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tannyboy91
post May 11 2015, 12:43 AM

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Hi guys, I'm a fresh graduate (Bachelor of Business: Accounting) with a third class degree. I am just wondering if any big four or mid tier firms will even consider me. Guess I've failed in life. But I really want to join mid tier or big four firms so badly. Guess should have work harder sad.gif
tannyboy91
post May 11 2015, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ May 11 2015, 08:51 AM)
Get a professional qualification and work harder in life.

Don't just give up coz you got a crappy degree.
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Is possible to give it a shot to apply to the big four or mid tier firms. Probably they won't bother to even look at my resume anyways
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post May 11 2015, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(rachel7430 @ May 11 2015, 10:21 AM)
no harm trying to submit ur resume in.. u will never know luck is on your side..
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Guess I'll just give it a shot. Chances will be low. But then like what you said no harm trying tho.
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post May 11 2015, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ May 11 2015, 09:43 PM)
Write in already? Write in and try... or at least join a mid tier first and jump ship after u at least achieve senior title
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Havent. Just that the feeling of disappointment got me all moody and stuff. Probably they wont even bother looking at my resume tho but like what everyone said no harm trying so gotta do what I gotta do which is to submit the resume. But then no point crying over spilt milk so can only blame myself for not working my ass off for my studies previously
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post May 11 2015, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ May 11 2015, 10:07 PM)
With a 3rd class degree, unless the candidate can impress the partners, a bit hard to enter also.

Now a lot of degree holders, market damn competitive to entry level.

Might as well hide in a small firm, quickly pass CPA/ACCA then resurface with a much reputable qualification.
Don't fret about the past.

You can't do anything about it.

Look forward instead man.

Plan for your professional qualifications.
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I guess the only thing to do is don't be choosy and join a small firm or middle tier (might be hard as well was thinking of UHY, PVF, Moore stephens) . Then quickly get ACCA OR other professional qualification to boost own value.
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post May 11 2015, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ May 11 2015, 10:06 PM)
Have u worked as intern before? Will help at some point.
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Nope. My course doesnt require students to do internship so mostly people focus on just studying instead unless you chose to take up internship
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post May 12 2015, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ May 12 2015, 09:25 AM)
Join small firm, learn to do every single shit laugh.gif

From there, work hard to leap out to the bigger ocean much later.

Worse come to worse, you will enter Big 4 as experience hire instead of fresh entry  laugh.gif
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Do they take into account say the experience in a non accounting firm. Let's say I work like accounts executive in some corporate firm then at the same time pursue papers like ACCA then after finishing join big four or other middle tier firms

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post May 12 2015, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ May 12 2015, 03:45 PM)
Enter as Junior / Fresh grad.

Even with 3 years working experience in medium firms, they will likely discount your experience based on your exposure.

So if possible, find a firm that is filled with nice people, decent study leaves for you to study and quickly pass your exams.

Once you pass the exams, time for you to make the move to the big 4.
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Thanks for the feedback, but I actually meant working as accounts executive preparing ledgers and stuff etc in a NON accounting firm while pursuing my papers. Does the experience working with non accounting firms counts tho or I should just look for accounting firms of any sizes to work temporarily to increase my foundation and knowledge. Cuz ACCA requires 3 years working in accounting firms so fear that non accounting firms doesn't count. Correct me if I'm wrong. Still a freshie smile.gif

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post May 12 2015, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ May 12 2015, 08:41 PM)
It counts towards MIA membership.

It maybe nothing much compared to ACCA membership in the long run but it's better than nothing tongue.gif

Plus, if you have 3 relevant working experience, you might have to just endure the PER writeup to be a full member of the ACCA without the need to spend another 3 in Big 4.

But that's just my guess. I could be wrong and seniors here are in much better position to offer guidance.
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Ohh. my worries is that if i cant get to join big four or other middle tier accounting firms due to poor degree results then I have no choice but to join non accounting corporate firms to work as accounts executive and at the same time pursue my papers. Then if say i finished my ACCA papers then if my previous experiences in the non accounting firm doesnt count then i have to spend another 3 years to work in accounting firm all over again.

And one more question. I know my degree is not a good one (third class honours) but then if you or anyone here has any idea whether they can loosen their entry requirements) say maybe KPMg less strict than PWC etc. cuz I still wanna give a shot to apply.

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post May 12 2015, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ May 12 2015, 09:07 PM)
Trust me, small firm will still hire.

Heck, even diploma holders also they might take in some time.

All you gotta do is TRY.

Start drafting your resume, and start applying.

Jobstreet has plenty of opening.

Anyway, this is getting a little outta topic so I'm gonna stop here.

Good luck for your career pathway to Big 4 someday!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thank you so much for your time and useful feedback. Appreciate it. Take care my friend

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post Jun 4 2015, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(colintang99 @ Jun 4 2015, 05:03 PM)
Hello there. Just to let you know I too had a terrible results for my degree. It was really difficult to enter the Big 4 when I graduated. However, besides looking at purely academic reasons itself, the Big 4 do accept special cases too if you are able to showcase on what other strengths you can bring to the firm (i.e. willingness to learn, how you have learnt from your mistakes during degree days, etc).

Just to let you know, I am an ex-EY and PwC.  I was also on the PwC recruitment drives and assist recruitment for PwC couple of years back. I've subsequently taken up a regional role with a MNC. Don't be disheartened if you do not get in. But my suggestion is for you to keep trying and applying. Perhaps one way is also to attend the career fairs and drives. Speak to the recruiters face to face. Show them that you really want the job by showcasing your other talents (i.e communication skills, enthusiasm etc). They do take in too if they see potential in you.

Good luck!  thumbup.gif
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Thank you for the kind words and encouragement. Will keep trying and work towards it smile.gif
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post Jul 15 2015, 03:34 PM

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Just wondering when applying online for big four and middle tier firms, should i attach condition letter. My current cgpa is out since i got my results last month. However honours classification and final result will be out end of this month, 31st July. Therefore, the condition letter i got it from my uni but condused whether should i attach with my onlline application

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