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post Jan 1 2011, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Dec 31 2010, 10:59 PM)
i'm the one get the service from jacky. power really inprove a lot. first he test my car laugh my car like blm 1.3 cry.gif

now it's really persona 1.6 liao haha
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LOL.. Ur car really so terrible one har?? He only remap the A/F ratio isit? Does he remap the Gearbox gearchange controls too?? To match the gear shifts to proper speed ratio for maximum pickup?

QUOTE(xandras @ Dec 31 2010, 11:28 PM)
LoL. Anyone here spending the silent, lonely night of new year's eve at home?  cry.gif
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Gf mana?? Go around somewhere mah.. Stay at home very sien one.. Go watch Meet the Little Fockers. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(jasondotcom @ Dec 31 2010, 11:32 PM)
yea i purposely install low springs only at the rear to level the car. stock persona suspension really look damn stupid with the butt tonggek like what. so far, it does not hit the fender (rear) BUT... touches the inner bumper plastics when the car goes through a bump hard. i hv cut a bit off a plastic part with a pen knife since i saw the rubbing marks. but then i think it rubs the other plastic part in there.... anyways.... i am still investigating on this part. to report back later once i found it.

just an interesting note to you all which i found out long time ago couple of months after i own my car in 2009.

to lower ur persona pretty much like stock is easy.

1. Change the front & back absorber to Gen2. Why? Gen2's absorber body length is the same BUT the spring seats are lower about almost an inch. That is why u see Gen2 with lower profile tires still look pretty ok in stock height (no big gaps).
2. Persona's rear coil springs are the same with Gen2.
3. Persona's front coil springs are not the same with Gen2. So its either you maintain OR change the coils (front) to Gen2 as well. But if u change the front coils to Gen2, then u need to buy the top seat for it too since Persona's front coils have different sizes top and bottom (conical shaped).
NOTE: For mine i changed only the rear coil springs to APM Performax low springs to level out the ride. And it still drives exactly like stock.
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Roger. For me springs is much cheaper lah.. Rm160 for a set of APM Performax. Absorbers mahal sikit.

QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 1 2011, 12:07 AM)
Erm.. I agree with the high-butt case.. But I still like Persona's high butt bcos it blocks most of rear traffic's high beam/HID.. Probably change to adjustables? I don't know >.<
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Can counter it mah.. Lower rear springs with taller ducktail spoiler. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(yukogura89 @ Jan 1 2011, 02:29 AM)
haha..i make appointment di with cose bt they say wil give me call bac til now i haven received any call. wil go b jb n go to plentong hq to chg the assembly. aiya canny cool sticker ok la..not reali tat bad;)
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Oh u stay near plentong one ah?? Me in skudai area. XD

QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Jan 1 2011, 02:54 AM)
Sigh, i thought Persona's A Pillar would be tough enough... sad.gif

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Its very tough ady loh.. Look at the pic.. Surprisingly the interior cabin intrusion very less.. Just too bad no air bag only.. If not sure can save the driver..

QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Jan 1 2011, 10:31 AM)
i just get it done on thursday. fc need to monitor but wont improve at the moment as my fuel pump was faulty according to jacky.

he ask me to rev the car kao kao 1st. low end torque improve alot but top speed never try as i'm not a racer haha, even in highway i just brave enough to speed until 150km/h only
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Ok rev kaw kaw.. I still dont understand bout the faulty fuel pump part. That means the fuel pump cant pump enough fuel to the engine?
Mai mai come i help u.. U dont dare rev i help u rev.. thumbup.gif
Want to test how much improvements can be obtained from the tuning.
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post Jan 1 2011, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Jan 1 2011, 06:55 PM)
i will gv u his contact.
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QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 1 2011, 07:40 PM)
I think the fuel pump that he mentioned is like a floater that you see in toilet flushers. That floater sometimes rosak, causing the petrol meter showing wrong amount of petrol in tank. Happened to my wira before..  blush.gif
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Owh.. Yest i pour full tank.. Went for 140km ady. But my meter still show that i only use LESS THAN 1/4 OF A GAP! ohmy.gif mega_shok.gif rclxub.gif
Impossible FC so good.. And i fill till the fuel gun auto stop then i nvr fill anymore ady.. blink.gif

BTW Esso Mobil now got contest to win a Myvi.. From now on i will pinjam everyone my car as long as they pour petrol for me.. hehe..
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post Jan 1 2011, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 1 2011, 10:42 PM)
Hahaha.. And I realised, if you make a U turn to the right, the needle at your petrol meter will  increase.. Try it!!  biggrin.gif
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Noticed it.. If u brake really hard or u are going downhill.. U magically have free petrol, but only to be taken away when u go back uphill.. cry.gif
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post Jan 1 2011, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 1 2011, 11:02 PM)
Haha.. It's trying to tell you that going downhill doesn't consume petrol..XD
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LOL.. tongue.gif It still have to lah.. I wished i could switch off the engine and only switch it back on when its starting to go uphill.. XD.
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post Jan 1 2011, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 1 2011, 11:21 PM)
=.= thats like the most dangerous thing you can do.. LoL  tongue.gif

Hey, you have any idea where to get Osram Nightbreaker bulbs? I might wanna change my light bulbs.. Feel that Persona's headlamp a bit too dim..  unsure.gif
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I always search around automotive garage and ZTH marketplace there.. Probably can get a good deal somewhere there.
I want to install LED fog lamps first before changing my head lights.. tongue.gif
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post Jan 1 2011, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 1 2011, 11:33 PM)
LED foglamps?? o.O like the new Merc E-class type?

Nah, don't wanna go too bling bling.. LoL..
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Yeah.. Exactly.. Im getting the E-class ones.. Hella design.. Or probably the Audi A6 ones if possible.. Gonna cost a bomb though.. But hell its worth it..
So damn bright and i like the color.. Pure white.. Not the bluish ones..
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post Jan 1 2011, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 1 2011, 11:47 PM)
Not illegal ka? LoL... How much is it? I thought of installing lights behind the bumper..XD
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No lah.. Merc E-class can put what.. Of cos mine also can.. haha..

Light behind the bumper as in??
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post Jan 1 2011, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 1 2011, 11:51 PM)
Aiyah.. E class wan comes with it ma.. Later JPJ complain leh..

Behind the bumper as in..Erm.. The middle lower part of the front bumper, hide the lights behind it so you won't see it during daytime. Then when nightfalls, jeng jeng jeng... HID/LED!!  drool.gif
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Oh like those under car lights?? awesome.. HID sure wei,.. change ur foglamps for HID ones first lah.. But seriously i hate it lah.. Cos HID doesnt work with reflector style head lamps.. It scatters the light too much.. It only works with projection lamps..
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post Jan 2 2011, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 2 2011, 12:05 AM)
Hmm.. Not exactly under car.. The light will be projected forward. Only that at daytime you won't see the spotlight casing on your car.. But night time the lights just emit/project whatever you call it through the bumper/middle lower grille..

I wonder if they sell projector fog lamps?  unsure.gif
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Hvnt found any yet so far.. Im still finding for it..

QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Jan 2 2011, 12:34 PM)
err how to describe, can let u test my car if you want to know tongue.gif , but jacky said must chg the way i'm driving, if not the ECU will adapt to my driving style then back to BLM 1.3 again cry.gif


Added on January 2, 2011, 12:37 pm

he said the fuel pump provide the wrong fuel level to the sensor that's y the fuel indicator light up pretty fast even though there are still plenty of fuel inside the pump
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When wanna meet up? I want to test ur car first b4 the ECU reverts to BLM 1.3.. hahaha.. laugh.gif
Sounds like what Jacky did was merely just reset the system and choose aggressive mapping in the start.. He did not change the base map value or overwrite the defaults..
Oic.. Nothing major lah.. I thought the fuel pump cant pump enough fuel to the engine causing it to be underpowered.
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post Jan 2 2011, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Jan 2 2011, 12:46 PM)
um guys, last night when i park my car, i accidentally forward too much, and my front bumper hit the road shoulder cement, i realised that by those sounds, then i retreat, then i come down from my car to have a look, crap, my front left bumper loosen! bcos the screw placeholders are broken, and i plan to take to workshop to do, any1 know how much it cost to repair it?
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LOL.. Happens to me too.. Where u misjudge the distance.. When u go to the workshop they just remove the bumper, straightened back the clips and fix it back.. In JB i get it done for free.. In KL, probably around RM10-20.. U can go to those bodywork shops to get it done.
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post Jan 2 2011, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Jan 2 2011, 01:36 PM)
overall my car damage:

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closer look to part 1:
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unknown damage, seems like the plastic was teared off

part 2:
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the clips is torn

part 3:
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same above

how much is the cost in kl overall?later gonna take to workshop to do...
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The bodyshop can rivet it back in for u.. But the downside is once u have rivetted u cant remove the bumper unless u remove the rivet and re-rivet it back..

QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Jan 2 2011, 01:39 PM)
if change the base map value i think it will cost 2k like what dktuning offering haha.
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Yeah gila that fella..2K can get standalone Unichip Q+/E-manage Ultimate.. Even better than just changing the ori ECU basemap..
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post Jan 2 2011, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Jan 2 2011, 01:48 PM)
rivet? siao ah, i plan to change bumper around mid 2011 leh...cant rivet
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Rivet it from the inside lah.. U wont see it from the outside.. And rivets can be removed.. But then if u want to fix it back u need to have the rivet gun handy lah..
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post Jan 2 2011, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Jan 2 2011, 01:56 PM)
means what?sorry, i really very noob in mechanics. means screw another hole from the inside? isnt worth if they could fix the plastic bumber hole thingy?
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Yeah on the inside, but they will drill another hole beside the ori one and plug this in..
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Moulding-Mounting-...l/dp/B002WK0CEA
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bumper-Retaining-S...l/dp/B002WJKUE8

Its cheaper than fixing the original clips.. Since u are going to change the bumper in 6mths time..
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post Jan 2 2011, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Jan 2 2011, 02:03 PM)
so the main body inner part sure kena drill a hole?
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Yeah sort of.. Not too sure how its done though.. Its like they drill a smaller hole beside the original hole and use this rivet to hold it together.
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post Jan 4 2011, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(Janick1437 @ Jan 2 2011, 03:50 PM)
hey guys... Happy New Year.. so, how's thing goes... may all the Persona driver.. goes safe n good this year... smile.gif

hehe.. awaiting the TT session for the bulk buys..

ya, for the power steering assembly, i e-mail i-care, they ask me go SC.. so, hopefully can replace it without any $$$... hehehe
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TT sessions update coming up. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Jan 2 2011, 07:40 PM)
awaiting buck buy TT...
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Coming up.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Jan 3 2011, 12:01 AM)
i just consulted my friend who work as mechanic, he has done some checking, and ask me when i bought my car, i said just 5 days ago, then he advise me take to service centre or consult the SA on this to claim the warranty to change the whole bumper, basically this thing is beyond repair, of course i dont think i like to drill holes to my 5 days car. cos he told me similar case occured to his friend before. so i'll drop them a call tomorrow...

oh update a little bit, my friend told me even if rivet, the alignment wouldnt be the same. so i'll try my luck with the warranty claim. wish me luck persona lyn club...
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Maybe the SC might not give u a new bumper.. But probably they got a way to fix it up i guess.. Im sure they got a way to fix it cos they also do heavy repairs in the SC.

QUOTE(yukogura89 @ Jan 3 2011, 01:03 AM)
hey bro, dun tell me u study at utm oo..im utm student at skudai currently =D
kesian...chg to after market bumper ^^
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Nope. Im from JB.. staying near Kip Mart there..
Got reason to change to aftermarket who not happy wor.. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(farcry84 @ Jan 3 2011, 09:42 AM)
huhu..dat one for sure ma..but my budget is max 800..

but for hline..it was tinted already..but d heat rejection not good...

can i just add another layer or need to ask them to take out d current one b4 tinting with d new one?
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Yeah u can just add on.. The window will become slightly thicker but its ok. Unless u are adding on security tint then i suggest u remove the existing tint first.
But current tints on the market are good enough ady. So i guess u dont need to put 2 layer tints and can remove the original tint.

QUOTE(slater_iz @ Jan 3 2011, 09:44 AM)
yes can..i tinted my car 2 layers d...my brother in law 3 layers...JB very hot2
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But i see JB got more trees than KL.. haha..

QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Jan 3 2011, 11:13 AM)
what is CoSE? um, hit a hole on the road consider accident, not really carelessness, cant avoid it bcos the road is narrow
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Centre Of Service Excellence.. First and 2nd post got the details over there.

QUOTE(mafarizan @ Jan 3 2011, 02:15 PM)
hard for me to dig beck from previous post.....

can someone give me the listing of the part number for power steering assembly..
Mine no warranty anymore...
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2nd post of this thread there i have put it all up there..

QUOTE(jasontantenghuat @ Jan 3 2011, 04:15 PM)
Wooo I'm bald!!!
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LOL.. Instead of buying full slick tires u make ur head slicker? tongue.gif

QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Jan 3 2011, 05:47 PM)
hi zeng remember previously you saying that want to arrange a TT with KC to show us how to make up for our persona ? wish to learn up some skills from him hehe
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Yeah.. But he is busy till after CNY...

QUOTE(rckh @ Jan 3 2011, 08:51 PM)
Don't do that please. You don't have to stoop so low to replace your bumper.  Please don't give Persona owners (especially LYN members) a bad name. Grow up, live with it & accept that accidents are part & parcel of owning a car.  Forget about this sick scheme of yours.. I can't believe there are actually members here who would support such a ridiculous idea.
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Well he is just trying his luck.. I dont think it would be any harm asking.. We dont need to stuck up with our ego just because we know we cant claim something. Who knows the SC might have some ways of repairing it back to original? We never know till we ask. As we can see from the pics he posted the bolt hole in the bumper has been totally ripped out.. This shows that its not just a simple job of bending back the brackets and just refit the bumper.. So lets put it to a rest here and see what solutions can fenrir0402 come out with first.

QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 4 2011, 12:44 AM)
I'm pretty sure he never mentioned anything about scheming up a lie to go for warranty claim. Insurance claim for a new bumper just because the clips are broken? Sure..
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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Jan 4 2011, 09:40 AM)
not fighting, rather, insisting to make constructive and healthy topics, instead of jumping to conclusion without further investigation, which bring indifference and a certain degree of inconveniences.

btw, care to recommend me any workshop to fix my broken brackets? i really need to learn more on automotives and improving my driving skills smile.gif
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Erm go to Sunway area.. A lot of bodyshops.. I am free for the mth of jan (jobless). So if u want me to recommend some bodyshop then i can bring u around there..

QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Jan 4 2011, 09:49 AM)
where is Zeng? seldom see him online and lepak here. want to ask him the arrangement for the air filter and spark plug.
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Tadah Im back! Sorry quite busy since new year.. A lot of things to settle.

QUOTE(jasondotcom @ Jan 4 2011, 10:52 AM)
to me that sounds like you tore off the bumper hole for the bolts already. if that is true, habis cerita already. bye bye bumper. its either that you will have to have it replaced or have it cleverly fitted with custom steel brackets modified into it. some workshops are willing to modify it. it will mount just as good but its heart breaking to see it done on a new car.  cool.gif
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Yeah the pic shows the bumper bolt hole totally ripped out.. shocking.gif Must have been a big pothole and a real heartbreaking crunch when he drove into the hole. cry.gif

QUOTE(NINJIAO @ Jan 4 2011, 11:21 AM)
Ohh shii, my persona 2 times cannot start d. When i turn on engine, all lights come out only but it didnt crank. I have to turn key all the way to off, then turn it on back baru crank. Anyone encounter tis before? i think the immobilizer got something to do with this.
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Check and see if the red dot in the middle of the meter panel is blinking. If yes then close the door, lock and unlock the car.. Sometimes u turn the key too fast and the car ECU still blur blur.. Hvnt wake up yet.. Just turn it slower step by step.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(NSX_MY @ Jan 4 2011, 01:50 PM)
put it this way, Persona is a wild horse, it needs to be tame them only they will let u ride on it. i usually just twist my key to 'On' first, then wait the airbag light off, then only ignite/crank the engine. When turn off the engine, i off the aircon first, then only turn off the engine slowly, thats why now i havent had any problem with the engine start only some minor problem not sure you guys had face it before or not. the air con tend to turn on by itself even the knob already in the off position, then it off by itself after 2-3sec or sometimes on off on off in within 2-3 sec, anyone face this problem before? weird indeed if u ask me... only happened once in awhile like once a month, hmm....
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Ur horse needs to breath once in a mth.. XD

Persona body with Ferrari DNA?? I love that..
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post Jan 4 2011, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(NSX_MY @ Jan 4 2011, 02:00 PM)
lol, perhaps i should rename it as fierce tiger (according to the proton symbol), well my wife drove my car when i got it during the first day, she said my horse is very fierce at that time (she's driving myvi), now she said my car become so tame like a little pony to her  brows.gif
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LOL.. Ur car changed from Persona to Saga BLM ady.. haha.. I wonder if she complaint about the steering being too heavy..
My friend who has been driving a Myvi for 2.5years drove my car yest.. And she complaint my steering is so damn heavy compared to Myvi.. And yeah i concurred too.. Myvi and Vios steering are so damn light..

QUOTE(cyew86 @ Jan 4 2011, 02:06 PM)
i did the same, but still faced ignition problem, only once though *touch wood*
the technician in Serdang SC told me to change the gear to "N" first, then only start the engine if such case happens again, not sure workable or not laugh.gif
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I always start my car in P. The only 1 time i had problem was when my car is in N though.. Thats y i always start my car b4 getting into it.
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QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Jan 4 2011, 02:36 PM)
if that's the case then really in dillema want to DIY or send to car wash shop
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DIY loh.. Do u have the waxing machine? If u want to do it by hand its going be be tedious.. Then i suggest u go to professionals to do it.. Its only going to cost RM188.. For polish and wax..
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QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Jan 4 2011, 02:56 PM)
just spend rm180 to re-spray front skirt. aih need to fork out another 200, wish to save the 200 to get VS+GC from eric haha. how's ur testing so far ?

positive or negative ?
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Total i spend was RM240 for VS+GC.. He charged me for GC installation.. sweat.gif

In my opinion for something that cost RM240, its not worth it.

1) Slightly smoother shifting.. Not noticeably faster at all.. But high rev (5.5k-6.5k) gear change is faster.
2) Air-con colder? Nah.. During really hot hot afternoon sun i dont feel it cools down my car any faster.. Still feels the same. In the morning though even the standard without VS aircon is more than cold enough for me.
3) Improved FC? Nope.. Its still the same.. In fact it looks like it has increased but thats cause i got stuck in more terrible, non-moving jam lah.. So cant totally blame the VS.
4) Improved low end torque? No, no noticeable difference even if there is. My IronHide feels exactly the same with and without it.
5) Idling, there is an improvement. Slightly lesser vibration from the compressor kicking in.. U still can feel the vibration. Only lesser.. But due to that u can hear the compressor more clearly as it kicks in.. Sensory deprivation i guess.. So u get lesser vibration, but u feel like the compressor is louder..
6) The headlights and meter panels STILL DIMS AS PER NORMAL when the compressor kicks in. Not even noticeable difference. But due to the louder compressor, when it kicks in u hear it, and u will more oftenly glance at the meter panel to check idling speed and u can see the dimming effects..

So for RM240 worth of dough to increase ur performance.. Nah.. I dont really see the difference.. I wouldnt recommend it to you.. I guess for the same amount of money to increase performance, u can change extractor to 4-2-1 which would definitely give better low end torque. Or drop-in + iridium spark plugs for more performance or save up somemore for a lightened crank pulley.. This would at least be guaranteed of a few extra horses from ur engine..
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QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Jan 4 2011, 03:21 PM)
ooh thanks for your advise. this friday afternoon might hang around USJ area haha. if you free can meet up then let you try rev my car see whether still is pesona or already transform to BLM liao. always stuck in jam sees like the performance drop already since last ECU re-flash
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Friday afternoon? Awesome.. I am already there..

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