I have used bhp for my first tank, shell for 2nd, esso for 3rd and 4th tank.. Then partially will rm20 with shell when my tank ran almost dry and the car was choking a bit..

So far what i can deduce is, bhp gives good power, best mileage among all 3 tanks. Esso gives best amount of pick up. Im staying in subang and every morning i go to college i can feel the difference.. Shell so far i dont feel good.. Engine feels heavy, even on the 2nd partial fill.. The revs like dont want to climb.. And mileage was poor. On my full tank of Shell i was travelling on highway 85% of the time.. Nvr speed more than 130/140 max.. Went to KLIA, then went to seremban and back from subang. Got poorer mileage compared to town driving.. I will be giving Caltex a try for my next tank..

I used to work part time data entry in NanoTag Malaysia. The one that they put nanotag into diesel. I was in charge of entering all those test data and results that were in printed form cos the softcopy was destroyed. There were at least 20binders of test and results from different fuel companies about their additives and emission standards and nanotags specification. I had to manually type into Word and save it as a softcopy. SO i got to read the reports too.. Man.. They were super detailed..

That time there was only Ron92 and Ron97. They did test so analyze emission standards from different fuel using 5 different types of cars (different CC and compression ratio). Thats how i picked up this knowledge lah..

If basic physics, burning hotter and longer means more energy release. But in a combustion engine, the mixture is aneamic (lesser oxygen so that the engine doesnt burn lean and overheat). Engine needs maximum energy to be transferred from fuel form to gas form. Thats why we need the mixture to combust, prevent excessive loss of energy in light form or sound form. As compression goes higher + cylinder head heat, petrol will combust spontaneously at a certain point. Ron97 is able to resist early combustion due to its more stable and slow burn nature, allowing the cylinder head to compress the mixture a bit more b4 it detonates itself too.

Friction modification tech went wrong i suppose.. Adding extra friction..

LOL No worries.. Well the main reason for all the test done by NanoTag was to determine whether their nanotag additives in different petrol with additives with different car compression would create any adverse effect on power and fuel consumption. They tested cars with 9:1, 9.5:1, 10:1, 10.5:1 and 11.3:1 compression.. So there was a bunch of dyno results and analysis and explanation by some German company as well as Petronas on the changes of data..
It was found out that with lower compression NA engines, the fuel needed to be lower octane and with as less additives as possible to prevent the fuel from stabilizing. So that when its combusted it reacts more violently and burns even faster. Thats why people do complaint that when they pump Ron92 into their cars, the engine sounds a bit harsher. Because almost everyone was using Ron97 at that time and fuel companies like Esso do not add any additives into their Ron92 petrol to cut cost.

The highest operating compression without knocking at standard temp (87.5celcius) for Ron92 is 10.5:1(benchtest), but in real world it definitely will be much lesser as engine load, environment condition and intake air temp plays a very huge part too. So from there i infer that for 10:1 compression, it would be better to use some fuel that combust faster instead to gain maximum torque as ron95 fuel will have a much higher compression tolerance than 10.5:1 even under engine load.

A lot of tiger points collecter here.. hahaha...

Anyone have used Caltex before with good feedback??


Good for you.. Peace of mind now. The wiper noise is it from the arm there? Cos when i went for my first service a guy driving PE also claimed for wiper arm replacement. He said the wiper was not smooth and when the wiper was turn on it moved like the screw was loose like that.

Can lah.. Just give him a call.. Ask him if u can follow him on his next detailing job. Im sure he would be glad to invite you.. I will be joining him for his detailing work in the end of dec to learn some skills from him.. So when i get my Lambo that time i can wax it myself.


This post has been edited by ZenGTMM: Nov 26 2010, 10:22 AM

Dont

Ouch.. Sakit lah... Nvm lah at least no body damage.. No need to ketuk ketuk.. And the fella willing to pay to repair it.. Btw bro.. Pls take back your broken rear lamp. I want to see what kind of LED they use in it so can DIY some projects in the future..

Tank will rosak meh? All the companies claim to provide better cleaning of engine.. Smoother running.. So which company is left to dirty the tank?

I know in the US u can purchase either branded fuel (Shell,BP, EXXON etc), but there are also supermarket fuel sold by Tesco etc.. Supermarket fuel is pure fuel, no additives, branded one have their secret potion mixed in as well.

Bro try using Esso for one time.. Shell i have felt the same thing too.. See whether there is an improvement.
I second dattebayo. My AT also runs below 10sec. More like 8sec. Tarik engine until 5000rpm then only change gear..

Ya u can.. U just have to go to a dealer with a PDT handheld tuner.. They can change settings for you on the fly. .

Not tunable to an extreme level.. But i have seen some shops with the PDT (Proton Diagnostic Tools) doing minor tuning for it.. Like adjust engine speed and fuel consumption.

U have to change the power steering assembly. Its covered under the warranty. Just go to Proton SC to complaint and they replace it for you.

Just say when u are cornering u hear knocking noise on the right hand side.. Say the noise coming from the engine part there.. They will change the whole steering assembly for you..

RM77=35.81L of Ron97.. Thats very good.. Normally for around 36L i get 330km++ only..

Just came back from ipoh yesterday.. Poured Esso Ron97, initially engine felt really sluggish cause i was using ron95 all the way. After like 40km the engine felt much more powerful compared with ron95 at 3.4k revs and above. Engine felt much smoother too compared to ron95 when i was on my way up from KL - Ipoh.
At 5k rpm i was able to touch 195kmh (Ron95 max 190 only) and i manage to reach a top speed of ~202kmh. The car felt a bit floaty at that speed Then it started raining so had to slow down..

Anybody still using the Silverstone Kruizer here? Beware as under heavy rain, u will have possibility of aquaplanning at speed @70kmh and above.
The car was like on going on wet mud like that, can feel the tires are not gripping well and the back tires feel twitchy..

CoSE. They said they will replace the whole assembly for me and it will include the power steering fluid too. I think they will use back the Proton OEM one lah.. Surely they wouldnt use other brands when there is Proton OEM available..

This post has been edited by ZenGTMM: Nov 29 2010, 10:28 AM

LOL Paiseh.. Ya its CoSE, beside the Kesas highway one. They are using Petronas Semi (RM97) and Shell helix HX7 (RM99). Please do appointment with them earlier on if not it will take a long time to service ur car..

(my computer always keep on auto correct )

This post has been edited by ZenGTMM: Nov 29 2010, 10:48 AM

Monday blues lah..

Welcome to the club.. Whats ur car color and transmission?

Im a b line (A) as well.
1) Steering wheel ok lah.. Lighter than Saga BLM IMO.. Definitely not as light as Vios..

2) Definitely not normal.. Nothing should be broken on the first day of getting the car, except for ur wallet. XD But since its getting replaced FOC then its ok lah..

3) No boot release also.. Have to retrofit it if u want..

4) 1st service RM114 for me. (Shell Helix HX7, drain plug and oil filter).

Roger that.. Been a bit busy with classes for these few days.. Will update the list on 1st dec.

yeah i understand ur situation.. I also opted for H-Line in the start, but due to the bank not approving 100% loan for me, so i had to downgrade it to B Line as im still studying now and i dont have the money to pay that much of downpayment.

There is around 6k difference in price.. 10k for BL to HL.. Not much if average it out on the monthly payment, but quite significant if have to pay the downpayment outright.

Yes compared to Saga, PE offers better NVH and driving dynamics. Huge car also, go club one time can tapau a lot of chicks back, can also 3p in the rear seat. I also have surveyed new and 2nd hand cars in the 50k range b4.. Criterias are it must not be too old. Reasonable comfort. Cheap spare parts and maintenance. Low FC (proton phail), good resale value, reasonable overall cost of ownership (car price, interest, FC, service cost, modding cost, design and size)
1) 2nd hand sentra N16 - nah, i ady have one sentra at home and sentra's interior looks dated.
2) 1st gen vios. Slightly more than 50k due to higher demand. My cousin bro have one and it has been giving lots of trouble 3yrs into his ownership and the car quality deteriorates too fast.
3) E36 BMW - Spare parts can kill you.
4) Myvi - There are more Myvi than rubbish on Msian roads and Myvi is due for a facelift next year. No boot, not really low FC, way to overpriced for its quality.
5) Wira 2nd hand - Looks nice but its too old lah...
6) Persona 1st gen - PE looks way better.

Thats all i can think about for now lah.. Still PE FTW,

Me me me!!! Im going on friday morning.. As early as possible to avoid the weekend crowd also also to get a better look at the chicks before they get tired of standing all the time there.. XDD.. And they will be more willing to take pic with u..
Make sure u go to gym on weds night.. Pump weights till u almost die then for thurs and fri cardio like there is no tmr and eat lots and lots of protein stuffs with low fat.. Sure by friday will get the buff look ady.. haha..

Ya wei 202 really dangerous.. But i wanted to test the limits..
WOw 38L u can clock 415KM.. Any mods in ur car?? Do u get stuck in traffic jams most of the time?? Cos i only get max 340km for 36L, but i stay in subang lah.. every morning come out to go college sure jam gila.. Will be stuck in a jam for at least 20mins..

LOL.. Yeah I agree with you.. 25years down the road.. No matter how much we discuss here, we wont be able to make much of a difference.. The real difference is if we are able to turn our voice into action.. Change the government. I nvr say BN is bad, neither do i say PKR is good. We must let our voice and power be heard. Let them know that they wont have a nice A/C room to sit in if they ignore our voice. Everybody u see around complaints bout this and that.. But ask them to go vote, they say its a waste of time lah.. Same results every year lah.. Corruption lah... They will change the vote later lah... Blah blah blah... Its not about the car price whether its cheap or not cheap.. Its the regulation and the way they tax our car.. If we were to enforce stricter regulation on emission standards like Europe, our cars wont just be cheaper, but much more efficient and environmental friendly too.. Any car maker can bring in a cheap car, but u must know our country is here to survive beyond 2020, more like till the end of time (2012 ) We must look at everything as a whole.. How our future generation are going to survive.. how clean and fresh the air is.. Just look at singapore.. They are able to create a clean environment with good quality air and a lot of trees.. Look at Putrajaya, we have more land than Singapork but we have recorded a higher avg temp over there due to poor landscaping and the lack of trees. Thus causing more electric to be used for A/C blah blah blah..

Do we really want a 100storey tower? Do we need one?? Yeah we MAY need it.. Its good for country long term development, but the real important issues to be settled are the problems we are having now, not the problems we are going to have in the future. Traffic jams in KL, low grade petrol and diesel quality, no minimum standards for cars (airbag etc).. They think every ppl are born to drive isit?? See how many ppl in msia sucks at driving, inconsiderate bastards that dont even bother signalling and hogging fast lane.. Gomen always try to reduce our speed limit, saying speed kills etc etc.. But what really kills ppl is the lack of skills in driving.. If speed kills, why a F1 or rally driver doesnt die? Its the skills they have that allows them to remain in control. The unskilled drivers on the road are what causes MOST of the accidents. Other people have to be aware of these people on the roads. And those ah bengs on the road.. Want to potong here and there but causing unnecessary braking and avoidance to other drivers. I dont mind if u speed and swish around the whole highway, as long as u dont interrupt other ppls driving pace and dont create unnecessary trouble for other people.. Then go ahead. I support u.

While driving engine mati suddenly.. When ON (not start) the car time RPM needle is at 8k..

Exactly. Malaysia is the biggest producer of orchids. But guess who is reknown as the Worlds top exporter for orchids? Singapork! Korea did not have much international exposure b4. But look at them now.. Hyundai, Kia are one of the top manufacturers ady.. Quality has gone to international standards.. We have P1 and P2 and some even say P3 (naza). But look at our international dominance, nowhere near world standards even if our national car existed way earlier than Korea. They have LG and Samsung, Samsung which has super good dominance in the Electronics world that even old timer Sony, Panasonic, Toshiba are threatened. Their internet speed are even faster than Japan, and they have a building up K-pop culture which also helps to brand LG or other local brands towards the international world. Its one of the most perfect eco-culture existing now. This is an example of resources put to good use.

---

Added on November 30, 2010, 10:59 amOops Paiseh.. hehe.. OKK back to topic.. Got a bit carried away..
Lots of pent up frustration and no intervention causing the damnation of our beloved nation..

This post has been edited by ZenGTMM: Nov 30 2010, 10:59 AM

Tinting is a bit difficult for the front and back windscreen. That will take longer time a bit lah. The side 4 windows are very much easier.. It took around 1hour to tint my whole car.. Not including waiting time lah.. Mine was done so fast as there was 3 workers tinting my car and the car was barely 1 week old. So the windows didnt need much cleaning..

LOL thanks..Np.. When i decide to run for one i will inform you.

This post has been edited by ZenGTMM: Nov 30 2010, 11:23 AM