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Streamyx Streamyx Capping International Connections, Regardless of type of traffic or usage!

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post Nov 22 2010, 11:39 PM

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Thanks Reuben for adding me into the list. notworthy.gif
Indeed this has been happening for the past 2 weeks for me.

Here's another set of test I just did to confirm the issue

What my line can really get from local server:
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But when it comes to international speed test, here is what I get:

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I think this is proof enough that they are doing something with the international bandwidth.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure how to complain, can't show them these screenshot through their call center. Wonder if they entertain any email?

My patience is really running thin vmad.gif

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post Nov 22 2010, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(Reuben @ Nov 22 2010, 11:47 PM)
Try a Singapore server too!
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Alright
Tested and added the result to my original post smile.gif

looks like its capped as well
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post Nov 23 2010, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(slayn @ Nov 23 2010, 03:19 PM)
just wondering, for affected users only, what is your ip range?

a few months back my ip was 60.xx/118.xx and I encountered similar problem; slowdown between 8pm to 2am the next day...so after numerous complaint made, I managed to get new ip set which is so far brought no problem since then
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Currently I'm 110.159...

Previously, I tried 175, 115, and 118, all the same.

That 4 is the the range I can get. Last time I used to be able to get 60, but somehow I can't get that anymore these days, don't know why
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post Nov 23 2010, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(jensonlbh @ Nov 23 2010, 11:12 PM)
dear all... late update....

streamyx 2nd level called me just now. Aziz called me.

Told me will upgrade to 2Mb package as free. Ask me to try the speed again with:

Shut down modem 15sec, start modem... speed test....

so below is the result... problem still remain.....

what i can do next ????

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Not surprising I think
There is nothing the technicians can do.

Bandwidth shaping happens at a way higher level than local ports or anything near us.

Maybe someone who have good English should write a letter to The Star or NST, and hopefully its publish?
This will get the attention of the public, and maybe finally Tmnet will response.
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post Nov 24 2010, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(tictac @ Nov 23 2010, 11:55 PM)
ok i change my connection setting. Previously using google dns which is 8.8.8.8
now using streamyx dns : 202.188.0.133:53, 202.188.1.5:53

Connection back to normal.
Ip address 60.51.X.X
1mbps acc

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Unfortunately I cant get 60.51 for more than a year already sad.gif

Has the slowdown happen on that IP before this?
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post Nov 24 2010, 11:46 AM

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Throttling start again after around 11:30 am mad.gif

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post Nov 24 2010, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Nov 24 2010, 01:15 PM)
What is the duration of your throttle for you guys? I only noticed this last night. So today im testing my speed to see from what time to what time tmnut throttle.
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For the past few days, I notice that usually after 11am, the throttling will start and it last until after 12 midnight, then the speed starts to get faster again. Mine is worst during evening to nighttime, only 20kbps or so doh.gif
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post Nov 24 2010, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(cranko @ Nov 24 2010, 05:41 PM)
I still don't understand..if they are really capping the bandwidth,which mostly it seems like they are really doing it now,why TM still bothering to send out the technician and still troubleshooting the user problem on the phone?

btw,i'm on 4Mbps and i can only get back my max speed after 2am and drop to 150kBps in the afternoon.
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Maybe the bandwidth shaping is done at a very high level. Technicians may not even be aware of them. Technicians are based on your local area, while these bandwidth control doesn't happen at that level, they have to do it at the backbone or whatever where all of Malaysia's traffic pass through.

you file a complain about your line slow, customer support send a ticket to the technician and so its their job to fix your problem. They may not even know what Tmnet is doing at the country's backbone level.

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QUOTE(jensonlbh @ Nov 24 2010, 06:42 PM)
means call to 100 is useless ?
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Not really I think
Even though I doubt the technician can do anything for us, its good to file a complain. If their call center gets a lot of call from users everywhere about the issue, maybe Tmnet will realize we won't just sit back and accept their throttling. tongue.gif At least we have to show them that we know what they are doing.

Well, I hope so anyway sweat.gif

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post Nov 25 2010, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Nov 25 2010, 12:16 AM)
yes...those who are real real...24/7 the line dedicated to download only....should be impose with cap....

wowow guys dun flame first...as i said the line are really dedicated to download not average home user that do download smile.gif .

i think most of the ISP in the world would also said they wont cap but it got a FAIR USAGE policy.....

the cap should impose for those who....getting a 4mbps line for 365 days,30days a month 7 days a week and 24 hour for download.

it does cause disturb over network,so thus other user are lagging badly. as you know TM guys working style on maintaince.....sometimes dun so self-fish.....care for others
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You mean like coming up with fiber optic based package that offer 12Mbps, and expect the user to just watch youtube video with a 12Mbps line laugh.gif

We all know what those high bandwidth package is for, its only for users who transfer large amount of data. If they expect user to limit their usage, which means the same amount of usage that can be achieve on a 1Mbps line, then why come up with those Unifi thing, right?

If Tmnet wants to be a hero and come up with high speed fiber service, they have to prepare the bandwidth.
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post Nov 25 2010, 09:44 PM

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What's happening here is not speed being reduced. Its a hardcap indiscriminately.

I don't buy the "be fair" bullsh*t because with hardcap like this, that means the available bandwidth is not fully utilize, they just cap everyone and save themself the bandwidth usage.

TMnet is full of sh*t
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post Nov 26 2010, 01:42 AM

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B@stards, until now still cap the speed
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post Nov 26 2010, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(jensonlbh @ Nov 26 2010, 10:40 AM)
the Noob answer from SKMM....

So so so general reply by the mail :

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damn... this kind of reply i also know how to write la.....

the ball kick back to TMnut.....
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Kind of stupid they just forward all out complain to tmnet
We can also just make our complain to tmnet straight, no difference doh.gif

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post Nov 26 2010, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(wongpeter @ Nov 26 2010, 02:51 PM)
I just called up 1-300-88-9515 to complain about the slow speed. The CS said that although he couldn't see from his end my exact speed when I was testing on speedtest.net he could see that my line condition was 'very beautiful'. ahhh what can I say!

Sometimes in our frustration and agitation we completely forget that it is really not the fault of these CS for our abysmal speeds and so we take it out on these poor sods who are just doing their jobs. The actual fault lies with those higher up in the TM hierarchy who sets the policies and makes the decisions. The CEO's and whatnots.

And so I told the CS that it may be a problem with my router and I thanked him for his troubles. The 'troubleshooting' session lasted more the 20 minutes and I wondered how many times in a day these poor buggers gets abused by customers calling in.

So spare a thought for these poor CS blokes. They aren't responsible for your problems. They are just there to try and help out as well as earning a living.  nod.gif
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I agree to a certain extend, but if we can directly ring up the CEO, I would do it in a heart beat. I have some "very beautiful" speech for him.

Customer service is our medium between the user and the company providing the service. Sometimes they are there to take note of our issues, and not treat us like a child.

20 minutes troubleshooting? That is their own fault. When a customer says his line is slow, that means he is connected but slow. So why the hell they want us to ping our localhost, ping our router, restart modem and all those time wasting crap doh.gif

Those people just blindly follow a list of procedure without considering what the situation is at the moment.

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post Nov 26 2010, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(vivre @ Nov 26 2010, 11:42 PM)
This fine evening, a TM technician called me, and the conversation took over 30 minutes. He was basically trying to help me with the slow connection (or should I say capped connection), and he was very kind too and have the technical background too.

In summary, these are the key understandings that I still remember (not in order ya, coz I just wrote whatever came across in my mind, just got back from watching movie too, so started to forget some of the details):
a. YES and YES, TM has enforced the capped under the Fair Usage Policy. And he said he could not anything as it was coming from higher level - and the reason that was believed to allow TM to do so is because we have signed the form and there was FUP policy
b. It seems that the international bandwidth has been used up to the CRITICAL level, and prompted them to make this swift move.
c. This move is believed to be a 'strategic' move so that existing Streamyx users will migrate to Unifi (where the quota is real and stated upfront) unlike Streamyx which does not impose any quota.
d. Apparently, there is automated system where it monitors the bandwidth used on daily basis and enforce the speed cap across the user base, whenever the bandwidth is saturated. Unfortunately, this system does not monitor INDIVIDUAL usage, but rather as a whole. So, it does not mean that if you don't clog the bandwidth you are safe.
e. He believes that this cap is temporary while waiting for the Unifi subscriber's base to increase.
f. The cap is enforced based on the package (meaning to say 4mbps should be getting higher capped international speed thatn 1.5 mbps)
g. It seems that TM won't go public with this speed cap to take care of their reputation. (Remember when Unifi was launched with quota, the whole nation was condemning them, and later they retracted the quota 'temporarily')
h. The growing number of 'big-buffet-eater' (read: Unifi users) has something to do with 'running-out-of'bandwidth' effect that all of use are currently facing.
i. The word "Unlimited" in Streamyx ads refer to the access and not the bandwidth.

What I did:
a. I asked him to escalate to higher management to let the public knows about this cap.
b. I told him many were flaming and bashing TM, especially nowadays after the sudden speed cap.
c. The FUP should be more transparent rather than GENERIC FUP i.e. Unifi, Maxis BB, Digi BB clearly states their monthly quota.

That's all. I will add more if I managed to recall some of it.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks for sharing

This just proves that TMNet is full of s*th and some more

They sell high speed service like unifi, and now they say they are running out of bandwidth.

Whats more disturbing is a hard cap like this actually mean their bandwidth will be under-utilize, there will be extra bandwidth that no one can use because everyone is capped. This is not to solve their bandwidth issue, its just to save the money they spend on international bandwidth

Those rich b@stards are just greedy


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post Nov 27 2010, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(shkon422 @ Nov 27 2010, 11:22 AM)
That's P2P related. Its another different dumb story brought to you sincerely by our government

Right now, we are suffering from cap on normal http connection.
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QUOTE(rakuen @ Nov 27 2010, 07:46 PM)
I hope everyone understands the seriousness of this kind of capping...

When Tm starting throttling/capping, it was because of heavy p2p & torrenting usage that causing network congestion. As much as we didn't like it, we can understand why they did that.

Now, they are cutting ALL of our international downloads and access BY HALF. So that means, a 1mb package can NEVER reach 1mb unless you're downloading from within Malaysia.
There can never be a good reason for this, except for the fact that TM has oversold their services and have not upgraded our international links.
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Yeah, they want more customers, get more money every month, and yet they refuse to use that money to upgrade the service and bandwidth.

Throttling P2P is one thing, but when they cap ALL international traffic, thats really retarded, its as good as just cutting our package speed, and I would also like to cut the bill cost in half vmad.gif


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post Nov 28 2010, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Nov 28 2010, 11:33 PM)
Something must be mess up at cyberjaya there and cause all of us suffer
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Thats what I and I think we all here has been getting

Whatever they are doing or is going on, somehow it affect that local server too.

Does anyone know what that Cyberjaya server is for? Who's server is it?

Surely its not just for speedtest right
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post Nov 29 2010, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Nov 29 2010, 01:01 PM)
Hmmm, Mass downgrading of the leecher crowd is good for everyone I believe.

1. the hoggers go away (hopefully)
2. the freed up bandwidth goes to everyone else to share and play nice
3. TM gets more casual users

the only one who misses out are the leechers ?
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Full of sh*t bro

This cap applies everywhere, not just P2P. You're saying its good that you pay for a certain package every month and only get 20% of the speed you are paying for? How is that good that everyone only get a small portion of what we are paying for?

What bandwidth goes to who again? Everyone is capped, so who gets what?

TMnet save on bandwidth, but that saved bandwidth is not going to anyone else bro, it just goes right into TMnet pocket.

Do you realize that before this, even when people are hogging the bandwidth with P2P, everyone is actually getting more than 50% of the speed they are paying for? Even those who doesn't download a lot still enjoy their bandwidth whenever they need it.

Right now, we are all being capped. No bandwidth hogger and yet everyone gets slower bandwidth instead. Do you see the irony there?



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post Nov 29 2010, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Nov 29 2010, 11:27 PM)
RUBBISH COMPANY
migrate server NEVER inform customer
DO AS THEY LIKE!!!
IMMORAL COMPANY!
PUIPUIPUI
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What do you mean? The current slowdown is because of migrating server?

Where did you get this info unsure.gif

Thanks

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