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syling88
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Apr 21 2011, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Apr 21 2011, 11:14 AM) Tax job normally requires you in office as less travelling is required. In that case transport and accomodation is a major concern. Comes to tax, I think Deloitte is the best in Malaysia. yupe but i dun hav deloitte offer. now considering this 2
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CKJMark
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Apr 21 2011, 12:13 PM
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"Best" is subjective. This perception is based on client composition and accolades given by "independent" bodies who base their assessment on client feedback. If you want to have a career in tax, my advice to you is join any of the Big 4 for tax, and you will have sufficient exposure regardless of which of the 4 firms you join. Joining the "best" firm doesn't help you if you get assigned to a crappy manager/team, which all 4 firms have their fair share of. I wouldn't be too concerned with these lables. For tax, if you are in compliance, you probably will be based in the office primarily. Since travelling is less (maybe some trips to IRB), transport is not a primary concern. Your work schedule is fairly routine and your destinations are fixed, so you can plan around it as opposed to audit. At the very least, your colleagues will usually finish the same time as you so carpooling is more plausible too. At least drop you off at a LRT or taxi stand. I agree with you that KPMG is more convinient than EY, walking distance to reasonably priced homes. Congrats on your offer
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syling88
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Apr 21 2011, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(CKJMark @ Apr 21 2011, 12:13 PM) "Best" is subjective. This perception is based on client composition and accolades given by "independent" bodies who base their assessment on client feedback. If you want to have a career in tax, my advice to you is join any of the Big 4 for tax, and you will have sufficient exposure regardless of which of the 4 firms you join. Joining the "best" firm doesn't help you if you get assigned to a crappy manager/team, which all 4 firms have their fair share of. I wouldn't be too concerned with these lables. For tax, if you are in compliance, you probably will be based in the office primarily. Since travelling is less (maybe some trips to IRB), transport is not a primary concern. Your work schedule is fairly routine and your destinations are fixed, so you can plan around it as opposed to audit. At the very least, your colleagues will usually finish the same time as you so carpooling is more plausible too. At least drop you off at a LRT or taxi stand. I agree with you that KPMG is more convinient than EY, walking distance to reasonably priced homes. Congrats on your offer  thanks for that, tomorrow my deadline to decide. i think the last question i ask before deciding is who will i be placed under. hope my choice lead me to a better future.
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Garfie
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Apr 22 2011, 01:51 AM
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QUOTE(syling88 @ Apr 21 2011, 06:40 PM) thanks for that, tomorrow my deadline to decide. i think the last question i ask before deciding is who will i be placed under. hope my choice lead me to a better future. well, i think would be really hard for them to pin point who will you be under since in big 4, they are mostly assignment oriented. correct me if i am wrong though, maybe things work differently in tax than assurance...
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morgana_jara
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Apr 23 2011, 04:27 PM
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In tax you'll be working under many different managers and seniors all at once. A portfolio of clients will be given to you to manage, and on each client there is a senior, manager and director assigned. So you'll end up reporting to a lot of different people at once.
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syling88
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Apr 26 2011, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(morgana_jara @ Apr 23 2011, 04:27 PM) In tax you'll be working under many different managers and seniors all at once. A portfolio of clients will be given to you to manage, and on each client there is a senior, manager and director assigned. So you'll end up reporting to a lot of different people at once. thanks for the info. kpmg staff told me that i will be put under the one interviewd me
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CKJMark
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Apr 26 2011, 11:59 AM
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Depends on the firm. Some firms / Groups practice a "pool" system. This means a group of Managers share a common pool of seniors/staff. In this sort of setting, you will report to several managers at the same time.
Some firms/Groups practice a cell system, where a few staff report only to 1-2 managers. Depends on the culture of the group you are joining.
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syling88
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Apr 26 2011, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(CKJMark @ Apr 26 2011, 11:59 AM) Depends on the firm. Some firms / Groups practice a "pool" system. This means a group of Managers share a common pool of seniors/staff. In this sort of setting, you will report to several managers at the same time. Some firms/Groups practice a cell system, where a few staff report only to 1-2 managers. Depends on the culture of the group you are joining. yupe. 1 manager is kpmg ey say report to a few manager Added on April 26, 2011, 6:20 pmi rejected ey but the interviewer calling back ask me reconsider. i say i actualli consider who will i be working under she say can arrange 1 or 2 manager to give me a call if i require such assurance...... should i really consider then?? This post has been edited by syling88: Apr 26 2011, 06:20 PM
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morgana_jara
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Apr 26 2011, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(syling88 @ Apr 26 2011, 06:17 PM) yupe. 1 manager is kpmg ey say report to a few manager Added on April 26, 2011, 6:20 pmi rejected ey but the interviewer calling back ask me reconsider. i say i actualli consider who will i be working under she say can arrange 1 or 2 manager to give me a call if i require such assurance...... should i really consider then?? My dear, do what is best for you... Btw, how are you going to compare how they will treat you based on a phone call/seeing each other for 20-30 minutes? Both EY & KPMG are not that different from each other. Just pick one and stick to your choice, don't confuse yourself. Keep in mind that if you're good enough, you can easily "jump ship" among the Big 4 if you don't like your workplace.
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HaoYuan
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Apr 27 2011, 06:08 AM
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is it good time to apply for big 4 now? since now is non peak season now right??
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morgana_jara
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Apr 27 2011, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE(HaoYuan @ Apr 27 2011, 06:08 AM) is it good time to apply for big 4 now? since now is non peak season now right?? The best time to apply is when they're recruiting. This post has been edited by morgana_jara: Apr 27 2011, 08:16 AM
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-YS-
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Apr 27 2011, 11:23 AM
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apply now, june intake.
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stephanie0721
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Apr 27 2011, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(syling88 @ Apr 26 2011, 06:17 PM) yupe. 1 manager is kpmg ey say report to a few manager Added on April 26, 2011, 6:20 pmi rejected ey but the interviewer calling back ask me reconsider. i say i actualli consider who will i be working under she say can arrange 1 or 2 manager to give me a call if i require such assurance...... should i really consider then?? Is reporting to few managers a good or bad thing? Different managers have different styles and will it lead to conflicts eventually? One manager might feel this is right and the other feels otherwise?
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syling88
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Apr 27 2011, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(stephanie0721 @ Apr 27 2011, 11:35 AM) Is reporting to few managers a good or bad thing? Different managers have different styles and will it lead to conflicts eventually? One manager might feel this is right and the other feels otherwise? what i think bout reporting to a group of them we can learn the style (if good) and learn diff experience and skills they have but troublesome.XD Added on April 27, 2011, 4:06 pmQUOTE(morgana_jara @ Apr 26 2011, 07:45 PM) My dear, do what is best for you... Btw, how are you going to compare how they will treat you based on a phone call/seeing each other for 20-30 minutes? Both EY & KPMG are not that different from each other. Just pick one and stick to your choice, don't confuse yourself. Keep in mind that if you're good enough, you can easily "jump ship" among the Big 4 if you don't like your workplace. can i put a *like* XD ya really not much diff This post has been edited by syling88: Apr 27 2011, 04:06 PM
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-YS-
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Apr 28 2011, 10:04 PM
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Depends on which department of Ey you are joining, my colleagues from TCE, SVS and REC is really working like dog, report to a few managers and Audit Assistant is required to complete audit by themselves(of course not big company, instead maybe subsidiary or dormant company).
Believe me or not, my friend joined same batch as well, was assigned to handle 3 listed company, but he has one year working exp in other big4.
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semivalue
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Apr 29 2011, 01:17 AM
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QUOTE(-YS- @ Apr 28 2011, 10:04 PM) Depends on which department of Ey you are joining, my colleagues from TCE, SVS and REC is really working like dog, report to a few managers and Audit Assistant is required to complete audit by themselves(of course not big company, instead maybe subsidiary or dormant company). Believe me or not, my friend joined same batch as well, was assigned to handle 3 listed company, but he has one year working exp in other big4. I think EY these 2 years has lost lots of clients in financial service industry due to global change (probably because of Lehmann's factor)
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lilster
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Apr 29 2011, 01:54 PM
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FS industry dominated by PwC lol
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TSThanatosSwiftfire
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Apr 29 2011, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 29 2011, 01:54 PM) FS industry dominated by PwC lol Nah. Lies. KPMG is still bigger in FS. PwC only has.. uh.. CIMB and RHB. Nothing great.
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LYR
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Apr 29 2011, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Apr 29 2011, 03:01 PM) Nah. Lies. KPMG is still bigger in FS. PwC only has.. uh.. CIMB and RHB. Nothing great. PwC audits 6 out of 9 commercial banks in Malaysia. EY has Maybank and Hong Leong whereas KPMG only has Pbbank. the rest are PwC's.
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lilster
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Apr 29 2011, 06:17 PM
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hey thanatos, i thought they were. are u sure they are not?
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