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post Dec 17 2011, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Dec 16 2011, 05:11 PM)
UTP is 1 of the most prestigious University in OnG.. most of the graduates from there working in most of the big companies out there.. And their 8months internship is invaluable.. But if u arent in the University doesnt mean u cant get into the field, just that they prefer student from there smile.gif Petroleum engineer perhaps is much relevant in OnG sector if u are interested in drilling, exploration those.. Probably got more chance to get into Baker Hughes, Schlumberger, Haliburton this kind of big servicing company smile.gif Geophysicist is also good smile.gif I am UTAR graduate, which i study isnt really relevant to OnG, except for the metal, alloys, materials selection part.. also materials testing, corrosion this is related to piping and drilling.. but my result too suck to join big companies that doing this kind of things lol..
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I can tell you that there is nothing so special about utp students. We have been taking them for intership for the past 3 years. Only a handfull of them impress us.
Petroleum engineer is not about drilling alone. Its more about the understanding of fluids and reservoirs in surface/subsurface condition, which is very important for development purposes. And they are better off working with operators and consultants rather than big service company.


Added on December 17, 2011, 9:38 am
QUOTE(mecch @ Dec 16 2011, 11:01 PM)
anyone here know about working environment at Murphy Oil  hmm.gif ?based on own experience or heard from friends?

if I'm not mistaken they were contractor before now its an operator (client)...
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Murphy is an operator and always been since they came to malaysia early 2000.


Added on December 17, 2011, 9:41 am
QUOTE(clon12 @ Dec 17 2011, 01:01 AM)
So it would be better to graduate from UTP than other private college lah.... but need go through Form 6. hmm.gif
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Better still, a graduate from well known foreign university that has a good reputation in ong, like heriot watt in edinburgh.

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post Jan 10 2012, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(Them_Me_You @ Jan 10 2012, 10:18 AM)
Good day everyone,

I got a couple of questions here. Firstly, what is Petroleum Geoscience course and what does it deals with? Also, what is the prospect of a student who enrolled in the course to secure a job in oil and gas industry these days? Actually, I ask this on behalf of my cousin who will enrol in this course in UTP following the completion of his secondary school. I have a fair amount of knowledge about this course as I'm presently serving in the O&G industry, but still I want somebody out there who is currently in this field, add something to my basic knowledge.
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Geoscience is the study of geology, and in ONG case is study of subsurface geology to help find... well, ONG. There are 2 main division, geology and geophysicist. Under each division it will be branching out even more, but that is for you to find out.
In terms of prospect, I think it is really good. Every ONG company need geoscience people. And you got so many branch to choose from. Pay wise, It among the highest paid dsicipline in ONG (especially for office based job).

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post Jan 10 2012, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Jan 10 2012, 07:17 PM)

may i know if networking is really useful for fresh graduate engineers? i practically know nothing so i wont be useful to anyone haha
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Net working is only good if you yourself is good. I wont recommended anyone who suck, bring down my reputation only. I even dont simply recommend my coursemate if i know he/she cant do much.
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post Jan 11 2012, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(Mooi @ Jan 10 2012, 09:33 PM)
The dilemma for some of us fresh grads or soon-to-be fresh grads is that we don't have the cable or have yet to establish the connection yet. Other than gathering as much info as we can, we haven't known any or much people who are in the industry itself (unless u consider the forum posters tongue.gif).. so what are we supposed to do other than following the standard procedures - polishing up our resumes and dropping them at the HRs then waiting to be shortlisted for interviews??

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Thats true. Fresh grad will find it hard to networking. You can try during conference and stuff. Or through your seniors or lecturers.
When I applied for jobs after grad, I tailored my resume to fit with the jobscope that company wants. I also dont have any cable or networking that time.
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post Jan 14 2012, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(Grooveride @ Jan 13 2012, 03:02 PM)
Hi all,
I am trying to get a better picture of the O&G industry as an engineer. I think I have done my fair share of research but there are just some questions which I think are better answered by the insiders. Would really appreciate if you can spare some time to help me with these queries:
1) Am I right in saying that discipline engineers (chemical/process, mechanical etc.) working for the operator spends his/her time mainly in operations (i.e. maintaining the operator's assets) while those that are working with EPCs & consultants will do the design work?
2) For the subsurface engineering disciplines (reservoir, drilling etc.), what is the difference between working for an operator and a services company? Do they do the same thing (i.e. the services company are merely contracted to provide the additional engineering manpower to operators) or is it more towards the case of the services companies providing the engineering while the engineers who work for the operators will be responsible for managing, reviewing & checking the work done by the services companies?
3) This is probably going to be very subjective but would love to hear what you peeps think is the most interesting engineering role in the O&G?
4) I suppose this depends on the particular discipline that you are going for, but generally what is the ideal career path through the industry? Start and end with the operator?
Thanking you in advance.  notworthy.gif
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I dont have any insight on any engineering discipline except reservoir engineer. RE works in office, mainly doing dynamic simulation or reservoir monitoring. And they are in high demand right now. I cant recall if there is any RE in service company, i know its only in operators and consultants. Interms of career, as i mentioned its a very good prospect, and also very good money.
If you want to become RE, you have to take petroleum engineering course in uni. I know utp and utm offers that course.
One thing that i notice is most of students they only interested in engineering, hardly anyone asking about geoscience. Im not sure what is the perception now but during my uni geoscience was considered as a low class subject whre most of its students are engineering or medical reject. I can assure you that its not, and the work is as interesting as any enginnering work in ong industry. Above all, the demand is also very high, and the pay is excellent too.

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post Jan 14 2012, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(rabloo @ Jan 14 2012, 11:04 AM)
I reckon there are Reservoir Engineers in service companies because my friend works as a RE with Slb
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Yea but i guess your friend work in their consultancy arm. Slb is one big company any way, from service to consultancy.
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post Jan 17 2012, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(Grooveride @ Jan 15 2012, 10:24 PM)
Thanks so much for your response (even though it was only to one of the four questions  tongue.gif )...I was beginning to doubt that anyone would bother responding to me.

Anyway you've kinda read my mind ...I was actually thinking of reservoir engineering as well. From your experience, do you know if technically or career progression wise, will it be a barrier for someone who is not trained as a petroleum engineer? I am asking this because many graduate reservoir engineering roles that I have encountered are also open to people from the chemical and mechanical background and yes I do not have a petroleum background.

In response to geoscience, I don't really have a choice because I have already graduated cry.gif.
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I think the key points is to secure the job first. After that your education background is not as important as before, since people will look at your experience level instead.
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post Jan 30 2012, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(clon12 @ Jan 30 2012, 10:33 AM)
I see.. thanks for all the replies. How about MMU? Anyone from MMU here?
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For fresh grad, I only look at 4-5 local uni for geoscience. For RE/PE, around 2. For other discipline, never call anyone for interview yet.
Foreign cert can help, especially when it comes for a well known uni (Heriot Watt, Col School of mines, etc). But the results is more important. I always ask potential candidates to submit their full transcript to see if they are excel in the right and important subjects, not like gym class, or theater, or whatever.

But I always wonder, does IT or HR or procument/accountant in ONG pays substantially higher than other industry? Anyone can comment?
Since I thought the subsurface and some critical surface discipline (drillers, FE) paid really well because of limited resource.
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post Jan 31 2012, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(hj.pet @ Jan 30 2012, 11:41 PM)
r u saying that by having a b- gred for drilling eng won't make me a candidate for drilling eng post?. oh btw, i'm a pe student from utm  rclxub.gif
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Well, I have to look for other subjects too. But than again, you dont want to hire a geologist who got C for sedimentology, do you?
UTM is one of the uni that we look into for RE/PE candidates.
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post Jan 31 2012, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(hj.pet @ Jan 31 2012, 10:05 AM)
Can I say that u guys prioritise academic qualification regarding for specific job designation than the candidate's performance during the interview?
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No. Your academic qualification will get yourself an interview. Your performance in the inverview will differentiate between candidates and potential employee.


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QUOTE(noruazumi @ Jan 31 2012, 10:07 AM)
Local or oversea doesn't really matter much. As long as your cert is from accredited universities, it should be fine. However, there is a "unwritten" policy that they will only consider fresh grads from certain universities. I think if you are a grad from UTP (obviously), UTM & UM, you should be fine. I mention these 3 uni's because my friends/contacts are from these uni's.
And UM too, right? smile.gif
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Because these Unis have the courses that heavily involve with ONG industry.
Yes, UM too. And UKM, USM.

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post Feb 13 2012, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(saisamal @ Feb 13 2012, 02:38 PM)
Hi all, I was graduated in PE from UTP. Worked with a company as a Sales Engineer for a year. And now I have resigned and looking for a new job. I prefer a more technical job, that's the main reason why I quit (other than a few). Any suggestion for any vacancy? It's quite tough looking for a job now huh?
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Hows your performance in uni?
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post Feb 13 2012, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(buncho89 @ Feb 13 2012, 05:09 PM)
Hi guys, just wanna ask for your opinion. What's the career prospects of a mud logger under geoservices?

I've got a degree in chemical engineering and dunno whether i should work as a process engineer or mud logger...

Thanks!
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Dunno about now but few years ago mudlogger is the lowest paid position on rig. Prospect wise if you really good than you can be a wellsite geologist, quite good interms of payment. But thats about it.
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post Feb 15 2012, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(kebulan @ Feb 15 2012, 01:49 PM)
I had apply about 2 weeks already,just shooting CV to hr..all o&g companies in msia .. if im not mistaken about more than 70 companies..till now i still dont get any respond/interview..so normally how long it takes for them to review the cv?just asking..
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Alah, baru 2 weeks. I've waited for 3 months before being called for interview. My second job, it was from the application/cv that I sent A YEAR before.
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post Feb 17 2012, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(lovelyduckling @ Feb 16 2012, 11:19 PM)
Hey guys. I am kinda shortlisted to attend my first ever job interview around KL areas for an O&G company. The thing is, I am kinda "overseas" which requires me to fly to KL to attend the job interview (the flight tickets can go up to a few hundreds, if I book at last minute). So I am wondering,

- is it possible to ask or negotiate with the HR to reimburse (part of) my flight expenses? Or it is something ridiculous? Or any other ways to minimum the expenses I have to fork out as I am still a student?
Congrats and all the best with ur future smile.gif
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They should pay for it. Unless in your resume/cover letter, your address is some where around KL.
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post Feb 17 2012, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(hj.pet @ Feb 17 2012, 10:01 AM)
any idea guys?
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Whats your background mate?
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post Feb 17 2012, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(hj.pet @ Feb 17 2012, 10:19 AM)
petroleum eng
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RE cum petrophysicist? tongue.gif
Quite difficult to merge formation evaluation with PE. You can always merge G&G with Petrophysics, but havent meet anyone with your situation.
Mind to share why you didnt become PE instead?

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post Feb 17 2012, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(hj.pet @ Feb 17 2012, 10:29 AM)
yeah dats y i'm asking in this thread heheh i yet to know anyone with my situation (interest in formation evaluation but less interested in being a petrophysicist hehe) owh i didn't yet finish my study. still has another 1 sem to complete.

how about a lwd engineer? do they need a strong knowledge on formation evaluation? or just drilling? imo, formation evaluation -> petrophysicist or geology n geosciences career only, rite?
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Yeah, formation evaluation is more towards G&G.
LWD engineer so far that I know they did not need much knowledge in interpretation side of it (formation evaluation, etc). They are more into the physical part (assembly tools, prepare logging runs, etc). But anyone can correct me though.
But petrophysics is very, very rare, they are sought after.
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QUOTE(hj.pet @ Feb 17 2012, 11:08 AM)
petrophysicists spend most of the time at office interpreting log data, correct? ahahah office job seems uninteresting to me, but yeah totally agreed that it is one of the most sought after job. i do believe that lwd engineer is drilling engineer which like u said, more into the physical part of it.

so, can we conclude that formation evaluation -> g&g career path, rite?  biggrin.gif
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Yeah.
Office job isnt that bad. You will always got a chance to go to offshore in your early days (if you join operators though). Money wise is not bad also.

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post Feb 17 2012, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(hj.pet @ Feb 17 2012, 11:26 AM)
mind to share about urself mate? wanna gather as much as possible info to decide on which career path should i take once graduated later smile.gif
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Im a geomodeller, 10 years experience.
Was a development geologist when starting, and become a geomodeller ~4 years ago. Now with consultant.
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post Feb 17 2012, 01:02 PM

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Oversea company overseas? Might be difficult to get. Oversea company in Malaysia, that one is different story. Should have plenty of oppurtunity, esp subsurface people (to be honest I dont know about surface people).
But as what anyone has said before, just take whatever you got, and build your skills and reputation from there. After 3-4 years, you can try your luck in different company. After 5 years and above, companies will be looking for you. True story.

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