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TSliez
post Nov 25 2010, 12:02 AM, updated 16y ago

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There were discussion about football career but how can we know if someone is to have a successful football career in the future?

Traditionally, the everything start young concept might work... lets take a child for example.... The parents had to let their kid to go soccer school in early years....

-at 5 years old, the kid should have start practicing football juggling skill
-at 6 years old, he should have master most of the juggling skill and start doing his cardio
-start letting him to study about football strategies, visions, techniques and through pass ideology etc etc
-train him in free kick and corner kick (make him a young set piece specialist)
-train his through pass and finisher.
-its good for the parents to accompany their kids to jog in the park for 10km 3 days a week and intense training for another 3 days. (example: monday,wednesday,friday jog for 10km in more or less 1 hour...tuesday, thursday,saturday intense cardio training like track and field)
-the kid should have a good football coach whenever he goes for a training session
-healthy and balance diet for all the years
-at age of 11 or 12....he should be able to do 21km run non-stop everyday (of course the timing had to be adjusted to suit his training schedule)
-try to enlist him into the states team then
-by now he should have learn most of the football techniques
-at age of 16/17 its good to start letting him to do more intensive cardio training and weights training...

-then try to let him have a trial with some of the best football club in the world like Ajax, MU, Barca....do a football video footage of that kid and sent it to the top 20 football club in the world and let him have trial with his favorite club

here's a video of little hassan ayari


now thats part of my idea.... any other ideas to make someone a successful football career?
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post Nov 25 2010, 12:20 AM

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On the other hand u have Brazilian players who grow up playing footballs on the streets kicking plastic bottles and rolled up newspapers.

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post Nov 25 2010, 12:40 AM

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This thread is talking about football player from third person POV, but i wrote it in second person POV. Hope ppl can understand.

1) Talking of nature, one must be born with good enough flexibility, if he doesnt have, then he can only overcome it by training at young age, once he grows up, its difficult and painful for someone to develop his flexibility, especially at the groin, without that, either you gonna miss kick very often or suffer injuries due to stiffness.


2) Good football education is VERY important, when i go back to my hometown, i see ppl that i had not seen for 3 years, and they still seem to play the same football without anything new, which means, no improvement.
With proper football upbringing, a player can develop and grow up faster and more efficiently, notably in instilling good habits. Weakness can be improved but bad habits are hard to change.
Just like defender has to rush out of the penalty box to make all opponent forwards offside when u clear the ball out of penalty box, this is HABIT, you dun think about doing it, you do it like pre-programmed.

3) To get scouted you must be already a key player in the team. The kind of player that if you dun have transport your manager will come and fetch you personally. If your not, then forget about it. Scouts are not gonna look at subs. Why look at subs when there are already better players on the starting line?

4) The nurture part, nothing can replace hard training, NOTHING. There are so many players out there, what makes you different from them? Why should professional clubs sign you instead of them??? You gotta make that difference. Every player has to work their ass off to sharpen their skill, including those talented ones.

There's a saying : Normal player trains until he gets it right, Good player trains until he cant get it wrong.

Its too right, you gotta train so hard you have the moves in your muscle memory, in your sub-conscious mind. Real game and training is different. In training, you just focus on what you do, in real game situation, u dun have that luxury. Its just too fast. You got to have the next 3 steps in your mind already.

Nicol David quote : "Winning is about thinking one step ahead."

But how are you gonna actually do that when you're thinking of how to dribble? receive with left foot or right foot? Turn left or right? You simply cant. You gotta focus on the match situation. Therefore, in training, you got to train until its already in your subconscious, you can even execute that move with your eyes close.

You got to train insanely hard for that. To become different from other players you simply have to put in effort that other players won't. Dun find yourself tons of excuses for not training. When its raining, you can do push ups, crunches, sit ups indoor, when no one is playing, you can kick the ball against the wall, or go jogging, push yourself to your limit so you can develop better stamina.

Yes training IS boring cause you keep repeating the same moves, BUT to sit on the bench watching other ppl playing is MORE BORING.

last and not least

"Do not pray for easy life, pray to be stronger man" - JFK

This post has been edited by FLampard: Nov 25 2010, 01:31 AM
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post Nov 25 2010, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(FLampard @ Nov 25 2010, 12:40 AM)
This thread is talking about football player from third person POV, but i wrote it in second person POV. Hope ppl can understand.

1) Talking of nature, one must be born with good enough flexibility, if he doesnt have, then he can only overcome it by training at young age, once he grows up, its difficult and painful for someone to develop his flexibility, especially at the groin, without that, either you gonna miss kick very often or suffer injuries due to stiffness.
2) Good football education is VERY important, when i go back to my hometown, i see ppl that i had not seen for 3 years, and they still seem to play the same football without anything new, which means, no improvement.
With proper football upbringing, a player can develop and grow up faster and more efficiently, notably in instilling good habits. Weakness can be improved but bad habits are hard to change.
Just like defender has to rush out of the penalty box to make all opponent forwards offside when u clear the ball out of penalty box, this is HABIT, you dun think about doing it, you do it like pre-programmed.

3) To get scouted you must be already a key player in the team. The kind of player that if you dun have transport your manager will come and fetch you personally. If your not, then forget about it. Scouts are not gonna look at subs. Why look at subs when there are already better players on the starting line?

4) The nurture part, nothing can replace hard training, NOTHING. There are so many players out there, what makes you different from them? Why should professional clubs sign you instead of them??? You gotta make that difference. Every player has to work their ass off to sharpen their skill, including those talented ones.

There's a saying : Normal player trains until he gets it right, Good player trains until he cant get it wrong.

Its too right, you gotta train so hard you have the moves in your muscle memory, in your sub-conscious mind. Real game and training is different. In training, you just focus on what you do, in real game situation, u dun have that luxury. Its just too fast. You got to have the next 3 steps in your mind already.

Nicol David quote : "Winning is about thinking one step ahead."

But how are you gonna actually do that when you're thinking of how to dribble? receive with left foot or right foot? Turn left or right? You simply cant. You gotta focus on the match situation. Therefore, in training, you got to train until its already in your subconscious, you can even execute that move with your eyes close.

You got to train insanely hard for that. To become different from other players you simply have to put in effort that other players won't. Dun find yourself tons of excuses for not training. When its raining, you can do push ups, crunches, sit ups indoor, when no one is playing, you can kick the ball against the wall, or go jogging, push yourself to your limit so you can develop better stamina.

Yes training IS boring cause you keep repeat the same moves, BUT to sit on the bench watching other ppl playing is MORE BORING.

last and not least

"Do not pray for easy lives, pray to be stronger man" - JFK
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good one.

but our culture is, always to go for the easy life..
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post Nov 25 2010, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(FLampard @ Nov 25 2010, 12:40 AM)
This thread is talking about football player from third person POV, but i wrote it in second person POV. Hope ppl can understand.

1) Talking of nature, one must be born with good enough flexibility, if he doesnt have, then he can only overcome it by training at young age, once he grows up, its difficult and painful for someone to develop his flexibility, especially at the groin, without that, either you gonna miss kick very often or suffer injuries due to stiffness.
2) Good football education is VERY important, when i go back to my hometown, i see ppl that i had not seen for 3 years, and they still seem to play the same football without anything new, which means, no improvement.
With proper football upbringing, a player can develop and grow up faster and more efficiently, notably in instilling good habits. Weakness can be improved but bad habits are hard to change.
Just like defender has to rush out of the penalty box to make all opponent forwards offside when u clear the ball out of penalty box, this is HABIT, you dun think about doing it, you do it like pre-programmed.

3) To get scouted you must be already a key player in the team. The kind of player that if you dun have transport your manager will come and fetch you personally. If your not, then forget about it. Scouts are not gonna look at subs. Why look at subs when there are already better players on the starting line?

4) The nurture part, nothing can replace hard training, NOTHING. There are so many players out there, what makes you different from them? Why should professional clubs sign you instead of them??? You gotta make that difference. Every player has to work their ass off to sharpen their skill, including those talented ones.

There's a saying : Normal player trains until he gets it right, Good player trains until he cant get it wrong.

Its too right, you gotta train so hard you have the moves in your muscle memory, in your sub-conscious mind. Real game and training is different. In training, you just focus on what you do, in real game situation, u dun have that luxury. Its just too fast. You got to have the next 3 steps in your mind already.

Nicol David quote : "Winning is about thinking one step ahead."

But how are you gonna actually do that when you're thinking of how to dribble? receive with left foot or right foot? Turn left or right? You simply cant. You gotta focus on the match situation. Therefore, in training, you got to train until its already in your subconscious, you can even execute that move with your eyes close.

You got to train insanely hard for that. To become different from other players you simply have to put in effort that other players won't. Dun find yourself tons of excuses for not training. When its raining, you can do push ups, crunches, sit ups indoor, when no one is playing, you can kick the ball against the wall, or go jogging, push yourself to your limit so you can develop better stamina.

Yes training IS boring cause you keep repeating the same moves, BUT to sit on the bench watching other ppl playing is MORE BORING.

last and not least

"Do not pray for easy life, pray to be stronger man" - JFK
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Awesome advice dude,this can also apply to other sports like basketball,training hard is very important smile.gif
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lolz thank both of you for compliments.

just what i believe after many years of football.

i still remember my ex - team mate told me in training when i complained it was tough.

"You'll cry with this training regime, but when you play football , you'll make your opponents cry"

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post Nov 25 2010, 07:36 AM

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if really train hard can get result, then why we don't see japan/korea did well in world cup ?

these 2 nations are extremely hardworking and commited type of people ...


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post Nov 25 2010, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(BoltonMan @ Nov 25 2010, 07:36 AM)
if really train hard can get result, then why we don't see japan/korea did well in world cup ?

these 2 nations are extremely hardworking and commited type of people ...
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i dont know if you're sarcastic or sincere but you just posted a very ridiculous post.
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post Nov 25 2010, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(FLampard @ Nov 25 2010, 12:40 AM)
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Good ones. rclxms.gif How old exactly are you? dont have to say it if you dont want to. I just find your mind is so clear and wise.

QUOTE(BoltonMan @ Nov 25 2010, 07:36 AM)
if really train hard can get result, then why we don't see japan/korea did well in world cup ?

these 2 nations are extremely hardworking and commited type of people ...
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So does Malaysia... Malaysian footballers hardly get scouted by any big leagues in Europe. One of the reason should goes into the nurturing part. I believe during the youth training...The kids were taught to play basic football skills only but not study them. Studying football based on diagrams, video clips etc is important as to practice them (well more or less important). Some left out cardio training or more accurately cardio improvement.... They did cardio until a certain level then they slow down the process....maybe fewer reps.

however your question as to why Asian countries hardly get results in the World Cup. Football is not a one person game. It involves more than the first eleven. Including the manager's strategy and formation, Reserve's impact, atmopshere, player's mutual relationship and understanding and many more. I personally think the Japan national football team put up a good performance in 2010 world cup- losing one match only in group stage to the year's finalist Netherlands by conceding one goal only in that match. Would say they are quite unlucky in Knock out stage losing by penalty. Japan's problem may be the way they control their pace...Go all out too fast in the beginning, pressing opponents too often and too fast, run too much and too hardworking but stamina goes down as the match goes. But yet I still think that Japan team is good. As for South korea....They are ....fine...rather nto talk about it.

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The single most important factor is whether you have the potential to play at desired level. There's no use if you have all the best facilities in the world and yet you can't even compete with the rest. And secondly is your luck, whether you are on form at the right place at the right time.
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QUOTE(BoltonMan @ Nov 25 2010, 07:36 AM)
if really train hard can get result, then why we don't see japan/korea did well in world cup ?

these 2 nations are extremely hardworking and commited type of people ...
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Dude, you need to put things in perspective. How old are the leagues in Japan and Korea in comparison with the Europeans and South Americans? The J League was only founded in 1992, a mere 18 years ago. South Korea has already reached the World Cup semis once and both them and Korea are consistenly qualifying for the tournament. They both made the final 16 in this year's tournament. They've achieved more in recent years than countries like Sweden, Denmark, Belgium, Hungary and Scotland just to name a few. These are countries that have churned out international stars like Thomas Brolin, Martin Dahlin, Brian Laudrup, Jan Molby, Peter Scheichel, Ferenc Puskas and Kenny Dalglish. As it is, many Japanese and Korean players are plying their trade in Europe's biggest leagues.

I think they have come in leaps and bounds.
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QUOTE(liez @ Nov 25 2010, 10:15 AM)
So does Malaysia... Malaysian footballers hardly get scouted by any big leagues in Europe. One of the reason should goes into the nurturing part. I believe during the youth training...The kids were taught to play basic football skills only but not study them. Studying football based on diagrams, video clips etc is important as to practice them (well more or less important). Some left out cardio training or more accurately cardio improvement.... They did cardio until a certain level then they slow down the process....maybe fewer reps.

however your question as to why Asian countries hardly get results in the World Cup. Football is not a one person game. It involves more than the first eleven. Including the manager's strategy and formation, Reserve's impact, atmopshere, player's mutual relationship and understanding and many more. I personally think the Japan national football team put up a good performance in 2010 world cup- losing one match only in group stage to the year's finalist Netherlands by conceding one goal only in that match. Would say they are quite unlucky in Knock out stage losing by penalty. Japan's problem may be the way they control their pace...Go all out too fast in the beginning, pressing opponents too often and too fast, run too much and too hardworking but stamina goes down as the match goes. But yet I still think that Japan team is good. As for South korea....They are ....fine...rather nto talk about it.
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apart from 'super-malaysian' level of ability, one thing that is important to get spot in Europe is a good agent.. someone over there that can advice our potential players where is the place to be at the right time... someone with connection to showcase our players above everybody else..

currently most european scouts are in Africa because African are safer bets compare to Asians..

 

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