversaturated. If this is still the case then, B+RGLED screens are a great compromise because they do not present this issue.


Added on December 20, 2010, 7:32 am

Oh, I didn't know memory modules are underneath that. Did you actually unscrew that to have a look at it? rclxms.gif I only know know that the hard drive is only accessible after removing the keypad which can be troublesome.  sad.gif
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RGBLED was and is quite overkill, IMHO. Btw, what do you mean by 'B+RG screens are a great compromise'? Forgive me for asking, I'm not quite sure what you meant by that.

QUOTE(J.J @ Dec 20 2010, 09:15 AM)
Having 6GB upgrade doesn't lose all dual channel capability.
Flex mode can be enabled if the mobo supports it which allows partial dual channel support.
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Note in the first line of the quoted text: you have to have the same density to be able to achieve full dual channel.

QUOTE(SKisaGooner @ Dec 20 2010, 12:50 PM)
Does 1080p comes with any drawbacks? What would my desktop resolution become? That B+RGLED thing seems very nice.
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1920x1080. Icons and everything become really small, I would guess - I haven't got mine yet so I can't say exactly.

QUOTE(Casperwinde @ Dec 20 2010, 01:41 PM)
i get it for RM85.... ya....it would be quite weird if u're puttin 9 cell battery...
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Solution, take out the battery when you want to put it on the cooler. Then when you want to use it again, place it back.


Added on December 20, 2010, 1:47 pm
QUOTE(ubeyou @ Dec 20 2010, 12:51 PM)
weee, my lappy arrives tmr!
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Damn it, mine is still processing delivery date doh.gif the invoice says on or before 13/1. doh.gif doh.gif

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