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andrienne
post Jan 16 2011, 06:51 PM

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Will be joining one of the big 4 after CNY

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post Jan 16 2011, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jan 16 2011, 08:00 PM)
hahha advisory is fine throughout the year
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post Jan 17 2011, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(Knight_2008 @ Jan 16 2011, 08:28 PM)
wow..cool..fresh grad enter directly into advisory.. If you don;t mind, can you tell me which firm u are in and your qualifications? Want to use it as a rough guidance to assess my chance of entering advisory directly
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post Jan 17 2011, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(CKJMark @ Jan 17 2011, 03:03 PM)
Audit manager in 6 years is the norm.  Some make it in 4 or 5 depending on how well you perform.  This is contributed partly by the high turnover of the staff as well as the learning curve.  If you are in tax, the progression is slower.  Reason being, audit manager don't sign off accounts (that is partner's responsibility).  Tax manager usually sign off.

I don't think its hard for audit managers to find work in the commercial finance line.  I work in the finance department of a bank and more than half the management team here have had some audit background.  Its all perception.
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post Jan 19 2011, 06:31 PM

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Thank you so much for your reply CKJMark. It's vey useful for me to know that even though it's a very specialized work there's still demand for it smile.gif Didn't know banking field wants such specialized employee as I don't see them with openings of such. But I do know they are hiring very aggressively for mgmt trainees (on class and not for sales type la...) as I've been offered a few on that. But the bonding period sorts of made me think twice.
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post Jan 26 2011, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(kyosukekisaragi @ Jan 26 2011, 12:06 AM)
I'm currently in Advisory. There are no real defined peaks. Really depends on job deadline, as well as if the firm suddenly has an influx of jobs. Also really depends, coz some ppl start really hectic with alot of work. You kind of build 'rep' in Advisory, so the more hardworking/fast learners get picked for jobs quicker.

One time the partner was walking around during a slow period and asked if ppl were utilizing their Annual Leave. XD
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post Jan 26 2011, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Jan 26 2011, 05:51 AM)
First 2 hours RM6, Rm3 per hour after that standard KL parking charges. I hit RM40 before during one peak period last time due to memory lost.  biggrin.gif


Added on January 26, 2011, 5:53 am

Big4 will still accept if you hold the qualification but of course if you never failed it does help speed up the interview process. If they only accept straight passers, the assurance team will be heavily understaffed. Results aren't everything when comes to work.
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Adoi so expensive! My monthly pass starts on 16th and i'll start work on the 7th -.-"

Any kind soul with the rm9 parking per day tickets to let go? I need 7 tickets biggrin.gif
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post Jan 26 2011, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(kyosukekisaragi @ Jan 26 2011, 11:11 AM)
You're in advisory, ya? Talk to the person in charge of HR staffing for the dept. She's helping us all a big favour by buying tickets in wholesale amounts and then breaking them down to sell to the staff. So you can buy straight from her for 7 tickets. Price the same at RM9.

We also work at clients, so..... might not be a good idea to buy the monthly parking. happy.gif;;;
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post Jan 26 2011, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(kyosukekisaragi @ Jan 26 2011, 01:22 PM)
Tax advisory?

Oh, don't worry. You'll be in office almost full time. =D
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post Jan 26 2011, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(CKJMark @ Jan 26 2011, 01:44 PM)
Depends which part of BTA you are in though.  If its the CA team, you will be offsite visiting buildings on a project-to-project basis.  If you are in Transaction Tax, you might be out on due diligence reviews quite regularly, again depending on project frequency.

But if you are in ITS or Amarjit's team then you may not be going out of the office too often.
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post Jan 26 2011, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(kyosukekisaragi @ Jan 26 2011, 08:22 PM)
Wah. Need to be careful what I write here, later kena from HR.... O_o
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post Jan 27 2011, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(-YS- @ Jan 26 2011, 11:50 PM)
My result is first class, still got rejected..
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First class also got rejected? PwC requirement so high d? If you dint mind telling, which Uni are you from? Try to apply to other big4 since your grades are good. Don't give up trying or feel demotivated by that single reply wink.gif
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post Jan 27 2011, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(CKJMark @ Jan 27 2011, 10:29 AM)
1st class degree doesn't guarantee you a job.  Whether you land the job also depends on your presentation skills, your outlook, your communication skills, your extra-curricular activities, and other factors. 

Your assumption that 'they did ok in the interview' based on their acedemic qualifications is a little misguided.  I'm not saying they didn't do ok, I am saying that other people probably did better.  Based on my experience as a hiring manager, academic performence is no guarantee that the hiree will do well in the interview.  Your qualifications alone are not enough to win you the job when compared to people who excelled in other areas in addition to academics.

The accounting firms use academics as a cut-off criterion.  After that, whether you get hired depends on how well you talk, how well you present yourself, and how well you know your stuff off the paper.  It also matters a great deal whether you were active in sports and extra-curricular activities.  The paper qualifications only help you make the sorting bin.

Rather than bemoan the rejection, it would be better to call up the HR and find out why you didn't make the cut so that you can improve in the next interview.
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I agree on the extra curricular part because from all the interviews I have attended and got offers for, mostly don't centre around my studies once I got in for interviews. If u have good extra-c record they will tend to ask u relate your leadership scenarios or focus more on that besides asking about basic tell me about yourself etc. With that being said, even with first class there will always be masters out there to rival -.-" been to those programs offered by banks and most are equipped with masters when they apply for such jobs. Also, the English part when presenting is very much important.

Perhaps next time when one ends the interview, ask them about your performance on the spot eg. Off the record, may I know how did I do for the interview and is there anything that I should work on to improve myself?
It works for all my interviews and most will be glad to answer u (of coz I have encountered some that said so far so good and wait for call only -.-")
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post Jan 27 2011, 01:36 PM

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post Jan 28 2011, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(xueyu @ Jan 27 2011, 11:42 PM)
audit associate XD
second week of feb starting haha
erm..probably end of dec i applied for it..
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on the 7th? i am starting on the 7th biggrin.gif
abit nervous tongue.gif
gotta enjoy these few days to the max!

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post Jan 28 2011, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(CKJMark @ Jan 28 2011, 09:48 AM)
All the best!  AS is very knowledgeable and a good mentor.  You can learn a lot from him.  But just be prepared for short turnaround time projects and tight deadlines, which are the norm for advisory.
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post Feb 17 2011, 07:41 AM

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QUOTE(caspertan @ Feb 16 2011, 09:30 PM)
Thanks again for all the explanations. I understand the benefits though, endless OT and treated like ants. LOL!!

I know Big4 is a very good opportunity whether in present term or future term. The thing is I got called for an interview by both of this firm. The main problem is that I have 2 subjects which is still pending for result. Crowe Horwath called in for an interview, but EY only need the industrial training result (which is the subjects and module) in order for me to have an interview and which is a 100% must on the result. A big headache for me. I need to call my uni tomorrow to ask them to process the result faster.  rclxub.gif

Before I got the call from EY, I was happy with CH, since I got the interview with an international firm. thumbup.gif  Have been waiting for replies from Big4 for a few weeks, but none of them called. But after the call today by EY, I was like ohmy.gif . So I'm starting to worry bout the process speed for my result.

And more important is how do I tackle with the interview? I know it's not easy.
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post Feb 17 2011, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(ksoon @ Feb 17 2011, 10:57 AM)
Salary has been revised for the big 4's..for freshie pay now is RM2.8k..I think PWC offers RM2.9k..
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2.9k for degree only or degree with ACCA? Peers of alike joining workforce with degree is getting lower than said salary.

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