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allornothing
post Dec 18 2010, 08:40 AM

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This thread actually made it version 2, lol.

Anyone in PwC know the pay for a newly promoted Senior in Audit? With or without allowance. I'm guessing that with 2 years of experience it would be close to 4k?
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post Dec 25 2010, 11:31 PM

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With the entry level positions self fulfilling and if it is only for juniors, I really don't see why there needs to be a revision.
Of course, it would be better with it. I'm not surprised on what you said about the salary/hour ratio, my cousin is in there.

How was EY's annual dinner? KLCC is pretty nice. Don't think anywhere else is better..

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post Jan 23 2011, 01:38 PM

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I think when you join PwC, you'll start to notice that most of your batch mates come from Australian and UK universities.
Most of them will be doing their studies part time too. So the firm recognizes this and you will be given enough study leaves.
Also, I'm not sure which month you'll finish the course should you continue to be full time, but if you do join now, chances to get in is high due to the on going peak period.
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post Jan 23 2011, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jan 23 2011, 07:53 PM)
First question, do you think you're mature enough, and are wise enough to be able to endure such punishment? Frankly said, when I first started work when I was 20 (i graduated with acca at 20), I really had a huge culture shock migrating from a full time study environment to a working one. Presently, I think all the big 4s demand much out of their staff (in terms of commitment and willingness to learn), and after what I've been through, and what my juniors have since been through, I don't think many are able to take such pressure. I've seen many break down, cry, quit, and all end up bitter and disillusioned.

Now, I'm not discouraging you, and I think if you can take the pressure, and is willing to sacrifice a few years (you may easily wave it off as 'JUST' a few years, but it's not), I definitely encourage coming out at 20. You mature faster, and if you screw up, you have more time to recover.

But when you come in at 20, please do start with the right mindset. (many of us come in not suitably mature, which I am guilty of) Work on your appearance (it matters, alot!), try to be pleasant to have around (and smile/laugh alot!) and be tactful.

Also, be prepared to feel stupid and like there's a whole world to learn in the first 6 months. (but try to figure it out on your own). As a fellow PwC-er (and i'm sure any other big4), I do not think highly of people who needs to be spoon-fed and can't figure things out on their own even after a little guidance.
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Out of curiosity, do you mean guys as well? Either way, you are hanging on really well there. I have a rough idea of who you are, since a friend of mine is from your batch..


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post Feb 28 2011, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(Fallen_Afh @ Feb 28 2011, 04:51 PM)
So tomorrow is the big day, first day of work at EY.  biggrin.gif

Probably going to leave and reach really early, not to sure of the jam level of the Sprint. sweat.gif
Anyone know when the peak traffic times are?

Also parking is another big headache  rclxub.gif
Probably going to suck up and park at the open air/basement parking, at least for the first few days. Cousin recommended to do what she did while she was interning there, disguise yourself as a student and park over at HELP  blink.gif
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Sprint starts to get congested at around 7.30am every morning (at least for me, who is heading to KL)
Coming back, the cars can start piling up at Victoria Station or even earlier, all the way to toll plaza AND after the toll plaza. But that depends on the time too

The situation would be much better if you get to leave at 5.30pm, which then again is not the norm. biggrin.gif

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post Jul 8 2011, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(cikut @ Jul 8 2011, 09:59 AM)
Hi All,

Just got a phone screening interview from KPMG on Monday evening, and then received a call yesterday to attend the interview later today. Done the online assessments. Whats the chances? Really looking forward to to get the job.

Thanks,
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As long as you ace the interview you'll be fine. I didn't finish the assessment due to lack of time but it didn't change the outcome smile.gif
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post Jul 10 2011, 04:28 PM

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If I know I'm staying back I'll re park my car.

Plus there are midnight shows going on in the cinema. But I doubt I would want to stay that late
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post Nov 25 2011, 06:29 PM

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If you have finished your ACCA, you have a higher chance. It doesn't really matter even if you have failed before.

But if you have not, and with a third class, its a slim chance.
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post Nov 27 2011, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(HawkreiN @ Nov 27 2011, 08:57 PM)
Oh right. So passing ACCA kind of makes university grades less important.

Anyway, has the peak started for audit yet? Can anyone share the kind of roles which an intern does within the audit department? Thanks!
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Peak has not started yet. But due to clients with year ends falling not just on 31 December, it can get pretty busy.

Even for the past two months my colleagues have been working as late as 4 a.m.

And yes, if you passed ACCA, your grades doesn't matter as much
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post Jun 10 2012, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(brriant250 @ Jun 10 2012, 04:51 AM)
Hi, I'd like to know is graduating from which college with a bachelor degree in accounting that important to big 4? Or first class honour more prior to them? Cause I got friends that studying all different college and they kept bragging how higher chances they could get hired by the big 4. Could anyone enlighten me please? smile.gif
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Grades are more important to them. Having said that, you may get preference when applying for certain department if you studied overseas (Advisory positions). However, for all other departments such as audit and tax, good grades are more important than which uni you graduated from.
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post Jun 10 2012, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(brriant250 @ Jun 10 2012, 08:45 PM)
So you mean even grads from Segi, UCSI, UCTI, Linton etc can compete with students from Sunway or Taylor? Can you please define "good grades"? Please don't get offended, cause I've always thought that pay more for reputable college and it will worth the money back someday after grad.(excluding IPTA) And that's the reason why I chose KDU Murdoch B.Comm in Accounting.(can't afford the living cost at sunway, taylor) Please correct me if I'm wrong, so I can pass the message to all the juniors. Cheers  thumbup.gif
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When it comes to the Big 4, grades matter more than the university you graduated from. That means even if you're from a public university like UM or UPM, you will be able to get in with good grades (usually 2nd upper and above). Having said that, the only reason the Big 4 has many people from Sunway/Taylors etc is because most students are from there in the first place. So that somehow creates an impression that the Big 4 prefers graduates from certain universities.

There is nothing wrong with lesser known places (of course not to the extent where you graduate from a dodgy uni). I know of people from KDU's Murdoch program in my firm. I have batch mates from many educational institutions including MMU, TAR College, Sunway, Taylors and University of Melbourne.

Just get good grades and do well in the interview.
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post Jun 12 2012, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(brriant250 @ Jun 10 2012, 10:36 PM)
Hmm.. so basically I just have to aim for first class honour. Now I'm wondering why would someone would rather to pays like 100k+ to monash when every college gets the same opportunity. Anyway which company you're working for? Me myself more interested with EY audit. And which college/university you graduated from? smile.gif
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Many reasons. One might want to migrate to Australia in the future. An Australian degree is automatically awarded extra points for migration. Some parents believe paying more (compared to about 35k for ACCA) will have a more complete educational experience. You get to do internships, have real semester breaks, access to research databases, learn to research, experience different cultures, cultivate critical thinking skills. They believe that education is not about just passing your exams.

I'm from Sunway. And I would advise you to enjoy your uni life first. If possible, take the degree route.
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post Jun 18 2012, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(brriant250 @ Jun 13 2012, 04:16 AM)
I KNEW IT! You spoken like one of the big boys college. And yes I'm in my first year degree currently and I'm thinking to go for internship at big 4 when my second year, so do you encourage student to do that? I've never planned to go Australia but US, tongue.gif guess UK or Australian degree doesn't matter to me then? unsure.gif I just want to ensure that I will have a good start for my career.
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LOL! Yeah I definitely encourage you to do your internship. It really gives you a good insight on what you really want. Don't jump into audit because everyone is into it. Many of my batch mates are regretting it now. If you know what you want early and do well, then you're off to a stable start
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post May 4 2013, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(notmycupoftea @ May 4 2013, 04:27 PM)
regarding the bolded part, even though there is no promotion after working 1/ 1.5 year in that particular firm, would there be any increment annually?
some stingy firms only give increment together with promotion, which means no promotion= no increment  sweat.gif

would like to clarify from Big 4 workers too, is it true that generally there will be no increment after probation?
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I'm in tax. There isn't any promotion after 1 / 1.5 year like audit, but we do get increment. Having said that, I have seen my peers make senior in 1 year or even less smile.gif

And unfortunately there isn't any increment after probation. Anything else you would like to know?

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post May 4 2013, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(monev88 @ May 4 2013, 07:48 PM)
Wow. In tax it's possible to make it from associate to senior associate after a year of working?
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Yes it is possible, but rare.
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post May 6 2013, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(monev88 @ May 6 2013, 07:03 PM)
Another quick question - my offer letter does not state anything about bonuses. Is this normal?

How much does an entry level associate make in bonuses usually?
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Yes that's normal. Bonus is not contractual and it depends on your performance and the firm's.

Associates take anywhere from 1-5 (based on feedback from friends) months of bonus, depending on your department and firm.

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post May 14 2013, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(MyloXyloto @ May 10 2013, 03:15 AM)
I'm in big 4 audit but it's not true that we're faster than tax. Record breaker for partner is from tax, only 30) and my friend's tax associate director is 26, only 2 years older than me but I am just audit senior.

If I assume they started work at 21, it is like consistent 1 year promotion to get there I think.

We got so many audit staff but not as fast as those 2 examples. I'm thinking I should have joined tax.  Not just for promotion opportunity but because I miss having a a life.
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I have a feeling I know which firm is this. You mean the AD from SIG?
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post Nov 30 2013, 11:48 AM

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Deloitte is moving to Menara LGB at TTDI. Basically next to the market. There is no LRT to TTDI at the moment.

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