there are tons of people asking the same question. No diferrent feeling in Real World with the same Cherry Blue MX Switch. Just addition LED, USB, audio ports. Depends on luck whether u got a problematic units. This is all about QC for Razer products.

This post has been edited by zandara: Dec 27 2010, 12:57 PM

Actually if the mouse is really good and live up to expectations, I really don't mind spending even RM500 for it (being a gadget freak) Precision, dpi, performance is definitely there but if the software is laggy, mouse cannot be detected in wireless mode sometimes and low battery life is a total turn off. I wanted wireless because I thought it makes my desk neater but moving from Sidewinder X8 to Mamba is such a big difference because the X8's battery can last so much longer than the Mamba. Btw, I was on around 2000+ dpi, not even the max dpi. If I had it at the maximum, battery life might be worse?

^ good one.

Actually for wireless, logitech does a good job on its battery life vs DPI.

It is always been overkill when DPI exceed 3200, some might say, "hey I need higher" for precision gaming, but I suppose majority of the palm grip + low sensitivity gamers' usage wont exceed 3200 tho.

For me using Salmosa Asia edition, as a finger grip gamer, I find myself hardly using above 1000 DPI (hard switch between 800 or 1800 DPI at the btm). On the other hand, I like Razer TRON a lot(as reviewer claimed it is a finger grip mouse) BUT its price and DPI/other specs obviously an overkill for a finger grip gamer.

Razer should really consider about DPI, tech etc. VS Grip type VS pricing. Of course, while not compromising, the Build Quality.

Actually if you have a big monitor like 30" with 2560x1600, those extra dpi would help but again, 3200 dpi or more is just madness I really have no idea how to use it and the mouse is almost like out of control For me, it's always within the 2000+ dpi range so anything extra is just a plus which is not normally used.

u need to also take into account the technology involved.
eg. a 3200dpi laser sensor will not track as well as the newer 5600dpi ones.
so it should be pretty obvious as the tech improves, so too does the dpi...whether anyone uses dpi that high is a personal choice.
there may be ppl who use 3 monitors each running at 1920x1080, imagine if the mouse was still on 400dpi, it would take a 15 inch horizontal swipe just to cover from one end to the other.
why dont the manufacturers just update the 3200dpi to track better? that u have to ask them

I was previously on the Sidewinder X8 as well b4 moving on to the Mamba, batt life, yes the X8 does perform better n the magnetic USB charge cable is a very thoughtful method, made it very easy to switch btwn wired n wireless...when the batt is low, move ur mouse near the magnetic cable n viola, u r on cable...its charging as u play now...for Mamba, u gonna have to pause the game (if its MMORPG, it's a bit difficult then).

But then on the X8, the software part is very well done as expected from a software company (Microsoft). The only gripe is the overall design of the X8 is on a rougher note, very edgy, sharp corners, squarish buttons that tends to hurt ur fingers when pressing over time. The main thing that makes me part with it is actually on a personal reason. The physical size of it is too big for my hand. My palm ain't small...yet its still too big for me And I still remember the mouse wobbles, the feets are not level....

Eh how come I am like writing an X8 review

On the other hand, the Mamba, all in all, after all the issues laid out, it is still lovable due to the design, the ergonomics really hit me with all the right curves, buttons at the rite positions and the precision and speed is next to nothing. Once you set the mouse rite with the crappy-laggy software, preset all the dpi settings, then switching dpi direct from the mouse button is really on-the-fly, immediate.

It only put me off at the runtime (battery) department as well as the squeaky / creaky scroll wheel. U know it's kinda embarassing when your friends came over to watch u play games awesomely only to pose u a question..."eh what's that sound....oh how come ur RM400 mouse squeaks??"

On the dpi side, yea, I can't get used to control a mouse with its dpi set over 3000....my sweet spot for work use is around 1800 only over a 24" LCD.

So my presets are kinda like 800, 1200, 1800, 2300 2800......mostly only using the three presets in the middle.... I don't play sniping games really.

Thanks yupio for the honest opinion I guess we are the same and have tried both mouse. Yes the Razer Mamba does a better job as it's smoother and fits our hands a lot better. However the battery life is just a turn off. I can remember having to use the cable every now and then in the middle of game

I guess it'll take a while before battery life of wireless mouse gets better. I think even the current longest lasting battery life cannot satisfy a hardcore gamer.

I think if Razer wants to manufacture the product as a gaming mouse, they would need to make sure the battery life is somewhat in an acceptable manner. If we compare other wireless mouse or even Sidewinder X8 (gaming mouse), this Mamba has the worst battery life span of all. I mean if it can only lasts for 2-3 hours, they should do something about it because by calling it "gaming mouse", it should be heavy duty because gamers can play games for hours Another thing is this mouse is RM400+ so being so expensive, obviously the user would expect it to be worth what he paid for.

Yes! Believe so....

Even though I got issues with Mamba and Lycosa....still think that Razer is kinda new in the industry and mind u, they have potential. Given chance n time, I believe they would churn out awesome products. Newer stuffs are getting better like the BW...though still some minor faults here and there but they're going on the rite direction.

I am no fanboy here but I think I still have high hopes for them....not gonna buy anything from them for now...but I shall be looking at all their product releases and all....I too am kinda a gadget geek

Oh yes, I've got a Black Widow Ultimate for myself as Christmas present and so far so good except the keyboard sound is quite loud IMHO Typewriter

Whoa, how nice.....I ain't so lucky

I am wondering if this battery is a high capacity as mentioned in there...or was it exactly the same as the ori battery that came with the mamba....

If its a Hi-Cap, and if it performs as stated 14 hours of gameplay....I m getting it....

But seems to me its the same rating as the ori batt the comes with our Mamba...

Yeah, Razer claims Mamba can go up to 14 hours of gaming. The keyword is "up to" but in actual fact, 4 hours also hard to get. Moreover my dock is so near to my mouse.

confused now..
thinking of naga probably, though not gonna use that many buttons but just gonna let it be..
naga epic will be reaching by january?

Based on how the sensor required the power and the lighting all that, quite impossible for that battery last for 14 hours, the statement considered bluffing.

ummm so turn off the lighting?
also newer firmware improves batt life, and of cos reducing the polling rate.
anyway its like cars that claim can go 100km on 1L, but in real world 1L only go 10km etc...so maybe razer has diff conditions to recreate the 14hrs.

but 2hrs of battery life is too short, maybe a faulty battery.

Thats why I still sticking on the safe line: Razer Salmosa, for finger grip type such as Abyssus, Spectre and TRON. I think the Abyssus is the one I going for the next. The rests are way too overprice and not practical for majority(target only the specific group)

If Razer releases:

Two type of Spectre (Normal lightning system and APM system separately) and tagged both in different prices. Seriously I will grab asap.

Two type of TRON:

1. Finger Grip type: lower DPI capped at 800/1800/2400, multicolor/mono color(price OR choice) illumination, ambidex design, priced slightly cheaper (between RM200- RM250 still acceptable)

2. Palm/Claw Grip: higher DPI for FPS gaming(5600), Ergo design, same illumination settings, slightly exp(due to dimension and DPI tech), price range: RM250-RM300

TRON concept is very attractive for bringing new gaming experience, too bad Razer currently stick with Disney's branding tho.

i play FPS using claw grip, and my dpi is set to 450

I believe so which is why they say "up to" and not specifically saying it will last 14 hours Seriously, I never expect the battery life to be so bad. I mean, 2-3 hours is totally unacceptable for what they call a heavy duty "gaming" mouse After that I ended up with Ikari Laser which is wired (again).

Well yea, I think the average battery life should be stated according to a majority of gamers' usage habits (e.g. with lights or not, dpi setting etc.). The stated battery life should at least be closer to actual results.