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jasperng
post Dec 14 2010, 04:34 AM

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Hi, I just graduated from master's degree from UK with only 1 internship as working experience. I want to start my career in singapore instead of malaysia. Any advice on how much salary I should be asking ? ... Any reputable electrical/power/control companies to recommend ?

I realised that adverts in jobstreet singapore are mostly posted by recruitment agencies. It gives me an impression that companies in SG rely heavily on recruitment agencies to recruit new employees. Thus, I would like to know any reputable recruitment agencies specialising in engineering in SG ?

Thanks in advanced.

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post Dec 15 2010, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(rickysim84 @ Dec 14 2010, 11:48 PM)
after i grad, i directly come singapore to work, i dun wanna waste my time working in malaysia because not all the malaysia company working experience are recognize.
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How can I go singapore to work b4 getting offer ? I thought EP can only be applied by employer? Also, Can I work part time while waiting for offer ?
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post Dec 16 2010, 04:58 AM

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QUOTE(rickysim84 @ Dec 15 2010, 10:59 AM)
u can't work without permit. wat i mean is that, i stay in singapore for 2 months using visitor pass and search for job. smile.gif
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What do I have to do to get visitor pass ?


Added on December 16, 2010, 4:59 am
QUOTE(rickysim84 @ Dec 15 2010, 08:40 PM)
i work as a production technologist in 3M, more like manage people + paper work. smile.gif
Is 3M recruiting E&E graduate any time soon ? =D

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post Mar 28 2011, 11:31 AM

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Hey guys , I got offered with SGD 2.3k but with 2 years bond ... It's a shipyard company ...

Personally, I am expecting atleast 2.5k which eligible for me to apply for EP . I think this employer is not going to apply EP for me given that range of salary ?

Btw, Im fresh graduate with master but only has internship as working experience.

Do you think I am underpaid given that I have to be bonded with the company for 2 years ? ...
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post Mar 28 2011, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(tailtwist @ Mar 28 2011, 11:43 AM)
ya...probably wont be getting EP......for a masters...2.3k i would say its low.....even for  fresh grad degree in spore also around there liao....SGD2.5k....btw...better be quick.....cause in a few months time....the levy will go up and EP range salary will be up as well...i think 2.7-2.8k

Also need to check if they recognize your qualification

http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/pas...stitutions.aspx
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Thanks ! ill check.


QUOTE(seantang @ Mar 28 2011, 12:34 PM)
What are your other options available to you? If you have better options, then you are underpaid and should choose the better option. If your other options are worse or you have no other options - then there's no question about being underpaid.
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I dont have other option. I only went to this interview for singapore .. apparently they are the only company who replied among applications i have sent out T.T ...

QUOTE(r1v3r @ Mar 28 2011, 12:36 PM)
What is your capability?

Good to take the 2 years bond @ 2.3k for wiping table only, all those food court cleaner get less than that.

If you can do real engineering works then you should do some analytical thinking here.
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Not much analytical thing to do here. It's either take up the challenge and work for 2 years there or wait for other option.


QUOTE(Nokia convert @ Mar 28 2011, 12:49 PM)
Sounds like this company is trying to squeeze you dry. I'm sure there are other better options around...keep looking!

FYI, I started at 2.5k fresh grad and was increased to 2.75k after confirmation. I only have a bachelor eng degree.

Don't take my after confirmation salary as an absolute figure. My boss was happy with my performance so he gave me a 10% increment. Yours may vary.
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May I know what engineering are you ? Civil ?

QUOTE(giorgene @ Mar 28 2011, 01:14 PM)
Bond or contract for 2 years? Permanent staff? You can get good bonus if you work in shipyard
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It's bonded for 2 years. It's considered as permanent staff.

QUOTE(crapp0 @ Mar 28 2011, 01:15 PM)
Most companies related to the marine line pay their staff below market rate wages as evident by you having masters but only getting less then what the median salary is to be expected from a degree hold, much less a masters.

Since its a shipyard company or a company whose business is within the marine field but most of your work is done within a shipyard. Could it be either keppel shipyard, drydocks world shipyard, sembawang shipyard or SMOE, PSA, jurong shipyard, ST Marine or PPL shipyard. Take your pick.
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Mine is subsidiary of keppel group. It is said that i dont get some benefits as keppel's employees do =( (most probably the lucrative yearly bonus).


Added on March 28, 2011, 1:30 pm
QUOTE(wlcling @ Mar 28 2011, 01:25 PM)
Got masters should at least aim 3k pay for start ba...Anyway I wouldn't take any bond unless very good pay
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I agree with you ..... I dont expect 3k given that i have no experience . But 2.3k is too low to me .

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post Mar 28 2011, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Mar 28 2011, 01:34 PM)
Are you in keppel gul, keppel fels, keppel benoi or keppel singmarine?

Im now in keppel fels, attached to transoceans key gibraltar jackup rig. Recently went down to keppel benoi, was surprised that the ship frontier phoenix was there for either some repairs or minor refit since i did some work onboard that ship last year and it wasnt long ago that the ship went to keppel tuas to fix a damaged azimuth thruster.

It aint cheap to drydock in any of keppels shipyards.

If any of you wondered the difference living in other countries compared to your own, you can try to site to see a comparison between to countries.
http://www.ifitweremyhome.com/
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QUOTE(reign226 @ Mar 28 2011, 08:49 PM)
Which subsidiary is that? Seems rather low considering 2.5K is the norm for fresh grad with degree. Better check with them if you get the yearly bonus otherwise you will be losing out a lot. Anyway the bonus amount varies between business units. Also seems funny that you are a permanent staff but are not entitled to full benefits.
GSF Key...is it true that one of the staff there likes to take evening jogs around the helideck without PPE? My rig is just opposite yours, in light blue skirt =).
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It's alpine engineering services =X ... hmphz ... i guess i will look for other companies =( ... what other O&G/marine companies in sg =/..
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post Mar 28 2011, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(fbjkl @ Mar 28 2011, 08:58 PM)
agree. quite standard  rclxms.gif

just that chinaman company bosses nowadays r trying to squeeze my juniors dry by giving them S$2.2K / S$2.3K as a starting pay... mad.gif they just took up the jobs anyway. it's much better than in msian market.  sweat.gif
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mm i dont consider 2.3k is much better than msian market >.< considering how expensive the rent in sg ...
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post Mar 28 2011, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(fbjkl @ Mar 28 2011, 09:03 PM)
can drink....np...certain % of the water comes from ourself  brows.gif  PUB keeps on promoting NEWater few years ago. try to get 1 in water hub. i like the cute bottles. i have tried, no taste, no smell  smile.gif u can observe from many purple water pipes at sites nowadays.
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lol "certain % the water comes from ourselves" ... nice one bro ...
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post Mar 31 2011, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Mar 28 2011, 10:34 PM)
Oh dude, you got one of the f***** up engineering companies man. Their nothing but cheap labour fronts for keppel and various other shipyards. Their more like manpower companies rather then being a true engineering firm. That and kwong soon engineering all hire alot of bangla and indian workers. Plus all the old timers at the shipyards like to bully these people for no good reason other then to inflate their self esteem.

I would suggest you try other companies, i heard NOV, halliburton or WOM are looking for people. You could give them a try. Btw, WOM means world oilfield machine.
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haha their office is located at an old and dilapidated building +_+ ...i do see alot of indian and bangla going in and out at the office when i went for interview =(

what is NOV btw ? ... thanks for your advice.
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post Apr 8 2011, 12:08 AM

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May I know what are the recommended agencies to use to find job in singapore ?

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