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mavericksam
post Nov 22 2010, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(pewong @ Nov 22 2010, 11:31 AM)
I'm currently looking for a reputable responsible breeder for miniature schnauzer in Klang Valley area, if there isnt any, then do help to recommend from out of State. Thanks!

This post is to help reduce puppy mills and unscrupulous breeders out there. Feel free to add breeders name whom you've bought your puppy from and you think he / she is a responsible breeder. This will help others in getting a good puppy of their own and not get cheated by money-minded businessman!

Responsible Breeder :
1) Linggene Kennel : www.linggenekennel.com : Miniature Schnauzer / Toy Poodle / Goldie / Shih Tzu / Pekingese /
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errr... you are looking for one, but yet you suggested one... so how did you find out that they are a responsible breeder? and if they are, you have already solved your problem... no?
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post Nov 22 2010, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(devil86 @ Nov 22 2010, 12:44 PM)
err....mayb he/she is trying to get a list of good breeder for the people so that other can get the puppies from the good breeders instead of from puppy mill or petshop?  tongue.gif
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Actually this is really an interesting topic... what determines good?

puppy mills? breeders? responsible breeders?

personally i bought my dog from a pet store out of ignorance (not knowing they were from mills) and the way she bahaved in my arms... totally captures my heart...

but yes while i am ignorant, what determines a breeder (mills and whoever) and a good breeder...

for me, a breeder (regardless of how responsible they are), are just breeders... all of them are in for the money... all of them forced their dogs to breed so that they could sell their offsprings... all of them have no regards to the offspings' parents!

if you truly loved your dogs, could you ever, ever want to separate them from their kids? have you ever imagine your kid being taken away from you after 9 months of carriage and the pain of labor?

i said forced to breed is that (even if you say the pregnancy is unwarranted) when you have a female dog in heat, if you put your male do accessible to the female, you are just encouraging breeding... that in itself is irresponsible family planning unless you already have in mind to sell the offsprings...

lastly if you really really have unwanted pregnancies and can't afford the puppies, why sell them? why not just give them away...

i may be harsh, but i think it is hypocritical to say that one is a resposible breeder if they themselves are in for the money... it is just another way to say, hey i am better than a mill, buy it from me so that i would continue breeding them (probably even opening a pet store when the money is to good to ignore)... and price wise, aren't they just about the same (some reputable breeders charges about 2k for a maltese pup as with some pet stores...)? puppies will continue to capture our hearts and if you say, supporting them is just the lesser of two evils, maybe?... but the sin is the same... anyway it is up to you guys to make that choice...

anyway i really really do not fault anyone buying from anywhere... so if you insist on promoting some breeders, please do continue...
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post Nov 22 2010, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(mecharojak @ Nov 22 2010, 02:18 PM)
price is normally a factor when general people look at when getting a pet.
Good genetic line don't come cheap.

Good responsible breeder are hard to come by as most breeders are going for profits and minimizing operating costs.

Passionate hobby breeders who cares for breed standard, genetics and breeding female's health over profits is an even rarer thing in Malaysia,.....
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not sure if this is directed to me, but if it is, yes i do agree that good genes doesnt come cheap currently... and yes they might be hobby breeders but what i am going at is the act (of breeding your pets (already bad "forcing" them to breed) and sells them (worse still forcing the offsprings to be taken away from your pets [the parents]) ) and not the after effects...

if they really are hobby breeders, would they ever ever gonna give away their furkids instead of selling them? give chance to others to own a pet with good genes for free (or probably just minimal fee to cover med)?

if they are not willing, what difference are they from money minded millers? it is just some so call self righteousness and if things go their way, would they be the same and be a miller themselves (earning big big bucks if they are not already)? look at some breeders online, they probably sell about 5 - 10 pups a month... go figure... the pet turnaround is probably faster than some pet shops too...
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post Nov 22 2010, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(mecharojak @ Nov 22 2010, 03:38 PM)
As promoting a preferred breed, yes.
A good hobby breeder would sell/give away pups, request for visitation rights and be open for future enquires on the furkids health .
But i never heard of this happening in Malaysia.
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hmm... even if it were to happen, how often can they visit? if you have given just 10 pups, could you guarantee that each of them would be visited every two months?
QUOTE(mecharojak @ Nov 22 2010, 03:38 PM)
Passionate hobby breeders is not a day job.
Humans without greed exists.
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i don't deny that humans without greed exists... But again... why breed when you are not going to keep... just messing the life of the poor parents (breeder's pets / breeding animals) just for their pure passion / enjoyment...


 

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