Look for 3rd party desk mount such as Cento DMP LCD502. Forumer rsangel did sell it. The only drawback is you can't pivot, perhaps need few modifications.

Yes, DVI-Integrated can transfer digital and analogue signals.
Yes, acer 221hql using DVI-D
and
Yes, you can connect you monitor using HDMI to DVI cable from console. Only lack of audio to be transferred at the same time.


What I usually found is Dell Ultrasharp U2211H, 2207WFP and 2209WFP.

Better go for Dell U2311H

A little blurriness will occur on face paced games (if you game and really study the lag). U2311H also great for gaming since it has DisplayPort and easily you can. Because of it's good contrast ratio, Dell U2311H looks nicer in the dark scenes than Samsung.

Color is true on Dell while on Samsung looks brilliant but fake. I 've compared Dell U2311H side by side to Samsung B2430H and I confirm that Samsung TN monitor is not suitable for serious image editing. Simple gradient test showed serious color banding on TN monitor.

Almost can get 2 x U2311H? I think add RM100++ can get three U2311H with one 24inch IPS price .



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This post has been edited by jeopardise: Feb 10 2011, 09:42 PM

The image won't be sharp and often color distortion and flickering can be observed.

Blu-ray movies and HDCP content won't be able to be shown using VGA.


I've tried to find them in Lowyat and I can't find it. I hope you are luckier than me.

However I've bought one U2311H from other place and absolutely satisfied with my purchase.

No problem since I bought and install it. Backlight has good uniformity and no pixel defect.

Just a tiny scratch in the monitor surface, I think it is Dell's fault during preparing the monitor before distributing it. So because it's there I m only 90% satisfied or else I'll proudly say 100%.

I am very surprised that I immediately find out the difference between TN monitor quality with this monitor is very obvious. The color is superb and I should have bought this monitor than buying brand 'S' at RM715

No need to go for the 24 inch because an adding inch cost almost RM1K. Thinking to buy another one for my command center. Photo editing, linear video editing and realtime previewing will be awesome.

I think Samsung P2770H is the cheapest in retail. There is also Viewsonic with 1ms with a little price topup.

or cheapest always come in the form of used monitor

thanks for the info.

I found out the color/backlight uniformity and color is quite even so I swallow the tiny scratch problem as for now because it is hardly noticeable and doesn't affect the pixel quality. I am afraid if I change it, I'll get a bad one if i m unlucky.

I expect to buy another one and hopefully it will perform similarly like the current.

2 inch increase will be like enormous change to me.

I've used B2430H. My experience is quite bad.

1. I got a terrible pain for the first 3 days and I got 2 times 1-1 replacement because of dead pixel (1st replacement) and subpixel problem (2nd replacement). Its like nightmare going up and down Lowyat Plaza and a bit with All IT staffs to get replacement. In the warranty got "Zero Bright Defect (ZBD) only applies when it occurs within 7 working days from purchased date, regardless of dot quantity, the defective LCD panel/module shall be replace by SAMSUNG.". Info
2. Color is not accurate, Grey is a bit yellowish. Not for serious graphic works
3. Poor grads/banding. My office's cheap Philips 201E can produce images with amazing smooth gradient without much distortion and banding.
4. Text too sharp/antialias problem? Only with Full/Intelligent Image mode will fix it.
5. No DPMS. The computer already shutdown or sleep, the monitor still wake up with No Signal screen. Irritating in the night mode.
6. Goose neck stand, unstable on my desk. Fixed it with my L-2000 VESA mount.

Hmmmm ... that's what I think of this model.

The rest quite ok with me. BTW already replaced it with Dell IPS with 5 years warranty. Dell have amazing dead pixel warranty without much hassle.

I hope you are lucky buying one, or try LED lit models with cheaper price.

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Added on February 17, 2011, 3:00 pmI agree there's a dependency according to the quality of the cable, the length and the termination.

However VGA signal often described as RGB means 3 colors in analogue signal (prone to analog distortion) while DVI (digital signal) will correctly tell any pixel to show the desired color.



Should u use 1080p resolution with analogue VGA, you can apply >60Hz with it. DVI single link can only show 60Hz.

This post has been edited by jeopardise: Feb 17 2011, 03:00 PM

Forget the HDMI, or u'll be ended just like me before; purchased a TN monitor with a higher price with HDMI but regretted to find out the color quality s**k.

I bought U2311H and using it with DVI with HDMI-DVI convertor without any problem.

RM609 is a good buy. 3 years warranty

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Added on February 19, 2011, 11:40 amFor color critical works like photoshop and design = Go for U2311H IPS.

Simple test

With TN, usually encounter the below problem..


IPS have better performance than this. Best for editing with gamut, transparency, shadow filter etc.



More info: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gradient.php

This post has been edited by jeopardise: Feb 19 2011, 11:43 AM

It would work but spanning would make spanning distorted because of different monitor size. As long at you don't care about it, then it would be ok.

+1

If you think LED backlight saved power, latest CCFL backlight also become more power saving nowadays. Also one advantage of using LCD backlight is thin monitor and ligth weight. Because of manufacturer race for making the thinnest possible, sometimes they sacrifice VESA mounting capability.

U3211H is far better than ST2320L in term of image quality, viewing angle because it is using eIPS panel.

The price is a bit expensive because of premium quality.

U2311H is also full HD. Best companion for graphic designer, movies (wide viewing) and also acceptable for gaming.

2 usb ports via 1 uplink port from your motherboard. easy access for you flash/usb acrds.

No HDMI but have displayport. you can use DVI->HDMI convertor to connect from your graphic card HDMI output.

IPS stands for In Plane Switching so e-IPS means enhanced IPS in term of color transmission, lower power, faster response time and better backlights. IPS panel has wide viewing angle and accurate color reproduction because of crystal molecules move parallel to the panel plane instead of perpendicular to it. It is much better than cheap TN (twisted nematic) panels.

LCD monitors means monitors that uses liquid crystal display; A liquid crystal display (LCD) is a thin, flat electronic visual display that uses the light modulating properties of liquid crystals (LCs). LCs do not emit light directly. so it will use lights to show color such as CCFL or LED.

LED monitors means the monitor uses LED as backlight. It is more power saving, better contrast.

better have 3 x 2311H than 1 u 3011H. well, that's just me

I think to identify on the spot is really difficult. VA models are offered by very few manufacturer such as NEC, Dell and HP and only a very few models too. Mostly they are made from TN panel.

For TN panel they can be identified by fast response times usually 5ms (despite some earlier models comes with 16ms) AND narrow viewing angles especially from below (read 160 degree to 170 degree). VA models usually slow in response time such as 8ms GtG or 16ms or sometimes 25ms. VA viewing angle also a bit narrower than TN (e.g 89 degree or such).

what model is it?

In my office I am using Philips 201E wide monitor. Its cheap but the color is very acceptable for image editing. Impressive tone and almost no banding problem for a TN monitor. Samsung and LG badly outperformed at the same price level

Very satisfied with it

Dear phyzoul, using DVI is sufficient for Full HD movies.

You can use a HDMI -> DVI convertor. It'll work